Re: [MBZ] OT:Covid 19 Podcast

2020-03-18 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Those were merely construction debris fires --FT Sent from iPhone > On Mar 18, 2020, at 9:51 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > IN LATE DEC, EARLY JAN, there were reports that smoke from wuhan could be > seen from satellites. it was postulated that this was from incinerating >

Re: [MBZ] Case in point: How to lie with statistics

2020-03-18 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Well, if we had used the WHO test for the novel coronavirus (Like South Korea did) when it was offered to us in late January we likely could have prevented the vast majority of the cases we have now because we could have actually tracked exposure. WHO is far from perfect, but so is the Senate.

[MBZ] Virtual car show

2020-03-18 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
MB Spares of NSW (Australia) is sponsoring a virtual car show on Sunday.  Take a picture of your car and send it in.    Former lister, John Green runs MB Spares of NSW. https://www.facebook.com/events/231574101362085/?active_tab=about ___

Re: [MBZ] Case in point: How to lie with statistics

2020-03-18 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
right.   and the theory is that by having people try to be hermits, we can lower the peak numbers and spread the hopital load out over a longer time.   Sounds good on paper.   We are old enough to remember when we DID have a lot more hospital beds.   Hospitals were closed and torn down or

Re: [MBZ] Case in point: How to lie with statistics

2020-03-18 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
More to the point, how many people will need hospitalization to survive, and for how long. Doctors in Italy are being forced to decide who gets life saving care already, and the case load is still climbing. At the current rate of increase in caseload in the US we will hit 1.5 million

Re: [MBZ] Case in point: How to lie with statistics

2020-03-18 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
The major point of difference is that millions have resistance through their flu shots, whereas zero are protected against COVID 19. If there were no flu vaccine how many deaths would there be? On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 10:35 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I

[MBZ] Case in point: How to lie with statistics

2020-03-18 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I am not discounting the potential severity of the wuhan flu.  At the same time there is considerable evidence that the media has over hyped the danger.   The article below is an illustration of how to lie with statistics.    You don't even need to buy Mr. Huff's little book.

Re: [MBZ] OT:Covid 19 Podcast

2020-03-18 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
IN LATE DEC, EARLY JAN, there were reports that smoke from wuhan could be seen from satellites. it was postulated that this was from incinerating bodies.   That would be more in line with the deaths from wuhan flu in other countries. Could well have been millions.    The whole thing is the

Re: [MBZ] Justice for Floyd/Rich

2020-03-18 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I love how you humanize these headline makers... On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 9:14 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I’m not sure I trust Queen Jean to do the right thing, although she has > surprised me in the past. She is also known as a hard drinker. > > --FT >

Re: [MBZ] OT:Covid 19 Podcast

2020-03-18 Thread Clay via Mercedes
https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/coronavirus-cnn-update-boris-johnson-lord-farquaad-speech-shrek-a9408036.html clay > On Mar 18, 2020, at 11:19 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > wrote: > > This is what will happen. There are 100k ICU beds in the US (and maybe some >

Re: [MBZ] OT:Covid 19 Podcast

2020-03-18 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Apparently they're trying to totally isolate the old folks at Angie's grandmother's place. They take them their meals and tell them not to leave their rooms ever. No guests are allowed in at all. I'm not sure if they're trying to save them or kill them faster... -Curt On Wednesday, March

Re: [MBZ] OT:Covid 19 Podcast

2020-03-18 Thread Clay via Mercedes
Old people home is probably a fairly good place to hang out in a situation like this. My mother (90) is self isolating. She has a dog to care for, but probably could use company other than a dog. Too afeared to wander the aisles of a grocery store. Not sure they have instituted seniors

Re: [MBZ] Justice for Floyd/Rich

2020-03-18 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
I’m not sure I trust Queen Jean to do the right thing, although she has surprised me in the past. She is also known as a hard drinker. --FT Sent from iPhone > On Mar 18, 2020, at 2:39 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > UTILITIES > Judge approves $520M settlement in Santee

Re: [MBZ] I'm a repo man!

2020-03-18 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
The regional VP called me, I missed the call, texted him, I need to call him back and see how we can get this sorted --FT Sent from iPhone > On Mar 18, 2020, at 7:51 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > So what became of all this sturm und drang listed below? > > > Craig > > >> On Mon, 9

Re: [MBZ] I'm a repo man!

2020-03-18 Thread Craig via Mercedes
So what became of all this sturm und drang listed below? Craig On Mon, 9 Mar 2020 21:35:13 -0400 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: > The TM regional VP is calling me tomorrow > > --FT > Sent from iPhone > > > On Mar 9, 2020, at 7:06 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > > wrote: > > > >

Re: [MBZ] some levity

2020-03-18 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 22:47:44 -0500 Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: > We need some: > > THe wuhan foo virus was exposed to Chuck Norris! > > The virus is now hospitalized for at least 14 days. Seen on a website: There was a bank break in and robbery over the weekend but all they took

Re: [MBZ] FW: 1960 Mercedes Benz 190D

2020-03-18 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Tempting, but my track record with project cars is poor. Hope someone gives it a good new home. Allan Bob Rentfro via Mercedes writes: > A project while being quarantined? > > Bob R > > > 1960 Mercedes Benz 190D > https://tucson.craigslist.org/cto/7093394304.html > > Please go to the

[MBZ] FW: 1960 Mercedes Benz 190D

2020-03-18 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
A project while being quarantined? Bob R 1960 Mercedes Benz 190D https://tucson.craigslist.org/cto/7093394304.html Please go to the preferences page if you don't want to receive email-a-friend messages in the future. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To

Re: [MBZ] OT: Computers

2020-03-18 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 18 Mar 2020 14:22:41 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > I bought a new enterprise grade HP Ethernet switch when I set up > networking in the new house. It’s a fan-less 24 port model that even > has a couple of ports for multimode fiber transceivers, which will > never be used, I

Re: [MBZ] OT:Covid 19 Podcast

2020-03-18 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
That number is based on confirmed cases presenting with symptoms so far, but I get your point --FT On 3/18/20 4:37 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: So, Italy has a population of 60 million. 6,000 deaths projected. 0.01%. How many deaths do they have from regular influenza? I mean,

Re: [MBZ] OT:Covid 19 Podcast

2020-03-18 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Italy: About 3000 dead already. 475 today according to the news. Many of the healthcare people are getting it and some of the doctors have died. RB On 18/03/2020 3:37 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: So, Italy has a population of 60 million. 6,000 deaths projected. 0.01%. How many

Re: [MBZ] OT:Covid 19 Podcast

2020-03-18 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
So, Italy has a population of 60 million. 6,000 deaths projected. 0.01%. How many deaths do they have from regular influenza? I mean, 6,000 deaths is never a good thing. Especially when it hits in a tsunami and overwhelms the system. But where is it in context of "normal" life and times? Allan

Re: [MBZ] OT:Covid 19 Podcast

2020-03-18 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Well a figure of millions of deaths is assuming that all 331 million people in the US will be infected. I don't think that is realistic. I still think that order of magnitude of deaths in the US will be around 5000. I'm basing this on the numbers coming from China and making adjustments /

Re: [MBZ] OT:Covid 19 Podcast

2020-03-18 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
I have no idea.  Some are just ignorant, some don't care, some don't believe it, some believe they are invincible, some playing the odds, most just being humans with whatever denial they have... In Italy it looks like the numbers of people recovered will be about 68,000, with total deaths

Re: [MBZ] OT:Covid 19 Podcast

2020-03-18 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I noticed this morning at WW as well as yesterday at Lowe’s that people were making an effort to maintain distance for the most part. -D > On Mar 18, 2020, at 3:29 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > > On 18/03/2020 2:19 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: >> This is what will

Re: [MBZ] OT:Covid 19 Podcast

2020-03-18 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 18/03/2020 2:19 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: This is what will happen.  There are 100k ICU beds in the US (and maybe some more ventilators that could be found in ORs and such). When those are in use, the medical facilities will have to start triage, and those more likely to survive

Re: [MBZ] OT:Covid 19 Podcast

2020-03-18 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
This is what will happen.  There are 100k ICU beds in the US (and maybe some more ventilators that could be found in ORs and such). When those are in use, the medical facilities will have to start triage, and those more likely to survive a severe infection will get the resources (HINT:  that

Re: [MBZ] Wally World AM Report

2020-03-18 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
I rode the bike to the beach this morning, still isolated and quarantined by proximity (although a mama and baby dolphin were feeding right in front of me, maybe 15-20ft away, ignoring the signs telling us to keep our distance), and rode by the grocery store down the road.  I did not go in but

Re: [MBZ] FW: Thank God They Put the Paper Floor Mat Down....

2020-03-18 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
That's to cover the hole in the floor pan. On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 1:55 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > That's to protect the shag carpet > > --FT > > On 3/18/20 1:49 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bob Rentfro > > Nuclear

Re: [MBZ] OT - Hanna-Barbera

2020-03-18 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Like the part with Race calling in from vacation? Wait until you watch Dabba Don. -D > On Mar 18, 2020, at 3:09 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > > Now that (custody battle) was funny. > > On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 12:39 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote: > For

Re: [MBZ] OT - Hanna-Barbera

2020-03-18 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Now that (custody battle) was funny. On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 12:39 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > For those who enjoyed their cartoons, try watching some of the “Harvey > Birdman, Attorney at Law” episodes. > > These are a parody done by some of the Williams Street

Re: [MBZ] Wally World AM Report

2020-03-18 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Yup. Otherwise, I wouldn’t have bothered going. Got some milk and kitty food. Meant to get a bag of sugar and some eggs if they had them, but was so engrossed in what was going on I forgot. That’s why I typically use a list. -D > On Mar 18, 2020, at 2:46 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > > Did

Re: [MBZ] Wally World AM Report

2020-03-18 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Did you actually purchase anything? On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 6:41 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Went to my local WW this morning at opening time. About 20 people in line, > all very orderly and pleasant. I will say that I’ve not seen anything that > indicated panic

Re: [MBZ] Travel

2020-03-18 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I would gladly travel back to Perth. Reminded me of SF when I was there in 1971. On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 6:26 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > There’s a reason for that - Perth. Not the most desirable place in > Australia, although I’ve been there and thought it to

Re: [MBZ] some levity

2020-03-18 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Crickets. On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 11:48 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > We need some: > > THe wuhan foo virus was exposed to Chuck Norris! > > The virus is now hospitalized for at least 14 days. > > > > ___ >

Re: [MBZ] Turd or treasure?

2020-03-18 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
They are litter mates and should not be separated. Out of curiosity I sent Michele the Seller a message asking for some basic info. On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 11:30 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/345702183028680/ > > >

[MBZ] USA's first Advanced small Nuke reactor

2020-03-18 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Looks pretty cool. Whether it will work and at what cost remains to be seen. NUCLEAR Nation's first advanced reactor proposal heads to NRC Wednesday, March 18, 2020 [image: Oklo nuclear powerhouse rendering. Photo credit: Gensler/Oklo Inc.] A rendering of Oklo Inc.'s Aurora powerhouse at

Re: [MBZ] OT:Covid 19 Podcast

2020-03-18 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
But are you reading anything about what is happening in Italy? I read an article this morning that was rather disturbing. They were calling it a humanitarian disaster. A state of the art hospital overrun, turning patients away. People over 65 being shunted aside in favour of younger folks.

[MBZ] Justice for Floyd/Rich

2020-03-18 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
UTILITIES Judge approves $520M settlement in Santee Cooper lawsuit Published: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 A South Carolina judge gave preliminary approval yesterday to a $520 million settlement that would provide refunds to Santee Cooper utility customers who were charged increased rates for a

Re: [MBZ] OT:Covid 19 Podcast

2020-03-18 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Here's yesterday's NIH news release on the stability of COV 19 on a variety of surfaces. https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/new-coronavirus-stable-hours-surfaces On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 2:27 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >but I am still convinced that

Re: [MBZ] OT:Covid 19 Podcast

2020-03-18 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
>but I am still convinced that shutting down the >whole country and bringing >about an economic >recession is an over-reaction. That's what the link I sent basically said. Here is today's link. https://youtu.be/i38-ysmXnm0 Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] OT:Covid 19 Podcast

2020-03-18 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Realistically, many old folks gradually lose their sense of taste, which makes them unhappy with meals. Also, meals (such as they are) become a huge event in the day of institutionalized folks. Everybody complains about hospital food but it is not unhealthy. I don't have a solution other

Re: [MBZ] OT: Computers

2020-03-18 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I have a Mac Mini 2009 (3,1) on a shelf in my rack in the utility room that runs my Plex media server. You wouldn’t know it was there unless you looked. The DVR for my camera system makes more noise. I bought a new enterprise grade HP Ethernet switch when I set up networking in the new house.

Re: [MBZ] OT: Computers

2020-03-18 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
I have two active cheese graters in my little work-from-home office, close enough to touch, and with the exception of the 'bad RAM' episode they never make any significant noise. (Some RAM went bad, causing the thermal management subsystem to decide to try to eject the RAM from the box via

Re: [MBZ] FW: Thank God They Put the Paper Floor Mat Down....

2020-03-18 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
That's to protect the shag carpet --FT On 3/18/20 1:49 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote: Bob Rentfro Nuclear Operations Training Instructor 5801 South Wintersburg Road, Tonopah, AZ 85354-7529, M.S. 7896 Office 623.393.6372 Cell 623-695-2072 --- NOTICE --- This message is for the

Re: [MBZ] This guy has had this turd listed for weeks

2020-03-18 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
$500 depending on the condition of the rest of the car. Early W220s were bad, bad news. -D > On Mar 18, 2020, at 12:44 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > wrote: > > He did drop the price $100 in the last week or so, maybe in about 3 years he > will be down to a reasonable price > > --FT > >

Re: [MBZ] This guy has had this turd listed for weeks

2020-03-18 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
He did drop the price $100 in the last week or so, maybe in about 3 years he will be down to a reasonable price --FT On 3/18/20 12:39 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: That’s about as close to a turd as you can get in a W220. It’s a Kleb car if there ever was one. -D On Mar 18, 2020, at

Re: [MBZ] This guy has had this turd listed for weeks

2020-03-18 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
That’s about as close to a turd as you can get in a W220. It’s a Kleb car if there ever was one. -D > On Mar 18, 2020, at 12:28 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > wrote: > > Can't imagine why > > https://charleston.craigslist.org/pts/d/johns-island-2001-mercedes-s430/7094183788.html > > --

[MBZ] OT - Hanna-Barbera

2020-03-18 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
For those who enjoyed their cartoons, try watching some of the “Harvey Birdman, Attorney at Law” episodes. These are a parody done by some of the Williams Street (Adult Swim) contributors, I believe. Essentially, Harvey no longer has a gig as a superhero, so he goes legit by becoming an

Re: [MBZ] This guy has had this turd listed for weeks

2020-03-18 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 18/03/2020 11:28 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: Can't imagine why https://charleston.craigslist.org/pts/d/johns-island-2001-mercedes-s430/7094183788.html Easy answer? He has given up on it and wants out and he has about that much in it and hopes to get his money back.

[MBZ] This guy has had this turd listed for weeks

2020-03-18 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Can't imagine why https://charleston.craigslist.org/pts/d/johns-island-2001-mercedes-s430/7094183788.html -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] OT: IIRC some of you like my videos

2020-03-18 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Yes, please do! I now understand about using different mantles and hw they can get carboned up. I like the pink stove. That’s cool. -D > On Mar 18, 2020, at 11:14 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > Thanks for sharing Curt, keep 'em coming! > - > Max > Charleston SC > >

Re: [MBZ] OT:Covid 19 Podcast

2020-03-18 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Having aging parents and keeping siblings involved can get tricky. I was lucky in the sense that my brother and sister both lived within minutes of my Mom’s house and later her assisted living facility. They pretty much tag-teamed each other for her needs which didn’t tax either one of them a

Re: [MBZ] OT: Computers

2020-03-18 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Free enterprise at it's best - maximize $s once you have a virtual monopoly on the market. I also will not buy subscription software from Adobe. On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 8:48 PM Jim Cathey via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > The point of virtualization is to fully utilize hardware. >

Re: [MBZ] OT:Covid 19 Podcast

2020-03-18 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 18/03/2020 10:51 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: Some family would sue the facility for not providing adequate nutrition, even though they are the ones making the situation happen, so there's that. My dad was in one of those places and called the state elder abuse office or nursing

Re: [MBZ] OT:Covid 19 Podcast

2020-03-18 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Good point. We had fought with her about this in the past when she was living alone and never won. My sister was tasked with getting her provisions, so she just wouldn’t buy any. Mom would get friends to swing by and drop off candy for her. We couldn’t figure out how she got it until my sister

Re: [MBZ] OT:Covid 19 Podcast

2020-03-18 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Some family would sue the facility for not providing adequate nutrition, even though they are the ones making the situation happen, so there's that. My dad was in one of those places and called the state elder abuse office or nursing home oversight office or whatever, complaining about the

Re: [MBZ] OT:Covid 19 Podcast

2020-03-18 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
At that age does it really matter? Sounds like when my Mom was in assisted living. She loved to eat candy. We would bring her stuff all the time and I guess she plowed through it as soon as she got it. My brother, the corporate banker who is all business, was her conservator/guardian,

Re: [MBZ] OT: Computers

2020-03-18 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Back in the '90s if you were doing digital video you were using a Mac. Windows options were slim.Today its shifted the other way, if you're not in LA you're probably using a Windows machine. Apple has shafted the Pro video market so regularly that they've finally come to their senses. For

Re: [MBZ] OT: Computers

2020-03-18 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Nice. I did some work in that building in the late 90s, and the guy who liased between our distributor and NBC took us around and showed us the studios and writer’s rooms for SNL. It was off season at the time, so there wasn’t anyone around to speak of. I noted that they had all Mac based

Re: [MBZ] OT:Covid 19 Podcast

2020-03-18 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
If we're talking about even a 1% mortality rate wouldn't China be staring down around 10 million dead? At some point its probably difficult to quantify exactly what people died of. Especially in the elderly population some (many?) of these people were going to die soon anyway. Angie's

Re: [MBZ] OT: Computers

2020-03-18 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I don't know if I've told you guys this story before but if I have feel free to delete. Back around 2006-2007 I was teaching at NBC News in 30 Rock. One of the guys I was teaching was ex-Saturday Night Live staff and asked me if I wanted to eat lunch on the SNL set. Well duh...After lunch we

Re: [MBZ] OT: IIRC some of you like my videos

2020-03-18 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Thanks for sharing Curt, keep 'em coming! - Max Charleston SC On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 1:55 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > This one is a little different from the others: > https://youtu.be/6LYxox-EUGA > -Curt >

Re: [MBZ] OT:Covid 19 Podcast

2020-03-18 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
So I took a listen, and here's my response. These guys (and many others) are predicting 1 - 1.5 million dead in USA. How in the world did China get by with just a few thousand dead, when they completely bungled the initial reaction and did not start their quarantines until 2 months after the

Re: [MBZ] OT: Computers

2020-03-18 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I rarely hear my fans unless I’m rendering video, and even then not that much. As Jim said, I hear my hard drives more than my fans. There were rack mount versions sort of until 2010 - the Xserve products, but I don’t think any of them were as powerful as the cheesegraters. At least not past

[MBZ] Wally World AM Report

2020-03-18 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Went to my local WW this morning at opening time. About 20 people in line, all very orderly and pleasant. I will say that I’ve not seen anything that indicated panic or unpleasantness among the masses when I’ve been out. Plenty of produce, although I did not wander through the department to see

Re: [MBZ] Travel

2020-03-18 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
There’s a reason for that - Perth. Not the most desirable place in Australia, although I’ve been there and thought it to be quite nice. -D > On Mar 18, 2020, at 12:07 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > Tampa to Perth roundtrip about $1300 > Gerry > >> BTDT, only from Milwaukee. ORD