Re: my experience with openbsdstore.com

2015-04-13 Thread Theo de Raadt
> On 12/04/15 15:41, Theo de Raadt wrote: > > I wonder if this is the right moment for me to mention my experiences > > with moving money in Argentina when I was a tourist there during the > > economic problems, more than a decade ago. > > > > I wonder if my story or insight is relevant in any way;

Re: my experience with openbsdstore.com

2015-04-13 Thread Jason Adams
On 04/13/2015 06:08 AM, Peter Hessler wrote: > and easier than cheques. Who said anything about cheques? Stop leaping to conclusions. -- Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.

Re: my experience with openbsdstore.com

2015-04-13 Thread Theo de Raadt
> You seem to be confusing any means of electronic payment with wire > transfers from one bank to another. Please try to focus on the > discussion at hand. I haven't written a check in several years. Please try to focus on the mailing list you are on. Will your commentary change anything, or ar

Re: my experience with openbsdstore.com

2015-04-13 Thread Jason Adams
On 04/12/2015 11:57 PM, Marc Peters wrote: > On 04/12/15 20:12, Jason Adams wrote: >> On 04/11/2015 06:01 AM, IMAP List Administration wrote: >>> The trouble began immediately. I chose electronic wire transfer as the >>> payment >>> method, >> Its not 1929 any more. I'm utterly suprised the store

Re: my experience with openbsdstore.com

2015-04-13 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 14:38:07 +0200 IMAP List Administration wrote: > based on assumption that own system is "best". > > How could anything be simpler than having A instruct A's bank to move funds to > B's bank account? Since I found this out I've always wanted the UK to do the same, this 'modern

Re: my experience with openbsdstore.com

2015-04-13 Thread Peter Hessler
On 2015 Apr 12 (Sun) at 11:12:37 -0700 (-0700), Jason Adams wrote: :In my day job, we refuse wire transfers. We would rather lose a customer than deal :with it unless the invoice is several thousand dollars. Its too much work (on both ends) :and one never gets the invoice amount, as the banks c

Re: my experience with openbsdstore.com

2015-04-13 Thread IMAP List Administration
On 04/12/2015 08:12 PM, Jason Adams wrote: > On 04/11/2015 06:01 AM, IMAP List Administration wrote: >> The trouble began immediately. I chose electronic wire transfer as the >> payment >> method, > Its not 1929 any more. I'm utterly suprised the store still offers wire > transfer. > > In my day

Re: my experience with openbsdstore.com

2015-04-13 Thread Joel Rees
erk. I should keep my hands away from the keyboard when I have a head cold. On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 8:16 PM, Joel Rees wrote: > FWIW, > > [...] > > in Japan and (IIRC) the US, there is wire transfer, which is more or > less as Jason describes, and electronic transfer, which is much more > reasona

Re: my experience with openbsdstore.com

2015-04-13 Thread Joel Rees
FWIW, On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 3:12 AM, Jason Adams wrote: > On 04/11/2015 06:01 AM, IMAP List Administration wrote: >> The trouble began immediately. I chose electronic wire transfer as the >> payment >> method, > > Its not 1929 any more. I'm utterly suprised the store still offers wire > trans

Re: my experience with openbsdstore.com

2015-04-13 Thread Marcus MERIGHI
my discussions with were lengthy (2014-10-06 - 20014-10-22) because I ordered two CD-Sets and wanted only one to be shipped. This seemed to puzzle staff over there but no problems with money transfer (via bank, SEPA) or shipping or anything... Bye, Marcus li...@y42.org (IMAP List Administration)

Re: my experience with openbsdstore.com

2015-04-13 Thread Marc Peters
On 04/12/15 20:12, Jason Adams wrote: > On 04/11/2015 06:01 AM, IMAP List Administration wrote: >> The trouble began immediately. I chose electronic wire transfer as the >> payment >> method, > > Its not 1929 any more. I'm utterly suprised the store still offers wire > transfer. > > In my day

Re: my experience with openbsdstore.com

2015-04-12 Thread Theo de Raadt
> 2015-04-12 20:12 GMT+02:00 Jason Adams : > > On 04/11/2015 06:01 AM, IMAP List Administration wrote: > >> The trouble began immediately. I chose electronic wire transfer as the > >> payment > >> method, > > > > Its not 1929 any more. I'm utterly suprised the store still offers > > wire transfer.

Re: my experience with openbsdstore.com

2015-04-12 Thread Martin Schröder
2015-04-12 20:12 GMT+02:00 Jason Adams : > On 04/11/2015 06:01 AM, IMAP List Administration wrote: >> The trouble began immediately. I chose electronic wire transfer as the >> payment >> method, > > Its not 1929 any more. I'm utterly suprised the store still offers > wire transfer. Not everyone l

Re: my experience with openbsdstore.com

2015-04-12 Thread Jason Adams
On 04/11/2015 06:01 AM, IMAP List Administration wrote: > The trouble began immediately. I chose electronic wire transfer as the payment > method, Its not 1929 any more. I'm utterly suprised the store still offers wire transfer. In my day job, we refuse wire transfers. We would rather lose a c

Re: my experience with openbsdstore.com

2015-04-11 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2015-04-11, IMAP List Administration wrote: > I am requested to provide bank details. Fair enough. I provide my IBAN (int'l > bank account number) and BIC/SWIFT (unique bank ID) details. These two items > are > sufficient to transfer money *anywhere* within the EU (In fact, the IBAN alone > is

Re: my experience with openbsdstore.com

2015-04-11 Thread Martin Schröder
2015-04-11 17:08 GMT+02:00 Bernd Schoeller : > As a little defence to the OpenBSD store guys: the banking system in the UK > is by far the crappiest I have seen in whole of Europe. The banks are all Small wonder since Airstrip One seems to believe it's not in Europe. Maybe the OpenBSD store shoul

Re: my experience with openbsdstore.com

2015-04-11 Thread Gareth Nelson
Can openbsdstore start taking bitcoin? --- “Lanie, I’m going to print more printers. Lots more printers. One for everyone. That’s worth going to jail for. That’s worth anything.” - Printcrime by Cory Doctrow Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/

Re: my experience with openbsdstore.com

2015-04-11 Thread Bernd Schoeller
On 11/04/15 14:01, IMAP List Administration wrote: Transfer Costs More Than Refund The next missive from openbsdstore.com was: Hopefully you should have received the €15 sent by post - unfortunately we had to send it in this way, as our bank wanted