[MBZ] 124 Wagon

Anything special to look out for 124 gasser wagons that would be different than the Sedans? I suppose the SLS and accumulators would be the primary thing? On later 124, the other things to check are the wiring harness and the evaporator. Right? I keep finding 124 wagons for sale and they are

Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon diagnosis

Three causes for that symptom (and I've had them all). Vacuum leak, especially the boot between throttle body and air flow sensor Bad idle control valve (typically dirty, sticks closed too long and the engine stalls) Dribbling injector(s) causing fluctuating idle, occasional stalls and rough

Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon diagnosis

Probably IS, or could be, a vacuum leak nobody found. Donald Snook via Mercedes March 26, 2018 at 3:51 PM This wagon looks decent and cheap. But, the seller says: "THE ONLY BAD IS IT runs and drives just wants to die at a stop or idle but when going down the

Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon diagnosis

Rust at the rear passenger-side fender - RUN AWAY, RUN AWAY! - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go

Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon diagnosis

Does it have a locking torque converter? I wonder if slipping it into neutral at a stop keeps it going. -Curt On Monday, March 26, 2018, 4:52:04 PM EDT, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote: This wagon looks decent and cheap. But, the seller says: "THE ONLY BAD IS

[MBZ] 124 wagon diagnosis

This wagon looks decent and cheap. But, the seller says: "THE ONLY BAD IS IT runs and drives just wants to die at a stop or idle but when going down the street coasting it's fine. The guy I bought it from gave me a file of paperwork that he has done to this several hundreds if not thousands.

[MBZ] 124 wagon water woe

It's a good thing I didn't put the carpet back in yet, after a hard rain last night there is water on the passenger floor again. Less water than before, so progress has been made. Read on peach parts that on some 124 cars, the front drain tubes shrink with age and the bottom end pulls back into

Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon water woe

It's a good thing I didn't put the carpet back in yet, after a hard rain last night there is water on the passenger floor again. Less water than before, so progress has been made. Read on peach parts that on some 124 cars, the front drain tubes shrink with age and the bottom end pulls back into

Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon water woe

On 03/06/2015 10:34 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: It's a good thing I didn't put the carpet back in yet, after a hard rain last night there is water on the passenger floor again. Less water than before, so progress has been made. Read on peach parts that on some 124 cars, the front

Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon water woe

___ Where did you get the replacement gasket for the 123 windshield? RB Cheep chinee crap URO from fleabay. When I looked at the cost of the MB gasket and high probability it is made by URO anyway, I decided to get one more directly from the source,

[MBZ] 124 wagon central locking repair

Dieselvolk, Several days ago I found that the central locking on my 124 wagon had ceased to function. It has always been partially crippled, only working from the driver's door, but that was good enough to limp along, but now even the driver's door didn't lock or unlock. I studied the

Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon hitches, etc

I think the main issue with the 124 hitches and probably later models is the bulb out warning circuitry. Isn't it the case that without modification except for the addition of lights the bulb out warning system will go wonky? Maybe not so much an issue with earlier models.. -joe

Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon hitches, was: Re: Gotta brag -- Check out my $3200 '87 300TDT

Technically speaking, you could get some bulb sockets and make up your own harness that just plugged into the existing lights and didn't interfere with the stock harness... Levi On 5/18/07, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Levi Smith wrote: Sorry, you nixed that one with the not cutting

Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon hitches, was: Re: Gotta brag -- Check out my $3200 '87 300TDT

Levi Smith wrote: Technically speaking, you could get some bulb sockets and make up your own harness that just plugged into the existing lights and didn't interfere with the stock harness... When making my own trailer light wiring, I like to put each circuit on an independent small fuse

Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon hitches, was: Re: Gotta brag -- Check out my $3200 '87 300TDT

I take scraps of wiring and solder them into the tail light assembly at the + points on each specific bulb. Then the scrap wiring can be cut/attached into the trailer harness. It was easy to remove, just needed a pair of dikes, and snip-snip :) -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL

Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon hitches, was: Re: Gotta brag -- Check out my $3200 '87 300TDT

Subject: [MBZ] 124 wagon hitches,was: Re: Gotta brag -- Check out my $3200 '87 300TDT If you want, I can have a look around here for harnessesthere's millions of 124 T's floating around here! -Jeff Zedic Thx, Jeff, but I already got mine. John is mulling that prospect, but it's my

Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon hitches, was: Re: Gotta brag -- Check out my $3200 '87 300TDT

Mike, The trailer wiring harnesses here are a lot different than North American ones. It's a big round plug, approx 2 inches across and sits to the right of the hitch. My new Audi A4 TDI manual has a factory hitch! VERY nice! Jeff Zedic

Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon hitches, was: Re: Gotta brag -- Check out my $3200 '87 300TDT

: Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon hitches,was: Re: Gotta brag -- Check out my $3200 '87 300TDT Mike, The trailer wiring harnesses here are a lot different than North American ones. It's a big round plug, approx 2 inches across and sits to the right of the hitch. My new Audi A4 TDI manual has a factory

Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon hitches, was: Re: Gotta brag -- Check out my $3200 '87 300TDT

TD if they exist..I need to fix the bumpers anyway so i will be building my own reciever hitch for it. Mike - Original Message - From: Joe Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 9:11 AM Subject: [MBZ] 124 wagon hitches,was: Re: Gotta brag

Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon hitches, was: Re: Gotta brag -- Check out my $3200 '87 300TDT

for my Dodge truck so I was doubtfull about the TD. Mike - Original Message - From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 9:34 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon hitches,was: Re: Gotta brag -- Check out my $3200 '87 300TDT

Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon hitches, was: Re: Gotta brag -- Check out my $3200 '87 300TDT

Levi Smith wrote: Sorry, you nixed that one with the not cutting the wiring harness in your last message. I was talking about a universal one that you just put on with a couple vampire taps... Is there actually a socket in the wiring harness that is designated for hooking up the trailer

Re: [MBZ] 124 Wagon Steering - Possible Bad Power Steering Pump

On Mar 27, 2006, at 9:23 AM, Dave Wakin wrote: Not sure what else to check - maybe the PS Filter? I figured I would change that and the fluid and go from there, but I am not sure I am looking at the right peice in the puzzle. Thanks in advance, Dave Wakin Changing the fluid and filter

[MBZ] 124 wagon leaks

The 88 300TE is getting water in both rear wheel wells. Under the third seat is also getting wet. When I open the seat back and bottom, the carpet underneath is wet. Can anyone shed light as to what the source of the water is?On the right, I suspect the antenna. Is it possible that all

[MBZ] 124 wagon leaks

The 88 300TE is getting water in both rear wheel wells. Under the third seat is also getting wet. When I open the seat back and bottom, the carpet underneath is wet. Can anyone shed light as to what the source of the water is?On the right, I suspect the antenna. Is it possible that all

Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon leaks

Loren Faeth wrote: The 88 300TE is getting water in both rear wheel wells. Under the third seat is also getting wet. When I open the seat back and bottom, the carpet underneath is wet. Can anyone shed light as to what the source of the water is?On the right, I suspect the antenna. Is

Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon leaks

Is the leakage between the glass and the side window frame, or between the frame and the body? Or do both need to be resealed? I figured I should start by sitting in the back at a carwash. Short of locating the leaks, I figured the hatch seal was a good place to start. Loren 88 TE et al.

[MBZ] 124 Wagon Steering - Possible Bad Power Steering Pump

I am hoping someone can give me some pointers on what to check here - the car is my wifes 90 300TE with 137K on it. The car was basically parked for the winter and we just started using it again. We took it to my MIL this weekend (about 60 miles), and it was the first time I had driven it

Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon leaks

Loren Faeth wrote: The 88 300TE is getting water in both rear wheel wells. Under the third seat is also getting wet. When I open the seat back and bottom, the carpet underneath is wet. Can anyone shed light as to what the source of the water is?On the right, I suspect the antenna. Is

Re: [MBZ] 124 Wagon Steering - Possible Bad Power Steering Pump

Dave Wakin wrote: I am hoping someone can give me some pointers on what to check here - the car is my wifes 90 300TE with 137K on it. The car was basically parked for the winter and we just started using it again. We took it to my MIL this weekend (about 60 miles), and it was the first time

Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon leaks

Thank you, Sir! At 10:30 AM 3/27/2006, you wrote: Loren Faeth wrote: The 88 300TE is getting water in both rear wheel wells. Under the third seat is also getting wet. When I open the seat back and bottom, the carpet underneath is wet. Can anyone shed light as to what the source of the

Re: [MBZ] 124 Wagon Steering - Possible Bad Power Steering Pump

Thanks for the reply Marshall - The car has never been in an accident and the problem doesn't seem to be temperature related as it did it on the way to work today (about 20 or so out). I will check the ball joints. Would a clogged filter do this? What has me confused is after I turned and

Re: [MBZ] 124 Wagon Steering - Possible Bad Power Steering Pump

Dave Wakin wrote: Thanks for the reply Marshall - The car has never been in an accident and the problem doesn't seem to be temperature related as it did it on the way to work today (about 20 or so out). I will check the ball joints. Would a clogged filter do this? What has me confused is

Re: [MBZ] 124 Wagon Steering - Possible Bad Power Steering Pump

Plan to get change that and see what happens - thanks again for your help Dave - Original Message - From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 Wagon Steering - Possible Bad Power

Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon leaks

When the seal on a 123 300 TD rear hatch leaks the rear cargo bay carpet is wet near where the hatch closes. Also, both my side windows leaked at different times, and Banner Glass resealed them for about $20/side (this was a decade ago). Andrew 1983 300TD On 3/27/06, Marshall Booth [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon Rear strut/shock

Loren, I'm no expert on the 124's... But I don't think the rears are struts.. What I've chased shows the following: Shock Absorber; Rear Left/Right; Hydropneumatic Self-Leveling They ain't cheap! There are struts on the front only. Hope this helps... Chuck Phoenix AZ

Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon Rear strut/shock

Hi Chuck, I know the new ones are $500 each. I know the 123s can be rebuilt. I am hoping there is a rebuild option for the 124. Shock Absorber; Rear Left/Right; Hydropneumatic Self-Leveling is the book jargon. I have heard them referred to as shocks and as struts. I don't care what

Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon Rear strut/shock

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[MBZ] 124 wagon Rear strut/shock

I want to rebuild the rear struts in the 88 TE. I know others have rebuilt the 123 hydraulic struts. Rusty can't find a kit to sell me for the 124 wagon struts. Has anyone rebuilt 124 struts, or is the only choice to buy new ones? I need a source for parts, and advice about any tools

Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon hydraulic suspension

] Subject: [MBZ] 124 wagon hydraulic suspension To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I am away working on the 300TE I bought. On the 88 300 TE i just got, there is no fluid in the suspension reservoir. THe rear struts have the boots pushed

[MBZ] 124 wagon

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-6-cyl-TD-87-Mercedes-300-TD-Wagon-Turbo-Diesel-No-Reserve_W0QQitemZ4583384257QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,

Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon trailer hitch

The valley hitch at Hitches 4 less says it is USA Spec only. That leads me to believe there is some difference under the car. There was a huge difference under our Euro 123 1984 wagon and our US 123 1985 wagon. I never knew is it was EUro vs USA, gas vs diesel, or 1984 vs 1985 or some

Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon trailer hitch

On Thu, Jul 14, 2005 at 08:32:46AM -0500, Loren Faeth wrote: The valley hitch at Hitches 4 less says it is USA Spec only. That leads me to believe there is some difference under the car. There was a huge difference under our Euro 123 1984 wagon and our US 123 1985 wagon. I never knew is

[MBZ] 124 wagon trailer hitch

Dieselvolk, OK, I've dug into the Euro EPC Compact and found plenty of info, including diagrams of the factory hitch, part #'s, and reference to the 1900 kg rating. So, given that these would fit a 124.193 in Europe, will the same parts fit into a 124.193 in US spec? Has anyone searched the

[MBZ] 124 wagon hitch - aftermarket

Jan, Thanks for those links. Curiously, the hitches-4-less link says that it's rated for 3500 lbs, fits the 300 class SEDANS, including the 300TD. I'll probably have to call them to see which is the real story. As far as the metric vs. english problem, I've got a metric (50 mm) hitch on my

Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon buyers guide needed

JabbaHursty wrote: do the 124s rust up north? i ask this because outside of a few common spots, I am yet to see a 124 with rust. just looking at my 109 and 115 brings up bubbles or rust, my 123s have considerable rust, but my 2 124s show nearly nothing. The rust protection on 124/201s is

Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon buyers guide needed

On Mon, Jul 04, 2005 at 10:12:32AM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: so can the 14 heads be repaired at a machine shop, and if so, will the problem just come up again? Kaleb, Having *JUST* gone through replacing a cracked head on an 87 300D, I can say without a doubt that I would not waste my

Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon buyers guide needed

Sounds like you're getting close, Kevin. When do I get to take it for a spin? joe On 7/4/05, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jul 04, 2005 at 10:12:32AM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: so can the 14 heads be repaired at a machine shop, and if so, will the problem just come up again?

Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon buyers guide needed

. -- Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 21:53:54 -0700 From: Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon buyers guide needed The car lights off and is more or less happy, but the pressure leak out the chain tensioner because some moron (who, me?) didn't have the alignment

Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon buyers guide needed

] 124 wagon buyers guide needed The car lights off and is more or less happy, but the pressure leak out the chain tensioner because some moron (who, me?) didn't have the alignment of the aluminum spacer washer between the tensioner and the head spot on perfect, and munched the washer. Oh

Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon buyers guide needed

andrew strasfogel wrote: All this talk about those new-fangled 124 wagons being the best in the universe makes me mad! I just love my 1983 300TD with 275 K miles. It has enough pep to pass almost anyone on the highway, enough room to carry anything reasonably sized, is as trustworthy as an

Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon buyers guide needed

do the 124s rust up north? i ask this because outside of a few common spots, I am yet to see a 124 with rust. just looking at my 109 and 115 brings up bubbles or rust, my 123s have considerable rust, but my 2 124s show nearly nothing. At 01:08 PM 7/5/2005, you wrote: andrew strasfogel

Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon buyers guide needed

On Tue, Jul 05, 2005 at 07:23:43AM -0600, Dave M. wrote: Kevin, There isn't really any alignment needed on the tensioner seal. More likely (?) you had the wrong one. There is an early tensioner and a late/improved tensioner. The newer one requires a larger aluminum O-ring seal. If you put a

Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon buyers guide needed

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shipmates, I've located an '87 300TD for sale, and the price is right, but I need to get smart on what the weak spots are. According to the owner, the car has some rust but it's been fixed. The car is originally from MA. What are the typical places to look for rust?

Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon buyers guide needed

The 1987 300D/TD buyer's guide is also posted as a plain text file at this link: http://www.w124performance.com/docs/mb/articles/124.1x3_buying_tips.txt :-) -dm == If you've got rusted jack points, Jeff, I'd wager a tidy sum that a little probing of the underbody

Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon buyers guide needed

It *might* be possible to repair some cracks in the original 14 heads, Kaleb, but I doubt it would make a lot of sense to try. During the original production of the OM603 engines, which ran iirc thru m/y '95 there were no fewer than 5 revised castings introduced, the latest of which might have

Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon buyers guide needed

Bill Gallagher wrote: Marshall Booth wrote: The 124 E320 TE wagon was an even nicer car IF YOU ARE WILLING TO TOLERATE a gasoline engine. .. Marshall can you explain your position on the 320 ..I do not like the lower MPG, 23 or so, and the much higher fuel cost than a diesel .

Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon buyers guide needed

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: so can the 14 heads be repaired at a machine shop, and if so, will the problem just come up again? The history of repairing those heads is VERY poor. I know of a few that have been repaired and the repairs have lasted more than 20kmi but MOST of the attemps at repair

Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon buyers guide needed

From what I understand, head repairs are never guaranteed by shops to start with, and you would need a really good shop to properly work on any diesel head. Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: so can the 14 heads be repaired at a machine shop, and if so, will the problem

Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon buyers guide needed

The head number is towards the front of the engine on the drivers side. John On 7/3/05, Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about engine head problems - I know that #14 heads are weaker, and 17 and up are better. Where do I look to see what # the head is?

Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon buyers guide needed

I think you'll have Marshall chime in soon to tell you that the head faults are NOT as common as you may have read elsewhere. My own #14 head has 278Kmi on it and performs flawlessly. Several others on this list have similar stories. The jack points seem to rust first on this car. That's

Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon buyers guide needed

...the BEST car ever--period. Cars don't typically rust badly out here on the Left coast, but I would definitely be wary of potential body cancer in the area behind the front fender liners. These areas can accumulate quite a bit of muck and road debris that traps moisture (and salt?). Other

Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon buyers guide needed

AFAIK it's the exact same engine except for having a tandem pump in the TD to run the rear suspension system. Jeff Zedic Toronto 87 300TD 83 300D

Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon buyers guide needed

Mac, The engine in question was first utilized in the 86 W126 model and only the West Coast models had the dreaded Trap Oxidizer installed. For 1987 both the W126 and W124 had the TO installed. The TO caused the engine to overheat and do damage to the aluminum heads. Most TO's have been removed