I am not discounting the potential severity of the wuhan flu. At
the same time there is considerable evidence that the media has over
hyped the danger. The article below is an illustration of how to
lie with statistics. You don't even need to buy Mr. Huff's little
book.
Th
Because the press is overly fond of sharing the data, I am able to keep track
of the hotbed of US infection on an hourly basis, even though I no longer live
in WA. Latest figure had 74 deaths out of 1376 confirmed infected. That seems
consistent with the figure stated below. There was a 10% f
So, I should increase intake of Gin and Tonic?
I wonder if Schweppes still uses original recipe in their tonic
clay
> On Mar 19, 2020, at 5:16 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> If chloroquine does prove to be the magic bullet that controls the
> coronavirus epidemic, it will be
Worldwide we should already be building up a population of cured and immune
workers who can go back to work in perfect safety and gradually get cities and
towns back on a functional basis; the first item being the restoration of the
medical system to the point where both coronavirus patients, an
Umm - immunity to the common cold, another corona virus, doesn't work.
There's no real reason to think that this corona virus will let you build
immunity to it either. All it has to do is morph, change, evolve a bit, and
off it goes.
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 11:35 PM archer75--- via Mercedes <
merc
No, gin and hydroxychloroquine.
Gerry
> So, I should increase intake of Gin and Tonic?
>
> I wonder if Schweppes still uses original recipe in their tonic
>
> clay
>
> > On Mar 19, 2020, at 5:16 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes
> > wrote:
> >
> > If chloroquine does prove to be the magic bu
Assuming a person has a normal immune system, a person should be immune for a
period of months. This supposition is based on the nature of somewhat similar
virus diseases.
A university prof virologist, says the difficulty of making assumptions about
this virus is that it has the characteristics
If it says 'contains quinine' on the bottle then
it should. If I remember right quinine fluoresces
under UV light so you could hit it with your AC
leak detector light and see what happens
MG.
Clay via Mercedes wrote:
So, I should increase intake of Gin and Tonic?
I wonder if Schweppes
On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 11:55:36 -0500 MG via Mercedes
wrote:
> If it says 'contains quinine' on the bottle then
> it should. If I remember right quinine fluoresces
> under UV light so you could hit it with your AC
> leak detector light and see what happens
But you cannot aim the light at the bot
It still comes in glass bottles? All I've looked
at in the stores are in plastic. In any case your
method will probably work quite well, unless you
don't want to buy a bottle just to find out.
MG
Craig via Mercedes wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 11:55:36 -0500 MG via Mercedes
wrote:
If it says
I wonder -is there "quinine flavoring" that subverts this proposed remedy?
On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 12:59 PM MG via Mercedes
wrote:
> It still comes in glass bottles? All I've looked
> at in the stores are in plastic. In any case your
> method will probably work quite well, unless you
> don't wan
On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 11:58:23 -0500 MG via Mercedes
wrote:
> It still comes in glass bottles? All I've looked
> at in the stores are in plastic. In any case your
> method will probably work quite well, unless you
> don't want to buy a bottle just to find out.
Sorry, I presumed it came in glass
Quinine can be dangerous:
https://www.peoplespharmacy.com/articles/is-quinine-in-tonic-water-safe
..
MG via Mercedes wrote:
> It still comes in glass bottles? All I've looked
> at in the stores are in plastic. In any case your
> method wi
The major point of difference is that millions have resistance through
their flu shots, whereas zero are protected against COVID 19. If there
were no flu vaccine how many deaths would there be?
On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 10:35 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> I am
More to the point, how many people will need hospitalization to survive, and
for how long. Doctors in Italy are being forced to decide who gets life saving
care already, and the case load is still climbing.
At the current rate of increase in caseload in the US we will hit 1.5 million
infection
right. and the theory is that by having people try to be hermits, we
can lower the peak numbers and spread the hopital load out over a longer
time. Sounds good on paper. We are old enough to remember when we
DID have a lot more hospital beds. Hospitals were closed and torn down
or conve
Well, if we had used the WHO test for the novel coronavirus (Like South Korea
did) when it was offered to us in late January we likely could have prevented
the vast majority of the cases we have now because we could have actually
tracked exposure.
WHO is far from perfect, but so is the Senate.
The key question is 4-5% of what? The total population? The number of
estimated cases? The number that tested positive? The number sick enough to be
hospitalized?
I also heard that some young/healthy folks infected but with minimal symptoms
suffered (permanent? long term?)lung damage.
> --
4-5% of those infected, so far as the available data goes. May be lower due to
lack of complete screening and the fact that infections can be mild enough they
don't get reported. Given that Itailians are in general a little healthier
than US citizens (lower BMI, more exercise, etc) and those t
Italy has an older population than the US and much older than South Korea,
and apparently they stay skinny by smoking, there is your explanation for a
higher death rate there.
-
Max
Charleston SC
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 7:12 AM Peter Frederick via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wro
I think that the law / regulations set in place by Congress prevented us
from using any test developed by private industry or outside the US, back
in January. Hindsight is 20-20.
Remember that in mid-January, WHO was parroting the CHICOM lie that this
virus was not able to be transmitted from hum
CHICOMS ARE SAYING YOUNG healthy people who have been later scanned (Did
not say ct or mri) show 20% permanent lung damage. no confirmation
from other areas.
I don't see any reason why they would lie about this, but who knows.
They lie about everything else.
Peter Frederick via Mercedes wr
WHO is as believable as the chicoms.
Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote on 3/19/20 7:07 AM:
I think that the law / regulations set in place by Congress prevented us
from using any test developed by private industry or outside the US, back
in January. Hindsight is 20-20.
Remember that in mid-Janua
Then and now:
H1N1: From 12 April 2009 to 10 April 2010, a study estimated that
approximately 60.8 million cases (range: 43.3-89.3 million), 274,304
hospitalizations (195,086-402,719), and 12,469 deaths (8868-18,306)
occurred in the United States due to pH1N1.
COVID-19 As of today: ~9400 cases,
Forgot to add that in China, ~82,000 cases, ~3300 deaths.
-
Max
Charleston SC
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 8:32 AM Meade Dillon wrote:
> Then and now:
>
> H1N1: From 12 April 2009 to 10 April 2010, a study estimated that
> approximately 60.8 million cases (range: 43.3-89.3 million), 274,
The WHO test was never offered to us.
"No discussions occurred between WHO and CDC about WHO providing
COVID-19 tests to the United States," said WHO spokeswoman Margaret
Harris. "This is consistent with experience since the United States
does not ordinarily rely on WHO for reagents or diagnostic
Chloroquine is being expedited as a treatment. It has worked in South Korea,
and France. There is another anti malaria drug, but I don't recall the name.
These can also be taken as a prophylaxis for those are highest risk. Home run.
Possibly a grand slam.
Rick
___
Right and in January Congress was too busy impeaching the president rather than
legislating. I can’t image that helped the situation.
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> On Mar 19, 2020, at 8:08 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> I think that the law / regulations set in place by Congress prevente
Oh please. I never heard Trump complain about the lack of attention to a
possible pandemic in January.
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 1:38 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> Right and in January Congress was too busy impeaching the president rather
> than legislating. I
Its also kind of a Faustian bargain too. If we "protect" ourselves this way
but destroy our economy whats the point? You'll be alive but have no money for
food or housing...
-Curt
On Wednesday, March 18, 2020, 11:19:19 PM EDT, Curley McLain via Mercedes
wrote:
right. and the theory
Oh man, last night I read up on the poop show that was the CDC on testing.
When this is all done theres gonna be people at the CDC that will have some
'splaining to do.10 days they sat on failed test kits "We'll work it out."
finally private labs worked it out once it was clear the CDC never wo
Smoking is quite prevalent in China also.
Meade Dillon via Mercedes writes:
> Italy has an older population than the US and much older than South
> Korea, and apparently they stay skinny by smoking, there is your
> explanation for a higher death rate there.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
I've basically stopped listening to any "I heard" because its probably all
rubbish.Mild symptoms don't result in lung damage, that doesn't pass the sniff
test. If there was lung damage, especially if it was permanent, the symptoms
wouldn't be mild.
-Curt
On Thursday, March 19, 2020, 2:41:3
If the entire world is sitting at 170,000 cases right now I find it
extraordinarily unlikely that the US alone will have 10x that number in 4
weeks. Especially with China already over the hump and having seen zero new
cases yesterday.
Yes I assume the Chinese are either lying about no new cases
The boy told me his hospital folks developed their own testing stuff a
week or two ago and it was better
--FT
On 3/19/20 2:02 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
Oh man, last night I read up on the poop show that was the CDC on testing. When this is
all done theres gonna be people at the C
I heard that on the radio today. THey said countries where Malaria is
rampant, and Chloroquine is widely used, there is no or almost no wuhan
virus.
Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote on 3/19/20 11:51 AM:
Chloroquine is being expedited as a treatment. It has worked in South Korea,
and France. The
If chloroquine does prove to be the magic bullet that controls the coronavirus
epidemic, it will be a remarkable coincidence since the organism it has been
killing for 70+ years; a protzoan; is completely unrelated to the virus that
causes coronavirus infection. That's based on current knowledge
The Brits in India were on to something with the gin & tonic. I shall be
practicing prophylaxis tomorrow evening. This isolation is tough but I’m going
to try.
--FT
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> On Mar 19, 2020, at 9:17 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> If chloroquine does prove to be the mag
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