Re: modperl growth

2002-02-05 Thread Mark Maunder
Rod Butcher wrote: My .05... I run a small communal webserver. Software had to be free, secure, stable, support Perl, multiple domains and ASP, be reasonably simple, originally run on Win32 and be capable of migration to Linux later. Nobrainer -- Apache, mod_perl, Apache::ASP. Only

Re: modperl growth

2002-02-05 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
Mark Maunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was thinking that too, but then I remembered that if you're not from an IT background, you're probably not going to be able to write a line of mod_perl code anyhoo. No, but you can pick up Mason, embperl, or Apache::Template (the TT loaded into

Re: [OT] RE: modperl growth

2002-02-05 Thread Ed Grimm
On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Dave Rolsky wrote: On Mon, 4 Feb 2002, Andrew Ho wrote: One last thing that is hard is where is your DocumentRoot? This is a huge problem for web applications being installable out of the box. Perl can't necessarily figure that out by itself, either. You take a guess

Re: [OT] modperl growth (installers)

2002-02-05 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Ed Grimm wrote: That's a good strategy (assuming a missing if in there somewhere). It can be augmented with the tactic of check for a running apache, see where it gets its config file from, and parse the config file to get the initial guess. (Note that I wouldn't want

Re: modperl growth

2002-02-04 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
Paul DuBois [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At 11:02 + 2/3/02, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: Paul DuBois [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mac OS X includes Apache, and mod_perl works there, too. That's another group of potential new mod_perl-ized servers. I think all the recent RedHats come with

Re: modperl growth

2002-02-04 Thread Robin Berjon
On Saturday 02 February 2002 23:20, Matt Sergeant wrote: Wow, bizarre. Not sure why but the AxKit list has seen a massive spurt in traffic lately too. Perhaps due to the migration to xml.apache.org (well, just a link at the moment), but perhaps due to the above? Traffic is notoriously hard to

Re: modperl growth

2002-02-04 Thread ___cliff rayman___
one more guess - in the group of guesses. ;-) perhaps redhat or another popular distro is configuring standard with mod_perl (i use redhat, but i always hand select my packages). if this is the case, then the banner will show mod_perl, even if the user has no idea what it is, and it is not in

Re: modperl growth

2002-02-04 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
___cliff rayman___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: one more guess - in the group of guesses. ;-) perhaps redhat or another popular distro is configuring standard with mod_perl (i use redhat, but i always hand select my packages). if this is the case, then the banner will show mod_perl, even if

Re: modperl growth

2002-02-04 Thread Dave Rolsky
On 4 Feb 2002, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: And if the Slashcode were as easy to install and customise as phpnuke... For OSCON (and hopefully YAPC too), I've submitted a talk on using Module::Build (an ExtUtils::MakeMaker replacement) for modules and using it to build an application installer. Its

RE: modperl growth

2002-02-04 Thread Adam Prime
Many cobalt boxes come running mod_perl by default. perhaps if people have been deploying a lot of these things lately it could have made an impact. HEAD / HTTP/1.0 HTTP/1.1 302 Found Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 20:13:54 GMT Server: Apache/1.3.12 Cobalt (Unix) mod_jk mod_ssl/2.6.4 OpenSSL/0.9.5a

Re: modperl growth

2002-02-04 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
Dave Rolsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 4 Feb 2002, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: And if the Slashcode were as easy to install and customise as phpnuke... For OSCON (and hopefully YAPC too), I've submitted a talk on using Module::Build (an ExtUtils::MakeMaker replacement) for modules and

[OT] RE: modperl growth

2002-02-04 Thread Jonathan M. Hollin
:: - Install Apache and mod_perl, or use an existing installation. :: :: - Install all the needed modules, template files, images, etc. [cut] Dave, I too try to automate installations as much as possible. Within Perl, I've found it possible to dispense with a separate configuration file for

Re: modperl growth

2002-02-04 Thread Rod Butcher
My .05... I run a small communal webserver. Software had to be free, secure, stable, support Perl, multiple domains and ASP, be reasonably simple, originally run on Win32 and be capable of migration to Linux later. Nobrainer -- Apache, mod_perl, Apache::ASP. Only difficulty was getting mod_perl

Re: [OT] RE: modperl growth

2002-02-04 Thread Andrew Ho
Hello, JHI've found it possible to dispense with a separate configuration file JHfor almost any application, even those with an RDBMS back-end. Under JH*nix it's really easy to automate things, under Win32 it's a little more JHdifficult (file permissions are a bastard to manipulate). Perl can

Re: modperl growth

2002-02-04 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen
On Sat, 2 Feb 2002, Robin Berjon wrote: http://www.securityspace.com/s_survey/data/man.200201/apachemods.html?mod=cGVybA== For some reason, in December, it would seem that modperl just jumped ahead in market share (from 13% to nearly 20%). [...] At least on Netcraft big jumps are usually

Re: [OT] RE: modperl growth

2002-02-04 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Mon, 4 Feb 2002, Andrew Ho wrote: One last thing that is hard is where is your DocumentRoot? This is a huge problem for web applications being installable out of the box. Perl can't necessarily figure that out by itself, either. You take a guess and then ask the user to confirm. And you

Re: modperl growth

2002-02-03 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
Paul DuBois [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mac OS X includes Apache, and mod_perl works there, too. That's another group of potential new mod_perl-ized servers. I think all the recent RedHats come with mod_perl as a DSO by default. -- Dave Hodgkinson, Wizard for Hire

Re: modperl growth

2002-02-03 Thread Paul DuBois
At 11:02 + 2/3/02, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: Paul DuBois [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mac OS X includes Apache, and mod_perl works there, too. That's another group of potential new mod_perl-ized servers. I think all the recent RedHats come with mod_perl as a DSO by default. I just looked on

Re: modperl growth

2002-02-03 Thread Pierre Phaneuf
Paul DuBois wrote: I think all the recent RedHats come with mod_perl as a DSO by default. I just looked on a RH 7.2 machine. It has the AddModule line in the default httpd.conf, but no mod_perl.so in the modules directory. I think the DSO in a separate mod_perl RPM package. --

modperl growth

2002-02-02 Thread Robin Berjon
Hi, I thought that some of you might find this graph interesting: http://www.securityspace.com/s_survey/data/man.200201/apachemods.html?mod=cGVybA== For some reason, in December, it would seem that modperl just jumped ahead in market share (from 13% to nearly 20%). So given that people here

Re: modperl growth

2002-02-02 Thread Matt Sergeant
On Sat, 2 Feb 2002, Robin Berjon wrote: Hi, I thought that some of you might find this graph interesting: http://www.securityspace.com/s_survey/data/man.200201/apachemods.html?mod=cGVybA== For some reason, in December, it would seem that modperl just jumped ahead in market share (from

Re: modperl growth

2002-02-02 Thread Jorge Godoy
Matt Sergeant [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Wow, bizarre. Not sure why but the AxKit list has seen a massive spurt in traffic lately too. Perhaps due to the migration to xml.apache.org (well, just a link at the moment), but perhaps due to the above? However I'm always skeptical of such massive

Re: modperl growth

2002-02-02 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
Matt Sergeant [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: However I'm always skeptical of such massive changes - perhaps more likely is a change in SecuritySpace's methodology? Don't Netcraft keep numbers? -- Dave Hodgkinson, Wizard for Hire http://www.davehodgkinson.com Editor-in-chief, The Highway

Re: modperl growth

2002-02-02 Thread Paul DuBois
At 20:54 -0200 2/2/02, Jorge Godoy wrote: Matt Sergeant [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Wow, bizarre. Not sure why but the AxKit list has seen a massive spurt in traffic lately too. Perhaps due to the migration to xml.apache.org (well, just a link at the moment), but perhaps due to the above?

Re: email attachments; was modperl growth

2002-02-02 Thread Rod Butcher
:54 AM Subject: Re: modperl growth

Re: email attachments; was modperl growth

2002-02-02 Thread Thomas Eibner
On Sun, Feb 03, 2002 at 10:21:32AM +1100, Rod Butcher wrote: Folks, please don't send attachments, esp. with no explanation, it looks just like these deliberate virus attacks to me and I refuse to open any attachments unless I am personally familiar with the sender and know they know what

Re: email attachments; was modperl growth

2002-02-02 Thread Jorge Godoy
Rod Butcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Folks, please don't send attachments, esp. with no explanation, it looks just like these deliberate virus attacks to me and I refuse to open any attachments unless I am personally familiar with the sender and know they know what they're doing. If it's

RE: email attachments; was modperl growth

2002-02-02 Thread stevea
Since Balmer and Gates consider open anything to be a threat to corporate intellectual property it's not likely that they will do this. If you ask nicely, though, they will steal it and call it ActivePGP - then sell it back to you. Rod Butcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm sorry, but it was a

RE: email attachments; was modperl growth

2002-02-02 Thread Jonathan M. Hollin
:: I'm sorry, but it was a GPG (a free PGP) signed message. :: :: Outlook is really lost when it sees that and, since you've :: bought it from Microsoft, I think you should send them a :: request for them to implement OpenPGP standards in their :: mail reader. Er, that's not strictly true.

RE: email attachments; was modperl growth

2002-02-02 Thread Brett W. McCoy
On Sun, 3 Feb 2002, Jonathan M. Hollin wrote: Er, that's not strictly true. Outlook handles encrypted and/or signed email as well as any other client. Outlook displays the signed email with a unique icon to identify it as such. The attachment contains the actual PGP info (in case you want

Re: [OT] email attachments; was modperl growth

2002-02-02 Thread Jeremy Howard
Jonathan M. Hollin wrote: Er, that's not strictly true. Outlook handles encrypted and/or signed email as well as any other client. Outlook displays the signed email with a unique icon to identify it as such. The attachment contains the actual PGP info (in case you want to see it). I think