someone claiming to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hollywood plastic surgeons must have buckets of renderable fat.
Wow. You mean I can run my 240d off a tankful of Joan Rivers?
(SHUDDER)
Mac
I dunno what dat is, but it AIN'T NO BIODIESEL, DUDE
Hollywood plastic surgeons must have buckets of renderable fat.
And some fellow will get the idea for "Biodiesel of the Stars" from it
On Monday, August 22, 2005, at 06:57 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote:
The cheaper the bacon, the greater the output of grease!!
On 8/19/05, Marshall Booth <[EMAI
It's the feathers. Damn feathers make everything stink.
Probably operator error of failure to RTFM. WA state ferry system
suspended their trial of BioD. Claimed it clogged the filters.Ran
148k gallons through the ship, plugged filters. Then stopped. Ran D2
for a bit. Went back to Bio
99% of the lawyers give the rest a bad name.
On 8/22/05, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> At least YOU felt good about yourself. Well done!
>
> On 8/20/05, BenzBarn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I once had a bumper sticker that read:
> >
> > '' Nuke the gay, unborn, baby whales
At least YOU felt good about yourself. Well done!
On 8/20/05, BenzBarn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I once had a bumper sticker that read:
>
> '' Nuke the gay, unborn, baby whales ''
>
>
> Not sure why it upset so many activists
>
>
>
The cheaper the bacon, the greater the output of grease!!
On 8/19/05, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> LT Don wrote:
> > $1.59 on sale at Fareway in Iowa. Not the grease -- ya gotta actually
> > cook and eat the stuff to get the grease. I call it "my burden" for
> > the Chris Project.
Right, but I think they have hit some snags...which,
hopefully, will be worked out. THen I can give them my
bacon grease :-)
Christopher
--- redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Article in Discover Mag. two years ago claims it
> puts out #2, and able
> to refine up to petrol of low octane. Th
Actually, I did, but decided to keep the 240 engine in
the car and experiment that way...real driving
conditions. I would not run any other diesel engine
(300SD, generator, etc) on anything but D2.
Experiments are limited to the 240.
Also, seems that it's alot of work to create a frame
for the 240
Save the whales. Collect one of each.
On 8/20/05, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> David Brodbeck wrote:
> >
> > Yeah, but Japanese and Norwegian sailors would always be trying to embed
> > harpoons in your hood.
>
> And a watch repairman would steal your car so he could sell the cont
David Brodbeck wrote:
>
> Yeah, but Japanese and Norwegian sailors would always be trying to embed
> harpoons in your hood.
And a watch repairman would steal your car so he could sell the contents
of the fuel tank by the ounce and retire on the proceeds. They can't get
sperm oil any more, and I'v
redghost wrote:
> It would be same as lamp oil of old. No way it would smoke, and of
> course it would make the car faster. You ever see how fast a whale
> goes? May even allow the car to convert to amphibious mode like a Bond
> car. Then you can get from Baja to AK without using up the ti
It would be same as lamp oil of old. No way it would smoke, and of
course it would make the car faster. You ever see how fast a whale
goes? May even allow the car to convert to amphibious mode like a Bond
car. Then you can get from Baja to AK without using up the tires
On Friday, August
I once had a bumper sticker that read:
'' Nuke the gay, unborn, baby whales ''
Not sure why it upset so many activists
Maybe I'll get some of that stuff I get emails for, and mix it with the
sperm whale oil, and the car will be much more powerful?
--R
redghost wrote:
Right or Sperm?
On Friday, August 19, 2005, at 04:48 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:
You think whale oil would work in the Benz? It is a very fine
Article in Discover Mag. two years ago claims it puts out #2, and able
to refine up to petrol of low octane. Think best use was to get carbon
black out of all the junk put in.
the plant is not supposed to stink. The whole process makes it all
clean according to marketing folks
On Friday, A
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Looked at a diesel generator tonight too...screw the
> grid. You know people are running HOME fuel oil
> furnaces on veggie oil (but probably not pig fat or
> gear lube)...endless possibilities
Why? You've got an OM616. You could have a bacon fat diesel generator!
LoL.
Right or Sperm?
On Friday, August 19, 2005, at 04:48 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:
You think whale oil would work in the Benz? It is a very fine
lubricant, and burns with no soot.
--R
___
For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For new parts see www.buymbp
Chris!!!
You have to get some baby seal oil for the car! I understand it has
incredible lubricity and will make your IP squeaking clean when hit
with a club. If you have a hard time getting the seal oil, maybe the
whale oil (available from your local First Nations store) will be of a
high e
Yup! Gump has to get a fresh batch of M1 added to her IP when there is
too much #2 in there.
On Friday, August 19, 2005, at 02:30 PM, Chuck Landenberger wrote:
Macs
No need for the kevlar from here A correction to the quote
below...
IIRC the Bosch injection pump does not rely on
Now remember, you can't have too many measuring tools -- always have
to have these sorts of things on hand!
Now you've got me started - why am I sending oil samples off to be
analyzed? I got A's in qualitative analysis. I have forgotten 90% of
it in the last 35 years, but it sure was fun.
On 8/18/
Answerd my own question:
"As long as TBN is above 0.5 there is no need to
change SynLube, and even if TBN becomes NEGATIVE
(TAN) then only small addition of 4 to 8 oz of TBN
additive that is available from SynLube,Inc. will
drastically increase TBN readings (sometimes OVER 10).
TBN is generally
To frighten y'all even more, after trashing the 240D
(2 to 1 odds in the next two months), I plan on
running a 560 SEL on gasogen, building a waste oil
heater
(http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/ethanol_motherearth/me4.html#mwoh)
and making a biogas digester to fuel my gas log.
Looked at
Whateverthanol - I like it, but not using any alcohol,
although if I drink enough Boulevard Wheat Beer
tonight, I might try that :-)
Eco-coal - Dr. Rudy Diesel did that. Didn't work too
well (idiot)...then he tried "benzine" and blew up
half his shop (idiot), then tried peanut oil and
amazed the 1
keeping a close eye on the fuel strainer and both
filters. When the IP croaks, you'll be the first to
know.
Christopher
--- David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> > Im not going to get sued, and even if I did they
> wouldnt get much. Keep
> > on posting your res
thought of visiting the place. It was supposed to put
out oil at $15/barrel...right now it's costing
$80/barrel and the plant stinks so bad that the
neighbors are not happy. Warren Buffett's son is a big
investor in it. All I know. I thought it was a lower
grade than #2...
Christopher
--- redghos
Marshall,
Thank you for explaining the problem with the high
sulfur content of gear lube. I guess that's why the
new stuff smells almost as bad as the used stuff. I
can see why this is a problem. Perhaps the alkalinity
of the very large amount of motor oil
(proportiionally) in the mix (of the oil
As usual, the Onion lends some perspective:
http://www.onion.com/infograph/index.php?issue=4133
The bottom bullet point makes me think of our friend Christopher.
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> Im not going to get sued, and even if I did they wouldnt get much. Keep
> on posting your results. Although I will say you will blow your engine
> up sooner or later.
I think he'll just ruin his injector pump. Actually, it's more likely
he'll clog up the fuel strain
The Butterball Turkey plant some place in MO is putting out #2 type
fuel for internal vehicle use from the offal. The process is thermal
depolymerization and the stuff coming out the end is #2 (must be bio of
a sort). Would the thermal part of it have rid the feed stock of water
and other cru
wrote:
> ROTFLMAO
>
> Royce Engler
> 1985 300TD Turbo 265K
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
> Rich Thomas
> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 5:58 PM
> To: Mercedes mailing list
> Su
Thanks for the encouragement, Bill. Don't really think
this is cutting edge, but would like to substantiate
or disprove all the "I added horse piss to my benz for
20 years and it worked just fine" stories.
Thanks, Christopher
--- Bill Aston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I would imagine that the
ROTFLMAO
Royce Engler
1985 300TD Turbo 265K
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rich Thomas
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 5:58 PM
To: Mercedes mailing list
Subject: Re: [MBZ] fuel experiments...bacon grease and OLD gear lube (DO
NOT TRY
Fri, 19 Aug 2005 12:12:51 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Christopher McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] fuel experiments...bacon grease
> and OLD gear lube
> To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Message-ID:
>
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type:
quite salty (thats what makes it tasty) and as such is
definately corrosive.
-Curt
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 12:12:51 -0700 (PDT)
From: Christopher McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] fuel experiments...bacon grease and OLD gear lube
To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> One of the few things the French have done
> recently that's worth admiring is sinking Rainbow Warrior.
As recently as 241 months ago, eh?
http://library.christchurch.org.nz/Childrens/NZDisasters/RainbowWarrior.asp
Im not going to get sued, and even if I did they wouldnt get much. Keep
on posting your results. Although I will say you will blow your engine
up sooner or later. I would like to start a pool on this, i give it 2
months.
Christopher McCann wrote:
Dear Steve,
No need for the Kevlar suit.
Christopher McCann wrote:
I drained my differential (on the AKP-Wagen) last
nigght - looked like thick chocolate milk abd smelled
disgusting. Filtered it and dumped it in the tank.
Also filtered a mix of used VO and bacon grease. I
took a 50/50 mix of the VO-bacon grease and D2 and put
it in the
you are correct macswine.
Steve MacSween wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> IIRC the Bosch injection pump does not rely on the lubrication
qualities of
> the fuel. The pumps in our cars use motor oil for lubrication.
>
> That's why the reduction of sulfur is not a criti
Even if this 240D was rough body wise, the engine is at least worth not
abusing. It may run OK for a while, but one day it will all the sudden
loose compresson in 1 or more holes because its carboned up or worse.
Mitch Haley wrote:
Christopher McCann wrote:
I drained my differential (on th
LT Don wrote:
$1.59 on sale at Fareway in Iowa. Not the grease -- ya gotta actually
cook and eat the stuff to get the grease. I call it "my burden" for
the Chris Project.
If I could get a gallon for $1.59 there MIGHT be an argument to be made,
but I doubt that $1.59 would generate even a qt o
hey chris, thanks for the package, it arrived.
Christopher McCann wrote:
I drained my differential (on the AKP-Wagen) last
nigght - looked like thick chocolate milk abd smelled
disgusting. Filtered it and dumped it in the tank.
Also filtered a mix of used VO and bacon grease. I
took a 50/50 mix
Greenpeace!!!1
On 8/19/05, Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> You think whale oil would work in the Benz? It is a very fine
> lubricant, and burns with no soot.
>
> --R
>
> >
> >
>
>
> ___
> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> For
You think whale oil would work in the Benz? It is a very fine
lubricant, and burns with no soot.
--R
$1.59 on sale at Fareway in Iowa. Not the grease -- ya gotta actually
cook and eat the stuff to get the grease. I call it "my burden" for
the Chris Project.
On 8/19/05, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> LT Don wrote:
> > I think bacon grease is pushing the envelope of sanity a bit too mu
LT Don wrote:
I think bacon grease is pushing the envelope of sanity a bit too much.
I seem to remember reading that animal fats were to be avoided at all
costs.
And has anybody checked out what bacon fat costs per gallon for pretty
poor fuel??
Marshall
--
Marshall Booth (who does
Now don't start knocking ACLU. And don't EVEN think about putting in a
Greenpeace slam!
Does it smell good when you drive it? From the bacon not the gear lube
(that stuff smells foul even when new, burned probably worse).
I am extremely concerned however that you might be inadvertantly
exposing devout Jews, Muslims, vegans, PETA activists and perhaps some
erudite Hollywood actor
Dear Steve,
No need for the Kevlar suit. I appreciate your
comments.
1. First your concern about people taking what is said
casually as if it were gospel. I make a point, more
than anyone else on this list, of confessing my
newbie-ness and general ignorance. I hope nobody reads
one of my posts an
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> IIRC the Bosch injection pump does not rely on the lubrication qualities of
> the fuel. The pumps in our cars use motor oil for lubrication.
>
> That's why the reduction of sulfur is not a critical factor in Bosch pumps as
> it is in rotary injection pumps that use d
Mac,
Forgot to sign off.
Chuck
Phoenix, AZ
1980 300SD
On Aug 19, 2005, at 2:30 PM, Chuck Landenberger wrote:
Macs
No need for the kevlar from here A correction to the quote
below...
IIRC the Bosch injection pump does not rely on the lubrication
qualities of the fuel. The p
Macs
No need for the kevlar from here A correction to the quote
below...
IIRC the Bosch injection pump does not rely on the lubrication
qualities of the fuel. The pumps in our cars use motor oil for
lubrication.
That's why the reduction of sulfur is not a critical factor in Bo
So all the dinosaurs were skinny? Crude oil is lean muscle mass? I'm getting
confused again.
Ken
In a message dated 8/19/2005 1:47:16 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
From: LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] fuel experiments...bacon grease a
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 1. what is so different about gear lube than other
> oils - motor, ATF, etc? that makes it so bad.
Nothing, inherently, that I am aware of, makes it BAD. Though I have never
heard of anyone running gear oil through their diesel fuel system. Also, it
obviously has diffe
:-)
If I keep these grease posts up, you might use them to
get me committed to your institution!
Christopher
--- LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You are overlooking the cholestoral issues here. Try
> cutting it with
> Lipitor perhaps.
>
> On 8/19/05, Christopher McCann
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
You are overlooking the cholestoral issues here. Try cutting it with
Lipitor perhaps.
On 8/19/05, Christopher McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 2. bacon grease - filtered, simply, but hardly
> refined. It blends perfectly fine with diesel, so why
> should it cause a problem in the injection
Yes, I was serious. Yes, it's a $500 rust bucket (that
runs well, for the time being anyway).
So:
1. what is so different about gear lube than other
oils - motor, ATF, etc? that makes it so bad. You
mention sulfur additive...is that going to cause a
mechanical problem, or simply violate Ultra-low
And this, boys and girls, is why he was smart enough to buy a "beater"
Benz diesel for this project rather than experimenting on his S-Class
diesel.
On 8/19/05, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Christopher McCann wrote:
> >
> > I drained my differential (on the AKP-Wagen) last
> > nigght -
Christopher McCann wrote:
>
> I drained my differential (on the AKP-Wagen) last
> nigght - looked like thick chocolate milk abd smelled
> disgusting.
So you put sulphur additive gear oil, likely mixed with water
if it's that color, in your fuel? With bacon skillet drippings?
No, I think he is as serious as an injector heart attack (which isn't
a bad analogy).
On 8/19/05, Steve MacSween
>
> OMG, I thought that was a joke. Unrefined animal fat? Through a Bosch
> plunger injection pump? Not in this lifetime, even strained do death.
--
If we couldn't laugh we would
someone claiming to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I seem to remember reading that animal fats were to be avoided at all
> costs.
OMG, I thought that was a joke. Unrefined animal fat? Through a Bosch
plunger injection pump? Not in this lifetime, even strained do death.
MAC
I think bacon grease is pushing the envelope of sanity a bit too much.
I seem to remember reading that animal fats were to be avoided at all
costs.
I drained my differential (on the AKP-Wagen) last
nigght - looked like thick chocolate milk abd smelled
disgusting. Filtered it and dumped it in the tank.
Also filtered a mix of used VO and bacon grease. I
took a 50/50 mix of the VO-bacon grease and D2 and put
it in the freezer. It gelled. Added th
Chris,
I'd suggest an email to Virginia Tech. LOTS of guys down there (such
as my son was) looking for MS projects.
On 8/18/05, Christopher McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> that's a great idea. There is plenty of "room" for
> very serious research in this field. trip to UMKC (U
> of MO @ KC)..
Go to the Chem department first. That's where you'll find a GC/MS.
Tim
1982 300TD Moby
On 8/18/05, Christopher McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> that's a great idea. There is plenty of "room" for
> very serious research in this field. trip to UMKC (U
> of MO @ KC)...chemistry...environmental
>
that's a great idea. There is plenty of "room" for
very serious research in this field. trip to UMKC (U
of MO @ KC)...chemistry...environmental
sciences...engineering...
CM
--- TimothyPilgrim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A university lab might do it for free and chalk it
> up to "research".
> Yo
A university lab might do it for free and chalk it up to "research".
You could even side up with a grad student and convince them it's
thesis material...
Tim
1982 300TD Moby
On 8/18/05, Christopher McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> that makes sense for forensic work. Wouldn't hurt to
> phone th
that makes sense for forensic work. Wouldn't hurt to
phone the KCPD lab and ask if they do outside jobs
too. If university labs do it for a little cash, why
not the cops?
CM
--- TimothyPilgrim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> No, a forensic lab will do its work in-house.
> There's a little thing
> c
gas chromatography services - that was easy.
http://fp.uni.edu/rrttc/mts/services.asp
http://fp.uni.edu/rrttc/mts/GasChromatography.asp
http://www.chem.fsu.edu/facilities/fa_sl_bass.asp#services
and a bunch of others...wonder what they charge. :-/
Will keep y'all updated.
CM
--- Christopher Mc
No, a forensic lab will do its work in-house. There's a little thing
called continuity or chain-of-custody that prevents outsourcing. Some
labs will do civilian work, but at a fee. It might be affordable,
might not. Depends on what lab it is, if they'll do it at all.
Tim
1982 300TD Moby
On 8/18/0
LOL - we had one donated to us in High School (I was
in the science club) and we could never get it to
work...don't really want to go that route. Would
rather find a service. gonna google it now.
CM
--- OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Start searching eBay for Mass specttometers and gas
> chr
I was thinking of calling a forensic lab and asking if
they send samples out to be tested. Will try to find a
service.
CM
--- TimothyPilgrim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Any half decent forensic lab will have a GS/MS that
> would fit the
> bill. How you go about getting use of it may require
> s
Any half decent forensic lab will have a GS/MS that would fit the
bill. How you go about getting use of it may require some undesirable
steps on your part... :)
Tim
1982 300TD Moby
On 8/18/05, Christopher McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> mixed 1 part A-1 sauce (stuff from barrel
> remanufactur
Start searching eBay for Mass specttometers and gas chromatagraphs --
> Wonder how much it would cost to have this stuff
> identified with a spectrometer?...
>
> Pax,
>
--
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK
'87 300SDL
'81 240D
'78 450SLC
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