Re: HP ProLiant DL 385

2006-03-14 Thread edgarz
Maybe you can suggest optimal configuration for mail server? It will be used for spam/virus filtering (~4000 mail accounts), proxy server (~100 clients). I think it's enought with 1CPU DL 145 system, but local dealer gives 2nd CPU for free for DL 385 :) Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2006/03/14 2

Re: multibooting X40 / lenovo load

2006-03-14 Thread Danny Cautaert
On 2006-03-14, Chris Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anyhow... disklabel still acts strange. See the attached output and notice > after I create wd0a, it sets the offset of wd0b to the beginning of wd0a > instead of at the end of wd0a. Why is this? I noticed the same problem on my X40 (although

Re: Reminder about the X Aperture

2006-03-14 Thread JR Dalrymple
J.C. Roberts wrote: On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:37:17 +0200, "Marius Van Deventer - Umzimkulu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Maybe the team should consider this for the OpenBSD 4.0 artwork. Maybe with a tagline like "The Admin who could not read" or "Annie get your Glasses". OR, (in light of so m

Re: (newbie) a network related question

2006-03-14 Thread Lars Hansson
On Tuesday 14 March 2006 22:48, FTP wrote: > If ISPs have a fixed pool of static IP addresses then what happens if we > 'spend' all the existing ones and nothing is left for the newcomers? The idea is that IPv6 should have replaced Ipv4 by that time --- Lars Hansson

Re: Reminder about the X Aperture

2006-03-14 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 17:50:31 -0700, Darrin Chandler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>The often used OpenBSD phrase "Secure By Default" actually encourages >>the lazy attitudes and lack of learning. Worse yet, "Secure By Default" >>is fairly misleading since systems are always secured by knowledge, >>e

Re: Reminder about the X Aperture

2006-03-14 Thread Andrew Ng
I agreed too. Anyone who choose to use OpenBSD should have a basic understanding that no system is 100% secure. Even if there is, people can still attack the weakest link(human) with social engineering. OpenBSD and other projects allow us a choice against vendors who care about making more $ than p

Re: Reminder about the X Aperture

2006-03-14 Thread Darrin Chandler
J.C. Roberts wrote: These days, you see computer security mentioned on the nightly news, yet there's never any mention of correctness or quality. The result has been obvious; people have flocked to OpenBSD in hopes of attaining this supposed "security" thing but they never realized there is a lo

Re: Reminder about the X Aperture

2006-03-14 Thread Theo de Raadt
> >> Are these new programable cards capable of reading main memory, which > >> OpenBSD would not be able to prevent if machdep.allowaperture were > >> set to something other than 0? > > > > Yes, they have DMA engines. If the privilege seperate X server has a > > bug, it can still wiggle the IO re

Re: Reminder about the X Aperture

2006-03-14 Thread Shane J Pearson
Thanks Theo, On 2006.03.15, at 5:22 AM, Theo de Raadt wrote: Are these new programable cards capable of reading main memory, which OpenBSD would not be able to prevent if machdep.allowaperture were set to something other than 0? Yes, they have DMA engines. If the privilege seperate X server

Re: Where to find 3.9 snapshots

2006-03-14 Thread Andrew Ng
Or you can donate a ton of money? On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:50:30 -0700, "Theo de Raadt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > Danilo Piazzalunga wrote: > > > Steve Shockley ha scritto: > > > > > >>Danilo Piazzalunga wrote: > > >> > > >>>Are snapshot not available anymore? > > > > Hello, > > > > I have be

Re: Low-cost 1U server

2006-03-14 Thread Donald J. Ankney
I have two of the "Vision" Servers that Tiger sells for $600: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp? EdpNo=705537&CatId=0 I've had no problems whatsoever as a low-volume server platform. On Mar 14, 2006, at 8:59 AM, Chris 'Xenon' Hanson wrote: Andrew Ng wrote:

Re: electricfence/malloc() query

2006-03-14 Thread Alexander Hall
Gongalo Ferreira wrote: I'm not a C programmer, but I actually don't see nothing wrong with that code... Could you point the error out? Ah. Took me a few moments, but... Marco Peereboom wrote: #include #include struct moo { u_int32_t a, b, c, d; chare[44

Re: Reminder about the X Aperture

2006-03-14 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:37:17 +0200, "Marius Van Deventer - Umzimkulu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Maybe the team should consider this for the OpenBSD 4.0 artwork. > >Maybe with a tagline like "The Admin who could not read" or "Annie get >your Glasses". > >OR, (in light of so many users who expect

Re: Where to find 3.9 snapshots

2006-03-14 Thread Theo de Raadt
> Danilo Piazzalunga wrote: > > Steve Shockley ha scritto: > > > >>Danilo Piazzalunga wrote: > >> > >>>Are snapshot not available anymore? > > Hello, > > I have been looking for 3.9 snapshots for i386 on OBSD mirrors and I can > not find the X stuff there. Is it a matter of waiting more time un

Re: Low-cost 1U server

2006-03-14 Thread Andrew Ng
Is the code frozen for OpenBSD 3.9? I hope not, and that someone is looking at this issue. Looks a better proposition for my case. I had queried the PR, didn't seem to have any related case opened? Can anyone log one, as it is inappropiate for me to do that when I don't even have the hardware? Appr

Re: HP ProLiant DL 385

2006-03-14 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2006/03/14 22:50, Srebrenko Sehic wrote: > On 3/14/06, edgarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I will be a very happy if those two servers (DL 145 and DL 385) will > > work. Means hardware will detect and work without strange things, like a > > slow hdd system, unusable raid or similar crap :)

Re: Where to find 3.9 snapshots

2006-03-14 Thread Ramiro Aceves
Danilo Piazzalunga wrote: Steve Shockley ha scritto: Danilo Piazzalunga wrote: Are snapshot not available anymore? Hello, I have been looking for 3.9 snapshots for i386 on OBSD mirrors and I can not find the X stuff there. Is it a matter of waiting more time until they appear or is that

Re: OpenBSD 3.8 ports quality?

2006-03-14 Thread Ramiro Aceves
Most ports support setting CFLAGS. cd /usr/ports/foo/bar env 'CFLAGS=-g -O0' make install Don't be surprised if '-O0' makes the bug dissappear. Hello Andrew, Many thanks for the valuable information. I will start doing the debugging this week end. We are in this world to learn things, not

Re: electricfence/malloc() query

2006-03-14 Thread Gonçalo Ferreira
I'm not a C programmer, but I actually don't see nothing wrong with that code... Could you point the error out? Marco Peereboom wrote: #include #include struct moo { u_int32_t a, b, c, d; chare[44]; }; int main(int argc, char *argv[]) { struct moo

Re: t-shirts

2006-03-14 Thread Graeme Lee
frantisek holop wrote: hi there, it is not my intention to pick a fight again about t-shirts, size, color, etc. but i was just wondering... the other day i went out in my puffy wireframe t-shirt and people who never heard of openbsd noticed it and expressed how nice and catchy it was. My

Re: OpenBSD 3.8 ports quality?

2006-03-14 Thread Ramiro Aceves
Kurt B. Kaiser wrote: "Ramiro Aceves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Nice to see someone who says something constructive. Would you mind if you can point me to a HOWTO on how to do that. I will be pleased to help. I supose that I must compile gnumeric with debugging simbols first, as someone stat

Re: OpenBSD 3.8 ports quality?

2006-03-14 Thread Ramiro Aceves
Matthias Kilian wrote: On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 08:34:08PM +, Edd Barrett wrote: cd /usr/ports/math/gnumeric make configure cd w-gnumeric-x.x.x/gnumeric-x.x.x vi Makefile Ouch. make DEBUG=-g install should do the job. Thank you very much! Ramiro.

Re: HP ProLiant DL 385

2006-03-14 Thread Srebrenko Sehic
On 3/14/06, edgarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I will be a very happy if those two servers (DL 145 and DL 385) will > work. Means hardware will detect and work without strange things, like a > slow hdd system, unusable raid or similar crap :) I would choose the SCSI version of DL145 G2, since SA

Re: Low-cost 1U server

2006-03-14 Thread Srebrenko Sehic
On 3/14/06, Bryan Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sunfire X2100? They're Opterons, not Pentiums, but... Has issues, but has no showstoppers. Unless you put your nfe(4) card under stress. Look at http://www.armorlogic.com/oscl/ for all the details.

Re: HP ProLiant DL 385

2006-03-14 Thread edgarz
Ouu, sounds interesting. Sometimes it can be a very usefull thing :) Can't wait for 3.9 anymore :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: edgarz wrote: Looks good! but what is that: > "Compaq iLO" rev 0x01 at pci1 dev 2 function 0 not configured > "Compaq iLO" rev 0x01 at pci1 dev 2 function 2 not configur

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Re: OpenBSD 3.8 ports quality?

2006-03-14 Thread Matthias Kilian
On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 08:34:08PM +, Edd Barrett wrote: > cd /usr/ports/math/gnumeric > make configure > cd w-gnumeric-x.x.x/gnumeric-x.x.x > vi Makefile Ouch. make DEBUG=-g install should do the job. -- It's a Barrier Of Entry issue: if you can't figure out which floppy to boot from, go

Re: HP ProLiant DL 385

2006-03-14 Thread edgarz
I will be a very happy if those two servers (DL 145 and DL 385) will work. Means hardware will detect and work without strange things, like a slow hdd system, unusable raid or similar crap :) Srebrenko Sehic wrote: On 3/14/06, edgarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Looks good! but what is that:

Re: HP ProLiant DL 385

2006-03-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
edgarz wrote: Looks good! but what is that: > "Compaq iLO" rev 0x01 at pci1 dev 2 function 0 not configured > "Compaq iLO" rev 0x01 at pci1 dev 2 function 2 not configured iLO (integrated Lights-Out) is an onboard mini-computer on a chip which can control the machine's state, e.g. reboot it, s

Re: Low-cost 1U server

2006-03-14 Thread Bryan Allen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sunfire X2100? They're Opterons, not Pentiums, but... I haven't put OpenBSD on mine (it's running Solaris 10), but there have been other messages to the list suggesting it works Pretty Well and should work Just Fine for 3.9. It's actually a ver

Re: OpenBSD 3.8 ports quality?

2006-03-14 Thread Kurt B. Kaiser
"Ramiro Aceves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Nice to see someone who says something constructive. Would you mind if > you can point me to a HOWTO on how to do that. I will be pleased to > help. I supose that I must compile gnumeric with debugging simbols > first, as someone stated before. And run

Re: OpenBSD 3.8 ports quality?

2006-03-14 Thread Andrew Dalgleish
On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 08:34:08PM +, Edd Barrett wrote: > Nice to see someone who says something constructive. Would you mind if > > > you can point me to a HOWTO on how to do that. I will be pleased to > > help. I supose that I must compile gnumeric with debugging simbols > > first, as someo

Re: HP ProLiant DL 385

2006-03-14 Thread Henrik Hellerstedt
On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 10:43:30PM +0200, edgarz wrote: > Looks good! > but what is that: > > "Compaq iLO" rev 0x01 at pci1 dev 2 function 0 not configured > > "Compaq iLO" rev 0x01 at pci1 dev 2 function 2 not configured > ? > It is a remote server management card, can be afaik on-board or as a a

Re: t-shirts

2006-03-14 Thread Matthias Kilian
On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 09:09:52PM +0100, frantisek holop wrote: > and that's where i realized that i want to face the people > who look at my shirt so i can see their reaction, because > sometimes they do react. but never happened that someone > came up from behind and said, that shirt on your ba

Re: HP ProLiant DL 385

2006-03-14 Thread Srebrenko Sehic
On 3/14/06, edgarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Looks good! > but what is that: > > "Compaq iLO" rev 0x01 at pci1 dev 2 function 0 not configured > > "Compaq iLO" rev 0x01 at pci1 dev 2 function 2 not configured That's just Integrated Lights Out stuff. You don't need that from OpenBSD. And yes

Re: HP ProLiant DL 385

2006-03-14 Thread edgarz
Looks good! but what is that: > "Compaq iLO" rev 0x01 at pci1 dev 2 function 0 not configured > "Compaq iLO" rev 0x01 at pci1 dev 2 function 2 not configured ? Stuart Henderson wrote: DL385: sorry it's only from bsd.rd, but here's a dmesg. NICs and disks are seen. Haven't tested performance unde

Re: OpenBSD 3.8 ports quality?

2006-03-14 Thread Edd Barrett
Nice to see someone who says something constructive. Would you mind if > you can point me to a HOWTO on how to do that. I will be pleased to > help. I supose that I must compile gnumeric with debugging simbols > first, as someone stated before. And run gdb or ddd. Hi, There is no howto, but I t

t-shirts

2006-03-14 Thread frantisek holop
hi there, it is not my intention to pick a fight again about t-shirts, size, color, etc. but i was just wondering... the other day i went out in my puffy wireframe t-shirt and people who never heard of openbsd noticed it and expressed how nice and catchy it was. and that's where i realized tha

Re: OpenBSD 3.8 ports quality?

2006-03-14 Thread Ramiro Aceves
On 3/14/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > GNUMERIC. The application crashes after introducing a number on a > > cell-> right click->format cells > > Clearly something rather fundamental is broken. It is very likely an > issue > relating to the port. > > We have no reports of s

Re: Email serving on oBSD 3.8

2006-03-14 Thread Michael Erdely
On 3/12/06, Vijay Sankar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here is one suggestion . . . > > 1) Use sendmail that is installed from the stock OpenBSD CD, just comment > out the localhost.cf portion in rc.conf so that you use the standard > sendmail.cf Agreed. What is it that postfix can do that sendmai

Re: HP ProLiant DL 385

2006-03-14 Thread Stuart Henderson
DL385: sorry it's only from bsd.rd, but here's a dmesg. NICs and disks are seen. Haven't tested performance under OpenBSD. BBU for the RAID card has a cable that seems exceptionally short until you realise it's been wrapped around (hey, don't laugh, took me half an hour to spot that!). OpenBSD 3.9

Re: Where to find 3.9 snapshots

2006-03-14 Thread Danilo Piazzalunga
Steve Shockley ha scritto: > Danilo Piazzalunga wrote: >> Are snapshot not available anymore? > > http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html#NoSnaps Sorry, I have completely missed this FAQ entry (I didn't search under "Building the system from source" when looking for pre-build snapshots). A small su

Re: Can't use some characters in xterm/console

2006-03-14 Thread Craig
I suggested something along those lines and got the email equivalent of a blank look. -- Best regards, Craig http://slashboot.org/ Andreas Kahari wrote: On 14/03/06, Andris Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I use the ksh shell. Tried csh in an xterm, no problem there (I can use the charact

Re: Can't use some characters in xterm/console

2006-03-14 Thread Andreas Kahari
On 14/03/06, David T Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It depends on what's currently in your .kshrc file. > If you want you can just backup your current .kshrc file > to some other filename, and then try ksh. If you still > have problems then it's probably not a problem with your > local settin

Re: Reminder about the X Aperture

2006-03-14 Thread Theo de Raadt
> Are these new programable cards capable of reading main memory, which > OpenBSD would not be able to prevent if machdep.allowaperture were > set to something other than 0? Yes, they have DMA engines. If the privilege seperate X server has a bug, it can still wiggle the IO registers of the c

Re: Low-cost 1U server

2006-03-14 Thread Andrew Ng
Thanks but local technical/customer support is required. On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 17:44:50 +, "Edd Barrett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On 3/14/06, chefren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 03/14/06 16:46, Andrew Ng wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > from previous threads in this list, I gathered tha

Re: Where to find 3.9 snapshots

2006-03-14 Thread Danilo Piazzalunga
Greg Thomas ha scritto: > Around release time snapshots get taken down. I have an i386 Mar 2 > snapshot if you want to try it. Send me a private email and I'll put > it up somewhere. I didn't grab the X install files, though, just > bsd.rd, bsd, and the basic system stuff. After some more sear

Re: Can't use some characters in xterm/console

2006-03-14 Thread Craig
I might be barking up the wrong tree here, but is it a coincidence that the letters affected are s and q, when you look at the default content of dot.profile ? Have a look at your .profile file and make sure that the tset line is in good shape. It should read: if [ -x /usr/bin/tset ]; then

Re: Slow SCSI HDD (HW RAID) on Dual Xeon

2006-03-14 Thread Jeff Quast
On 3/13/06, Jeff Quast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you don't mind me chiming in, my disks arn't nearly as slow, but I > expected them to be faster. Can anybody make a recommendation to > improve my disk i/o, or confirm the speeds I get are about right? This > is the first machine I've had thats

Re: Low-cost 1U server

2006-03-14 Thread Andrew Ng
A possible option but as explained earlier, I had bad experience with Dell technical/customer support. I was treated as if a know-nothing user even when talking to them in technical capacity. Presented a lack of interest on after-sales support, YMMV. On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 18:19:19 +0100, "chefren" <[

Re: Can't use some characters in xterm/console

2006-03-14 Thread Andreas Kahari
On 14/03/06, Andris Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I use the ksh shell. Tried csh in an xterm, no problem there (I can > use the characters there). So, is something I can tweak to make them > work in ksh? Sounds to me you want to "un-tweak" something that you've been tweaking... Have a look

Re: Low-cost 1U server

2006-03-14 Thread Edd Barrett
On 3/14/06, chefren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 03/14/06 16:46, Andrew Ng wrote: > > Hi, > > > > from previous threads in this list, I gathered that the Dell PowerEdge > > SC1425 works well with OpenBSD 3.8. However, I have reservations from > > past experience with Dell's customer support, h

Re: Can't use some characters in xterm/console

2006-03-14 Thread David T Harris
It depends on what's currently in your .kshrc file. If you want you can just backup your current .kshrc file to some other filename, and then try ksh. If you still have problems then it's probably not a problem with your local settings, but rather with your global ksh settings. If that's the ca

Re: Can't use some characters in xterm/console

2006-03-14 Thread Andrés Delfino
I use the ksh shell. Tried csh in an xterm, no problem there (I can use the characters there). So, is something I can tweak to make them work in ksh? On 3/14/06, David T Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Actually if you're having the same problems on a tty, > you might want to ssh in remotely an

Re: Low-cost 1U server

2006-03-14 Thread chefren
On 03/14/06 16:46, Andrew Ng wrote: Hi, from previous threads in this list, I gathered that the Dell PowerEdge SC1425 works well with OpenBSD 3.8. However, I have reservations from past experience with Dell's customer support, hope anyone can recommend an equivalent low-cost system with the foll

Re: Can't use some characters in xterm/console

2006-03-14 Thread David T Harris
Actually if you're having the same problems on a tty, you might want to ssh in remotely and change your default shell, to see if it's a problem with some config setting in your .kshrc or .bashrc, etc... Have you tried logging in as a different user? Do you still have the same problems regardles

Re: Can't use some characters in xterm/console

2006-03-14 Thread David T Harris
What exactly happens when you hit the "q" or "s" characters on your keyboard? Do you have some other application launch, or some funky character appear somewhere, etc...? Just wondering because sometimes if you have a keyboard combination shortcut defined in your window manager's config file, tho

spam? what spam?

2006-03-14 Thread frantisek holop
hi there, graphs make the world go around. this graph will tell my super-satisfaction with spamd much better than any of my words could. obiit.org/openbsd/spamdb.png graph made using this (excellent tool): http://nces.ed.gov/nceskids/createagraph/ this mail powered by ellen allien and appar

Re: Low-cost 1U server

2006-03-14 Thread Chris 'Xenon' Hanson
Andrew Ng wrote: Hi, from previous threads in this list, I gathered that the Dell PowerEdge SC1425 works well with OpenBSD 3.8. However, I have reservations from past experience with Dell's customer support, hope anyone can recommend an equivalent low-cost system with the following minimum requir

Re: HP ProLiant DL 385

2006-03-14 Thread Martin Reindl
edgarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So SCSI/RAID is working or no? :) All i know, the fix is in 3.9 :)

Can't use some characters in xterm/console

2006-03-14 Thread Andrés Delfino
Hi, my problem is that I can't use characters like "q" or "s" in xterm or a console. When I'm about to login, I can use that characters, but once logged, no. Is there something I can do? Thanks

Re: HP ProLiant DL 385

2006-03-14 Thread edgarz
So SCSI/RAID is working or no? :) Martin Reindl wrote: "Andrew Ng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: According to this url -> http://www.armorlogic.com/openbsd_information_server_compatibility_list.html, SCSI/RAID does not work. They should test again, the PR was fixed and closed.

Re: (newbie) a network related question

2006-03-14 Thread FTP
On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 10:16:18AM -0500, Peter Landry wrote: > >> Third, if you live in a house with a single address, you cannot > >> publicly start announcing different addresses without the postal > >> service knowing about it. If packets should arrive at your home, then > >> you better make su

Re: HP ProLiant DL 385

2006-03-14 Thread Martin Reindl
"Andrew Ng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > According to this url -> > http://www.armorlogic.com/openbsd_information_server_compatibility_list.html, > SCSI/RAID does not work. They should test again, the PR was fixed and closed.

Re: HP ProLiant DL 385

2006-03-14 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2006/03/14 15:50, Stuart Henderson wrote: > On 2006/03/14 17:36, edgarz wrote: > > Hello, one our customer is interested in that HP server. > > It will run OpenBSD. ahhh sorry - I am confused between DL385 and DL145. (I am sitting next to one of each at the moment and the noise is burrowing int

Re: Email serving on oBSD 3.8

2006-03-14 Thread Craig
Thanks to all who responded. I was (and still am) having a rough time of it (ill) and not thinking too clearly. I'm slowly getting to grips with Postfix and think I should have it working as I want it, before too long. The problem that I was having was down to nothing being created on the disk (

Re: HP ProLiant DL 385

2006-03-14 Thread Andrew Ng
According to this url -> http://www.armorlogic.com/openbsd_information_server_compatibility_list.html, SCSI/RAID does not work. On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 15:50:49 +, "Stuart Henderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On 2006/03/14 17:36, edgarz wrote: > > Hello, one our customer is interested in that HP

Re: (newbie) a network related question

2006-03-14 Thread Peter Landry
>> Third, if you live in a house with a single address, you cannot >> publicly start announcing different addresses without the postal >> service knowing about it. If packets should arrive at your home, then >> you better make sure you write your street and number on the >> announcement, other thin

Re: HP ProLiant DL 385

2006-03-14 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2006/03/14 17:36, edgarz wrote: > Hello, one our customer is interested in that HP server. > It will run OpenBSD. SATA version will run, but OpenBSD does not get on well with the disk controller: disk throughput is really *really* bad. SCSI version, not sure, the host adapter used to hide behi

HP ProLiant DL 385

2006-03-14 Thread edgarz
Hello, one our customer is interested in that HP server. It will run OpenBSD. I want to ask about NIC: Dual HP NC7781 PCI-X Gigabit server adapters (embedded) So looks like it's not supported by OpenBSD, didn't fint on hw page :/ Forget question :) Any cahnces to get it working? Edgars.

Low-cost 1U server

2006-03-14 Thread Andrew Ng
Hi, from previous threads in this list, I gathered that the Dell PowerEdge SC1425 works well with OpenBSD 3.8. However, I have reservations from past experience with Dell's customer support, hope anyone can recommend an equivalent low-cost system with the following minimum requirements - 1) Form

HP ProLiant DL 385

2006-03-14 Thread edgarz
Hello, one our customer is interested in that HP server. It will run OpenBSD. I want to ask about NIC: Dual HP NC7781 PCI-X Gigabit server adapters (embedded) So looks like it's not supported by OpenBSD, didn't fint on hw page :/ Edgars.

Re: electricfence/malloc() query

2006-03-14 Thread Marco Peereboom
I am not an expert at all finding these bugs but I can tell you of an anecdote in some code that I maintain. This is a large application that would fail seemingly random under a fair amount of stress. The odd thing is that this app, which runs on multiple OS' seemed to work on RHEL3, AS 2.1,

Re: (newbie) a network related question

2006-03-14 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2006/03/14 15:48, FTP wrote: > If ISPs have a fixed pool of static IP addresses then what happens > if we 'spend' all the existing ones and nothing is left for the > newcomers? ISPs should have enough address space for their customers and if they need more they'll apply for more from an LIR/RIR

Re: (newbie) a network related question

2006-03-14 Thread David Coppa
On Tuesday 14 March 2006 15:48, you wrote: > I know the way to have different ports by using NAT but this isn't really > what I try to achieve! > > If ISPs have a fixed pool of static IP addresses then what happens if we > 'spend' all the existing ones and nothing is left for the newcomers? > The

Re: (newbie) a network related question

2006-03-14 Thread FTP
please see my replies below! Thank you On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 02:43:17PM +0100, Bernd Schoeller wrote: > On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 02:20:15PM +0100, FTP wrote: > > but isn't a way to route and translate connections via a existing static IP > > address? To have 'internal' IPs acting as static in

Re: (newbie) a network related question

2006-03-14 Thread FTP
I know the way to have different ports by using NAT but this isn't really what I try to achieve! If ISPs have a fixed pool of static IP addresses then what happens if we 'spend' all the existing ones and nothing is left for the newcomers? On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 01:29:01PM +, Patsy wrote: >

Re: Reminder about the X Aperture

2006-03-14 Thread Marius Van Deventer - Umzimkulu
Maybe the team should consider this for the OpenBSD 4.0 artwork. Maybe with a tagline like "The Admin who could not read" or "Annie get your Glasses". OR, (in light of so many users who expect list members to hold their hands) it could say something about the value of man pages. I'm sure any new

Re: Reminder about the X Aperture

2006-03-14 Thread Hannah Schroeter
Hi! On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 02:11:13PM +, Robert Jacobs wrote: >>Therefore, after 3.9, that default for the install script question is >>being changed to "no". >I am sure this will at least double the number of "I installed OpenBSD >and X11 won't work" questions on this mailing list. But it s

Re: Reminder about the X Aperture

2006-03-14 Thread Robert Jacobs
>Therefore, after 3.9, that default for the install script question is >being changed to "no". I am sure this will at least double the number of "I installed OpenBSD and X11 won't work" questions on this mailing list. But it sounds like a good change in the interest of security. Thanks, Robert

Re: (newbie) a network related question

2006-03-14 Thread Didier Wiroth
Forgot "nat" (which is obvious) ... in previous post. Or for example for different http servers, something like this: (use pf + rdr + nat) Server 1 : 10.1.1.1 http port 80 -> router ADSL -> 86.x.x.1 http port 80 Server 2 : 10.1.1.2 http port 8080 -> router ADSL -> 86.x.x.1 http port 8080 Server

Re: (newbie) a network related question

2006-03-14 Thread Didier Wiroth
Hello, Do you really require multiple external ip addresses? If the internals servers have different services you can use something like: (pf + rdr) Server 1 : 10.1.1.1:smtp --> router ADSL---> 86.x.x.x1:smtp (public static IP!) Server 2 : 10.1.1.2:www --> router ADSL---> 86.x.x.x1:www Server 3

Re: (newbie) a network related question

2006-03-14 Thread Matt Rowley
but isn't a way to route and translate connections via a existing static IP address? To have 'internal' IPs acting as static in their own right? How do ISPs 'create' their own static IPs? You don't 'create' an IP address; the address is assigned. Basically, from the IANA to the Regional Inter

BGPD Question

2006-03-14 Thread Anderson Nadal
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello. I have a question about BGPD. It's my bgpd.conf group "peering AS" { remote-as neighbor $peer1 { descr "Principal" announce all local-address $local1 dep

Re: (newbie) a network related question

2006-03-14 Thread Bernd Schoeller
On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 02:20:15PM +0100, FTP wrote: > but isn't a way to route and translate connections via a existing static IP > address? To have 'internal' IPs acting as static in their own right? > How do ISPs 'create' their own static IPs? Gee - we are talking about a huge area of topics

Re: OpenBSD 3.8 ports quality?

2006-03-14 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On 14/03/06, Constantine A. Murenin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 13/03/06, Ramiro Aceves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Why do you say that? Gnumeric works nicely under Linux. No problem at all. > > If something is broken, it is broken. Period. Just because it seems to > work on Linux every time

OBPkg (Port/Package installer)

2006-03-14 Thread Steffen Wendzel
Hi, I wrote an inofficial front-end for the installation of ports and packages under OpenBSD. It is Gtk+-2 based (you need v. 2.6 or newer). You can install local ports, local packages (e.g. mounted CD-ROM) and packages from FTP. It also supports "universe" package mirrors that can include inoffi

Re: OpenBSD 3.8 ports quality?

2006-03-14 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On 13/03/06, Ramiro Aceves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why do you say that? Gnumeric works nicely under Linux. No problem at all. If something is broken, it is broken. Period. Just because it seems to work on Linux every time you try it, doesn't mean that they have no programming mistakes in the

Re: (newbie) a network related question

2006-03-14 Thread FTP
but isn't a way to route and translate connections via a existing static IP address? To have 'internal' IPs acting as static in their own right? How do ISPs 'create' their own static IPs? Thanks On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 01:08:22PM +, Patsy wrote: > > > On Tue, 14 Mar 2006, FTP wrote: > >

Re: electricfence/malloc() query

2006-03-14 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006, Edd Barrett wrote: > Hello people, > > I wish to query the usefullness (if thats not a made up word) of > electricfence on OpenBSD. I have a program which works great when not linked > against -lefence, but gives a bus error otherwise (not as a result of my > code, but in lib

Re: OpenBSD 3.8 ports quality?

2006-03-14 Thread Marius Van Deventer - Umzimkulu
Roberto Pereyra wrote: > > I have better luck using pkgsrc (www.pkgsrc.org) than OpenBSD ports. > > There are more easy to upgrade. > As someone once said USER: "Your software does not suit my needs, I am going elsewhere." DEVELOPER: "Promise?" [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of ty

Re: (newbie) a network related question

2006-03-14 Thread Patsy
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006, FTP wrote: > Hi there, > > my question isn't really OBSD related but I would like to ask if the > following scenario can be implemented by using a two NICs OBSD box! > > If I get a static IP from my provider, is it possible to 'multiple' this and > create my own static IPs w

Re: Reminder about the X Aperture

2006-03-14 Thread Shane J Pearson
Hi Theo, On 2006.03.14, at 9:41 PM, Theo de Raadt wrote: Well, recently we have changed our minds, because we still feel that the aperture is too dangerous. And the vendors keep finding creative ways to squeeze more and more evil into their video cards! Please be aware that other operating sy

electricfence/malloc() query

2006-03-14 Thread Edd Barrett
Hello people, I wish to query the usefullness (if thats not a made up word) of electricfence on OpenBSD. I have a program which works great when not linked against -lefence, but gives a bus error otherwise (not as a result of my code, but in libpq according to a stack trace :O ). A google search

(newbie) a network related question

2006-03-14 Thread FTP
Hi there, my question isn't really OBSD related but I would like to ask if the following scenario can be implemented by using a two NICs OBSD box! If I get a static IP from my provider, is it possible to 'multiple' this and create my own static IPs which are accessible via the Internet? If the

Re: Email serving on oBSD 3.8

2006-03-14 Thread Didier Wiroth
Hello, You may want to use this nice tutorial: http://www.pingwales.co.uk/2005/06/03/OpenBSD-mail-server-config.html Regards Didier -Original Message- From: Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 18:21 To: misc Subject: Email serving on oBSD 3.8 Hi all. Sorry for

Re: OpenBSD 3.8 ports quality?

2006-03-14 Thread David Coppa
On Sunday 12 March 2006 18:11, Wijnand Wiersma wrote: > I have a problem with gnome and the gnome guys should just fix it. > Switching is NOT the solution. Neither the openbsd developers, nor the gnome ones are your subordinates: you're not paying for their time and skills! So just shut up, go f

Re: OpenBSD 3.8 ports quality?

2006-03-14 Thread Roberto Pereyra
Hi I have better luck using pkgsrc (www.pkgsrc.org) than OpenBSD ports. There are more easy to upgrade. roberto 2006/3/12, Ramiro Aceves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Hello dear OpenBSD fans. > > > After "playing" during some time with OpenBSD 3.8 and understanding > how it works, I wanted to give

Re: OpenBSD 3.8 ports quality?

2006-03-14 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 12:10:53AM +0100, Ramiro Aceves wrote: > Why do you insult to the GNU people? aren't you using their compiler?. > I do not understand why you say such things. > > Peace, please. *I* can insult the GNU people. I've spent enough time working around their over-engineered code

Reminder about the X Aperture

2006-03-14 Thread Theo de Raadt
I would like to educate people of something which many are not aware of -- how X works on a modern machine. Some of our architectures use a tricky and horrid thing to allow X to run. This is due to modern PC video card architecture containing a large quantity of PURE EVIL. To get around this evi

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