H*LL! I didn't even know that there WAS a mod_perl 1.22. :( Umm, where
was this announced? It would have been nice if it were announced ON the web
site! No mention anywhere of what version is current that I could find.
Oh well. When I have the time, I guess I'll get to play with it and
On Thu, 30 Mar 2000, Stas Bekman wrote:
The candidates I've been thinking about are php, python, perlex,
fastcgi. Camelot thought that java would fit in, I'm not sure about
this, but it can bring more people and sponsors. Other mainstream
scripting languages/technologies we might think
Hello all.
What exactly means this error (from my error_log )
"Attempt to free non-existent shared string during global destruction. "
It is from a big CGI ported in mod_perl. Unfortunately i haven't written it
(the CGI, not mod_perl :-) ) and i'd like to have some more explication on
this
on 3/30/00 3:07 PM, Stas Bekman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Therefore I've suggested to hold a "Server Side Web App Dev using
Scripting Languages" conference (you think of a shorter and nicer name
:) So we want to invite speakers from all "mainstream" camps that use
scripting languages for
on 3/31/00 2:43 PM, raptor at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
HTTP_USER_AGENT :
IE3.x,4.x,5,5.5
NN3.x,4.x
may be other too...
W3C maybe ?
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On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, Bill Jones wrote:
How about calling it 'WebDev Scripting Conference' ?
That doesn't mean it is a server-side centric conference. Under that
title, JavaScript and ActiveX fit.
Cover these key technologies: mod_perl, php, expect (tcl-lets),
python (these four primarily)
I think the idea of a Web Developers conference for Open Source
technologies is a good idea. ApacheCon was a good technical
conference, but not as much for the content providers as the
system providers.
The people that actually put a site together usually don't
care what the system is as long
Jeff,
These issues are very resent in the archives of the mailing list.
Did you look there?
Did you look on CPAN for the latest copy of mod_perl?
I have mod_perl 1.22 with Apache 1.3.12 and Perl 5.6 on Linux with kernel
2.0.35 with libs that are just as old. This includes a large number of
I have followed the example in "Writing Apache Modules in Perl and C".
The module Apache::ESSI is working fine for a virtual site (development
site), but it does not work for the main (non-virutal) site. Here a bit
of my httpd.conf:
-
Just want to gripe and warn others about the fact that if you elect to
upgrade CPAN.pm it also installs perl 5.6
Don't go and get coffee if you MCPAN the upgrade!
grrr!
Why not try RedHat v6.1? Installing it is a snap! I had it up running in no time.
After installing the rpm file for mod_perl, just follow the directions to activate it
in the /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf then reboot to activate the changes if your a former
Windows user.;-)
No need to recompile
I have followed the example in "Writing Apache Modules in Perl and C".
The module Apache::ESSI is working fine for a virtual site (development
site), but it does not work for the main (non-virutal) site. Here a bit
of my httpd.conf:
-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just want to gripe and warn others about the fact that if you elect to
upgrade CPAN.pm it also installs perl 5.6
Don't go and get coffee if you MCPAN the upgrade!
This does not seem to be the case anymore with the recent version of
CPAN.pm (the "real" 1.54 - not
"GY" == Geoffrey Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
GY PerlFreshRestart causes a great many problems, most for indeterminate
GY reasons, but its behavior is at least documented
I'm curious, now with the new code in 1.22 that dl_unloads all of the
perl XS modules and with the perl shared object
Has anyone run into this yet?
DBI-connect failed: [iODBC][Driver Manager]Function sequence error
(SQL-S1010)(DBD: dbd_db_login/SQLSetConnectOption err=-1) at test.cgi line 8
Died at test.cgi line 8.
Line 8...
$conn = DBI-connect("dbi:ODBC:somedatabase") || die;
Traces show a connect, then
Someone had wondered about a name for the conference,
and a way to keep it mod_perly...
...mod_conference...
mod_*
PerlMumbleHandler
certain apache/mod_perl friendly 'dules (Mason,Em?b?perl,Apache::DBI)
if someone is interested the MySQL, CVS, vi and emacs talks
there's an old thread that discusses the code/behavior of PerlFreshRestart
(at least in 1.21):
http://forum.swarthmore.edu/epigone/modperl/peepranbling
in particular that post from Doug near the bottom might help answer whether
a new interpreter is instantiated (I think he is saying no here, but
"DM" == Doug MacEachern [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
DM geez. i don't recall "Apache::Registry vs. pure PerlHandler" or
DM "Apache::Request vs. CGI.pm" ever being so harsh.
Personally, I do all my scripting in Apache::Registry. Why? Because
it is easy, and I don't always have the ability to
On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, Vivek Khera wrote:
My question to all of you who use handlers directly, how do you manage
all your handler mappings? I've seen it done where you add a
Location mapping for each handler you use, which corresponds to each
"program" you need. This, in my experience, tends
this belongs on the DBI user's list:
see
http://www.symbolstone.org/technology/perl/DBI/
for info on subscribing and archives...
-Original Message-
From: Charles Day [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2000 10:39 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Function Sequence
You aren't necessarily the only point of view. At some points (especially
with mod_perl), Apache tracks become interesting to attend. However, more
often my particular job entails me being a programming whore, and so I am
equally interested in Java, Perl, and Microsoft COM/DCOM/ASP technologies
On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, Jeff D. 'Spud (Zeppelin)' Almeida wrote:
I'm also of the opinion that it should JUST be mod_perl, and that "smaller
is better" approach is well-suited to the objectives... after all, who
needs ANOTHER bloody 20,000 attendee tradeshow? Softbank, et al, make
plenty of
"MS" == Matt Sergeant [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
MS On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, Jeff D. 'Spud (Zeppelin)' Almeida wrote:
that that may even be an understatement), then by having it on the East
Coast, all we'd be doing is driving the average-cost-per-attendee up and
the overall attendance down,
On Fri, 31 Mar 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Apache::Conference
I can't decide if it is a good thing or no, seeing as there
might be some confusion that it is really just another
ApacheCon
You have a point. How about:
Apache::PerlConference
?? :)
Hi Jeff,
On Thu, 30 Mar 2000, Jeff Stuart wrote:
Has anyone tried to use mod_perl with perl 5.6 yet? If so, how did it go?
Oh, are we still at 1.21 for mod_perl? If so, when's the next release? I
hear that there are some important memory leak fixes in there.
--
Jeff Stuart
[EMAIL
I really like your ideas, my experience with Oracle, USENIX, and O'Reilly
conferences is that the organizers are generally open to new formats but its
up to the user community to provide the content. If 20 people responded
to the RFP with papers about using Mason or Embperl, then O'Reilly would
Gunthar,
Previous to reading your post I thought I was the least qualified to
comment on the conference . . .
Personally, a tightly focused Apache::mod_perl::conference might actually
get me to move away from a keyboard.
PS: I don't want to be a programming whore, and if I did I wouldn't
On 31-Mar-00 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gunthar,
Previous to reading your post I thought I was the least qualified to
comment on the conference . . .
That was so uncalled for.
Actually it was intended to be self-depracating as well.
Personally, a tightly focused
Anyone know of any mod_perl-based applications for signing up for events?
This one is to handle the scheduling of workshops which may be in offered
in a number of different locations, for 1/2 to three day workshops, and
deals with waiting lists and perhaps billing.
Thanks,
Bill Moseley
Easy to get people to pay to be tutored by gurus.
add Gerald Richter to the list since i use embperl at my
place.
sign me up right now if you can get their participation.
"J. Horner" wrote:
On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, Bill Jones wrote:
How about calling it 'WebDev Scripting Conference' ?
That
A new release of Apache::iNcom is available from
http://indev.insu.com/iNcom/incom.html
Important changes with this release :
- Possibility to serialize requests in the same session.
- Automatic garbage collection of expired sessions.
- New input filters
- Bug
Well, as I mentioned to someone else, I've been off the list for a while.
It would have been nice if it there were something similar to what the
Apache and Perl sites do. IE current version is X.XX. That way, one can
know at a glance what the current stable version of the software is.
--
Jeff
I run a server with a lot of modules, each of which defines a handler for
one file type, processor or output type.
Loading all of these immediately any new child starts is not cheap. Is
there any way to do a conditional 'use' on demand of these modules, as I
may serve a lot of requests without
I've installed perl 5.6.0 + Apache 1.3.12 + modperl 1.22.
An arbitrary request causes the httpd to core dump:
$ telnet localhost 80
Trying 127.0.0.1...
Connected to localhost.
Escape character is '^]'.
GET / HTTP/1.0
Connection closed by foreign host.
This gets into the error log:
[Fri Mar 31
USENIX organizes conferences all over the US and their program is in
the same cost range.
Don't get me wrong, I'm on the East Coast and I love the chance to
go West for "vacation" but I can also see why the Europeans might
prefer an East Coast site. Of course, the APAC folks probably prefer
redhat 6.1 's apxs is broken
i had to recomple apache to get it to work in dso mode
Buddy Lee Haystack wrote:
Why not try RedHat v6.1? Installing it is a snap! I had it up running in no time.
After installing the rpm file for mod_perl, just follow the directions to activate it
in the
On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, John D Groenveld wrote:
Site selection is never going to please everyone, that's
why varying it from year to year is the friendliest solution.
Don't confuse "friendly" with "politically expedient". I've been to
conferences that do it both ways, one static location and
"Z" == Zeppelin Jeff writes:
Z If you spend a week a year in Vegas over a couple of consecutive years,
Z you'll rapidly become an expert at "How to attend a conference in Vegas."
Good point. Let's move the conferences to Grand Cayman, then, since I
just spent a week familiarizing myself with
hmm
the only thing i can think of is maybe the updates you installed fixed
the prob
two months ago none of their upgrade apache rpm's didnt fix
it then
oh well
Buddy Lee Haystack wrote:
That's peculiar. Must be a case of beginners luck, because mine worked fine on the
first try, and I'm
"Vivek" == Vivek Khera [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
"Z" == Zeppelin Jeff writes:
Z If you spend a week a year in Vegas over a couple of consecutive years,
Z you'll rapidly become an expert at "How to attend a conference in Vegas."
Vivek Good point. Let's move the conferences to Grand Cayman,
how about:
require Module;
cliff
Shevek wrote:
I run a server with a lot of modules, each of which defines a handler for
one file type, processor or output type.
Loading all of these immediately any new child starts is not cheap. Is
there any way to do a conditional 'use' on demand of
was everything compiled from scratch with the same compiler?
cliff rayman
genwax.com
Tobias Brox wrote:
I've installed perl 5.6.0 + Apache 1.3.12 + modperl 1.22.
An arbitrary request causes the httpd to core dump:
$ telnet localhost 80
Trying 127.0.0.1...
Connected to localhost.
Escape
Hi Tobias,
I ran into something like this which was being caused by a bug
in one of my scripts. In the previous versions of Apache and
mod_perl the script just didn't work quite right, but now it
core dumped. If you have tried this already, I would suggest
turning of all of your handlers,
I just installed mod_perl using these instructions (from INSTALL.apaci):
$ gunzip apache_1.3.X.tar.gz | tar xvf -
$ gunzip mod_perl-1.X.tar.gz | tar xvf -
$ cd mod_perl-1.X
$ perl Makefile.PL \
APACHE_PREFIX=/path/to/install/of/apache \
APACHE_SRC=../apache-1.3.X/src \
Just wanted to give kudos to whoever built the DSO support for mod_perl. I just
built mod_perl as a DSO under Solaris so I could add it to a server already
running the Cold Fusion DSO and everything worked like a charm.
Thanks a bunch to whoever did that stuff!
---
Jason Bodnar + [EMAIL
On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, Vivek Khera wrote:
My question to all of you who use handlers directly, how do you manage
all your handler mappings? I've seen it done where you add a
Location mapping for each handler you use, which corresponds to each
"program" you need. This, in my experience, tends
Hi,
How do you make perl script (either on Linux+Apache+Mod_perl
or in NT+IIS4 environment) make a "Connection: Keep-Alive".
On both environment, the connections always closes after the
perl script finished execution.
Any idea?
Jaime
If you're referring to a database connection, the Apache DBI module
keeps the connection alive, not the mod_perl module.
Jaime Teng wrote:
Hi,
How do you make perl script (either on Linux+Apache+Mod_perl
or in NT+IIS4 environment) make a "Connection: Keep-Alive".
On both environment,
On Thu, 30 Mar 2000, Rodney Broom (OE) wrote:
U guess. Lots of weird little errors that I can't quite resolve. I can get
Apache installed, but if I build with mod_perl, I can't get cgi or indexing
to work. They just spit out segment fault errors.
if you could follow the hints in the SUPPORT
r u talking about db persistence?
postgres does concurrent persistence checking
what does this mean?
it means it handles the whole db in such a way that coding persistence
into your perl progs really isnt nessecary
as postgres handles it all for youn automagically
btw anyone notice how
On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, Paolo Tealdi wrote:
Hello all.
What exactly means this error (from my error_log )
"Attempt to free non-existent shared string during global destruction. "
It is from a big CGI ported in mod_perl. Unfortunately i haven't written it
(the CGI, not mod_perl :-) ) and
On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, Vivek Khera wrote:
"GY" == Geoffrey Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
GY PerlFreshRestart causes a great many problems, most for indeterminate
GY reasons, but its behavior is at least documented
I'm curious, now with the new code in 1.22 that dl_unloads all of the
After having compiled mod_perl and apache together, shouldn't mod_perl be
enabled in httpd.conf? It isn't. Have I done things correctly?
no, you need to add the mod_perl configuration to httpd.conf yourself.
Well, then I won't be able to go, since I'm still on probation, and
can't get out of the US. sigh
Down here in Miami could be a semi-tropical substitute ;-)
my .02
Bill
--
Bill Desjardins - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (USA) 305.205.8644
Unix/Network Administration - Perl/Mod_Perl/DB Development
tom, my direct reply to you bounced, but this should probably be on the
list anyhow...
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nope. im not referring to database connection.
im referring to the HTTP's "Connection: Keep-Alive"
wherein the browser and the server maintains a socket
connection even after the perl script finished execution.
jaime
At 05:33 PM 3/31/00 -0500, Buddy Lee Haystack wrote:
If you're referring to a
Hello Dr. Frog!
Any relation to Kermit?
I'm not sure Jaime is referring to PostgreSQL [my favorite open source DB] in
particular, or even database persistence in general.
Clayton Cottingham aka DrFrog wrote:
r u talking about db persistence?
postgres does concurrent persistence
At 06:40 AM 4/1/00 +0800, Jaime Teng wrote:
nope. im not referring to database connection.
im referring to the HTTP's "Connection: Keep-Alive"
wherein the browser and the server maintains a socket
connection even after the perl script finished execution.
jaime
Keep-Alive is a function of the
"DM" == Doug MacEachern [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
DM mod_perl dso will do a full tear-down (perl_destruct()), regardless of
DM PerlFreshRestart (which still behaves the same old way)
Implying that PerlFreshRestart is ignored when mod_perl is DSO.
Correct? If so, then it should be an error or
tom, my direct reply to you bounced, but this should probably be on the
list anyhow...
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Hm...
I successfully installed the latest versions of Perl, Apache, mod_perl, CGI.pm,
and Apache::ASP on my linux machine.
I did the 'make test' for mod_perl, I can see the the site/eg directory for
Apache::ASP, and all .asp pages are displayed, except one, the one demonstrating
the use of CGI.pm
Ok, simple question. How to I modify the URI that gets logged? I
understand how to write it to a different file and/or to a DBI, I just
want to modify what's written to the standard access log.
I want the URI set to a file that doesn't exist, but in a format that a
log analyser and I can
I just tested my keep-alive via telnet as you suggested.
I am using embperl and mod_perl.
I was able to make three separate requests on the same connection
without a problem.
Here is a copy of one of the headers:
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 23:59:53 GMT
Server: Apache/1.3.9 (Unix)
Tom Christiansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I would like to console people against using the fancy IO
modules, or at least, not to do so without knowing what they're
getting into. Look at where we are now:
% wc `perl -MIO -e 'print join("\n", sort values %INC, "")'`
[snip]
The
IO provides a needed, though costly, OO interface to
most system calls.
Huh? No, it doesn't.
--tom
Tom Christiansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
IO provides a needed, though costly, OO interface to
most system calls.
Huh? No, it doesn't.
I stand corrected. OO interface to _many_ _I/O_ system calls.
Better, or do you object to the "needed" part?
Chip
--
Chip Turner
Huh? No, it doesn't.
I stand corrected. OO interface to _many_ _I/O_ system calls.
Better, or do you object to the "needed" part?
Rather. It's nearly completely gratuitous.
--tom
Let me be more descriptive. IO.xs has some useful features.
Most of the IO::*.pm modules do not, especially Handle and File.
Here's all you need from the low-level IO.xs stuff, the things that
aren't in straight Perl (although some can be done, but less
conveniently):
require IO::Handle;
my pages end in '.htm' but they are
dynamically generated.
cliff rayman
genwax.com
Jaime Teng wrote:
At 04:05 PM 3/31/00 -0800, Cliff Rayman wrote:
I just tested my keep-alive via telnet as you suggested.
I am using embperl and mod_perl.
I was able to make three separate requests on the
At 04:48 PM 3/31/00 -0800, Cliff Rayman wrote:
my pages end in '.htm' but they are
dynamically generated.
how'd you do it?
can you send me a copy of your http.conf file?
at least the ones that deals with the ".htm" file extensions
and the server config group.
what I have is:
Timeout 300
I remember that SlashCode (The ModPerl scripts that run Slashdot.org) has a
big listing of HTTP_USER_AGENT's in it. You might want to head over to
www.slashcode.com and get SlashCode and find it in there. Its a small
download.
--
Jason Murphy
System Administrator
Lawinfo.com
1-800-397-3743
At 04:48 PM 3/31/00 -0800, Cliff Rayman wrote:
my pages end in '.htm' but they are
dynamically generated.
ps.
are these ".htm" generated by perl?
you mentioned embperl... I dont use embperl.
I strictly use a ".pl" file there must be an
execution difference there making your situation
different
here are my relevant httpd.conf settings
--- snip ---
Timeout 300
KeepAlive On
MaxKeepAliveRequests 100
KeepAliveTimeout 15
MinSpareServers 5
MaxSpareServers 10
StartServers 5
MaxClients 50
MaxRequestsPerChild 300
BrowserMatch "Mozilla/2" nokeepalive
BrowserMatch "MSIE 4\.0b2;"
these are all generated thru embperl.
cliff
Jaime Teng wrote:
At 04:48 PM 3/31/00 -0800, Cliff Rayman wrote:
my pages end in '.htm' but they are
dynamically generated.
ps.
are these ".htm" generated by perl?
you mentioned embperl... I dont use embperl.
I strictly use a ".pl" file
At 05:05 PM 3/31/00 -0800, Cliff Rayman wrote:
these are all generated thru embperl.
cliff
I guess i'll have to install HTML::Embperl to see if it solves my problem.
Unless anyone can show me a solution using Apache::Registry
i prefer to use strict perl program to generate the HTML pages.
I
how are you sending your headers?
$r-send_cgi_header OR $r-send_http_header('text/html');
is the child that serves the request surviving or is it
dying directly after?
cliff rayman
genwax.com
Jaime Teng wrote:
At 05:05 PM 3/31/00 -0800, Cliff Rayman wrote:
these are all generated thru
At 05:19 PM 3/31/00 -0800, you wrote:
my understanding is that you _must_ know the message size in advance and
generate all the appropriate headers (one of them being the size of the
body to follow ... and that's very important since there is no otherway to
know when the whole body has been
At 05:22 PM 3/31/00 -0800, you wrote:
how are you sending your headers?
$r-send_cgi_header OR $r-send_http_header('text/html');
i dont use CGI.pm.
all output is first sent to a single variable: $HTTP
ie,
$HTTP .= "Content-type: text/html\n\n";
$HTTP .= "HTML\n";
$HTTP .= "/HTML\n";
then at
At 05:19 PM 3/31/00 -0800, you wrote:
my understanding is that you _must_ know the message size in advance and
generate all the appropriate headers (one of them being the size of the
body to follow ... and that's very important since there is no otherway to
know when the whole body has been
Jeff, I think you are right about this when the conferences not only vary
east coast/west coast, but vary locations on the east and west coast.
However, the conferences that I've attended that have gone through one cycle
of this are usually pretty good. eg SANS always seem to alternate East/West
- Original Message -
From: "Doug MacEachern" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
if you could follow the hints in the SUPPORT doc for getting a stacktrace,
that would help a great deal.
Sure, I'll see what info I can get without tampering with current working
installations.
Rodney
Hi all,
If I want to intercept the output of the php pages in modperl, how
should I do?
For example, I have a apache module that can add a footer to each page,
consider the following php script:
htmlbody
?php echo "Hello, World!"; ?
/body/html
which will produce the following content to the
I posted this already, but haven't seen it come across so I'm trying
again. Please forgive me if you've seen it before.
I'm trying to build mod_perl as a DSO under Solaris 2.6 with Perl 5.6.0
and I'm having no luck. The system dumps core. I've tried enabling
and disabling expat, I've
I posted this already, but haven't seen it come across so I'm trying
again. Please forgive me if you've seen it before.
I'm trying to build mod_perl as a DSO under Solaris 2.6 with Perl 5.6.0
and I'm having no luck. The system dumps core. I've tried enabling
and disabling expat, I've tried
On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, Paul G. Weiss wrote:
Please help. I've tried many things. I'm building this on
Solaris 2.6.
I'm tring to get mod_perl (1.22) to load as a DSO. It is dieing as
follows:
that's a shame, Perl 5.005_56-ish worked fine as a dso under solaris.
mod_perl's Makefile.PL tries
-Original Message-
From: Graham Barr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2000 3:12 AM
To: Geoffrey Young
Cc: 'Ask Bjoern Hansen'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; 'Stas Bekman'; 'darren
chamberlain'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Re: [new module] proposal Apache::DebugHeaders
On Thu, Mar 30, 2000 at 04:07:38PM -0500, Geoffrey Young wrote:
Hey, I'm not trying to redo anyone's work or step on toes...
I am sure your not, but on the other hand when two modules are so
close in functionality it can help to merge them. There are
several reasons why this can be benificial,
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