[MBZ] OT: Pilot asleep at controls of 747

2019-02-24 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
On Sun, 24 Feb 2019 15:28:45 -0500 "arche...@embarqmail.com" wrote: > Pilot asleep at controls of 747. > > https://www.instagram.com/p/BuHB1AyHpUM/ > Gerry wrote: I don't see how airline pilots stay awake on long flights with the autopilots flying the plane. Do they take turns napping? Read bo

Re: [MBZ] OT: Pilot asleep at controls of 747

2019-02-24 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Yeah, excitement is NEVER something to hope for. On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 5:08 PM archer75--- via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > On Sun, 24 Feb 2019 15:28:45 -0500 > "arche...@embarqmail.com" wrote: > > > Pilot asleep at controls of 747. > > > > https://www.instagram.com/p/BuHB1AyHpUM

Re: [MBZ] OT: Pilot asleep at controls of 747

2019-02-24 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQbj9uvYL8I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMhYl74vw2c --FT On 2/24/19 6:13 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Yeah, excitement is NEVER something to hope for. On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 5:08 PM archer75--- via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: On

Re: [MBZ] OT: Pilot asleep at controls of 747

2019-02-25 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Sydney to LA on the a380 qantas run two complete flight crews. One handles takeoff and landing. The other handles the middle bit. Crew 1 sleeps in the middle. For takeoff and landing there is always an extra officer on the flight deck whose job is only to watch the other three and pick up any erro

Re: [MBZ] OT: Pilot asleep at controls of 747

2019-02-25 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
So are you saying that in essence, the sleeping pilot is nothing to worry about? On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 11:49 AM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Sydney to LA on the a380 qantas run two complete flight crews. One handles > takeoff and landing. The other handles the m

Re: [MBZ] OT: Pilot asleep at controls of 747

2019-02-25 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
What I think he said was: a full crew (#1) handled the plane during landing/take-off while the other rested, then Crew #2 that was resting handled the duties during the middle part of the flight. I think a crew consists of 3 to 5 or more members depending on the plane. On 2/25/2019 3:30 PM

Re: [MBZ] OT: Pilot asleep at controls of 747

2019-02-25 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I read the message. Again - Does the photo show something to be concerned about or not? On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 3:58 PM Larry Turner via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > What I think he said was: a full crew (#1) handled the plane during > landing/take-off while the other rested, then C

Re: [MBZ] OT: Pilot asleep at controls of 747

2019-02-25 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Only if he slumps forward against the controls. On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 3:40 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I read the message. Again - Does the photo show something to be concerned > about or not? > > On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 3:58 PM Larry Turner via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] OT: Pilot asleep at controls of 747

2019-02-25 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
It does if the other pilot goes to sleep as well. I've read about two instances of that happening to major airline pilots; one plane flew out over the Pacific, and the other either overflew, or woke up before they overflew, their destination on a flight from the West Coast to somewhere in Minnes

Re: [MBZ] OT: Pilot asleep at controls of 747

2019-02-25 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
God point. Sleep is contagious. Yet - these things fly themselves. On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 8:06 PM archer75--- via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > It does if the other pilot goes to sleep as well. I've read about two > instances of that happening to major airline pilots; one plane fl

Re: [MBZ] OT: Pilot asleep at controls of 747

2019-02-25 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
The crews are each three people on the 380. So there are six officers aboard the long haul flights. On Qantas anyway. There is considerable variation in crew training and staffing levels between airlines. I am sure other airlines fly similar routes with less manpower. Sleeping at the stick is nev

Re: [MBZ] OT: Pilot asleep at controls of 747

2019-02-25 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Aircrew is strictly limited to FAA ruled "duty time" for each day. FAA mandates how much "duty time" can be done which is not just "flight time at the controls". Every airline worldwide has to meet FAA regulations with few exceptions in order to operate in airline flight corridors and controlled fl

Re: [MBZ] OT: Pilot asleep at controls of 747

2019-02-26 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I was flying business class to Amsterdam on KLM, a regular gig when we went to the Middle East or Africa, as KLM and El Al were the only airlines we were allowed to fly for security reasons. Anyway, I’m on the upper deck of a 747-400 and my seat back breaks before we take off. We’ve already push

Re: [MBZ] OT: Pilot asleep at controls of 747

2019-02-26 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Broken seats are not all that uncommon and they MUST reseat you no matter how trivial the flaw may seem. On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 6:10 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I was flying business class to Amsterdam on KLM, a regular gig when we > went to the Middle East or A

Re: [MBZ] OT: Pilot asleep at controls of 747

2019-02-26 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Yup. I know that all too well. I actually enjoyed the bunkroom as it had all the amenities of home despite being a little cramped, and when the cabin crew ducked in to get a break they usually brought me food and drinks, too. -D > On Feb 26, 2019, at 10:19 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > > B

Re: [MBZ] OT: Pilot asleep at controls of 747

2019-02-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
That wouldn’t happen now days. They would pull back to the gate and throw you off. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 26, 2019, at 5:09 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > I was flying business class to Amsterdam on KLM, a regular gig when we went > to the Middle East or Africa, as KLM and El

Re: [MBZ] OT: Pilot asleep at controls of 747

2019-02-26 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Doubt it. Not for a business class passenger. Business and first class passengers are the ones that pay the bills. Kick me off the flight? You just dropped $2k in airfare. -D > On Feb 26, 2019, at 10:55 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > That wouldn’t happen now days. They woul