Re: New mod_perl Logo

2002-01-31 Thread Paul Cotter
mod_perl is a lousy name. It is causing me a problem. My potential customers have heard of Perl and Apache, MySql and Postgres, but they dot like the idea of perl modifying the Apache processing. It strikes them as tinkering round with the internals and liable to cause problems 'when we

Re: New mod_perl Logo

2002-01-31 Thread brian moseley
On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Paul Cotter wrote: Give it some other marketting name, even if it keeps its original name in places like this. didn't you people read perrin's message? do you think this is the first time this topic has been discussed? do you think it's gonna change doug's mind /this/

Re: New mod_perl Logo

2002-01-31 Thread Issac Goldstand
Jay Lawrence wrote: I looked at some of the candidates at http://wypug.digital-word.com/mod_perl/ must confess I am partial to http://wypug.digital-word.com/mod_perl/logos/louise_bramald_1.jpg so far Thinking camels for Perl and feathers for Apache putting them together all I could see is

Re: New mod_perl Logo

2002-01-31 Thread Gunther Birznieks
How could another name look nice on your resume if they don't know what it is ? Why don't you just nickname mod_perl as something else and then put THAT name on your resume if you are so concerned about naming. At 09:36 PM 1/30/2002, Paul Cotter wrote: mod_perl is a lousy name. It is

Re: New mod_perl Logo

2002-01-31 Thread Gunther Birznieks
At 04:50 PM 1/31/2002, brian moseley wrote: On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Paul Cotter wrote: Give it some other marketting name, even if it keeps its original name in places like this. didn't you people read perrin's message? do you think this is the first time this topic has been discussed? do

Re: New mod_perl Logo

2002-01-31 Thread Ron Savage
position). Cheers Ron Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://savage.net.au/index.html - Original Message - From: Paul Cotter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 12:36 AM Subject: Re: New mod_perl Logo mod_perl is a lousy name. It is causing me

Re: New mod_perl Logo

2002-01-30 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
Ged Haywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi there, On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, Chris Thompson wrote: mod_perl is a lousy name. [snip] mod_perl needs a name. Something marketable, something catchy. How about BigFoot? Sasquatch. -- Dave Hodgkinson, Wizard for Hire

Re: New mod_perl Logo

2002-01-30 Thread Ged Haywood
Hi all, On Tue, 29 Jan 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about BigFoot? Probably not the best for a server application. Might make one think of the footprint involved ... That was one of my points. :) There will be fame although possibly not fortune for the first person to publish

Re: New mod_perl Logo

2002-01-30 Thread Ged Haywood
Hi Ron, On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Ron Savage wrote: In a message dated 30-Jan-02 12:50:50 AM GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How about BigFoot? All these American-style names are verging on the racist. This is world-wide code, not s/$Expletive// American-wide code. But I'm

RE: New mod_perl name was [Re: New mod_perl Logo]

2002-01-30 Thread Joe Breeden
PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 7:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: New mod_perl name was [Re: New mod_perl Logo] how about Everest? Niagara? Multiphase? Slipstream? DigiServer? Pointillion? Web Mammoth? SharpWeb? Web Enterprise? EnterWeb? Ged Haywood wrote: Hi

[OT] Re: New mod_perl Logo

2002-01-30 Thread Stephen Reppucci
: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 12:48 PM Subject: Re: New mod_perl Logo In a message dated 30-Jan-02 12:50:50 AM GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How about BigFoot? Probably not the best for a server application. Might make one think of the footprint involved ... and isn't

RE: [OT] Re: New mod_perl Logo

2002-01-30 Thread Joe Breeden
The last time I looked the Yeti is Himalayan and Nessie is from Scotland. -Original Message- From: Stephen Reppucci [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 9:16 AM To: Ron Savage Cc: mod_perl Subject: [OT] Re: New mod_perl Logo All right -- I know I

Fw: [OT] Re: New mod_perl Logo

2002-01-30 Thread Rod Butcher
- From: Stephen Reppucci [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ron Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: mod_perl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 2:15 AM Subject: [OT] Re: New mod_perl Logo All right -- I know I should just silently delete this, and let it go, but it's like a bad traffic accident

[OT] Re: New mod_perl Logo

2002-01-30 Thread Alex Porras
On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Ron Savage wrote: All these American-style names are verging on the racist. People should instead take into consideration the alternative suggestions you provided...oh wait, nevermind. --Alex

[OT] Re: New mod_perl name was [Re: New mod_perl Logo]

2002-01-30 Thread Joe Schaefer
___cliff rayman___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: how about Everest? Niagara? Multiphase? Slipstream? DigiServer? Pointillion? Web Mammoth? SharpWeb? Web Enterprise? EnterWeb? % perl -wlne 'print if delmopr eq join , sort /./g' dictionary premold % Actually I just wish we could

Re: New mod_perl Logo

2002-01-30 Thread Marceusz
In a message dated 30-Jan-02 6:08:29 AM GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: All these American-style names are verging on the racist. This is world-wide code, not f---ing American-wide code. Don't let the crappy AOL account fool you. Nessie is about 3 hours from here. The Yetti I

Re: New mod_perl Logo

2002-01-30 Thread Robert Landrum
At 4:54 PM -0500 1/30/02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 30-Jan-02 6:08:29 AM GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: All these American-style names are verging on the racist. This is world-wide code, not f---ing American-wide code. Don't let the crappy AOL account fool

[OT] RE: New mod_perl Logo

2002-01-30 Thread Rob Bloodgood
Uhh... the platypus, the wombat, the tazmanian devil, and the emu. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 1:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: New mod_perl Logo In a message dated 30

Re: [OT] RE: New mod_perl Logo

2002-01-30 Thread iain truskett
* Rob Bloodgood ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [31 Jan 2002 09:32]: Uhh... the platypus, the wombat, the tazmanian devil, and the emu. That's 'Tasmanian'. And they're wonderfully cute and vicious brutes. cheers, -- iain. http://eh.org/~koschei/

RE: New mod_perl Logo

2002-01-30 Thread Jay Lawrence
I looked at some of the candidates at http://wypug.digital-word.com/mod_perl/ must confess I am partial to http://wypug.digital-word.com/mod_perl/logos/louise_bramald_1.jpg so far Thinking camels for Perl and feathers for Apache putting them together all I could see is flying camels - is that

Re: New mod_perl Logo

2002-01-29 Thread Robin Berjon
On Tuesday 29 January 2002 19:10, Markus Wichitill wrote: exisiting icons of mod_perl (the camel, Apache feather, eagle, etc), or Please let's not choose one with an ORA animal as the official logo. It's very annoying having to include those stupid copyright notices just because the logo is

RE: New mod_perl Logo

2002-01-29 Thread Jonathan M. Hollin
:: Please let's not choose one with an ORA animal as the :: official logo. It's very annoying having to include those :: stupid copyright notices just because the logo is used on a page. The final logo will be chosen by majority vote. :: And since I've now posted to the list anyway, I can as

Re: New mod_perl Logo

2002-01-29 Thread Markus Wichitill
Note that that makes the only forbidden animal a white-tailed eagle I guess. Any other animal should be ok. The context is Apache and Perl, so wouldn't that include eagle, camel, llama and whatever other book animals I've missed?

Re: New mod_perl Logo

2002-01-29 Thread Michael A Nachbaur
exisiting icons of mod_perl (the camel, Apache feather, eagle, etc), or Please let's not choose one with an ORA animal as the official logo. It's Well, seeing as this would be the new version of mod_perl, I could see it being worth ORA's while to forgo their little copyright nonsense. I'm

Re: New mod_perl Logo

2002-01-29 Thread Mark Fowler
On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, Michael A Nachbaur wrote: Well, seeing as this would be the new version of mod_perl, I could see it being worth ORA's while to forgo their little copyright nonsense. I'm sure, if a really nice design comes up with the mod_perl eagle, that ORA wouldn't mind bending their

Re: New mod_perl Logo

2002-01-29 Thread Chris Thompson
On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, Jonathan M. Hollin wrote: Ideas for logos, banners, powered by-type buttons are all welcome. Well, I'd like to just throw one idea into the mix. It's something that's bugged me for a long time, no better time than the present. mod_perl is a lousy name. There, I've said

Re: New mod_perl Logo

2002-01-29 Thread John Armstrong
I could not agree more. I can not compute how much of my time would have been saved over the last few years had I been able to say something like 'We are using the Orwellian AppSphere 2002 running on Apache' to VC's and management rather then 'Mod Perl'. Perception counts I am

Re: New mod_perl Logo

2002-01-29 Thread Robin Berjon
Hi ct ! On Wednesday 30 January 2002 01:29, Chris Thompson wrote: Well, I'd like to just throw one idea into the mix. It's something that's bugged me for a long time, no better time than the present. mod_perl is a lousy name. There, I've said it. This discussion has occured already. The

New mod_perl name was [Re: New mod_perl Logo]

2002-01-29 Thread ___cliff rayman___
how about Everest? Niagara? Multiphase? Slipstream? DigiServer? Pointillion? Web Mammoth? SharpWeb? Web Enterprise? EnterWeb? Ged Haywood wrote: Hi there, On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, Chris Thompson wrote: mod_perl is a lousy name. [snip] mod_perl needs a name. Something marketable,

Re: New mod_perl Logo

2002-01-29 Thread Aaron Johnson
Thanks for sharing your opinion and it has brought up some of my own that I had held in reserve for sometime now. I would 100% agree with a claim that a name is effecting usage if we were selling a food product or something else to the general public, but even then far more products have failed

Re: New mod_perl Logo

2002-01-29 Thread Marceusz
In a message dated 30-Jan-02 12:50:50 AM GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How about "BigFoot"? Probably not the best for a server application. Might make one think of the "footprint" involved ... and isn't one of the major reasons to moving to mod_perl to reduce the overhead and

Re: New mod_perl Logo

2002-01-29 Thread Gunther Birznieks
I agree. mod_perl is a technology not a platform. Java is called Java, Servlets are called Servlets, but products on top of the technology (eg app servers) are usually have the name Orwellian Pearlz Factory. If you wanted to use a marketing name, you should have just told them you were using

Re: New mod_perl Logo

2002-01-29 Thread Joe Pearson
not Postgres, Sybase, Oracle, Informix? My point is it would not matter. The issue was not Perl, the real issue was that it was not a Microsoft product. - Original Message - From: Chris Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 5:29 PM Subject: Re: New

Re: New mod_perl Logo

2002-01-29 Thread Ron Savage
] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 12:48 PM Subject: Re: New mod_perl Logo In a message dated 30-Jan-02 12:50:50 AM GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How about "BigFoot"? Probably not the best for a server applicat

Re: New mod_perl Logo

2002-01-29 Thread Bill Moseley
At 07:29 PM 01/29/02 -0500, Chris Thompson wrote: Well, I'd like to just throw one idea into the mix. It's something that's bugged me for a long time, no better time than the present. mod_perl is a lousy name. I don't know about lousy, but I do agree. I brought this up on the docs-dev list: