[MBZ] Rust and E-brake cable is stuck on 2005 Mercedes-Benz e-class E 500 4MATIC Wagon 4D, $1, 800

2024-05-14 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
but might not be a bad deal as these are fairly rare and are worth quite a bit.  E-brake should come loose easy enough https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3712833368971129 -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.

Re: [MBZ] Rust not TOO bad -- 1968 Mercedes-Benz 250s gas,$8,500

2023-07-20 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
+ $20K in touch up costs and you have a restored vintage Mercedes, worth $20k in 10 years... On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 10:48 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Interior looks mostly nice, could be a rolling resto > > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/12750959133

[MBZ] Rust not TOO bad -- 1968 Mercedes-Benz 250s gas,$8,500

2023-07-20 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Interior looks mostly nice, could be a rolling resto https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1275095913366682 -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: ht

Re: [MBZ] Rust green/green 1973 Mercedes-Benz 400se Sedan 4D, $2, 500

2023-03-08 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Triple green. Someone needs this badly. If it runs and drives and stops it's a steal, assuming average corrosion... On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 10:12 AM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > That’s odd puh-tee-ner. Oddly inconsistent. > Virginia is quite a drive, Kaleb. > > AZBo

Re: [MBZ] Rust green/green 1973 Mercedes-Benz 400se Sedan 4D, $2, 500

2023-03-08 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
That’s odd puh-tee-ner. Oddly inconsistent. Virginia is quite a drive, Kaleb. AZBob Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 8, 2023, at 6:53 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Oh wow > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 8, 2023, at 8:34 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> I

Re: [MBZ] Rust green/green 1973 Mercedes-Benz 400se Sedan 4D, $2, 500

2023-03-08 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Oh wow Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 8, 2023, at 8:34 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > wrote: > > Interior looks pretty nice, other than patina the body looks OK > > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/883418196213536 > > -- > --FT > > > ___ > ht

[MBZ] Rust green/green 1973 Mercedes-Benz 400se Sedan 4D,$2,500

2023-03-08 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Interior looks pretty nice, other than patina the body looks OK https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/883418196213536 -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options

[MBZ] Rust, patina, whatever you want to call it. 1971 Mercedes-Benz 220d, $1, 234

2023-02-23 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
A fun beater until it collapses in a pile of iron oxide, although the seats look nice It has been driven longer distance than probably recommend. OM615 diesel engine, fires up everytime 4 speed manual https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1134115430587566 -- --FT

Re: [MBZ] Rust pics of the 108

2022-09-19 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
A car for Dmitri? Randy On 16/09/2022 2:47 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Yes, it’s that damn nice interior that makes the whole deal a shame. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 16, 2022, at 2:22 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Yet... to counter this, it is so clean inside th

Re: [MBZ] Rust pics of the 108

2022-09-16 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Yes, it’s that damn nice interior that makes the whole deal a shame. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 16, 2022, at 2:22 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > Yet... to counter this, it is so clean inside that it will be a visceral > pleasure every time he opens the door and slides beh

Re: [MBZ] Rust pics of the 108

2022-09-16 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Unlikely. On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 3:23 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > And when he slams the door shut (if it latches) and half of it falls off > in particles of rust. > > -D > > On Sep 16, 2022, at 3:21 PM, Andrew Strasfogel > wrote

Re: [MBZ] Rust pics of the 108

2022-09-16 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
And when he slams the door shut (if it latches) and half of it falls off in particles of rust. -D On Sep 16, 2022, at 3:21 PM, Andrew Strasfogel mailto:astrasfo...@gmail.com>> wrote: Yet... to counter this, it is so clean inside that it will be a visceral pleasure every time he opens the doo

Re: [MBZ] Rust pics of the 108

2022-09-16 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Yet... to counter this, it is so clean inside that it will be a visceral pleasure every time he opens the door and slides behind the wheel. On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 3:20 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > There are so many reasons why you should avoid this car. They’

Re: [MBZ] Rust pics of the 108

2022-09-16 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
There are so many reasons why you should avoid this car. They’re in every picture you posted. Even if the drivetrain was good, the rusted stuff would cause so much grief any time you had to work on it you would be patching stuff up left and right just to make it work. -D > On Sep 16, 2022, at

Re: [MBZ] Rust pics of the 108

2022-09-16 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
This seems like maybe it’s worth $2k, get it running and either flip it to somebody else for a little profit, or just drive it until it falls apart. I really would like to get a 4.5 at some point. I have flirted with 108s over the years, have been close to deals on decent ones, and had several a

Re: [MBZ] Rust pics of the 108

2022-09-16 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
He should drive it around town as a moving billboard for his classic car business. On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 2:55 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > There is so much work there it would cost far beyond the restored value to > fix all that rust. Things like door bottoms

Re: [MBZ] Rust pics of the 108

2022-09-16 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
There is so much work there it would cost far beyond the restored value to fix all that rust. Things like door bottoms, for example, would have to be fabricated. Not only that, when rust is that extensive, the potential for getting it all and cleaning up the existing metal is near impossible. T

Re: [MBZ] Rust pics of the 108

2022-09-16 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Yeah, not all that great. This is the car you drive around for a couple years while saving money to send it to the body shop. On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 2:44 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Got some out of the seller. Seems a lot worse than I was hopping for. > > >

Re: [MBZ] Rust was:Re: W124 rear subframe

2019-12-22 Thread Clay Monroe via Mercedes
Dry side and a wet side. The local SEA DOT will try to get trucks out to spray deicer on the main roads if they have a few days warning. Mild saline solution of some sort that keeps mostly exposed bridge deck from icing over if temps drop to 26f. Wet side tends to warm and wash away the snow

[MBZ] Rust was:Re: W124 rear subframe

2019-12-22 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
That sucks. I thought that parts of WA are considered desert. Rick   Original Message   From: jim.cathey...@gmail.com Sent: December 22, 2019 11:57 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: rickkno...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: W124 rear subframe R&R pictures > Pacific Northwest

Re: [MBZ] Rust free

2019-04-05 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
99k miles... Unlikely. On Thu, Apr 4, 2019, 11:20 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > You should get that and flip it to the FB morons > > --FT > Sent from iPhone > > > On Apr 4, 2019, at 10:22 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >

Re: [MBZ] Rust free

2019-04-04 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
You should get that and flip it to the FB morons --FT Sent from iPhone > On Apr 4, 2019, at 10:22 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > 1978 MERCEDES 300D > > https://wichita.craigslist.org/cto/d/wichita-1978-mercedes-300d/6858309572.html > > > Sent from my iPhone > > ___

[MBZ] Rust free

2019-04-04 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
1978 MERCEDES 300D https://wichita.craigslist.org/cto/d/wichita-1978-mercedes-300d/6858309572.html Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http

Re: [MBZ] Rust Bucket For Mitch or Michael

2018-10-13 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
15 years ago we had a list member about 30 miles south of there. Can't remember his name though. Sounds like they drove it into the ground until they didn't think it was worthwhile to replace a fuel line. Mitch. > On October 13, 2018 at 8:48 AM Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > > > ht

[MBZ] Rust Bucket For Mitch or Michael

2018-10-13 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1984-Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300SD/142972763361 Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mer

Re: [MBZ] rust free new york 300td ac blows ice cold all winter

2015-02-22 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
What'd you pay for it? On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 9:11 PM, Rick Hawkins Java wrote: > it's not all that nice, but since you lust after the 1985 ones so you need > to buy it > > the engine seems to run well considering it was out of fuel > > we added a gal of diesel and i pumped the primer but didn'

[MBZ] rust free new york 300td ac blows ice cold all winter

2015-02-22 Thread Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes
it's not all that nice, but since you lust after the 1985 ones so you need to buy it the engine seems to run well considering it was out of fuel we added a gal of diesel and i pumped the primer but didn't bleed it and we got it started with a decent battery (ours) at about 34 F it seemed smoot

Re: [MBZ] Rust repair for good health

2014-10-09 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I usually find that the pain doesn't kick in until the SECOND day after I insult my body by doing manual labor or playing squash. On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 4:22 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > The lesson here? If you don't WEAR our face SHIELD, your BACK will hurt, a > rotator cuff WILL hurt, and

Re: [MBZ] Rust repair for good health

2014-10-09 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
The lesson here? If you don't WEAR our face SHIELD, your BACK will hurt, a rotator cuff WILL hurt, and the burns will hurt WORSE. On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > This is only sort of off topic... > > . > Fortunately since last year I bou

[MBZ] Rust repair for good health

2014-10-09 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
This is only sort of off topic... My Jetta has rusty rockers, last year I welded a bunch of new metal from old computers (thicker and easier to weld than microwave ovens) into the driver's side. That seems to be holding up decently well while the passenger side is now really bad. I finally got

[MBZ] Rust in peace: Haunting pictures of the Belgian 'car graveyard'

2013-01-03 Thread Rich Thomas
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2256470/Haunting-pictures-Belgian-car-graveyard-US-soldiers-hid-beautiful-vintage-motors-WWII.html#ixzz2GvnxapSS --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http:

Re: [MBZ] Rust & analysis/correct heading and spelling

2012-10-27 Thread Rick Knoble
On Oct 27, 2012, at 9:11 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: > Would you like to hear the history of this car, where it's been and what it > has done in the last 28 years? Hardly a garage queen up until the last few > years. Yes. I would. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___

Re: [MBZ] Rust & analysis/correct heading and spelling

2012-10-27 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Why was the schlumpf museum seized? Sent from my iPhone On Oct 27, 2012, at 10:11 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...Oxidation never sleeps. Unless you've done lab analysis periodically, I don't see how you could have any confidence in that oil. Max Dillon.. I take your point but I've already

[MBZ] Rust & analysis/correct heading and spelling

2012-10-27 Thread RELNGSON
> ...Oxidation never sleeps.  Unless you've done lab analysis periodically, > I don't see how you could have any confidence in that oil. > > Max Dillon.. > > I take your point but I've already described the storage conditions and for this car oil anaylsis would be a waste of money. Have you ev

[MBZ] Rust repair while waiting for parts

2012-09-14 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
While waiting for the glow plugs and primer pump to arrive I decided to tackle some relatively minor rust repair. The first involved cutting the rust out of the side of the hood on the passenger side. It was spot welded to an inner support. I drilled out the spot welds, then cut it away from th

Re: [MBZ] Rust

2011-11-23 Thread Gerry Archer
Might be interesting to add a dab of liquid soap to the mixture. Liquid soap (sodium lauryl sulphate) is an emulsifier which might keep the oil in suspension. http://pharmacy.wilkes.edu/kibbeweb/lab6.html .or Tween 80 (not cheap) http://www.bio-world.com/productinfo/4_847_64_486/125960/T

Re: [MBZ] Rust

2011-11-23 Thread Randy Bennell
On 23/11/2011 1:10 PM, OK Don wrote: Does the acetone actually mix with the ATF? Mine separates instantly with M1 ATF -- haven't bought any ordinary ATF to try it with. That having been said, if I shake it vigorously, and apply immediately, it seems to work. On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Mic

Re: [MBZ] Rust

2011-11-23 Thread WILTON
23, 2011 1:57 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rust On Wednesday, November 23, 2011 11:27 AM, "Randy Bennell" wrote: I think that the after market rustproofing is better than it once was. I don't know as though the tar like stuff they spray on the bottom of the car is any better as it tends

Re: [MBZ] Rust

2011-11-23 Thread OK Don
Does the acetone actually mix with the ATF? Mine separates instantly with M1 ATF -- haven't bought any ordinary ATF to try it with. That having been said, if I shake it vigorously, and apply immediately, it seems to work. On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Michael Canfield wrote: > Acetone mixed w

Re: [MBZ] Rust

2011-11-23 Thread Allan Streib
On Wednesday, November 23, 2011 11:27 AM, "Randy Bennell" wrote: > I think that the after market rustproofing is better than it once was. > I don't know as though the tar like stuff they spray on the bottom of > the car is any better as it tends to fall off and need to be repaired > but I think

Re: [MBZ] Rust

2011-11-23 Thread WILTON
And I won't buy one from Florida or farther north than VA. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Randy Bennell" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 12:30 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rust In Manitoba, it is considered too cold during mu

Re: [MBZ] Rust

2011-11-23 Thread Dieselhead
I am not disagreeing with that. The mopar stuff eats rust. there is a difference. Different tools for different problems. With the dogde struts, I could turn the nut, but the rust on the 1" or so of bolt sticking through the nut made it so tough that the bolt would break before the nut came

Re: [MBZ] Rust

2011-11-23 Thread WILTON
Ziebart in Sault Ste. Marie, ON, did a '71 Chrysler wagon for me in late '71. 'Sold it in sou. Cal. in '78 still like new. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Randy Bennell" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 12

Re: [MBZ] Rust

2011-11-23 Thread Randy Bennell
In Manitoba, it is considered too cold during much of the winter for salt to help much on the highways. Nevertheless, the City of Winnipeg tends to salt intersections and as a result we get a bit of a regular salt bath if the weather permits - IE - if it warms up a bit and then snows a bit. I

Re: [MBZ] Rust

2011-11-23 Thread Randy Bennell
I think that the after market rustproofing is better than it once was. I don't know as though the tar like stuff they spray on the bottom of the car is any better as it tends to fall off and need to be repaired but I think that the waxy stuff they spray into the doors and body cavities is maybe

Re: [MBZ] Rust

2011-11-23 Thread Curt Raymond
me, starts with an R. -Curt Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 06:28:17 -0800 (PST) From: Dimitri Seretakis To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rust Message-ID: <1322058497.91191.yext-apple-iph...@web113207.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'm cleanin

Re: [MBZ] Rust

2011-11-23 Thread Michael Canfield
Acetone mixed with atf is the best penetrant. Mike On Nov 23, 2011 10:31 AM, "Gerry Archer" wrote: > Autozone has "Rust Eater" which probably isn't as good as Mopar > but it does dissolve rust. Used it and a half dozen other products > on a tapered part that was stuck tight. None unstuck it by

Re: [MBZ] Rust

2011-11-23 Thread Gerry Archer
Autozone has "Rust Eater" which probably isn't as good as Mopar but it does dissolve rust. Used it and a half dozen other products on a tapered part that was stuck tight. None unstuck it by normal means but a 20 lb sledge finally did. Gerry From: "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> from your fri

Re: [MBZ] Rust

2011-11-23 Thread Dieselhead
from your friendly local Dogde stealership parts counter. Ask for Mopar P/N 04318039AB, That is the old number, but they should be able to look up the new one. There is a photo of it here: http://www.mopar.ca/en/accessories/inspectandreplaceexhaustsystemcomponents.php There is also a pictur

Re: [MBZ] Rust

2011-11-23 Thread Jim Cathey
Well, there's always "English undercoating." They salt here too, now, the b@$#@&ds. The claim is that the EPA made them do it. They used to use sand, but then there was too much particulate matter in the air (dust) in the Spring. -- Jim ___ http://www.oki

Re: [MBZ] Rust

2011-11-23 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Tell me more about this stuff. Where do you get it? Sent from my iPhone On Nov 23, 2011, at 9:23 AM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: Use the mopar rust eater/penetrating oil with graphite. I just did the struts on a 12 yr old dodge and the bolts were rusted tight, with way more thread t

Re: [MBZ] Rust

2011-11-23 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
I'm cleaning up some rust around the trim clip holes on front fender of my 240D. One of them perforated and I had to weld the area closed. Naval jelly and POR-15 are my friends here. I'm doing what I can before the salt bath begins. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 23, 2011, at 8:25 AM, Michael Canfi

Re: [MBZ] Rust

2011-11-23 Thread Dieselhead
Use the mopar rust eater/penetrating oil with graphite. I just did the struts on a 12 yr old dodge and the bolts were rusted tight, with way more thread through the nut than necessary. The rust eater ate the rust and I was able to get everything apart. going back together, most of the fits we

Re: [MBZ] Rust

2011-11-23 Thread Michael Canfield
Sure does. My 83 has yet to see an Upstate winter. I really hate to even drive it this winter but I currently have no choice. The brine they are putting on the roads around here is terrible. I live right by Watkins Glen, NY, home to Cargill, makers of the brine, so they test formulas on local r

Re: [MBZ] Rust

2011-11-22 Thread Walt Zarnoch
Yeah, NY kills cars... :( Walt On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 11:51 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > The second link has amounts applied per mile  And the WINNERS are: > > NY > MA > VT > NH > > with honorable mention to: > MI > > IL is shown as a piker at 6.6, however it is a long state, an

Re: [MBZ] Rust

2011-11-22 Thread Dieselhead
The second link has amounts applied per mile And the WINNERS are: NY MA VT NH with honorable mention to: MI IL is shown as a piker at 6.6, however it is a long state, and the southern half is radiacally different than the Chicago area. Northern IL is probably at 12, and chicagoland is probab

Re: [MBZ] rust

2011-11-22 Thread RELNGSON
> ...Undercoating/rustproofing today is done before the car is fully > assembled > MB is paying a lot more attention to corrosion in the newest cars and the all-stainless steel dual exhaust system on my 2008 is just one example. I think they may be a bit late to the party since Porsche has

Re: [MBZ] Rust

2011-11-22 Thread Craig
On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 15:59:57 -0800 (PST) Dimitri Seretakis wrote: > I hate road salt.  Is it true that they dont use it in Colorado? No. When we lived there the sand that the highway trucks put on the roads was mixed with 10% salt. See http://onlinepubs.trb.org/onlinepubs/sr/sr235/017-030.pdf

Re: [MBZ] Rust

2011-11-22 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Yes I noticed the brine for the first time last winter. It really made me mad when they brined the roads three weeks before the first snowfall. Salt exposure for nothing. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 22, 2011, at 10:12 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: I'm in a state that gets snow and

Re: [MBZ] Rust

2011-11-22 Thread Dieselhead
I'm in a state that gets snow and ice in the winter, consequently salt is used on the roads. I've never owned a car that didn't rust to some extent (and I'll count the cars my parents owned since I'm familiar with them). Japanese, American, German... they all rust. Best experience was a '91

Re: [MBZ] Rust

2011-11-22 Thread Dieselhead
it in Colorado? From: Allan Streib To: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 6:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rust I'm in a state that gets snow and ice in the winter, consequently salt is used on the roads. I've never owned a car that didn't rust to some exte

Re: [MBZ] Rust

2011-11-22 Thread LWB250
garage kept cars. Dan From: Allan Streib To: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 8:29 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rust On Wednesday, November 23, 2011 1:15 AM, "Larry T" wrote: > I think soimething happend around the mid-90s wit

Re: [MBZ] Rust

2011-11-22 Thread LWB250
Deeply involved in the development and marketing of the 190, that is. Dan From: LWB250 To: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 9:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rust I worked for a guy whose wife was deeply involved in the development and

Re: [MBZ] Rust

2011-11-22 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Audis and BMWs of the same vintage do not have rust problems. Wouldn't those European regulations have effected them as well? Sent from my iPhone On Nov 22, 2011, at 8:29 PM, "Allan Streib" wrote: On Wednesday, November 23, 2011 1:15 AM, "Larry T" wrote: I think soimething happend around th

Re: [MBZ] Rust

2011-11-22 Thread Mountain Man
Dimitri wrote: > I hate road salt.  Is it true that they dont use it in Colorado? It was true 20 years ago when we lived there. As I understand, they coat the sand these days - maybe they did 20 years ago too, I don't know. The issue explained to me was the annual waterfall of 13" which causes a r

Re: [MBZ] Rust

2011-11-22 Thread LWB250
more than one occasion that internally the 190 was considered a failure. Nothing new here Dan From: Allan Streib To: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 8:29 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rust On Wednesday, November 23, 2011 1:15 AM

Re: [MBZ] Rust

2011-11-22 Thread Allan Streib
On Wednesday, November 23, 2011 1:15 AM, "Larry T" wrote: > I think soimething happend around the mid-90s with MB QC - not sure > what but things went downhill. European regulations on paint, required a change to a water-based paint with less VOC emissions, took a few years to sort it out. Sam

Re: [MBZ] Rust

2011-11-22 Thread Larry T
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 7:03:39 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rust  My 99 W210 has a rust spot in the wheel fender. And I do wash the wheel well after every salt bath. Vehicle was brand new when we acquired it and had never left the snow belt area (NJ).  Car is running fine and good. K.S. On

Re: [MBZ] Rust

2011-11-22 Thread Allan Streib
Undercoating/rustproofing today is done before the car is fully assembled, the chassis and body are dipped in corrosion inhibitors. Aftermarket undercoating, dealer "paint protection", and the like is largely a scam, basically adds nothing. Maybe in the days when cars got no anticorrosion trea

Re: [MBZ] Rust

2011-11-22 Thread clay monroe
I think there may be some factory work done to prep the cars for a certain market, if they know the batch will be going to a cold or rust prone place. Sort of like Kalifornia cars are not the same as real benz. Gump was sold in IL, and was outfitted with cold weather gear that would not have b

Re: [MBZ] Rust

2011-11-22 Thread hursley
My 99 W210 has a rust spot in the wheel fender. And I do wash the wheel well after every salt bath. Vehicle was brand new when we acquired it and had never left the snow belt area (NJ). Car is running fine and good. K.S. On 11/22/11, Randy Bennell wrote: Does Mercedes sell the same car thro

Re: [MBZ] Rust

2011-11-22 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
I hate road salt.  Is it true that they dont use it in Colorado? From: Allan Streib To: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 6:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rust I'm in a state that gets snow and ice in the winter, consequently sa

Re: [MBZ] Rust

2011-11-22 Thread Allan Streib
I'm in a state that gets snow and ice in the winter, consequently salt is used on the roads. I've never owned a car that didn't rust to some extent (and I'll count the cars my parents owned since I'm familiar with them). Japanese, American, German... they all rust. Best experience was a '91 V

Re: [MBZ] Rust

2011-11-22 Thread Randy Bennell
Does Mercedes sell the same car throughout the USA? I ask because my wife's Honda Accord came from Forida. There was essentially no undercoating on the car when we got it one year old. We had it undercoated and rust proofed here in order to try to preserve it. I went to the local Honda dealer

[MBZ] Rust

2011-11-22 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
  I posted this on the MBCA forum to illustrate my disatisfaction with the rust situation on newer MBs.   http://www.mbca.org/forum/2011-11-22/unacceptable-mercedes-rust ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts

Re: [MBZ] Rust, was Parts quality

2010-12-03 Thread R A Bennell
om> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 2:52 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rust, was Parts quality On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Craig wrote: The talc idea sounds pretty good. It's nice because it goes on dry, doesn't damage paint or chrome if you ar

Re: [MBZ] Rust, was Parts quality

2010-12-03 Thread E M
300E On 3 December 2010 15:03, WILTON wrote: > And smells nice. > > Wilton > > - Original Message - From: "Alex Chamberlain" < > apchamberl...@gmail.com> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 2:52 PM > Subje

Re: [MBZ] Rust, was Parts quality

2010-12-03 Thread Peter T. Arnold
Silicone spay works better and no mess or smell. -Pete- On 12/3/2010 1:44 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Spray all the gaskets with WD40 and wipe to ensure good coverage. That's one thing I found with the 300E, over our previous American cars, that had much looser door and trunk fittings. Even with

Re: [MBZ] Rust, was Parts quality

2010-12-03 Thread Walt Zarnoch
n the wife's '79 300TD) with spraying a key > with 100% silicone spray and working it in the lock. > > Greg > > -Original Message- > From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] > On Behalf Of Curt Raymond > Sent: Friday, December

Re: [MBZ] Rust, was Parts quality

2010-12-03 Thread Greg Fiorentino
3, 2010 10:15 AM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rust, was Parts quality I've noticed that on my 201s as well although I've never had to pour water on. On the 123s I've seen an annoying tendency for the locks to freeze. I generally keep a wind proof lighter (the one like a small

Re: [MBZ] Rust, was Parts quality

2010-12-03 Thread WILTON
And smells nice. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Alex Chamberlain" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 2:52 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rust, was Parts quality On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Craig wrote: The talc idea sounds pret

Re: [MBZ] Rust, was Parts quality

2010-12-03 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Craig wrote: > The talc idea sounds pretty good. It's nice because it goes on dry, doesn't damage paint or chrome if you are messy with it, and as Ed noted, doesn't do any harm if it gets on your clothes. Alex ___ http://www.o

Re: [MBZ] Rust, was Parts quality

2010-12-03 Thread E M
I think my old porsche manual recommends talc on the door gaskets. Ed 300E On 3 December 2010 14:42, Craig wrote: > On Fri, 3 Dec 2010 12:44:49 -0600 Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Spray all the gaskets with WD40 and wipe to ensure good coverage. > > But don't you want to keep WD

Re: [MBZ] Rust, was Parts quality

2010-12-03 Thread Walt Zarnoch
Hard car wax/candle wax works as well, and is a bit less messy. Walt On Dec 3, 2010 2:43 PM, "Craig" wrote: > On Fri, 3 Dec 2010 12:44:49 -0600 Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Spray all the gaskets with WD40 and wipe to ensure good coverage. > > But don't you want to keep WD40 away f

Re: [MBZ] Rust, was Parts quality

2010-12-03 Thread Craig
On Fri, 3 Dec 2010 12:44:49 -0600 Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > Spray all the gaskets with WD40 and wipe to ensure good coverage. But don't you want to keep WD40 away from painted surfaces? How about glycerine? The talc idea sounds pretty good. Craig _

Re: [MBZ] Rust, was Parts quality

2010-12-03 Thread E M
I've used talc on rubber door gaskets too. Works quite well. Bit more forgiving on the winter jackets too. ;-) Ed 300E On 3 December 2010 13:55, Alex Chamberlain wrote: > On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Spray all the gaskets with WD40 and wipe to e

Re: [MBZ] Rust, was Parts quality

2010-12-03 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > Spray all the gaskets with WD40 and wipe to ensure good coverage. > Talcum powder works well too. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To searc

Re: [MBZ] Rust, was Parts quality

2010-12-03 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Allan Streib wrote: > Be careful hitting cold glass with hot water.  I've cracked a headlight doing > that. > I've cracked a windshield doing that (on my old SLC)! That's a costly mistake to learn from... Alex ___ http://www

Re: [MBZ] Rust, was Parts quality

2010-12-03 Thread Dieselhead
Spray all the gaskets with WD40 and wipe to ensure good coverage. That's one thing I found with the 300E, over our previous American cars, that had much looser door and trunk fittings. Even with a half cm of frozen ice, the American stuff would open right up. The Benz is a bear to get into!

Re: [MBZ] Rust, was Parts quality

2010-12-03 Thread Curt Raymond
tried all kinds of magic substances (including graphite and other lock gunk) but nothing seems to help. These days I don't lock the doors much so I don't worry... -Curt Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 10:41:22 -0500 From: E M To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rust, was Parts qu

Re: [MBZ] Rust, was Parts quality

2010-12-03 Thread Allan Streib
Be careful hitting cold glass with hot water. I've cracked a headlight doing that. Allan On Fri, 03 Dec 2010 10:25 -0500, "Peter T. Arnold" wrote: > OK, I flush car off with hot water. > > Than I wait till Easter for it to thaw. > > > > On 12/3/2010 10:01 AM, theprofil...@dwx.com wrote: >

Re: [MBZ] Rust, was Parts quality

2010-12-03 Thread E M
That's one thing I found with the 300E, over our previous American cars, that had much looser door and trunk fittings. Even with a half cm of frozen ice, the American stuff would open right up. The Benz is a bear to get into! I've had to pour hot water on the Benz a few times, just to get into i

Re: [MBZ] Rust, was Parts quality

2010-12-03 Thread Peter T. Arnold
OK, I flush car off with hot water. Than I wait till Easter for it to thaw. On 12/3/2010 10:01 AM, theprofil...@dwx.com wrote: I also flushed the car after each snowstorm with a lot of hot water from a high-pressure spray nozzle on a garden hose--enough to melt all the slush off and ri

[MBZ] Rust, was Parts quality

2010-12-03 Thread theprofil...@dwx.com
Best thing I've found for rust so far is Marine Penetrol. It is intended for use in rustproofing ballast tanks on ship, will penetrate heavy scale, drive out moisture, and can be coated with anything you like. It's also cheap, and better than the POR I used to use. Turns metal black just like P

Re: [MBZ] Rust removal

2009-11-09 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
From: Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rust removal To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 9:42 AM Is it kind to plastic key heads on MB keys?  The keys to my new '95 are rusty, I suspect from being in sweaty pockets and

Re: [MBZ] Rust removal

2009-11-09 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
cedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dimitri Seretakis Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 1:44 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rust removal Chemical composition no, but it is kind to chrome.  Go to garagejournal.com and do a search for evaporust on their forum.  --- On Sun, 11

Re: [MBZ] Rust removal

2009-11-08 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Chemical composition no, but it is kind to chrome.  Go to garagejournal.com and do a search for evaporust on their forum.  --- On Sun, 11/8/09, Rich Thomas wrote: From: Rich Thomas Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rust removal To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 10

Re: [MBZ] Rust removal

2009-11-08 Thread Rich Thomas
Do you know what that stuff is? --R Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Evaporust available at harbor freight. It is what tool collectors use. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 8, 2009, at 3:15 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: Somehow or other my truck toolbox got some water in it, mostly in the top tray, which rus

Re: [MBZ] Rust removal

2009-11-08 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Evaporust available at harbor freight. It is what tool collectors use. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 8, 2009, at 3:15 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: Somehow or other my truck toolbox got some water in it, mostly in the top tray, which rusted some of the tools (a few quite a bit, most not a lot) as they

Re: [MBZ] Rust removal

2009-11-08 Thread Jim Cathey
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/andyspatch/rust.htm Anyone suggest a better method? I've had good luck with it. I use a battery charger, and washing soda. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

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