Re: where is the image of openbsd arm ?

2016-06-25 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2016-06-24, Jacob L. Leifman wrote: > Is it possible to add more wired NICs to the APU? Yes, it has two USB ports.

Re: where is the image of openbsd arm ?

2016-06-25 Thread lists
Sat, 25 Jun 2016 12:20:04 +0200 Paolo Aglialoro > Just had a look to kontron. > > This ARM model operates from -40°C to +85°C, simply unbelievable. > > [http://www.kontron.com/industries/automation/motherboards/pitx/ktam3874-pitx .html] I could also recommend a review of all

Re: where is the image of openbsd arm ?

2016-06-25 Thread Paolo Aglialoro
Just had a look to kontron. This ARM model operates from -40°C to +85°C, simply unbelievable. http://www.kontron.com/industries/automation/motherboards/pitx/ktam3874-pitx. html

Re: where is the image of openbsd arm ?

2016-06-24 Thread lists
Looks like, it's the same message 2nd time, lets add more insomniac fun bits. Who am I kidding, you'll figure the spelling without reading help. Oh, wait, has anyone tried any product from this company? And I have another question, Wikipedia: Kontron AG [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kontron]

Re: where is the image of openbsd arm ?

2016-06-24 Thread lists
Sat, 25 Jun 2016 09:03:05 +1000 > On Fri, 24 Jun 2016 06:32:33 +0300 > li...@wrant.com wrote: > > > Fri, 24 Jun 2016 12:10:11 +1000 > > > On Fri, 24 Jun 2016 04:30:39 +0300 > > > li...@wrant.com wrote: > > > > > > > > What is more

Re: where is the image of openbsd arm ?

2016-06-24 Thread lists
Sat, 25 Jun 2016 01:46:47 +0200 arrowscr...@mail.com > Too much noise folks. > Hardware discussion does not belong to misc@. Please try go to other > mailing list, maybe people in openbsd-arm will like this hardware > related discussion, but not here. Thanks. Hahaa, now we're talking. Open a can

Re: where is the image of openbsd arm ?

2016-06-24 Thread lists
Fri, 24 Jun 2016 23:30:37 + (UTC) Christian Weisgerber > On 2016-06-24, Chris Cappuccio wrote: > > >> Walking on the wild side, I suppose something could be done with a > >> switch and vlans. > > > > Yeah, but now your switch is using ten times the

Re: where is the image of openbsd arm ?

2016-06-24 Thread David Vasek
On Fri, 24 Jun 2016, Christian Weisgerber wrote: On 2016-06-24, "Jacob L. Leifman" wrote: Is it possible to add more wired NICs to the APU? Not really. You could add more ports with a mini-PCIe dual/quad NIC, but you would have to build your own case. As there are

Re: where is the image of openbsd arm ?

2016-06-24 Thread bytevolcano
On Fri, 24 Jun 2016 06:32:33 +0300 li...@wrant.com wrote: > Fri, 24 Jun 2016 12:10:11 +1000 > > On Fri, 24 Jun 2016 04:30:39 +0300 > > li...@wrant.com wrote: > > > > > > What is more important is the level of engineering information > > > available from the

Re: where is the image of openbsd arm ?

2016-06-24 Thread lists
Sat, 25 Jun 2016 01:23:25 +0200 Christian Weisgerber > David Vasek: > > > As there are two USB ports, any USB-attached ethernet adapter should work. > > With a powered USB hub, probably a number of them. Am I right? > > If you are desperate enough. > > There's a dual

Re: where is the image of openbsd arm ?

2016-06-24 Thread arrowscript
Too much noise folks. Hardware discussion does not belong to misc@. Please try go to other mailing list, maybe people in openbsd-arm will like this hardware related discussion, but not here. Thanks.

Re: where is the image of openbsd arm ?

2016-06-24 Thread Christian Weisgerber
On 2016-06-24, Chris Cappuccio wrote: >> Walking on the wild side, I suppose something could be done with a >> switch and vlans. > > Yeah, but now your switch is using ten times the power of your router. There are small managed switches that have a size and power profile

Re: where is the image of openbsd arm ?

2016-06-24 Thread Christian Weisgerber
David Vasek: > As there are two USB ports, any USB-attached ethernet adapter should work. > With a powered USB hub, probably a number of them. Am I right? If you are desperate enough. There's a dual axen(4) adapter in one package:

Re: where is the image of openbsd arm ?

2016-06-24 Thread bytevolcano
On Fri, 24 Jun 2016 06:32:33 +0300 li...@wrant.com wrote: > Fri, 24 Jun 2016 12:10:11 +1000 > > On Fri, 24 Jun 2016 04:30:39 +0300 > > li...@wrant.com wrote: > > > > > > What is more important is the level of engineering information > > > available from the

Re: where is the image of openbsd arm ?

2016-06-24 Thread lists
Fri, 24 Jun 2016 14:37:20 -0700 Chris Cappuccio > Jacob L. Leifman [jac...@bitwise.net] wrote: > > Is it possible to add more wired NICs to the APU? Alternatively, is > > there a comparably robust and OpenBSD supported low-wattage platform > > with at least 4 (and preferrably

Re: where is the image of openbsd arm ?

2016-06-24 Thread Chris Cappuccio
Ted Unangst [t...@tedunangst.com] wrote: > Jacob L. Leifman wrote: > > Is it possible to add more wired NICs to the APU? Alternatively, is > > there a comparably robust and OpenBSD supported low-wattage platform > > with at least 4 (and preferrably 5-6) NICs? > > Walking on the wild side, I

Re: where is the image of openbsd arm ?

2016-06-24 Thread Ted Unangst
Jacob L. Leifman wrote: > Is it possible to add more wired NICs to the APU? Alternatively, is > there a comparably robust and OpenBSD supported low-wattage platform > with at least 4 (and preferrably 5-6) NICs? Walking on the wild side, I suppose something could be done with a switch and vlans.

Re: where is the image of openbsd arm ?

2016-06-24 Thread Christian Weisgerber
On 2016-06-24, "Jacob L. Leifman" wrote: > Is it possible to add more wired NICs to the APU? Not really. You could add more ports with a mini-PCIe dual/quad NIC, but you would have to build your own case. The APU2 is at a very sweet price/performance spot *if* it fits your

Re: where is the image of openbsd arm ?

2016-06-24 Thread Chris Cappuccio
Jacob L. Leifman [jac...@bitwise.net] wrote: > Is it possible to add more wired NICs to the APU? Alternatively, is > there a comparably robust and OpenBSD supported low-wattage platform > with at least 4 (and preferrably 5-6) NICs? > It has two mini pci-e slots. Syba and others make a mini

Re: where is the image of openbsd arm ?

2016-06-24 Thread Jacob L. Leifman
Is it possible to add more wired NICs to the APU? Alternatively, is there a comparably robust and OpenBSD supported low-wattage platform with at least 4 (and preferrably 5-6) NICs? Thank you. On 24 Jun 2016 at 13:37, Chris Cappuccio wrote: > li...@wrant.com [li...@wrant.com] wrote: > > > >

Re: where is the image of openbsd arm ?

2016-06-24 Thread Chris Cappuccio
li...@wrant.com [li...@wrant.com] wrote: > > 1) How do the APU systems go as pricing to comparable systems from > other similar (industrial class, desktop enclosure) manufacturers? > The pricing direct from PC Engines is roughly 2x to 3x the cost of certain cheap, popular ARM boards. It's on

Re: where is the image of openbsd arm ?

2016-06-24 Thread Chris Cappuccio
bytevolc...@safe-mail.net [bytevolc...@safe-mail.net] wrote: > > In addition, the clips for the mSATA/mPCIe slots, given that the use of > metallic screw points would improve grounding to the devices and would > be a lot more robust and resilient against vibration; with screw posts, > there is

Re: where is the image of openbsd arm ?

2016-06-24 Thread Karel Gardas
On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 1:49 AM, Chris Cappuccio wrote: > The APU2 is a 4 core system while the APU1 is 2 core. The APU1 is actually > marginally faster at "openssl speed", per-core. The APU2 has USB3, better > ethernet. It also has an integrated CPU/chipset, which practically

Re: where is the image of openbsd arm ?

2016-06-23 Thread bytevolcano
On Fri, 24 Jun 2016 04:30:39 +0300 li...@wrant.com wrote: > > What is more important is the level of engineering information > available from the manufacturer (PC Engines) web site including tech > specs, manual, BIOS updates, accessories, enclosures, diag boards and > also: Schematics! I

Re: where is the image of openbsd arm ?

2016-06-23 Thread lists
Fri, 24 Jun 2016 12:10:11 +1000 > On Fri, 24 Jun 2016 04:30:39 +0300 > li...@wrant.com wrote: > > > > What is more important is the level of engineering information > > available from the manufacturer (PC Engines) web site including tech > > specs, manual, BIOS

Re: where is the image of openbsd arm ?

2016-06-23 Thread lists
Thu, 23 Jun 2016 16:49:20 -0700 Chris Cappuccio > li...@wrant.com [li...@wrant.com] wrote: > > > http://www.pcengines.ch provide machine using from 5W for alix to 12W > > > for APU. These number are value under full load, not idle. > > > > You know, these x86 machines in

Re: where is the image of openbsd arm ?

2016-06-23 Thread Chris Cappuccio
li...@wrant.com [li...@wrant.com] wrote: > > http://www.pcengines.ch provide machine using from 5W for alix to 12W > > for APU. These number are value under full load, not idle. > > You know, these x86 machines in their space saving enclosures make the > perfect quiet 24/7 home (office) tabletop

Re: where is the image of openbsd arm ?

2016-06-23 Thread lists
> http://www.pcengines.ch provide machine using from 5W for alix to 12W > for APU. These number are value under full load, not idle. You know, these x86 machines in their space saving enclosures make the perfect quiet 24/7 home (office) tabletop gateway server system. Cool! Your other next best

Re: where is the image of openbsd arm ?

2016-06-23 Thread ludovic coues
2016-06-23 3:52 GMT+02:00 Tuyosi Takesima <nakajin.fu...@gmail.com>: > Hi all . > > i now use arm linux as server . > because it needs 5W , so its cost as 24Hr server is very low > and > it's root can be put in hard disk , so big space can be get . > > whe

Re: where is the image of openbsd arm ?

2016-06-22 Thread Predrag Punosevac
http://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/armv7/ http://www.openbsd.org/armv7.html

where is the image of openbsd arm ?

2016-06-22 Thread Tuyosi Takesima
Hi all . i now use arm linux as server . because it needs 5W , so its cost as 24Hr server is very low and it's root can be put in hard disk , so big space can be get . where is the image of openbsd arm ? ( raspberry pi , pine64 or other ) --- regards