Re: Mod_perl component based architecture

2001-10-17 Thread Claudio Garcia
Michael wrote: > Are any of the packages mentioned particularly suited to client > content management packages where the client can manage some > limeted page content text/graphics but not really mess with the > overall page layout and site content. I'm about to start researching > this but would

RE: Mod_perl component based architecture

2001-10-17 Thread Matt Sergeant
> -Original Message- > From: Gunther Birznieks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Of course, I am not saying that the line isn't fuzzy > especially if the > template engine is quite powerful (as is the case with Mason > or AxKit). But > there is a line nonetheless, no?? /me removes head

RE: Mod_perl component based architecture

2001-10-17 Thread Matt Sergeant
> -Original Message- > From: Chris Winters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > But if you've been working on and building up a platform for 4+ years > that already does this, then there's very little to be gained and lots > to be lost by moving to an application server. :-) I'd put it slightl

RE: Mod_perl component based architecture

2001-10-17 Thread Matt Sergeant
> -Original Message- > From: Bill Moseley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > I'm just bored with html forms. Seems like I do this kind of > project too > often -- read a record, post, validate, update... Even with good > templating and code reuse between projects I still feel like > I spe

Re: Mod_perl component based architecture

2001-10-16 Thread Rob Nagler
> As for the remaining of the question, I've been wondering for myself if > there is a MVC (model-view-controller) framework for WWW publishing in > Perl ? I gather there exist quite a few for Java, but I couldn't find > anything significant under Perl. Check out http://www.bivio.net/hm/why-bOP

Re: Mod_perl component based architecture

2001-10-16 Thread Gunther Birznieks
At 01:28 PM 10/17/01, Ilya Martynov wrote: > > On Tue, 16 Oct 2001 22:07:47 -0500 (CDT), Dave Rolsky > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > >DR> On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, Gunther Birznieks wrote: > >> I would venture to say that some of the mod_perl-only toolkits have some > >> cases of being better design

Re: Mod_perl component based architecture

2001-10-16 Thread Ilya Martynov
> On Tue, 16 Oct 2001 22:07:47 -0500 (CDT), Dave Rolsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: DR> On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, Gunther Birznieks wrote: >> I would venture to say that some of the mod_perl-only toolkits have some >> cases of being better designed than ours, but they are mostly mod_perl >> only. I

Re: Mod_perl component based architecture

2001-10-16 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, Gunther Birznieks wrote: > I would venture to say that some of the mod_perl-only toolkits have some > cases of being better designed than ours, but they are mostly mod_perl > only. In fact, I don't know if I know any other toolkits than ours that > are not mod_perl only of t

Re: Mod_perl component based architecture

2001-10-16 Thread Gunther Birznieks
At 11:13 PM 10/16/01, Dominique Quatravaux wrote: > > also does modperl support object oriented programming? > > Well yes it does indeed (see any good book on Perl, such as >«advanced Perl programming» from O'Reilly). > > As for the remaining of the question, I've been wondering for myself if

Re: Mod_perl component based architecture

2001-10-16 Thread Chris Winters
* Nick Tonkin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [011016 17:28]: > ... > I guess in general I favor independent component APIs upon which you > can build, a la Apache::Session, rather than the monster > "Application Servers" ... it seems that you get the same effect but > with more control. Of course, I've had t

Re: Mod_perl component based architecture

2001-10-16 Thread Chris Winters
* Bill Moseley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [011016 16:49]: > I'm just bored with html forms. Seems like I do this kind of > project too often -- read a record, post, validate, update... Even > with good templating and code reuse between projects I still feel > like I spend a lot of time re-inventing the

Re: Mod_perl component based architecture

2001-10-16 Thread Nick Tonkin
I do almost nothing but the kind of work you are describing, including a comprehesive student record management system for a large California College. I find that providing a custom interface to data is a lot more like static content than dynamic when it comes to design. My apps tend to look more

Re: Mod_perl component based architecture

2001-10-16 Thread Bill Moseley
I've been looking at OpenInteract, too. I've got a project where about 100 people need to edit records in a database via a web-based interface. And I'd like history tracking of changes (something like CVS provides, where it's easy to see diffs and to back out changes). And I need access control

Re: Mod_perl component based architecture

2001-10-16 Thread Chris Winters
* Michael ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [011016 15:37]: > Are any of the packages mentioned particularly suited to client > content management packages where the client can manage some limeted > page content text/graphics but not really mess with the overall page > layout and site content. I'm about to star

Re: Mod_perl component based architecture

2001-10-16 Thread Brett W. McCoy
On Tue, 16 Oct 2001, Michael wrote: > > Quite a few, as the other posts in thread have already made > > reference to. In addition, there is also CGI::Application, which > > supports templating via HTML::Template and uses an MVC architecture > > as well. > > > Are any of the packages mentioned par

RE: Mod_perl component based architecture

2001-10-16 Thread Henigan, Timothy
Title: RE: Mod_perl component based architecture You should really check out OpenInteract (http://www.openinteract.org).  It sounds like it has a lot of the hooks you're looking for (user management, templates, online content editing, etc) as well as a few you'll be looking

Re: Mod_perl component based architecture

2001-10-16 Thread Brett W. McCoy
On Tue, 16 Oct 2001, Dominique Quatravaux wrote: > As for the remaining of the question, I've been wondering for myself if > there is a MVC (model-view-controller) framework for WWW publishing in > Perl ? I gather there exist quite a few for Java, but I couldn't find > anything significant unde

Re: Mod_perl component based architecture

2001-10-16 Thread Robin Berjon
On Tuesday 16 October 2001 17:13, Dominique Quatravaux wrote: > As for the remaining of the question, I've been wondering for myself if > there is a MVC (model-view-controller) framework for WWW publishing in > Perl ? I gather there exist quite a few for Java, but I couldn't find > anything sign

Re: Mod_perl component based architecture

2001-10-16 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
Gargi Bodke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > hi > i have been asked to suggest an architecture to seperate the business > logic from the html. > how is this done in modperl? i guess by using functions for the business > logic. > is there any other way? By using one of the many available templater

Re: Mod_perl component based architecture

2001-10-16 Thread kyle dawkins
Gargi On October 16, 2001 10:11 am, Gargi Bodke wrote: > i have been asked to suggest an architecture to seperate the business > logic from the html. > how is this done in modperl? i guess by using functions for the business > logic. > is there any other way? Absolutely; mod_perl fully support

Re: Mod_perl component based architecture

2001-10-16 Thread Scott Lanning
On Tue, 16 Oct 2001, Gargi Bodke wrote: > i have been asked to suggest an architecture to seperate the >business logic from the html. how is this done in modperl? i guess >by using functions for the business logic. >is there any other way? Maybe HTML::Mason, http://www.masonhq.com/ >also does m

Re: Mod_perl component based architecture

2001-10-16 Thread Dominique Quatravaux
> also does modperl support object oriented programming? Well yes it does indeed (see any good book on Perl, such as «advanced Perl programming» from O'Reilly). As for the remaining of the question, I've been wondering for myself if there is a MVC (model-view-controller) framework for WWW pu

RE: Mod_perl component based architecture

2001-10-16 Thread Matt Sergeant
> -Original Message- > From: Gargi Bodke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > hi > i have been asked to suggest an architecture to seperate > the business > logic from the html. > how is this done in modperl? i guess by using functions for > the business > logic. > is there any other way?

Re: Mod_perl component based architecture

2001-10-16 Thread Jim Smith
On Tue, Oct 16, 2001 at 07:41:46PM +0530, Gargi Bodke wrote: > hi > i have been asked to suggest an architecture to seperate the business > logic from the html. > how is this done in modperl? i guess by using functions for the business > logic. > is there any other way? There are a large number

Re: Mod_perl component based architecture

2001-10-16 Thread Brett W. McCoy
On Tue, 16 Oct 2001, Gargi Bodke wrote: > i have been asked to suggest an architecture to seperate the > business logic from the html. how is this done in modperl? i guess by > using functions for the business logic. is there any other way? There are several solutions you can explore, that are

Re: Mod_perl component based architecture

2001-10-16 Thread Radovan Semancik
Gargi Bodke wrote: > > hi > i have been asked to suggest an architecture to seperate the business > logic from the html. > how is this done in modperl? i guess by using functions for the business > logic. > is there any other way? > > also does modperl support object oriented programming? One

Mod_perl component based architecture

2001-10-16 Thread Gargi Bodke
hi i have been asked to suggest an architecture to seperate the business logic from the html. how is this done in modperl? i guess by using functions for the business logic. is there any other way? also does modperl support object oriented programming? gargi