[MOSAIC] ***SPAM*** Re: Do we really need to teach explicit strategies?

2009-06-14 Thread djchan
Renee, I am a retired teacher and I found these same problems when I taught. I think it comes from adults in the child's life who are controlling and do not allow the child to learn by mistakes. I once had a child (boy) in my first grade classroom who was held back because of failure to

Re: [MOSAIC] Do we really need to teach explicit strategies?

2009-06-14 Thread CNJPALMER
Elisa I have it also. I would be up to a discussionbut I have too much going on to lead it this year. Anyone else? Jennifer In a message dated 6/13/2009 11:43:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, elwaingor...@cbe.ab.ca writes: This book is in my to read pile. Anyone up for reading and

Re: [MOSAIC] Do we really need to teach explicit strategies?

2009-06-14 Thread CNJPALMER
Sally Can you email it to Keith and he can put it on the Tools page? Jennifer In a message dated 6/14/2009 1:08:07 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, sally.thom...@verizon.net writes: I have Roger Farr's presentation and maybe we could post it if others want it. I too used his presentation and I

Re: [MOSAIC] Do we really need to teach explicit strategies?

2009-06-14 Thread Waingort Jimenez, Elisa
Jennifer, So, am I. However, I could take responsibility for leading a discussion around a section or two of the book but not for the entire discussion. Sally, do you have the book, yet? Maybe you'd be interested in leading the discussion since you will be going to an institute with Harvey

Re: [MOSAIC] Do we really need to teach explicit strategies?

2009-06-14 Thread thomas
For everyone, I realize this am that the Farr presentation is at my apartment up northwhere I teach in the winter. I won't be back Up there till August. Will do then. Sorry. Sally On 6/14/09 5:47 AM, cnjpal...@aol.com cnjpal...@aol.com wrote: Sally Can you email it to Keith and he

Re: [MOSAIC] Do we really need to teach explicit strategies?

2009-06-14 Thread thomas
I would be willing after I go to the Institute. Expect to get a copy of the Book then. So it would be the last two weeks of July into August??? Maybe we can co lead it? Sally On 6/14/09 5:49 AM, Waingort Jimenez, Elisa elwaingor...@cbe.ab.ca wrote: Jennifer, So, am I. However, I could take

Re: [MOSAIC] ***SPAM*** Re: Do we really need to teach explicitstrategies?

2009-06-14 Thread Ljackson
My youngest son is a brilliant thinker, a real outside the box kind of kid, but he reads slowly (with great understanding) and struggles with handwriting and spelling. This year, as an eight grader, we began noticing that he was struggling to correctly copy mathematical equations. He would err

Re: [MOSAIC] Lori's story-was Do we really need to teach explicitstrategies

2009-06-14 Thread CNJPALMER
Lori My heart goes out to you and your son. He is lucky he has such an advocate in you. I work in an elementary school with children like your son every day. We as a profession need to work to help our colleagues understand that we are teaching children, not a curriculum and that it is

Re: [MOSAIC] ***SPAM*** Re: Do we really need to teach explicit strategies?

2009-06-14 Thread Renee
Hi Deidra, I agree with you and whoever said that it is also due to parents' expectations. I recall two years ago when I was working in a Kindergarten classroom and we had a certain student who was VERY bright but who sometimes just seemed to really lack confidence. Then one day we were

Re: [MOSAIC] Guided reading

2009-06-14 Thread Primary email
what are these abbreviations for? From: Joy jwidm...@rocketmail.com To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group mosaic@literacyworkshop.org Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 12:28:02 AM Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Guided reading And there are several who

Re: [MOSAIC] teaching reading strategies to advanced readers

2009-06-14 Thread Creecher12
In a message dated 6/12/2009 7:12:51 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, cnjpal...@aol.com writes: My point is, I think, that we first have to recognize that strategies are a tool...not the goal. BUT, I wonder if we need to challenge our advanced readers to become aware of their thinking...to

Re: [MOSAIC] Lori's story-was Do we really need to teachexplicitstrategies

2009-06-14 Thread Ljackson
My son and I are not the ones failing to understand the issue.;-) And I love Gentry's work. Lori Jackson District Literacy Coach and Mentor Todd County School District Box 87 Mission SD 5755 - Original message - From: cnjpal...@aol.com To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org Date: Sunday,

Re: [MOSAIC] Do we really need to teach explicit strategies?

2009-06-14 Thread Ljackson
Sounds pretty midwestern to me--a gentle softening of opinion or dissent. Sort of an older version of IMO. Lori Jackson District Literacy Coach and Mentor Todd County School District Box 87 Mission SD 5755 - Original message - From: Renee phoenix...@sbcglobal.net To: Mosaic: A

[MOSAIC] Reading for high first graders

2009-06-14 Thread Patty Cook
Hi everyone, Does anyone have any ideas of book titles for those first-graders who are REALLY READING. Next year, we are implementing a Literacy Block using an RTI model, where the kids will regroup based on needs. With those tip-top kids, we would like to offer them some more challenging

Re: [MOSAIC] Mosaic Digest, Vol 34, Issue 20

2009-06-14 Thread Cynthia Witherspoon
I am out of the office until June 21. Call my cell 704-472-6592 and leave a message if you need me before then! ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to

Re: [MOSAIC] Do we really need to teach explicit strategies?

2009-06-14 Thread Joy
Keith can help with that. Email him off list Joy/NC/4 How children learn is as important as what they learn: process and content go hand in hand. http://www.responsiveclassroom.org From: thomas sally.thom...@verizon.net To: Mosaic: A Reading

Re: [MOSAIC] Do we really need to teach explicit strategies?

2009-06-14 Thread Joy
LOL, they say that here (NC) too! Along with carry as in I'm going to carry the team to soccer practice. It means take or transport. Joy/NC/4 How children learn is as important as what they learn: process and content go hand in hand. http://www.responsiveclassroom.org

Re: [MOSAIC] Reading for high first graders

2009-06-14 Thread Jeanne Petty
My top reading group in first grade LOVES the Magic Treehouse series (especially the one about the Titanic). They also enjoyed books from the Horrible Harry, Cam Jansen and Marvin Redpost series. They liked reading Stone Fox too. I think the key is to get children reading books that they

Re: [MOSAIC] Mentor Texts

2009-06-14 Thread Judy Dotson
I'm just getting back into this discussion group - SO glad I didn't miss this post!  I teach a 2/3 and would so appreciate the list of mentor texts for those grade levels.  Thank you. Judy Life is not about waiting for the storms to pass...it's about learning how to dance in the rain. ---

Re: [MOSAIC] ***SPAM*** Re: Do we really need to teach explicit strategies?

2009-06-14 Thread Jan Sanders
Wow Lori, I want to respond, but don't know what to say. It truly is our personal experiences that lead us to understanding -in reading and life. My oldest son (29) who has a very high IQ, can not spell correctly to save his life, and it is difficult to read his writing. In elementary school it

Re: [MOSAIC] ***SPAM*** Re: Do we really need to teach explicit strategies?

2009-06-14 Thread Renee
And I also have an adult son, 32, a professional musician with a very high IQ, whose spelling and handwriting are just about the most atrocious I have ever seen. Spelling is so unimportant in the grand scheme of things. Renee On Jun 14, 2009, at 10:41 AM, Jan Sanders wrote: Wow Lori, I

Re: [MOSAIC] Subject line

2009-06-14 Thread hccarlson
Hi, all, Can we be a little more conscientious when it comes to the subject? I have no idea what book you are talking about here. Also, so many seem to be about Do we really need to teach explicit strategies?, yet when I click on the message, it is about a completely different topic.

Re: [MOSAIC] ***SPAM*** Re: Do we really need to teach explicit strategies?

2009-06-14 Thread Joy
omg, one of the defining moments that got me to quit my job and go back to college and become a teacher was when camping with Girl Scouts. It was time to prepare dinner, and being the constructivist that I am, I pretty much left it up to the girls.(I didn't know that's what it is called) It

Re: [MOSAIC] Do we really need to teach explicit strategies?

2009-06-14 Thread Joy
I would certainly be up for lurking on this one. I've overcommitted already for the summer and we return July 27th. Joy/NC/4 How children learn is as important as what they learn: process and content go hand in hand. http://www.responsiveclassroom.org

Re: [MOSAIC] Guided reading

2009-06-14 Thread Joy
Teachers Applying Whole Language The LearningNetwork Joy/NC/4 How children learn is as important as what they learn: process and content go hand in hand. http://www.responsiveclassroom.org From: Primary email tinadud...@sbcglobal.net To: Mosaic: A

[MOSAIC] daily 5

2009-06-14 Thread Lespop4
How can one become part of the daily 5 group? Thanks...Leslie In a message dated 6/13/2009 7:50:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, pkima...@earthlink.net writes: Hi Melissa, I am on the Daily5 group. How many people on this list are part of both groups. PatK On Jun 13, 2009, at 2:11 PM,

Re: [MOSAIC] Reading for high first graders

2009-06-14 Thread beverleepaul
That would be 80 percent of the picture books in your library. Sent from my BlackBerry Smartphone provided by Alltel -Original Message- From: Patty Cook coo...@verizon.net Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 11:31:55 To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org Subject: [MOSAIC] Reading for high first graders

Re: [MOSAIC] Reading for high first graders

2009-06-14 Thread beverleepaul
I hate to be so crotchety, but why are we making decisions for ALL kids based on an alternative way of verifying learning disabled children? Sent from my BlackBerry Smartphone provided by Alltel -Original Message- From: Patty Cook coo...@verizon.net Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 11:31:55 To:

Re: [MOSAIC] ***SPAM*** Re: Do we really need to teach explicitstrategies?

2009-06-14 Thread beverleepaul
Noone can read my son's handwriting either, but he is a pediatrician, where it's smiled at. Lucky for him, I guess. Sent from my BlackBerry Smartphone provided by Alltel -Original Message- From: Renee phoenix...@sbcglobal.net Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 11:55:06 To: Mosaic: A Reading

Re: [MOSAIC] ***SPAM*** Re: Do we really need to teach explicitstrategies?

2009-06-14 Thread Ljackson
They resisted us on testing as well. But once upon a time we sued a school district that failed to provide services...and that knowledge lingers. Also, we were seeking a diagnosis and suggested modifications, not a an IEP designation. We would have gotten nowhere fast, I think, has we not

Re: [MOSAIC] Reading for high first graders

2009-06-14 Thread beverleepaul
A great resource to see alternatives like this is actually the catalogue - Steps to Literacy. Sent from my BlackBerry Smartphone provided by Alltel -Original Message- From: Jeanne Petty jag_39_1...@hotmail.com Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 12:25:41 To: mosaic

Re: [MOSAIC] ***SPAM*** Re: Do we really need to teach explicitstrategies?

2009-06-14 Thread Ljackson
Some people lack a grand scheme of anything., IMO. His old 4/5 teacher, now the math coach and among the coolest people I know, called him to tell him he knew all along that there was something really special about the way his brain worked. Had lots of examples of brilliant, successful artists

Re: [MOSAIC] Reading for high first graders

2009-06-14 Thread Ljackson
Because someone out there thinks you should take an asprin if I have a headache... Lori Jackson District Literacy Coach and Mentor Todd County School District Box 87 Mission SD 5755 - Original message - From: beverleep...@gmail.com To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies

Re: [MOSAIC] Reading for high first graders

2009-06-14 Thread Jan Sanders
Wow! My 3rd graders often had trouble fully comprehending The Magic Tree House books as they are based on historical fiction and they had very little schema. Jan On 6/14/09 10:25 AM, Jeanne Petty jag_39_1...@hotmail.com wrote: My top reading group in first grade LOVES the Magic Treehouse

Re: [MOSAIC] ***SPAM*** Re: Do we really need to teach explicit strategies?

2009-06-14 Thread Jan Sanders
Hey Renee- Do you think it is in the genes? (Renee's son and mine are cousins) Jan On 6/14/09 11:55 AM, Renee phoenix...@sbcglobal.net wrote: And I also have an adult son, 32, a professional musician with a very high IQ, whose spelling and handwriting are just about the most atrocious I

Re: [MOSAIC] ***SPAM*** Re: Do we really need to teach explicit strategies?

2009-06-14 Thread Renee
I dunno. I can spell. You can spell. Their fathers can spell. Wait one of their fathers can spell. hahahahahaha. Our mother can mostly spell. I don't think I've ever seen our father write anything (h. I wonder if he can spell?) Maybe they can't spell because they don't think it's

Re: [MOSAIC] Reading for high first graders

2009-06-14 Thread Felicia Barra
It's the end of first grade and my strong readers are reading magic tree house books, aly cat takes over first grade and a really cute one called Daisy Dawson (donated to my class from a scholastic book fair-reminds me of Dr. Doolittle). Felicia -Original Message- From:

Re: [MOSAIC] ***SPAM*** Re: Do we really need to teach explicitstrategies?

2009-06-14 Thread Renee
Wow. Here we are teachers discussing our own children trying to survive school. Think about that. Renee On Jun 14, 2009, at 1:56 PM, Ljackson wrote: Some people lack a grand scheme of anything., IMO. His old 4/5 teacher, now the math coach and among the coolest people I know,

Re: [MOSAIC] ***SPAM*** Re: Do we really need to teach explicit strategies?

2009-06-14 Thread Renee
hahaha Joy. The first year my son was in high school, his best friend's mom and I were helping the dozen or so girls in the marching band color guard put elastics in the necks of their costumes/uniforms. She and I discovered that the ONLY students present who knew how to thread a

Re: [MOSAIC] Reading for high first graders

2009-06-14 Thread Renee
Does anyone read the Frog and Toad books anymore? The stories are easy but the content can be pretty thought-provoking and conversation facilitating and connection-making oriented. When I taught third grade the Frog and Toad books were standard reading fare in my classroom. Renee On Jun

[MOSAIC] ***SPAM*** Re: Reading for high first graders

2009-06-14 Thread Patty Cook
I apologize for asking such a stupid question. It's just something my school is doing. I'm not saying it's right, it's just what we're doing and I don't make the decisions. I remember when I scrambled to find a website for you, Beverlee, that answered your question about results of Reading

Re: [MOSAIC] Guided reading

2009-06-14 Thread Delores Gibson
Is there a TAWL group somewhere? I had a local TAWL group that I attended and with the backlash against whole language all the local TAWL groups and the publications stopped in my area and I'm trying to reconnect. Dee Deerfield, Illinois dgib...@dps109.org -Original Message- From:

Re: [MOSAIC] ***SPAM*** Re: Reading for high first graders

2009-06-14 Thread beverleepaul
You're right, and I greatly appreciated the info - it was exactly what I needed and I couldn't have found it myself in time. Thank you. Sent from my BlackBerry Smartphone provided by Alltel -Original Message- From: Patty Cook coo...@verizon.net Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 18:15:14 To:

Re: [MOSAIC] Reading for high first graders

2009-06-14 Thread beverleepaul
But the trick is - how could you get YouTube past your school's firewall? --Original Message-- From: Jeanne Petty Sender: mosaic-boun...@literacyworkshop.org To: mosaic listserve ReplyTo: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Reading for high first

Re: [MOSAIC] Guided reading

2009-06-14 Thread Creecher12
Here is where you can sign on to the TAWL listserv _http://listserv.arizona.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=tawlA=1_ (http://listserv.arizona.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=tawlA=1) Nancy In a message dated 6/14/2009 6:19:28 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, dgib...@dps109.org writes: Is there a TAWL group

[MOSAIC] children with hard to identify learning disabilities

2009-06-14 Thread Tammy Bush
My oldest son is just finishing 5th grade and all through his school career, teachers have questioned his ability to focus, his writing and organizational skills, and that he'd get flustered when it came time to do the work after the lesson and then he would shut down. In 4th grade, his teacher

[MOSAIC] ***SPAM*** Re: Reading for high first graders

2009-06-14 Thread Patty Cook
Thank you Jeanne. I appreciate the suggestions very much. They will really help. Patty - Original Message - From: Jeanne Petty jag_39_1...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Reading for high first graders To: mosaic listserve mosaic@literacyworkshop.org Message-ID:

Re: [MOSAIC] children with hard to identify learning disabilities

2009-06-14 Thread djchan
Tammy, How lucky you are to have colleagues who will help you with your son. When my ADHD daughter was in fifth grade her teacher, upon looking at her psych report and IQ ask me if I thought she was really that intelligent! I almost went ballistic on her. My daughter's IQ was 130. But it was

Re: [MOSAIC] ***SPAM*** Re: Do we really need to teach explicitstrategies?

2009-06-14 Thread Joy
And the stories do not all have a happy ending. Many of you know the story about my son, who is now 24. He had a right temporal brain tumor, which was successfully removed. He was second in his class, an honor student with 2 part time jobs, manager of the football team, band member, good

Re: [MOSAIC] ***SPAM*** Re: Do we really need to teach explicit strategies?

2009-06-14 Thread Joy
I also taught kids sewing at the county extension office before becoming a teacher. Found out a qualifier for running a sewing machine - reading. Seriously, the kids who could read could handle using a machine the ones who couldn't read had a much harder time with it. Maybe it was more

Re: [MOSAIC] Guided reading

2009-06-14 Thread Delores Gibson
I'M SO SORRY!!! I totally agree with the person who wrote and told us to stay on topic. So, please forgive me if this email is inappropriate. I'm getting so many emails I can't keep up with who wrote what. It's 6:30 Sunday p.m. and I'm still packing my room for summer. I can't find all the

Re: [MOSAIC] Reading for high first graders

2009-06-14 Thread Ljackson
I'll put in a plug for Minnie and Moo, a seriously silly and somewhat sophisticated first chapter series. The humor appeals deeply to seven's. Lori Jackson District Literacy Coach and Mentor Todd County School District Box 87 Mission SD 5755 - Original message - From: Renee

Re: [MOSAIC] ***SPAM*** Re: Reading for high first graders

2009-06-14 Thread Ljackson
And our sarcasm is not aimed at anyone personally, but at trends that frustrate... Lori Jackson District Literacy Coach and Mentor Todd County School District Box 87 Mission SD 5755 - Original message - From: Patty Cook coo...@verizon.net To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org Date:

Re: [MOSAIC] Reading for high first graders

2009-06-14 Thread Ljackson
The last year I was in the classroom I had a duo that paired for tremendous success with this series. One was a high reader with lots of background knowledge but little interest in reading fiction. His buddy was a less confident reader with a stronger sense of story and an ability to see the

[MOSAIC] Reading is thinking and more

2009-06-14 Thread davehoh
What a great discussion this has been about strategy teaching. Your ideas will be so useful to me to mull over and share this summer as my district tries to figure out how reading workshop and guided reading will look in the middle school (I teach 6th). I agree most with the idea that

Re: [MOSAIC] Reading for high first graders

2009-06-14 Thread Freida Hammett
My high first grade readers enjoyed Magic Tree House, Junie B. Jones, Cam Jensen, Boxcar Children and Geronimo Stilton series in addition to other books.  Freida Hammett Lower Elementary (1st - 3rd) Atlanta ___ Mosaic mailing list

Re: [MOSAIC] ***SPAM*** Re: Do we really need to teach explicitstrategies?

2009-06-14 Thread Patricia Kimathi
I have a very gifted child that you have described to a T. Can you tell me more about dysgraphia. Did they give you exercises to do with him. I teach gifted students and have always been aware of gifted students with learning disabilities. My husband and I run a tutorial center and most

Re: [MOSAIC] Reading for high first graders

2009-06-14 Thread Kathy Keyzer
I use the link below to convert YouTube and other things so I can save to my flash drive and take to school and show things. Maybe you will find this helpful to you. KK http://www.zamzar.com/conversionTypes.php - Original Message - From: beverleep...@gmail.com To: Mosaic: A

Re: [MOSAIC] Strategies for Stronger Readers

2009-06-14 Thread Darlene Cook
Our school is implementing Reading Workshop (7 strategies). We have read many books by Ellin Keene, Debbie Miller, etcbut it still feels overwhelming on just how to get started. Did any of  you feel the same way? Darlene S. Cook  KindergartenLone Oak ElementaryPaducah, Kentucky 

Re: [MOSAIC] Strategies for Stronger Readers

2009-06-14 Thread beverleepaul
I know you probably feel like you're on reading overload -- but a little but mighty book on readers' workshop is by Linda Dorn and Carla Soffos and it will really help your confidence and sense of practicality. Check out amazon--I can't remember the book's name right now. Sent from my

[MOSAIC] Dysgraphia

2009-06-14 Thread Ljackson
Isaac can close his eyes and spell nearly anything orally, but put a pen in his hand and that same word turns to mush. Handwriting has a very immature feeling to it--irregularly formed letters, awkward letter spacing and huge spaces between words. Because he struggles with the recording of

Re: [MOSAIC] Strategies for Stronger Readers Beverleepaul)

2009-06-14 Thread Tracy Gaestel
Bev, is the book Teaching for Deep Comprehension or Shaping Literate Minds? On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 20:44:40 -0700, beverleep...@gmail.com wrote: I know you probably feel like you're on reading overload -- but a little but mighty book on readers' workshop is by Linda Dorn and Carla Soffos and

Re: [MOSAIC] Dysgraphia

2009-06-14 Thread Patricia Kimathi
Lori, I know it is very personal, but you might want to keep a journal of your search. This might be something that can help others with similar problems. Pat Kimathi my prayers are with you. On Jun 14, 2009, at 9:24 PM, Ljackson wrote: Isaac can close his eyes and spell nearly anything

Re: [MOSAIC] ***SPAM*** Re: Do we really need to teach explicit strategies?

2009-06-14 Thread Jan Sanders
Your response made me laugh out loud. Come to think of it, I have never seen dad write... Hmmm. Maybe we should simply ask our students that. Is spelling important? Maybe our boys don't think it is important. Their minds are busy on other things. Have you ever heard them have a

Re: [MOSAIC] ***SPAM*** Re: Do we really need to teach explicitstrategies?

2009-06-14 Thread Patricia Kimathi
Should we write a book. I once had a second grade teacher tell me my son could not read. (Of course she did not ask her best friend across the hall who had taught him 1st grade and knew he read above grade level) When I pulled out a book he was reading. The low level/high interest

Re: [MOSAIC] Strategies for Stronger Readers

2009-06-14 Thread Joy
Teaching for Deep Comprehension? Joy/NC/4 How children learn is as important as what they learn: process and content go hand in hand. http://www.responsiveclassroom.org From: beverleep...@gmail.com beverleep...@gmail.com To: Mosaic: A Reading

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2009-06-14 Thread beverleepaul
Go on Sent from my BlackBerry Smartphone provided by Alltel -Original Message- From: Patricia Kimathi pkima...@earthlink.net Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 22:41:13 To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Groupmosaic@literacyworkshop.org Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] ***SPAM*** Re:

Re: [MOSAIC] Mosaic Digest, Vol 34, Issue 23

2009-06-14 Thread Cynthia Witherspoon
I am out of the office until June 21. Call my cell 704-472-6592 and leave a message if you need me before then! ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to