Re: Smart installing (Re: mod_perl advocacy project resurrection)

2000-12-10 Thread Gunther Birznieks
I don't mean to naysay it, but this is going to start getting quite binary specific. I guess you could maintain an RPM for Linux, but beyond that it seems quite difficult. And even if you maintain it as an RPM for Linux, do you make your own Perl distro with it or use RedHat's crappy distro?

Re: Smart installing (Re: mod_perl advocacy project resurrection)

2000-12-10 Thread Gunther Birznieks
At 02:01 PM 12/6/00 -0800, brian moseley wrote: On Wed, 6 Dec 2000, Aaron E. Ross wrote: while the install and auto configure part is not very glamorous, the possibility of being able to untar one package to get mod_perl w/ persistent db connections, transaction management, data

Re: Smart installing (Re: mod_perl advocacy project resurrection)

2000-12-07 Thread Gunther Birznieks
At 07:12 AM 12/7/00 -0500, barries wrote: On Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 12:30:53AM -0500, Marc Spitzer wrote: the only thing I would add is DBI and DBD:::CSV, No joins. Therefore not very useful. Actually joins are over-rated for most simple apps. It's very easy to make a calendar, address book

Re: Smart installing (Re: mod_perl advocacy project resurrection)

2000-12-07 Thread Aaron E. Ross
at a time earlier than now, kevin montuori wrote: Aaron E Ross writes: aer the possibility of being able to untar one package to get aer mod_perl w/ persistent db connections, [c.] is very glamorous! agreed. but fundamentally impossible. what database are you going

Re: Smart installing (Re: mod_perl advocacy project resurrection)

2000-12-07 Thread martin langhoff
"Aaron E. Ross" wrote: database abstraction and connection pooling = DBI session management = Apache::Session load balancing = mod_backhand?? data relational mapping = Tangram or Alzabo templates or

Re: Smart installing (Re: mod_perl advocacy project resurrection)

2000-12-07 Thread Marc Spitzer
, 7. December 2000 7:12 Subject: Re: Smart installing (Re: mod_perl advocacy project resurrection) On Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 12:30:53AM -0500, Marc Spitzer wrote: the only thing I would add is DBI and DBD:::CSV, No joins. Therefore not very useful. you get a basic prototyping db and you can

Re: Smart installing (Re: mod_perl advocacy project resurrection)

2000-12-07 Thread Jimi Thompson
ies [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Marc Spitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: mod_perl list [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Marc Spitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 7. December 2000 7:12 Subject: Re: Smart installing (Re: mod_perl advocacy project resurrection) On Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 12:30:53AM -0500, Marc Spitzer wrote:

Re: Smart installing (Re: mod_perl advocacy project resurrection)

2000-12-07 Thread Marc Spitzer
installed the package(s) you need. marc - Original Message - From: Jimi Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Marc Spitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 7. December 2000 13:40 Subject: Re: Smart installing (Re: mod_perl advocacy project resurrection) Marc, In order

Smart installing (Re: mod_perl advocacy project resurrection)

2000-12-06 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Wed, 6 Dec 2000, brian moseley wrote: another option would be to use autoconf. wrap a configure script around your entire set of components. allow it to find and use whichever ones you've already got installed. have it build and install whatever you don't already have. not very tough.

Re: Smart installing (Re: mod_perl advocacy project resurrection)

2000-12-06 Thread Aaron E. Ross
at a time earlier than now, Dave Rolsky wrote: On Wed, 6 Dec 2000, brian moseley wrote: But I'd also like to point out, as Matt Sergeant said, this stuff is _really_ hard, and not very glamorous. I would've done much less of it while the install and auto configure part is not very

Re: Smart installing (Re: mod_perl advocacy project resurrection)

2000-12-06 Thread Benjamin Trott
Perhaps part of this is that we simply need smarter configure/install methods. ... I've also dealt with this on another app I'm working on (currently under NDA) that requires a bunch of modules, a set of tables in a database, mod_perl, etc. I've been dealing w/ very similar issues in work

Re: Smart installing (Re: mod_perl advocacy project resurrection)

2000-12-06 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Wed, 6 Dec 2000, Aaron E. Ross wrote: while the install and auto configure part is not very glamorous, the possibility of being able to untar one package to get mod_perl w/ persistent db connections, transaction management, data relational modeling/objects and a nice

Re: Smart installing (Re: mod_perl advocacy project resurrection)

2000-12-06 Thread brian moseley
On Wed, 6 Dec 2000, Aaron E. Ross wrote: while the install and auto configure part is not very glamorous, the possibility of being able to untar one package to get mod_perl w/ persistent db connections, transaction management, data relational modeling/objects and a nice

Re: Smart installing (Re: mod_perl advocacy project resurrection)

2000-12-06 Thread kevin montuori
Aaron E Ross writes: aer the possibility of being able to untar one package to get aer mod_perl w/ persistent db connections, [c.] is very glamorous! agreed. but fundamentally impossible. what database are you going to provide persistent connections to? mysql? not on my

Re: Smart installing (Re: mod_perl advocacy project resurrection)

2000-12-06 Thread Marc Spitzer
, 6. December 2000 17:17 Subject: Re: Smart installing (Re: mod_perl advocacy project resurrection) Aaron E Ross writes: aer the possibility of being able to untar one package to get aer mod_perl w/ persistent db connections, [c.] is very glamorous! agreed. but fundamentally