Re: [MBZ] OT - pickem-up trucks

2013-02-02 Thread Curt Raymond
Wha? Having not done any research at all I'd assumed you'd be looking for $5-10k... I'd do $2k for sure! -Curt Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 20:43:15 -0600 From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - pickem-up trucks Message-ID: CANZcij

Re: [MBZ] OT - pickem-up trucks

2013-02-01 Thread OK Don
Update -- Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Cash buyer? You will get a better deal financing, that is where dealers make money Nothing to stop you from paying it off in a month or so. Or you can negotiate a financing deal then switch to cash after you have the price set. Mitch. After

Re: [MBZ] OT - pickem-up trucks

2013-02-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
What dealer are you messing with? Yes I will probably buy it let me know what you get offered but would have to be soon before I buy something else Sent from my iPhone On Feb 1, 2013, at 8:43 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Update -- Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Cash buyer? You will get

Re: [MBZ] OT - pickem-up trucks

2013-01-26 Thread WILTON
, maybe I can play, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 11:12 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - pickem-up trucks Bank or loan originator. Kick back to finance, because

Re: [MBZ] OT - pickem-up trucks

2013-01-25 Thread Fmiser
OK Don wrote: We are considering replacing the van with a pickup, as we're mostly using it with the seats out to haul stuff, not people these days. Why not a trailer? Cheaper to purchase, cheaper to own, no dragging empty cargo capacity all the rest of the time. You could probably spend

Re: [MBZ] OT - pickem-up trucks

2013-01-25 Thread Jim Cathey
I want a new pickup with warranty, etc... [no] ... extra $7000+ for Diesel Are you planning to drive it to death, or eventually resell it? From what I've seen on the Dodge, you make back nearly the entire front-end cost difference on the back end. Easy enough to check used prices to see.

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2013-01-25 Thread Dieselhead
Second the motion. I haul all kinds of stuff with my van and trailer. buy a 10' trailer and Air Lift (Brand) air bags for the rear of the van. More versatile that way, and you don't have to shovel snow out of the back of the van. You can even get a small dump trailer if you want. OK

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2013-01-25 Thread Mitch Haley
OK Don wrote: New effecient V6, or old thirsty V8 engine? You going to put many miles on it? That 25mpg hwy Ram 1500 has me impressed. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] OT - pickem-up trucks

2013-01-25 Thread Curt Raymond
I think you'll find that even the V8s these days are pretty efficient. We talking 4wd? I probably wouldn't bother with a v6. Comparing just a Ford F150 2wd you're looking at 18mpg for the v8 vs 22mpg for the v6. For 4 mpg I'm going big, I'll be happier when I've full bedload. I've found my

Re: [MBZ] OT - pickem-up trucks

2013-01-25 Thread Curt Raymond
at the tailgate. -Curt Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 23:36:16 -0600 From: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - pickem-up trucks Message-ID: bay403-eas5587b24af5e699adf3b3a4dd...@phx.gbl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

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2013-01-25 Thread Dieselhead
I think you'll find that even the V8s these days are pretty efficient. We talking 4wd? I probably wouldn't bother with a v6. Comparing just a Ford F150 2wd you're looking at 18mpg for the v8 vs 22mpg for the v6. For 4 mpg I'm going big, I'll be happier when I've full bedload. I've found my

Re: [MBZ] OT - pickem-up trucks

2013-01-25 Thread WILTON
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 3:40 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - pickem-up trucks OK Don wrote: We are considering replacing the van with a pickup, as we're mostly using it with the seats out to haul stuff, not people these days. Why not a trailer

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2013-01-25 Thread OK Don
The van needs more work than I'm willing to put in it. If we get 4x4, I'll probably sell/trade the ML as well, getting us down to two vehicles. On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 2:40 AM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: OK Don wrote: We are considering replacing the van with a pickup, as we're mostly

Re: [MBZ] OT - pickem-up trucks

2013-01-25 Thread OK Don
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 7:14 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: I want a new pickup with warranty, etc... [no] ... extra $7000+ for Diesel Are you planning to drive it to death, or eventually resell it? From what I've seen on the Dodge, you make back nearly the entire front-end

Re: [MBZ] OT - pickem-up trucks

2013-01-25 Thread OK Don
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: OK Don wrote: New effecient V6, or old thirsty V8 engine? You going to put many miles on it? That 25mpg hwy Ram 1500 has me impressed. Mitch. Only in the long term - the Passat will be the daily driver. We plan to

Re: [MBZ] OT - pickem-up trucks

2013-01-25 Thread Randy Bennell
I think the crew cab trucks are the best invention since sliced bread. I bought my 2002 F150 Supercrew - 4 wheel drive - Lariat trim - 5.4 V8 etc. when it was about 5 years old and had about 90K miles on it. It is now 10 years old and has about 174K miles on it. I have done very little that

Re: [MBZ] OT - pickem-up trucks

2013-01-25 Thread Greg Fiorentino
I concur with the other responders on the 3/4 over 1/2. If you will be hauling a lot of stuff, then 3/4 is the right choice.IMO the Dodge advantage is with their diesel engines. I favor Ford over GM, I think their trucks generally are better engineered and built. My trucks have mostly been

Re: [MBZ] OT - pickem-up trucks

2013-01-25 Thread Brian Toscano
The easiest trucks to sell are probably V8 crew cab. For hauling anything of significance, get the 3/4 ton. Trailers are great too. And if you don't need the trailer very often, you can rent from U-Haul etc when you need it so it doesn't clutter up the yard. I would say your choice should

Re: [MBZ] OT - pickem-up trucks

2013-01-25 Thread OK Don
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.netwrote: I concur with the other responders on the 3/4 over 1/2. If you will be hauling a lot of stuff, then 3/4 is the right choice.IMO the Dodge advantage is with their diesel engines. I favor Ford over GM, I think

Re: [MBZ] OT - pickem-up trucks

2013-01-25 Thread Benz Hogs
Good suggestion. Buy a good 5x8 trailer w/brakes and build sides for hauling loose items, dirt, gravel, ham antennas, etc. Purchase (or use) a hitch with your ML. Way better fuel econ and comfort than a truck. Not that I'm biased toward the ML :) My $0.02 on brands. Ford = Fix or Repair

Re: [MBZ] OT - pickem-up trucks

2013-01-25 Thread Curt Raymond
to the current plastic Dakota. -Curt Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 10:40:00 -0600 From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - pickem-up trucks Message-ID: canzcij_6fa+unjwmcaivcgh29tbwedgpa7mgha2j3yayzsl...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain

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2013-01-25 Thread David Kristin Gilmore
At 11:36 AM 1/25/2013, OK Don wrote: (snip) I forgot to mention that I want 4 wheel drive. Although we haven't received much ice/snow the last two years, the red dirt road to our house does get slippery when wet. The ML is really nice with all-wheel

Re: [MBZ] OT - pickem-up trucks

2013-01-25 Thread Curt Raymond
2013 13:47:08 -0600 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - pickem-up trucks Message-ID: 5102e13c.2000...@bennell.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I think the crew cab trucks are the best

Re: [MBZ] OT - pickem-up trucks

2013-01-25 Thread Curt Raymond
...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - pickem-up trucks Message-ID: cacncphkfrzg2yfypxby1ut93wzkvcrqt71ypnd0xe1w0tj9...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 The easiest trucks to sell are probably V8 crew cab. For hauling

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2013-01-25 Thread OK Don
The ML averages 21mpg. I got 25 once with a 40-50mph tailwind over 200+ miles, but that was only once. A pickup is going to get about the same. I have a small trailer now (converted small boat trailer) that I built when my only car was the MGA. I'll probably install an external fuel tank in the

Re: [MBZ] OT - pickem-up trucks

2013-01-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Well when you get ready to do that I might be interested Sent from my iPhone On Jan 25, 2013, at 10:26 AM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: The van needs more work than I'm willing to put in it. If we get 4x4, I'll probably sell/trade the ML as well, getting us down to two vehicles. On Fri,

Re: [MBZ] OT - pickem-up trucks

2013-01-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Most of them are regular 4wd simple to use, either push a button or turn a knob. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 25, 2013, at 10:36 AM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 7:14 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: I want a new pickup with warranty, etc... [no] ...

Re: [MBZ] OT - pickem-up trucks

2013-01-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
1/2 Ton is for people who like the look of a truck but are really just a grocery getter. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 25, 2013, at 2:02 PM, Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net wrote: I concur with the other responders on the 3/4 over 1/2. If you will be hauling a lot of stuff, then 3/4 is

Re: [MBZ] OT - pickem-up trucks

2013-01-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Cash buyer? You will get a better deal financing, that is where dealers make money Sent from my iPhone On Jan 25, 2013, at 5:09 PM, David Kristin Gilmore dandkgilm...@frontier.com wrote: At 11:36 AM 1/25/2013, OK Don wrote: (snip) I forgot to

Re: [MBZ] OT - pickem-up trucks

2013-01-25 Thread Craig
On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 19:17:43 -0600 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Cash buyer? You will get a better deal financing, that is where dealers make money Do the car loans have a prepayment penalty? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and

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2013-01-25 Thread Jim Cathey
Cash buyer? You will get a better deal financing, that is where dealers make money Wanna run that math by me? If the dealer's making money, who's he getting it from if not me? Cash is King. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

Re: [MBZ] OT - pickem-up trucks

2013-01-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
No not usually Sent from my iPhone On Jan 25, 2013, at 7:51 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 19:17:43 -0600 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Cash buyer? You will get a better deal financing, that is where dealers make money Do the car loans have a

Re: [MBZ] OT - pickem-up trucks

2013-01-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Cash is not king at a car dealership. They make money by hanging the paper, that is getting the deal bought by a lender. Depending on the deal they will get about 1-3k from the lender Sent from my iPhone On Jan 25, 2013, at 8:00 PM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Cash buyer? You

Re: [MBZ] OT - pickem-up trucks

2013-01-25 Thread Curt Raymond
: [MBZ] OT - pickem-up trucks Message-ID: CANZcij90vEN=89owu+5_g2vtxyz6y8ladauun9fsgux33fz...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 The ML averages 21mpg. I got 25 once with a 40-50mph tailwind over 200+ miles, but that was only once. A pickup is going to get about the same. I

Re: [MBZ] OT - pickem-up trucks

2013-01-25 Thread Dieselhead
The easiest trucks to sell are probably V8 crew cab. For hauling anything of significance, get the 3/4 ton. Trailers are great too. And if you don't need the trailer very often, you can rent from U-Haul etc when you need it so it doesn't clutter up the yard. I would say your choice should

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2013-01-25 Thread OK Don
Yes, it's premium only, but does have computers running everything, so you might get away with lower octane fuel. However, the price difference isn't really that much - so I don't sweat it. I always figured that the low range gearing was for when you needed to back out! I think the towing

Re: [MBZ] OT - pickem-up trucks

2013-01-25 Thread Fmiser
Randy Bennell wrote: I think the crew cab trucks are the best invention since sliced bread. Curt Raymond wrote: Ugh, hard to park Heh. Maybe - if you live out there on the crowded east coast. Come out to the mid-west where there is elbow room! And if you insist on pulling forwards

Re: [MBZ] OT - pickem-up trucks

2013-01-25 Thread Jim Cathey
Cash is not king at a car dealership. They make money by hanging the paper, that is getting the deal bought by a lender. Depending on the deal they will get about 1-3k from the lender So you're saying that they're more inclined to make a deal where they make more money, at your expense,

Re: [MBZ] OT - pickem-up trucks

2013-01-25 Thread Dieselhead
Cash buyer? You will get a better deal financing, that is where dealers make money Wanna run that math by me? If the dealer's making money, who's he getting it from if not me? Cash is King. -- Jim kickbacks/commissions for selling the loan ___

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2013-01-25 Thread Mitch Haley
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Cash buyer? You will get a better deal financing, that is where dealers make money Nothing to stop you from paying it off in a month or so. Or you can negotiate a financing deal then switch to cash after you have the price set. But I'm not at all eager to let some

Re: [MBZ] OT - pickem-up trucks

2013-01-25 Thread Fmiser
OK Don wrote: I'll probably install an external fuel tank in the truck to haul gas for the airplanes (mogas STC). You could put that tank on the trailer. But I think you will have to have HazMat placards, stop at railroad crossings, etc. if the tank is more than 119 gallons. Or 40 gallons.

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2013-01-25 Thread Brian Toscano
That might be a red flag in a downtown metro area. But out in farm country I have never seen a farm truck with a fuel tank stop or have placards. In some areas they don't even have to be tagged and separately insured. On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 8:17 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: OK Don

Re: [MBZ] OT - pickem-up trucks

2013-01-25 Thread WILTON
Certainly NOT, 'less I HAD to! 'Lucky to not have HAD TO for a long time. Wilton - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 10:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - pickem-up trucks Cash

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2013-01-25 Thread WILTON
25, 2013 10:03 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - pickem-up trucks Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Cash buyer? You will get a better deal financing, that is where dealers make money Nothing to stop you from paying it off in a month or so. Or you can negotiate a financing deal then switch to cash after you

Re: [MBZ] OT - pickem-up trucks

2013-01-25 Thread Brian Toscano
@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 10:03 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - pickem-up trucks Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Cash buyer? You will get a better deal financing, that is where dealers make money Nothing to stop you from paying it off in a month or so. Or you can negotiate a financing

Re: [MBZ] OT - pickem-up trucks

2013-01-25 Thread clay monroe
Bank or loan originator. Kick back to finance, because they expect to make more in the interest. Best way to purchase is to let them do paperwork for financing, it loosens them up about dropping price. You have very little cash out of pocket that day, and you have 30 days to pay off in full

Re: [MBZ] OT - pickem-up trucks

2013-01-25 Thread clay monroe
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 10:03 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - pickem-up trucks Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Cash buyer? You will get a better deal financing, that is where dealers make money Nothing to stop you from paying it off

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2013-01-24 Thread Rick Knoble
On Jan 24, 2013, at 10:57 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Any opinions (or even facts?) that would over ride price in choosing between Ford, GM, and Chrysler trucks? 1/2 ton or 3/4 ton? My cousin just bought a new GMC. He picked it because the bed is somewhat lower, and therefore