Re: an unusual [job request] + taking mod_perl to the commercial world

2001-04-30 Thread Bakki Kudva
On Sun, 29 Apr 2001 13:52:05 +0800 Gunther Birznieks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I completely agree with the assertion that applications sell the underlying technology. History teaches us that to be indisputable. Also while applications should be an overall part of the vision, it may not have to

Re: an unusual [job request] + taking mod_perl to the commercial world

2001-04-30 Thread John D Groenveld
Often quite a number of developers are all at work, and they don't all merit the kind of trust that mod_perl requires. See Phillippe Chiasson's talk @ ApacheCon. Lots of developers checking out release controlled Apache, perl, and application. Neat stuff. John [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: an unusual [job request] + taking mod_perl to the commercial world

2001-04-29 Thread barries
On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 01:37:52PM +0800, Gunther Birznieks wrote: At 09:06 AM 4/28/01 -0400, barries wrote: Not sure either, except that this would be more targeted towards specific research projects, as opposed to the build a venue and they will come SourceXchange model. I guess my

Re: an unusual [job request] + taking mod_perl to the commercial world

2001-04-28 Thread barries
On Sat, Apr 28, 2001 at 12:16:18PM +0800, Gunther Birznieks wrote: If the person being sponsored by grants is a foreigner to the US, but wishes to be in the US Agreed, but I don't think that's a roadblock, just a situation to be dealt with. mod_perl infrastructure seems to be the kind of

Re: an unusual [job request] + taking mod_perl to the commercial world

2001-04-28 Thread Drew Taylor
At 10:41 PM 4/27/01 -0400, barries wrote: On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 11:44:49PM +0800, Stas Bekman wrote: Since mod_perl is an open source, it's a tough quest. Basically what I want is get some company that will benefit from me working on open source project full time and pay me a salary. Of

Re: an unusual [job request] + taking mod_perl to the commercial world

2001-04-28 Thread Bakki Kudva
On Sat, 28 Apr 2001 09:14:10 +0100 (BST) Matt Sergeant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Amen to that and there is Enhydra on the Java side. To get the functionality of these two frameworks I'd have to integrate many many CPAN modules, keep track of various versions, make sure each is active etc etc. A

Re: an unusual [job request] + taking mod_perl to the commercial world

2001-04-28 Thread Robin Berjon
At 14:04 28/04/2001 -0400, Drew Taylor wrote: I remember seeing some proofs done by Robin Berjon (I'm sure I'm not spelling it right!) long ago that I really liked. But they were never used AFAIK. I also registered modperlnews.(org|com) a while back with the intention of doing something useful

Re: an unusual [job request] + taking mod_perl to the commercial world

2001-04-28 Thread Richard L. Goerwitz III
barries wrote: Anyway, this seems promising. Where I know we wouldn't pay money to fund an entire year of Stas developing mod_perl solely, I certainly know that there are probably features I would seriously consider sponsoring. Any others out there that might be interested, let's hear

Re: an unusual [job request] + taking mod_perl to the commercial world

2001-04-28 Thread Gunther Birznieks
At 09:06 AM 4/28/01 -0400, barries wrote: But then this gets into the Collabnet SourceXChange model which Collabnet just shut down due to lack of capability of making money (I guess). So I am not sure if this would bode well for this type of model on mod_perl. Not sure either, except

Re: an unusual [job request] + taking mod_perl to the commercial world

2001-04-28 Thread Gunther Birznieks
At 09:14 AM 4/28/01 +0100, Matt Sergeant wrote: On Sat, 28 Apr 2001, Gunther Birznieks wrote: As I think I mentioned, it's great that the people like you on this list have a passion for delivering cool software. [snipped] People rarely look at toolkits like payment gateways and

Re: an unusual [job request] + taking mod_perl to the commercial world

2001-04-28 Thread Gunther Birznieks
I would like to restate that while I think these engines are cool and useful, that they are not the things that bring the masses to your platform. This was the point I was making. I am not naysaying projects like Enhydra, but just stated that they are not as directly useful for bringing the

an unusual [job request] + taking mod_perl to the commercial world

2001-04-27 Thread Stas Bekman
Well, I've talked to a few mod_perl guys over the last conference and by email lately and we have have all agreed that we are quite sick of generating forms and parsing them, no matter what cool toolkit and hype words we are using to do that. So we all are looking at doing core mod_perl, i.e. we

Re: an unusual [job request] + taking mod_perl to the commercial world

2001-04-27 Thread JR Mayberry
though.. - Original Message - From: Stas Bekman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mod_perl list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 11:44 AM Subject: an unusual [job request] + taking mod_perl to the commercial world Well, I've talked to a few mod_perl guys over the last conference

Re: an unusual [job request] + taking mod_perl to the commercial world

2001-04-27 Thread Michael Lazzaro
At 12:00 PM 4/27/01 -0400, JR Mayberry wrote: there will be more dreams jobs like you described.. simple fact is, I couldn't name more then 3 companies in my area who use it, and I never expect to do work with it again. ... on the other hand, even as recently as one year ago, it was almost

Re: an unusual [job request] + taking mod_perl to the commercial world

2001-04-27 Thread Jim Winstead
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 10:01:39AM -0700, Michael Lazzaro wrote: At 12:00 PM 4/27/01 -0400, JR Mayberry wrote: there will be more dreams jobs like you described.. simple fact is, I couldn't name more then 3 companies in my area who use it, and I never expect to do work with it again. ...

Re: an unusual [job request] + taking mod_perl to the commercial world

2001-04-27 Thread Gunther Birznieks
Well, you know how I feel. :) But the others don't so... I believe the most crucial and missing approach is to put resources into making ready-made applications that work on mod_perl rather than core mod_perl itself. This is also a problem on Linux, but that's another story. A quantity of

Re: an unusual [job request] + taking mod_perl to the commercial world

2001-04-27 Thread Mark Maunder
Well, hopefully the mod_perl community isn't so small that etoys counted as a sizable fraction :) I'm ex etoys Europe and have set up a mod_perl webdev company in London assembling high traffic web sites, so I guess you can count me in as one of them freed up mod_perl people. I was tempted to

Re: an unusual [job request] + taking mod_perl to the commercial world

2001-04-27 Thread barries
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 11:44:49PM +0800, Stas Bekman wrote: Since mod_perl is an open source, it's a tough quest. Basically what I want is get some company that will benefit from me working on open source project full time and pay me a salary. Of course it's probably hard to get a full