[MBZ] Classic cars

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Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars?

2011-06-22 Thread Randy Bennell
On 21/06/2011 7:06 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: I think its my memories from high school in the early 90's where an early-mid '80s Mustang was an available POS. A friend had a 4cyl automatic that was a particularly galling piece of junk. -Curt Later 80's 5.0 was a hot car. Factory headers and

Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars?

2011-06-22 Thread Randy Bennell
On 21/06/2011 8:36 PM, OK Don wrote: Safety, economy, and hotrod are mutually exclusive. Pick hotrod, and you give up the other two. You build one for the pleasure of creation, and the joy of acceleration, not for practicality. I'm the one who stuffed an aluminum block Olds 215 into an MGA and

Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars?

2011-06-22 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 9:12 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Also, economy is a relative thing. A small block with an overdrive tranny  could be quick but not burn the fuel of a big block. Absolutely right. This is the trick Detroit uses to get close to 30 mpg highway out of cars

Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars?

2011-06-22 Thread Randy Bennell
On 21/06/2011 8:52 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Here ya go, Randy. Offer him $1000 and drag it home. http://lansing.craigslist.org/cto/2454621704.html _ I like that. Kits are available to make a swap pretty easy too! Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new

Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars?

2011-06-22 Thread Randy Bennell
On 21/06/2011 4:59 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: Just yesterday I was thinking about this for some reason unclear. Anyway, what I came up with was to get an 80s extended cab S-10/15 pickup (I had an 83 ext cab, and liked it which is why I thought of it, I think that was the first year for them) and

Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars?

2011-06-22 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 21/06/2011 8:52 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Offer him $1000 and drag it home. http://lansing.craigslist.org/cto/2454621704.html I like that. Kits are available to make a swap pretty easy too! I'd be all over that if I

Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars?

2011-06-22 Thread Curt Raymond
Sure, but I still have a hard time forgiving them for putting a 4cyl auto in there... -Curt Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 11:08:23 -0500 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars? Message-ID: 4e021377.6010...@bennell.ca

Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars?

2011-06-22 Thread Randy Bennell
have a hard time forgiving them for putting a 4cyl auto in there... -Curt Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 11:08:23 -0500 From: Randy Bennellrbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars? Message-ID:4e021377.6010...@bennell.ca Content-Type: text/plain

Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars?

2011-06-22 Thread Jim Cathey
(why is it so hard for amateur stereo installers to put everything back the way they found it?). Because even though you push on it just as hard as you pulled on it to get it open, it never seems to 'stick'! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and

[MBZ] Classic Cars?

2011-06-21 Thread Randy Bennell
My 22 year old mechanic son has a desire to build a hot rod type classic car. He works for a shop that does that sort of thing and that has fanned the flame, so to speak. In any event, I have been thinking of encouraging and participating to some extent as he lacks the cash to do it right

Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars?

2011-06-21 Thread Walt Zarnoch
Firebird's are always good, as are Stangs an Corvettes. Maybe an old Packard if you can find a shell cheap? Walt On Jun 21, 2011 2:54 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: My 22 year old mechanic son has a desire to build a hot rod type classic car. He works for a shop that does that

Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars?

2011-06-21 Thread Mitch Haley
Randy Bennell wrote: My 22 year old mechanic son has a desire to build a hot rod type classic car. He works for a shop that does that sort of thing and that has fanned the flame, so to speak. If you can find a solid finnie, W108, etc that was destined for scrap or parting out, why not use

Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars?

2011-06-21 Thread E M
No rod or muscle car is going to be as safe as a modern car. Having said that, I would think if you're doing a rod, you can update it with some modern features, like better seats for neck protection,modern steering columns, etc., along with proper belts. I prefer hardtops over drop tops, not

Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars?

2011-06-21 Thread Max Dillon
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 2:54:03 PM Subject: [MBZ] Classic Cars? My 22 year old mechanic son has a desire to build a hot rod type classic car. He works for a shop that does that sort of thing and that has fanned the flame, so to speak. In any event, I

Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars?

2011-06-21 Thread Randy Bennell
On 21/06/2011 2:10 PM, E M wrote: No rod or muscle car is going to be as safe as a modern car. Having said that, I would think if you're doing a rod, you can update it with some modern features, like better seats for neck protection,modern steering columns, etc., along with proper belts. I

Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars?

2011-06-21 Thread Randy Bennell
On 21/06/2011 2:08 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Randy Bennell wrote: My 22 year old mechanic son has a desire to build a hot rod type classic car. He works for a shop that does that sort of thing and that has fanned the flame, so to speak. If you can find a solid finnie, W108, etc that was

Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars?

2011-06-21 Thread Randy Bennell
...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 2:54:03 PM Subject: [MBZ] Classic Cars? My 22 year old mechanic son has a desire to build a hot rod type classic car. He works for a shop that does that sort of thing and that has fanned the flame, so to speak

Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars?

2011-06-21 Thread Mitch Haley
Randy Bennell wrote: I am not sure a finnie would be much safer than old Chevies etc either. Marshall looked into it and bought a new finnie right after his wife was killed in an old Chevy or similar. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used

Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars?

2011-06-21 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: What do you folks think is one of the safer classic cars? How about a big old Cadillac from the '70s or early '80s, before they downsized and went to FWD? Drop a built SBC in there with a tall-geared transmission and

Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars?

2011-06-21 Thread Mitch Haley
Max Dillon wrote: Caprice Classic wagon? Kingswood or Vista Cruiser. Mit chromed Keystone Classics. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars?

2011-06-21 Thread Curt Raymond
. The car will handle better than most mid '80s US iron to begin with and should tolerate moderate hop up well. -Curt Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 13:54:03 -0500 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Classic Cars? Message-ID: 4e00e8cb

Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars?

2011-06-21 Thread Fmiser
Randy Bennell wrote: I like the Caprice or Impala SS from the early 90's. Not so many around now though. There were lots of cheap beat up ones at one time as the police forces used them. My son might be convinced to go for something like that. He needs it to be good sized as he is 6'3.

Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars?

2011-06-21 Thread Mitch Haley
Curt Raymond wrote: Maybe go for a serious challenge like a hot rod Pinto wagon. Oooh what about an AMC Eagle? Ever see a mid engine 454/455 Vega Kamback with a Toronado tranny? (chassis tubbed for giant rear tires, of course) Or, better yet, put a fairly modern drivetrain, like from a

Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars?

2011-06-21 Thread G Mann
H .. Safety AND Horsepower. OK.. A two door Volvo with an old school Chrysler Hemi , one that makes 1000 HP with blower and Zoomie headers? Somehow young guy + Volvo + 1000 HP Hemi blown engine na doesn't compute for safety... What ever he builds encourage him to give

Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars?

2011-06-21 Thread andrew strasfogel
Wow, a real job! How far is Grand Point from Winnipeg? Andrew On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 5:08 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Curt Raymond wrote: Maybe go for a serious challenge like a hot rod Pinto wagon. Oooh what about an AMC Eagle? Ever see a mid engine 454/455 Vega Kamback

Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars?

2011-06-21 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I think the Mustang is probably a better platform than most GM vehicles although they are severely uncool... Mustangs uncool? Must be a regional thing. Out here on the West Coast the '80s Fox-platform 'Stangs are

Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars?

2011-06-21 Thread Randy Bennell
On 21/06/2011 3:43 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Seriously? Nothing... A newer car will just allow him to get killed in a more interesting way. He'll also drive himself broke in a hurry. Maybe help him learn some of the excitement of planning for his future. Yeah I couldn't say that with a straight

Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars?

2011-06-21 Thread Randy Bennell
Not far. Just over the floodway on 59 going south. Before one gets to Ile de Chenes. Randy On 21/06/2011 4:21 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Wow, a real job! How far is Grand Point from Winnipeg? Andrew On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 5:08 PM, Mitch Haleym...@voyager.net wrote: Curt Raymond

Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars?

2011-06-21 Thread Randy Bennell
On 21/06/2011 4:36 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Curt Raymondcurtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I think the Mustang is probably a better platform than most GM vehicles although they are severely uncool... Mustangs uncool? Must be a regional thing. Out here on the

Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars?

2011-06-21 Thread Rich Thomas
Just yesterday I was thinking about this for some reason unclear. Anyway, what I came up with was to get an 80s extended cab S-10/15 pickup (I had an 83 ext cab, and liked it which is why I thought of it, I think that was the first year for them) and do some chopping and dropping, put in a

Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars?

2011-06-21 Thread Mitch Haley
http://www.hotrod.com/featuredvehicles/113_0703_volvo_1800/index.html http://rides.webshots.com/album/112422497drGwED ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars?

2011-06-21 Thread Curt Raymond
Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars? Message-ID: BANLkTinr638UPqZHK7jFN1_ycedMJWz7=w...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I think the Mustang is probably a better

Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars?

2011-06-21 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
automatic that was a particularly galling piece of junk. -Curt Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 14:36:29 -0700 From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars? Message-ID: BANLkTinr638UPqZHK7jFN1_ycedMJWz7=w...@mail.gmail.com

Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars?

2011-06-21 Thread OK Don
Safety, economy, and hotrod are mutually exclusive. Pick hotrod, and you give up the other two. You build one for the pleasure of creation, and the joy of acceleration, not for practicality. I'm the one who stuffed an aluminum block Olds 215 into an MGA and drove it 100,000 miles. Lots of fun, but

Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars?

2011-06-21 Thread Walt Zarnoch
Get him to register on Hotrodcoffeeshop.com, we'll make sure he gets good ideas. :D Walt On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 9:36 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Safety, economy, and hotrod are mutually exclusive. Pick hotrod, and you give up the other two. You build one for the pleasure of creation,

Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars?

2011-06-21 Thread Mitch Haley
Here ya go, Randy. Offer him $1000 and drag it home. http://lansing.craigslist.org/cto/2454621704.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars?

2011-06-21 Thread Allan Streib
Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca writes: I am not sure a finnie would be much safer than old Chevies etc either. Assuming it's still solid, it's most likely much safer than any 60's Detroit product, though not as safe as modern car. Even then MB designed crumple zones and had collapsible

Re: [MBZ] Classic Cars?

2011-06-21 Thread Kevin Kraly
One of my uncles in Indiana built a rear engine 1971 Datsun Pickup with a 455/toronado setup with shortened axles. It was one heck of a screamer that would lift the front end while smoking the rear tires! I don't know what happened to that thing. Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon