Re: [MBZ] 123 weirdness

I forgot the year model for this car, but I always found the w123 Electrical Troubleshooting Manuals (ETM) to be excellent. Try here: https://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/outside/12265/disc_2/program/ETM/80_240. pdf Or here:

Re: [MBZ] Interesting thread on possible replacement for group 49 battery

If they are not hot, the ether will not be ignited by them. If tbey are hot, ether should not be needed. I only really used it in the 1963 190d when less than 10deg and nonsynthetic oil. The 85 has always fired off no matter the weather with a couple of glow cycles, but it always runs synthetic.

Re: [MBZ] Kyle's Next Wagon

Nah. By then the om648 will be the ticket. On Mar 5, 2017 9:23 AM, "Kyle Arola via Mercedes" wrote: > That sounds like a super nice swap! Something to consider in another 100k > miles or so... > > Kyle > > On Mar 5, 2017 8:40 AM, "Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes" < >

[MBZ] March car upgrades

Next weekend we switch to summer time at the PnP. Spring rains will require the SD wiper blades to get sharpened. Might as well get fresh blinker fluid in all my cars. http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main_page=product_info=13_id=54=pQU4c8cvGaTZyGhERBOhv2

Re: [MBZ] 72 Mercedes 280 SE 4.5 V8 $1500

The 4 speed 1971 W109 had a much nicer transmission and better mpg. On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 5:45 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I had one of those - 14-15 mpg when tuned to within an inch of its life. > ;-) > > But so much fun to drive I can still remember it

Re: [MBZ] Car for Rick

Yes, but it might still drive, albeit slowly. On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 5:40 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > But only if you want to part it out? > Did you read the bit about the other side of the car being wrecked? > > RB > > On 06/03/2017 9:10 AM, Andrew

Re: [MBZ] 123 weirdness

Ground seems to be the only commonality for windows, gauges but not turn signals, as those are grounded at the 4 corners I think On the 124, the windows are grounded under the tunnel, near the gearshift. I don't know where the ground for 123 windows may be. I've never scrapped a 123, so I

Re: [MBZ] Next car for Poos

Must be the preacher from the church billy bob and the pillory witch went to in the 1980s. Max Dillon via Mercedes March 6, 2017 at 8:12 PM Owned by a minister! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Next car for Poos

Oh! V12! Way better than the jag U wire inhabited by the prince of darkness. I think it is Kaleb's next car! Not for me! Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes March 6, 2017 at 7:54 PM http://littlerock.craigslist.org/cto/6023498468.html

Re: [MBZ] Next car for Poos

Owned by a minister! -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On March 6, 2017 8:54:18 PM EST, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" wrote: > >http://littlerock.craigslist.org/cto/6023498468.html > >via cPro for Craigslist >iOS: http://tinyurl.com/cPro-iDevice >Android:

[MBZ] Next car for Poos

http://littlerock.craigslist.org/cto/6023498468.html via cPro for Craigslist iOS: http://tinyurl.com/cPro-iDevice Android: http://tinyurl.com/CL-Android Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] OT Metal detectors

My dad has been telling me for the last coupla years to go buy one for birthday/Christmas/whatever and he will cover it, I saw him over the weekend and he mentioned it again, and my cousin's husband said he had one and found various War of Northern Aggression artifacts he had found doing what

Re: [MBZ] 123 weirdness

Could be the ground, or the flasher relay. Not sure if it lives behind the cluster or if the W123 had it built into the 4 way flasher. Removing the switches and some contact cleaner helps at times. clay > On Mar 6, 2017, at 4:19 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes >

Re: [MBZ] Curt's Next Snowmobile Adventure, Eh?

He showed up on Facebook today... Not my style, I should do something with the video I shot from the groomer last month where the snow comes up over the plow and hits the top of the windshield... -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes To: Mercedes List

Re: [MBZ] Club outing to the car wash

Griots is the consumer level product for the home detailer. It is by no means harsh enough to allow the user to screw up. Nice and safe, so the user feels competent to keep his car clean. Lots of goo that does all manner of clean enough. I do not think the stuff is at all professional

Re: [MBZ] 123 weirdness

Ground? I had the fuel and temp gauges quit because of a cluster ground. They'd bounce forlornly when the blinkers were on leading me to believe theres some grounding commonality there... -Curt From: Curley McLain via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List

Re: [MBZ] OT: New toy update

Thanks Scott, I knew about surplus center but hadn't seen the other before. -Curt From: Scott Ritchey To: 'Curt Raymond' ; 'Mercedes Discussion List' Sent: Monday, March 6, 2017 5:01 PM Subject: RE: [MBZ] OT: New toy

[MBZ] Curt's Next Snowmobile Adventure, Eh?

http://jalopnik.com/this-denim-clad-snowmobile-hoon-is-the-one-true-king-of-1793010673 -D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Delivery valves

not the DV number, but what is impt. is to follow the torque instructions, it is basically, barely snug, loosen, light snug, loosen, light snug. It is very important not to overtorque any of the DV holders. It was in the writeup I sent you. (John Reames) Larry Turner via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] 123 weirdness

Well, if it was a fuse problem, that would work. However the mentioned systems are on more than one circuit, and some things on the mentioned circuits DO work. I did, however check the fuses and alles gut. So, I am still looking for a common B+ feed. Cluster lights work. 4 way flashers

Re: [MBZ] OT: New toy update

+1 for Surplus Center. When I was building hydraulic power packs, I bought the pumps and controls from them. It used to be called Burden's back in the day. At one time they had bungler alarm stuff too. It seems they have dropped that line. IN later years, to replace the 2 stage hyd.

Re: [MBZ] Delivery valves

Improperly torqued delivery valve seals result in the actual injection timing and fuel burn timing varying between the cylinders. The bigger the leak, the later the actual burn, and hence less efficiency. Rough idle, lumpy running, but less power AND fuel economy. BTDT, and need to do the

Re: [MBZ] Delivery valves

The individual valves themselves Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 6, 2017, at 4:54 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes > wrote: > > Thanks Kaleb - > Do you mean the order of the DVs is critical, i.e., #3 1st, then #5, etc or > the torquing of the individual DVs as is torque to

Re: [MBZ] beautiful 1977 Jaguar coupe in BRG

you can often find those sedans with the V12 that people are trying to unload. I was offered one for $1500 back in 2000. Mechanicals were questionable and having owned a Jag sedan in the past I ran away as fast as I could. Jags are like MBs except MB's don't rust nearly as badly as Jags

Re: [MBZ] OT Metal detectors

I had one once but it was fairly low powered. Beaches were (are?) the most popular search areas here in Florida. If the island where you live was once a beach (many of them were) there could be something there. If you dig down two or 3 feet or more and find nothing but sandy soil, it possibly

Re: [MBZ] Delivery valves

one reason I asked this question is because in my research, I never saw anything to indicate any more that what everyone was so helpful in sending me and the Jobs in the WSM failed to mention anything more. I wonder if there's anything in the Tech Book? I'll check Larry On 03/06/2017

Re: [MBZ] Delivery valves

Thanks Kaleb - Do you mean the order of the DVs is critical, i.e., #3 1st, then #5, etc or the torquing of the individual DVs as is torque to 5nM, them 9nM then another 1/4 turn? I did not look up the actual torque needed - the numbers are just for example. Thanks, LarryT On 03/06/2017

Re: [MBZ] Delivery valves

That's the only thing they were authorized to work on. I like this place a lot and used to buy parts from them when we lived here in the early 80s. Now they have 4 locations around Richmond. I spoke to the representative and he said they had 2 techs who were _very _familiar with the early

Re: [MBZ] 72 Mercedes 280 SE 4.5 V8 $1500

I had one of those - 14-15 mpg when tuned to within an inch of its life. ;-) But so much fun to drive I can still remember it chirping the tires as it shifted into 3rd! I have always been a fan of the W108 and the 4.5L made it even better!! What a car that was!! LarryT 91 300D On

Re: [MBZ] Car for Rick

But only if you want to part it out? Did you read the bit about the other side of the car being wrecked? RB On 06/03/2017 9:10 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: If it DRIVES then that is a SICK price. On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 11:26 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com>

Re: [MBZ] 72 Mercedes 280 SE 4.5 V8 $1500

and burns gas like it was 1972??? RB On 06/03/2017 8:53 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Well, for starters it has a $1500 custom paint job. Go upward from that base.. On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: There is no telling

Re: [MBZ] 123 weirdness

VOICE FROM BEYOND . . . "REPLACE THE FUSES" On 06/03/2017 4:05 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: took the 81 240D (123.123.12) out of winter storage a few days ago. Fired as soon is one jug hit the compression stroke. Driving round today, I saw the fuel and temp gauges quit working. As

Re: [MBZ] OT Metal detectors

I would also suggest buying a good unit. I have a cheap Radio Shack unit picked up at a garage sale that works but not well enough that one would enjoy looking for any sort of treasure. I just wanted to find the property corner stakes out at the lake and it was ok for that. RB On 06/03/2017

Re: [MBZ] OT Metal detectors

The guy that got me turned on to Benzes was a hard core metal detector practitioner and die hard 220D owner that kept Potomac German in business keeping his 220D on the road - it finally tacoed with nearly 700k on the clock. He lives in Baltimore, and goes searching on private properties

[MBZ] 123 weirdness

took the 81 240D (123.123.12) out of winter storage a few days ago. Fired as soon is one jug hit the compression stroke. Driving round today, I saw the fuel and temp gauges quit working. As I went about my errends, some 60 miles, I kept jiggling the key, but the gauges stayed dead. The

Re: [MBZ] OT: New toy update

A couple good online sources for hydraulic stuff are: http://www.discounthydraulichose.com/ http://www.surpluscenter.com/Hydraulics/ They also have good reference information on threads and connections. > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf

Re: [MBZ] 300SEL - Sunday Fun!

On 06/03/2017 2:59 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: On Sun, 5 Mar 2017 17:58:25 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Manfred, 50-1/2” across the ends of the bar measuring from the outside edge. I used this stripper. Powerful stuff, but does the job:

Re: [MBZ] 300SEL - Sunday Fun!

On Sun, 5 Mar 2017 17:58:25 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > Manfred, > > 50-1/2” across the ends of the bar measuring from the outside edge. > > I used this stripper. Powerful stuff, but does the job: > >

Re: [MBZ] OT Metal detectors

Are you going to be one of those geeky old guys who finds a fortune on the beach? On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 3:13 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Anyone have/use these things? I'm thinking to get one, what might you > recommend? > > I have an idea there might be a

Re: [MBZ] OT: New toy update

Nice! Curt Raymond via Mercedes March 6, 2017 at 8:24 AM Took a couple hours on the new tractor yesterday. As a reminder the PO suggested that the PTO clutch was blowing the fuse, he said he measured it at 0 ohms.The hood was adjusted too far forward anyway so

[MBZ] OT Metal detectors

Anyone have/use these things? I'm thinking to get one, what might you recommend? I have an idea there might be a lot of artifacts here on the vast estate -- --FT Winston Churchill: “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or petty, never give in except to

Re: [MBZ] Car for Kyle and SWMBO

No no. You don't keep insurance or tag on it when not needed. You switch them over from the other one when you need it. Takes two phone calls. Kyle Arola via Mercedes wrote: I have a spare truck if the MB breaks down so another car is not really what I need, or want to insure and take care

Re: [MBZ] Car for Kyle and SWMBO

That kind of makes me want to go and look at it. Too bad I don't have the time or money. OK I need a good excuse and can't think of one. I wonder if he kept the rear SLS shocks he took out and if the rest of the stuff is still on the car. Not too bad a price. Kyle Arola via Mercedes wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Club outing to the car wash

Yeah, that smile is so saccharine and he's a tad TOO enthusiastic... On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 1:19 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > That guy has/had some car show on cable. I always thought he was kinda > creepy in some way I couldn't quite pin down. > > --FT > >

Re: [MBZ] Club outing to the car wash

That guy has/had some car show on cable. I always thought he was kinda creepy in some way I couldn't quite pin down. --FT On 3/6/17 8:56 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: I've used Meguiars exclusively for 30 years. Good stuff. ‎They didn't market to the average Joe thirty years ago.

Re: [MBZ] Delivery valves

The torque sequence of the valve holders is very critical. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 6, 2017, at 10:49 AM, Larry Turner via Mercedes > wrote: > > Hi Gang - > >As you might recall, I took my MB to a local Import shop when I had > difficulty getting the DVs

Re: [MBZ] OT: New toy

Ok, I found the photos. Went to SPAM RB On 06/03/2017 8:07 AM, tyee165 via Mercedes wrote: We need photos! Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A Original message From: Curt Raymond via Mercedes Date: 2017-03-04 5:53 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes Discussion List

Re: [MBZ] Delivery valves

I think you're correct in that getting the delivery valves right is primarily going to result in (1) no external leaks and (2) a smooth idle. No tuning aspect to the job. There must be some other work (other than the glow plugs) that is responsible for the change in performance. -

Re: [MBZ] beautiful 1977 Jaguar coupe in BRG

I want it. mechabicals will still need work --FT On 3/6/17 10:15 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: On BAT. Kept in heated storage for 8 YEARS and not started (!!) during that period. Cosmetics are nearly flawless. Must be towed away. Interesting proposition - what's it worth?

[MBZ] Delivery valves

Hi Gang - As you might recall, I took my MB to a local Import shop when I had difficulty getting the DVs working properly and after driving the car I find it is much quieter and faster as well. I know how the DVs are set up but cannot imagine how they can be "tuned" so they will allow

Re: [MBZ] Car for Kyle and SWMBO

I have a spare truck if the MB breaks down so another car is not really what I need, or want to insure and take care of. If I did want another "real" car, I certainly would look at a nice older MB... Maybe a Coupe as I think those are pretty cool! Kyle On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 11:21 AM, Curley

Re: [MBZ] Car for Kyle and SWMBO

Naa, this one is for his n Hers. Or a backup car for when one of the others needs work. It is much cheaper to keep a spare MB Diesel than to be without wheels due to repairs or catastrophe. Kyle Arola via Mercedes March 6, 2017 at 10:18 AM I did look at that

Re: [MBZ] Car for Kyle and SWMBO

I did look at that wagon also. I just hesitated as getting it here without a blue interior seemed to be too much work. I will get the perfect spare car when the perfect spare comes along! Or maybe just skip the whole thing and wait until I need an engine/transmission/etc. Kyle On Mon, Mar 6,

Re: [MBZ] 1967 Mercedes 200D

Make an offer. On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 8:45 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I didn't see a price in the ad, wondered what he was asking. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Mar 6, 2017, at 1:36 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Club outing to the car wash

I still prefer 3M, but I like Meguires because it's available in smaller quantities and they have a much wider range of products. I'll stick with my Colinite 845 Insulator Wax, but for finish recovery and polishing I like Meguires. -D Sent from my iPad > On Mar 6, 2017, at 8:56 AM, Rick

Re: [MBZ] Kaleb's favorite

Well there are not any decent photos to tell but if it's in good shape it seems like a good deal. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 6, 2017, at 9:03 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > I wonder if the "many extra body parts" are packed in heavy plastic bags in >

[MBZ] beautiful 1977 Jaguar coupe in BRG

On BAT. Kept in heated storage for 8 YEARS and not started (!!) during that period. Cosmetics are nearly flawless. Must be towed away. Interesting proposition - what's it worth? http://bringatrailer.com/2017/03/05/looks-great-but-needs-work-1977-jaguar-xj6c/

Re: [MBZ] Car for Rick

If it DRIVES then that is a SICK price. On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 11:26 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > https://atlanta.craigslist.org/sat/cto/6031210132.html > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Car for Kyle and SWMBO

I like it - the seller seems to be a full discloser who realizes his car will take a lot of work to bring it up to snuff. A visit and some kind words and he'd probably let it go for $1300. Unfortunatey, the interior is the wrong color for Kyle et al. On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 11:11 PM, Curley

Re: [MBZ] Kaleb's favorite

I wonder if the "many extra body parts" are packed in heavy plastic bags in the trunk and on the back seats. On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 11:03 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > https://nashville.craigslist.org/cto/6005557626.html > > Only it is not baby poop green > > >

Re: [MBZ] Surely nobody is stupid enough to buy these

I love the warranty. Against what? Getting wet? On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 9:21 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-w115-Diesel-Fuel-Pre-Filter > -Set-of-2-HENGST-1-YEAR-WARRANTY-/302242748369?fits=Make% >

Re: [MBZ] Nother Dan Dream car.

Oh BTW, the s/r is stuck in the uptllt position. Probably just a fuse. On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 2:20 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Curley wrote: > > Looks pretty nice. Maybe better than the cheep heap he bought. > > Isn't that the one I drove to the City

Re: [MBZ] 72 Mercedes 280 SE 4.5 V8 $1500

Well, for starters it has a $1500 custom paint job. Go upward from that base.. On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > There is no telling what kind of shape this is in. > > 72 Mercedes 280 SE 4.5 V8 >

Re: [MBZ] Car For Mitch

It needs a GOOD tune-up. On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Max wrote: > > Drop in a chebby engine, bag it, double donks, and show up at your next > > local club event... > > In Detroit is a guy named Satish Tummala - anaesthesiologist

[MBZ] OT: New toy update

Took a couple hours on the new tractor yesterday. As a reminder the PO suggested that the PTO clutch was blowing the fuse, he said he measured it at 0 ohms.The hood was adjusted too far forward anyway so I pulled it off finding only 2 of the 4 bolts that should be there. The PTO clutch showed

Re: [MBZ] OT: New toy

We need photos! Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A Original message From: Curt Raymond via Mercedes Date: 2017-03-04 5:53 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Curt Raymond Subject: [MBZ] OT: New toy

Re: [MBZ] Hallucination Express

Yes. I said earlier that I did not know about US as I had not tried it but I now recall that my sister said it worked great in Hawaii. They flew island to island twice and did not wait more than a few  Iminutes  in lines Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A Original message From: Curt

Re: [MBZ] Hallucination Express

Not sure about US but works in Canada.We visit our son in Ottawa flying out of Winnipeg. Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A Original message From: OK Don via Mercedes Date: 2017-03-03 7:45 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes Discussion List

Re: [MBZ] Club outing to the car wash

I've used Meguiars exclusively for 30 years. Good stuff. ‎They didn't market to the average Joe thirty years ago. Glad you finally saw the light. :) ‎https://youtu.be/7ATBbrfmzc0 Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] 1967 Mercedes 200D

I didn't see a price in the ad, wondered what he was asking. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 6, 2017, at 1:36 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes > wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 5:56 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> Or this >>

Re: [MBZ] Club outing to the car wash

Amazon. -D Sent from my iPad > On Mar 6, 2017, at 8:29 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > Where do you get professional grade Meguires at decent prices? > > - > Max > Charleston SC > > On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 8:13 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] Club outing to the car wash

Where do you get professional grade Meguires at decent prices? - Max Charleston SC On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 8:13 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: > I never understood the allure of Griots stuff. Granted, some of it is nice > and it's well marketed and packaged,

Re: [MBZ] Club outing to the car wash

I never understood the allure of Griots stuff. Granted, some of it is nice and it's well marketed and packaged, but the cost is stupid compared to other products of equal or better quality. I see it at Advance Auto on the close out table with some frequency. Don't think their demographic is