Re: Internet Connection - Load Balancing and Failover

2012-11-13 Thread Imre Oolberg
On 11/13/12 08:57, Tomas Bodzar wrote: On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 11:09 PM, Walter Netowsouz...@gmail.com wrote: Hello guys, I have two internet connections, and I want to make load balancing and failover service, I had read about pf load balancing and multi-path route, what is the difference

Re: Building OpenConnect with libintl

2012-11-13 Thread Woodhouse, David
On Fri, 2012-11-09 at 12:19 +0100, Marc Espie wrote: autocrap is part of the problem, not the solution. Their documentation concerning version numbering, and all the fuzz they add around it don't help at all. The old style (major.minor) is fairly simple to understand and to use, actually, as

Re: Internet Connection - Load Balancing and Failover

2012-11-13 Thread Uwe Werler
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- An: OpenBSD-misc list misc@openbsd.org; Von:Imre Oolberg i...@auul.pri.ee Gesendet: Di 13.11.2012 09:05 Betreff:Re: Internet Connection - Load Balancing and Failover On 11/13/12 08:57, Tomas Bodzar wrote: On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 11:09 PM,

Re: Unified BSD?

2012-11-13 Thread Joost van de Griek
On 12 Nov 2012, at 21:37 , Robin Björklin robin.bjork...@gmail.com wrote: Am I bat crap crazy for thinking it could be good to merge the four largest BSD variants out there, take the best bits and pieces out of each and create a Unified BSD? You'd end up creating a fifth. .tsooJ -- The

Re: Internet Connection - Load Balancing and Failover

2012-11-13 Thread Pierre Marchal
Hello, I don't think that trunk is appropriate for this scenario. It is use for OSI level 2 (Ethernet) fail over and/or load balancing but won't be able to load balance traffic between two internet connection, witch involve TCP/IP load balancing. Tomas Bodzar tomas.bod...@gmail.com a écrit 

Re: Unified BSD?

2012-11-13 Thread Wayne Oliver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2012/11/13 7:14 AM, Mike. wrote: If your goal is to please as many people as possible, then compromise is the way to go. If your goal is to produce outstanding software then, well, you're gonna have to piss off a few people. Could not agree

Re: Best Performance Server Strategy(Probably OBSD OffTopic)

2012-11-13 Thread Friedrich Locke
Where i wrote listen i really meant accept. On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 9:04 PM, Friedrich Locke friedrich.lo...@gmail.comwrote: Hi folks, i am planning to write a simple web server. My initial ideia for this server is that it will only serve static content. So, i would like to have the best

Re: Unified BSD?

2012-11-13 Thread Julian H. Stacey
- Then came the Unix wars, where ATT sued BSDI (a commercial variant that no longer exists) over perceived copyright infringement. The free BSDs weren't really directly involved, but the suit would have been just as relevant, and people were worried. This was the time that Linux

Re: Internet Connection - Load Balancing and Failover

2012-11-13 Thread David Coppa
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 11:09 PM, Walter Neto wsouz...@gmail.com wrote: Hello guys, I have two internet connections, and I want to make load balancing and failover service, I had read about pf load balancing and multi-path route, what is the difference between them. Which is the better to

fbtab(5) and X11

2012-11-13 Thread Sébastien Marie
Hi, Just a question about fbtab(5) and X11. In the distributed /etc/fbtab (under i386, -current) the file contains: # $OpenBSD: fbtab.head,v 1.2 1999/05/05 06:56:34 deraadt Exp $ # login(1) reads this file to determine which devices should be chown'd to # the new user. Format is: #

Re: Unified BSD?

2012-11-13 Thread Joar Jegleim
I just can't resist the urge to point to this comic strip, which an other FreeBSD users posted regarding : hey let's create a FreeBSD desktop, like Ubuntu did with Unity http://xkcd.com/927/ -- -- Joar Jegleim Homepage: http://cosmicb.no Linkedin:

Re: Gdm and Gnome with OpenBSD 5.2

2012-11-13 Thread Jean-François SIMON
2012/11/12 Antoine Jacoutot ajacou...@bsdfrog.org On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 09:40:51PM +0100, Jean-François SIMON wrote: Dear all, I am sorry, I can't work out finding gdm or running Gnome with OpenBSD 5.2, could someone please send a link or some informations ? I used to have it

Re: Unified BSD?

2012-11-13 Thread Martin
No offense Ignatios Souvatzis but your reference to Minix being a 7th BSD distro is like saying FreeBSD (or any of the other major BSDs) is another Linux because of its inter-compatibility for certain user-land components and various shared code. Minix has a minimal amount of NetBSD code and most

Re: Unified BSD?

2012-11-13 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2012-11-13 11:45, Ignatios Souvatzis wrote: On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 10:08:08AM +0100, Joost van de Griek wrote: On 12 Nov 2012, at 21:37 , Robin Björklin robin.bjork...@gmail.com wrote: Am I bat crap crazy for thinking it could be good to merge the four largest BSD variants out there,

Re: Unified BSD?

2012-11-13 Thread Ignatios Souvatzis
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 10:08:08AM +0100, Joost van de Griek wrote: On 12 Nov 2012, at 21:37 , Robin Björklin robin.bjork...@gmail.com wrote: Am I bat crap crazy for thinking it could be good to merge the four largest BSD variants out there, take the best bits and pieces out of each and

Re: Unified BSD?

2012-11-13 Thread Ignatios Souvatzis
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 01:04:27PM +0100, Lars Engels wrote: MirBSD / MirOS is dead: http://www.freshbsd.org/search?project=mirbsd Last commit: 2011-08-29 23:00:00 I'm no Mir* co-worker, so take this with a grain of salt. But on general principles: a) I question the date itself - that's

Re: Unified BSD?

2012-11-13 Thread Justin Mayes
Yes, your bat crap crazy :-) All of these variants inherit from the same unified BSD 4.4 base code as far as I know. So years ago there were reasons that groups wanted to spilt off and focus on specific goals. Some of these goals are mutually exclusive. These BSD variants are not really

Re: ath or ral?

2012-11-13 Thread Zoran Kolic
After some more researching, I found interesting idea for 8 years old laptop: realtek rtl8191su inside d-link dwa-131 adapter. http://www.undeadly.org/cgi?action=articlesid=20101216231634 My thinkering is that usb adapter uses less power than pcmcia. The driver is rsu. Laptop is HP nx9020 with 2

Re: Unified BSD?

2012-11-13 Thread ill...@gmail.com
On 13 November 2012 07:04, Lars Engels lars.eng...@0x20.net wrote: On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 11:45:11AM +0100, Ignatios Souvatzis wrote: On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 10:08:08AM +0100, Joost van de Griek wrote: On 12 Nov 2012, at 21:37 , Robin Björklin robin.bjork...@gmail.com wrote: Am I bat

Re: Unified BSD?

2012-11-13 Thread Johan Beisser
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 2:45 AM, Ignatios Souvatzis ignat...@cs.uni-bonn.de wrote: At least a sixth, IIRC. You left out MirBSD from your distribution list. Also, you could argue that Minix, with its NetBSD compatibility, is a seventh and MacOS-X, with its partially (Free-/Net-)BSD compatible

Re: Internet Connection - Load Balancing and Failover

2012-11-13 Thread Udo Siewert
On 11/13/12 08:39, Pierre Marchal wrote: Hello, I don't think that trunk is appropriate for this scenario. It is use for OSI level 2 (Ethernet) fail over and/or load balancing but won't be able to load balance traffic between two internet connection, witch involve TCP/IP load balancing. You

Re: Unified BSD?

2012-11-13 Thread Mihai Popescu
The Unified BSD idea is as crazy as the decision to split this discussion on multiple lists. I've quit reading this, but I got the Nick's insights, nice and touching as always.

openldap

2012-11-13 Thread Friedrich Locke
Hi, i remenber when installing (after building it from /usr/ports/database/opendap) openldap the scripts in patch directory create user _openldap and the group too. Now i cannot see any reference to the user/group openldap server process will run as ? Isn't it necessary anymore ? I mean, doesn't

Re: Unified BSD?

2012-11-13 Thread Tim Larson
I know the basic history of all the BSDs and the reasons for divergence, but I've always tended to think of them as different focus areas of a single project. The best ideas tend to get shared around, where applicable, but each retains its unique focus and niche within the greater whole. We don't

Re: Unified BSD?

2012-11-13 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 11:45:11AM +0100, Ignatios Souvatzis wrote: On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 10:08:08AM +0100, Joost van de Griek wrote: On 12 Nov 2012, at 21:37 , Robin Björklin robin.bjork...@gmail.com wrote: Am I bat crap crazy for thinking it could be good to merge the four

LAN - LAN via External IP

2012-11-13 Thread James Chase
I'm trying to find the cleanest solution for correct routing of internal LAN servers to the external IP's of other servers in the same LAN. I have read the OpenBSD FAQ here (http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/rdr.html#reflect ) and mostly understand the problems associated with doing this via some

Re: Internet Connection - Load Balancing and Failover

2012-11-13 Thread Reyk Floeter
Hi, I've read the other replies and there's no need to install any port. Like mentioned before, just use relayd(8) from base with the router option in relayd.conf(5) in combination with multipath routing (sysctl net.inet.ip.multipath=1). You can also use pf with route-to or rtable as a classifier

Re: Unified BSD?

2012-11-13 Thread matthew sporleder
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Robin Björklin robin.bjork...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! First and foremost I'd like to present myself, I'm a young and naive junior sys admin that think people should be able to compromise and see the bigger picture and the good of the cause. Now over to the

Re: LAN - LAN via External IP

2012-11-13 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2012-11-13, James Chase ja...@wintercastle.net wrote: Also, is there some catch all that could be created with rules like this? Currently we are using this on specific services when we want to be able to use the fqdn on a local server without adding the internal ip resolution to /etc/hosts:

Re: Unified BSD?

2012-11-13 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Hi, Reference: From: Johnny Billquist b...@update.uu.se Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 13:34:56 +0100 Message-id: 50a23e70.8010...@update.uu.se Johnny Billquist wrote: On 2012-11-13 11:45, Ignatios Souvatzis wrote: On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 10:08:08AM +0100, Joost van de Griek

Re: Unified BSD?

2012-11-13 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2012-11-13 18:51, Julian H. Stacey wrote: Hi, Reference: From: Johnny Billquist b...@update.uu.se Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 13:34:56 +0100 Message-id: 50a23e70.8010...@update.uu.se Johnny Billquist wrote: On 2012-11-13 11:45, Ignatios Souvatzis wrote: On Tue, Nov 13,

Re: Vendor specific DHCP option codes

2012-11-13 Thread Stuart Henderson
** Moved from sparc@ to misc@; reply-to's set ** On 2012/11/13 23:59, Kaya Saman wrote: Hi, I'm trying to migrate the dhcp configuration from within a Cisco router to OpenBSD. So far everything has gone really smoothly and basic things are working fine. What I'm currently quite stuck

Re: Unified BSD?

2012-11-13 Thread Jacob L. Leifman
yes, you are young, naïve, and 'bat crazy'/idealistic (never could find the difference between these two ;) ... but you are also quite lazy -- had you taken the time to research the history behind the forks and the current stated goals and objectives of each of these OS's, you would see why

Noppoo Mini Choc 84 USB keyboard can not work correctly on OpenBSD 5.2 (loongson)

2012-11-13 Thread yunplusplus
PLATFORM: Yeelong 2F 8089D OS: OpenBSD 5.2 stable PROBLEM: Noppoo Mini Choc 84 USB keyboard do not work correctly on my system. For exampIe, when I type Enter, but get 5 displayed on the screen. When I plug in my Noppoo Mini Choc 84 USB keyboard, the dmesg

Re: Noppoo Mini Choc 84 USB keyboard can not work correctly on OpenBSD 5.2 (loongson)

2012-11-13 Thread Tomas Bodzar
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 6:19 AM, yunplusplus yunplusp...@163.com wrote: PLATFORM: Yeelong 2F 8089D OS: OpenBSD 5.2 stable PROBLEM: Noppoo Mini Choc 84 USB keyboard do not work correctly on my system. For exampIe, when I type Enter, but get 5 displayed

Re: LAN - LAN via External IP

2012-11-13 Thread David Walker
James Chase james () wintercastle ! net If I fully understand your situation a lot of what you do depends on whether you intend to resolve names and whether you can use subnets. In my situation I have a number of servers and internal clients on different subnets with one external public IP

no BIOS memory map supplied

2012-11-13 Thread Jan Stary
With today's i386 snapshot (Nov 14th) and the previous (Nov 11th), the booting bsd goes straight to ddb prompt saying panic: no BIOS memory map supplied This is on a Thinkpad T40. Is anyone else seeing this?

Re: no BIOS memory map supplied

2012-11-13 Thread Jan Stary
On Nov 14 08:35:37, h...@stare.cz wrote: With today's i386 snapshot (Nov 14th) and the previous (Nov 11th), the booting bsd goes straight to ddb prompt saying panic: no BIOS memory map supplied This is on a Thinkpad T40. Is anyone else seeing this? Forgot to add: here is an older

HP Ethernet 1Gb 4-port 331FLR card supported?

2012-11-13 Thread Sebastian Reitenbach
Hi, we have a HP Proliant Server Gen8, where we want to run OpenBSD on it. The card mentioned has to go into the FlexibleLOM port on the server, therefore there is not that much choice of a card. As far as I have seen, this card is not listed in any of the drivers, but I found that link here: