Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini-splits

2022-10-15 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 21:58:31 -0400 mitch--- via Mercedes wrote: > On 2022-10-15 13:18, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > > > Moriarty is 6.2k. > > I thought when you were sick and recovered enough to go home you went > home to 10k elevation which your lungs weren't ready to deal with. > I must

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini-splits

2022-10-15 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes
On 2022-10-15 13:18, Craig via Mercedes wrote: Moriarty is 6.2k. I thought when you were sick and recovered enough to go home you went home to 10k elevation which your lungs weren't ready to deal with. I must have misunderstood. ___

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini-splits

2022-10-15 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
That's what I do also - wearing only shorts and shoes unless I'm grinding or welding. The large volume of moving air across the bare skin makes a huge difference! Notice my tag line ... On Sat, Oct 15, 2022 at 7:58 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Yea perhaps. But

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini-splits

2022-10-15 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
An AC guy told me that a 3½ ton mini-split would take the cold and hot edges off my hangar - a 2k sq.ft. metal building with spray foam on the ceiling and styrofoam sheets on the walls. On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 8:04 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I wonder if I

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini-splits

2022-10-15 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
I don’t think the derate for altitude is significant. I would be more concerned about their efficiency at low temperatures. And being a heat pump, the air coming out of it won’t feel warm like it does with a gas fired furnace. Specs for the MR.COOL DIY units:

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini-splits

2022-10-15 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 08:46:01 -0400 mitch--- via Mercedes wrote: > I just had a thought. > There's an inverse relationship between altitude and the heat carrying > capacity of a given volume of air. > What does that do to the efficiency of a heat pump, in Flagstaff (7k) > or Moriarty (10k)?

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini-splits

2022-10-15 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Hahaha, yea. It is currently at 68% this morning. It gets up to mid 80% in the summer. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 15, 2022, at 8:10 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > Is there much humidity in Okie land? > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > >> On Sat, Oct 15, 2022 at 9:08

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2022-10-15 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Is there much humidity in Okie land? Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sat, Oct 15, 2022 at 9:08 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote: On 2022-10-15 08:58, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > Yea perhaps. But truth be told, even in hot July, if I have my big > shop fan blowing right on me,

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini-splits

2022-10-15 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes
On 2022-10-15 08:58, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Yea perhaps. But truth be told, even in hot July, if I have my big shop fan blowing right on me, it’s really not too bad. As soon as I step away from the fan though, oh boy. Put the fan in the path of the mini-split so that it blows cool

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2022-10-15 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Yea perhaps. But truth be told, even in hot July, if I have my big shop fan blowing right on me, it’s really not too bad. As soon as I step away from the fan though, oh boy. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 15, 2022, at 7:48 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > On 2022-10-15 08:43, Kaleb

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini-splits

2022-10-15 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes
On 2022-10-15 08:43, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: My shop is 40x60 with what I would estimate to be 16-18’ ceilings at the peak. It is insulated though. Maybe put one or two units in, with the air outlet aimed at a likely work area, and let it blow conditioned air straight at you while

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini-splits

2022-10-15 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes
On 2022-10-15 07:46, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: Good point - if you live in a temperate area it’s important to see what the unit’s efficient is rated for at a given temperature. I just had a thought. There's an inverse relationship between altitude and the heat carrying capacity of a

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini-splits

2022-10-15 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
My shop is 40x60 with what I would estimate to be 16-18’ ceilings at the peak. It is insulated though. I would never except them to be able to fully cool it down to 75 or so in the heat of the summer or fully warm it but hopefully it would be worth the cost just to help it be tolerable. I do

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini-splits

2022-10-15 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes
On 2022-10-15 07:52, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: Don’t believe the GIS maps your property appraiser uses. They’re notoriously inaccurate and they will tell you that as well. I asked our county GIS people about this in AZ because GIS shows my house encroaching on the adjacent property,

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini-splits

2022-10-15 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Don’t believe the GIS maps your property appraiser uses. They’re notoriously inaccurate and they will tell you that as well. I asked our county GIS people about this in AZ because GIS shows my house encroaching on the adjacent property, and I’m sure it’s not. I’m still trying to find a

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini-splits

2022-10-15 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
That’s what I would do for the garage in FL if I was planning on being there longer. It’s not insulated, but if I could close it up, cool it off some and knock down the humidity it would make working in the garage far more pleasant. I’ve got an exterior wall with the distribution panel right

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini-splits

2022-10-15 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Good point - if you live in a temperate area it’s important to see what the unit’s efficient is rated for at a given temperature. The 12000 BTU unit I had installed in the casita on the back of the garage is rated down to 4F at 80%. It’s pretty rare to see temps that low in Flagstaff, and my

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini-splits

2022-10-14 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes
On 2022-10-14 18:23, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: We’ve got a half acre and plenty of room to spread out. I might finally end up with a garage with a lift! I've got two acres and no decent place to park cars off the driveway or build an extra garage. Getting ready to buy a third acre.

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini-splits

2022-10-14 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
I wonder if I could put a couple of them in the shop, or if it would be enough to at least take the edge off the temps when I’m out there working Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 14, 2022, at 7:32 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes > wrote: > > we put in 3 mini splits & 1 compressor about 10 years

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2022-10-14 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
we put in 3 mini splits & 1 compressor about 10 years ago. love them. they heat down to 32F. our church just put them in our rectory & they heat to 4F so we took out oil furnace. On Fri, Oct 14, 2022, 7:04 PM MG via Mercedes wrote: > Found this on Amazon. Don't know a thing about them. > >

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2022-10-14 Thread MG via Mercedes
Found this on Amazon. Don't know a thing about them.

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini-splits

2022-10-14 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
> I’m taking about reason for 410 being phased out. https://us-ac.com/usac-news/r410a-phasedown/ https://legacyac.com/r-410a-phase-out/ Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini-splits

2022-10-14 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Interesting, I'm thinking about one for our house, one for my parents and one for the northern estate. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 3:56 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: Just for grins I clicked on a link for “MRCOOL DIY” mini-splits yesterday, and

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini-splits

2022-10-14 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Hah! My bad. -D Sent from my iPad > On Oct 14, 2022, at 6:25 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > I’m taking about reason for 410 being phased out. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Oct 14, 2022, at 5:19 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Impending retirement,

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini-splits

2022-10-14 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
I’m taking about reason for 410 being phased out. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 14, 2022, at 5:19 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > wrote: > > Impending retirement, shrinking (physical) assets and moving equity into > more liquid forms. And getting away from what has become a bit of a hell

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini-splits

2022-10-14 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Impending retirement, shrinking (physical) assets and moving equity into more liquid forms. And getting away from what has become a bit of a hell hole. Tentative timeline is late next year, but that could change for any number of reasons. It’s still in the very beginning of the planning stages,

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini-splits

2022-10-14 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
I agree. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 14, 2022, at 4:37 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > >  >> >> I’m not quite ready to pull the trigger on one, but good to know there is an >> option directed at DIY installation that’s reasonably priced. > > > I probably would buy it now, even

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini-splits

2022-10-14 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Seriously? What is the reason for this? Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 14, 2022, at 4:44 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > >  >> >> phase out of R410a next year > > I should've said BEGINNING next year. It was originally slated to be phased > out January 1st, 2023. The festivities of

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini-splits

2022-10-14 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Good point. If I wasn't considering dumping the FL house in the next year or so I would definitely jump on one for the garage. It would be an easy install. -D > On Oct 14, 2022, at 5:49 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > >  >> >> phase out of R410a next year > > I should've said

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini-splits

2022-10-14 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
> phase out of R410a next year I should've said BEGINNING next year. It was originally slated to be phased out January 1st, 2023. The festivities of the last two years and nine months have altered that. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini-splits

2022-10-14 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
> I’m not quite ready to pull the trigger on one, but good to know there is an > option directed at DIY installation that’s reasonably priced. I probably would buy it now, even if install is two years away. Between inflation, supply chain issues, and the phase out of R410a next year, if you

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini-splits

2022-10-14 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 19:56:09 + "dan penoff.com via Mercedes" wrote: > Just for grins I clicked on a link for “MRCOOL DIY” mini-splits > yesterday, and after going to their website got directed to a number of > different retailers, one of which was Costco. I was just doing some > research on

[MBZ] OT - Mini-splits

2022-10-14 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Just for grins I clicked on a link for “MRCOOL DIY” mini-splits yesterday, and after going to their website got directed to a number of different retailers, one of which was Costco. I was just doing some research on a possible mini-split for the Flagstaff garage, which I was thinking might be a