[MP3 ENCODER] --voice

2000-09-11 Thread Eric Howgate
Could someone satisfy my curiosity about this option (descibed as 'experimenatl' in the docs for ver 3.85, but I see that it is available in RazorLame) ?   Does it have fixed default parameters like the --preset voice option, and if so what are they ?   What is the thinking behinfd this optio

[MP3 ENCODER] Voice mode

1999-10-13 Thread Gabriel Bouvigne
> On 12-Oct-99 Gabriel Bouvigne wrote: > > I just wanted to notify that the voice option now only works (and is only > > tuned for) with 44.1kHz samples. > > Gabriel, could you post a quick rundown on how you implemented a 'voice' option. > voice is in the range 2-5khz isn't it? Could you assign

[MP3 ENCODER] --voice Modus

2000-07-31 Thread Frank Klemm
For <= 56 kbit/s Voice-Mode of Lame always sounds better than the normal mode. I've tested several kind of music and also spoken words. So there are 2 questions: * Does voice mode become standard for low bit rates? * What makes voice mode (it's not IS, it also works with mono)? * is IS for

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] --voice

2000-09-11 Thread Frank Klemm
On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 10:01:58PM -, Eric Howgate wrote: > Could someone satisfy my curiosity about this option (descibed as 'experimenatl' in >the docs for ver 3.85, but I see that it is available in RazorLame) ? > > Does it have fixed default parameters like the --preset voice option, and

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] --voice

2000-09-12 Thread Gabriel Bouvigne
Could someone satisfy my curiosity about this option (descibed as 'experimenatl' in the docs for ver 3.85, but I see that it is available in RazorLame) ?   Does it have fixed default parameters like the --preset voice option, and if so what are they ?   What is the thinking

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] --voice

2000-09-12 Thread Eric Howgate
  - Original Message - From: Gabriel Bouvigne To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 10:10 AM Subject: Re: [MP3 ENCODER] --voice Could someone satisfy my curiosity about this option (descibed as 'experimenatl' in the do

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] --voice

2000-09-12 Thread Eric Howgate
  - Original Message - From: Gabriel Bouvigne To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 10:10 AM Subject: Re: [MP3 ENCODER] --voice Could someone satisfy my curiosity about this option (descibed as 'experimenatl' in the do

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] --voice

2000-09-13 Thread Mark Taylor
> > > > Thanks - I'll revisit your website. > > Another question :) Is there a preferred (or even mandatory) > sequence to command-line opions for Lame ? I remember how quirky > DOS could be in this respect > The only problem is if you use incompatiable options - LAME does not che

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] --voice

2000-09-13 Thread Robert Hegemann
Mark Taylor schrieb am Mit, 13 Sep 2000: > > > > > > > > Thanks - I'll revisit your website. > > > > Another question :) Is there a preferred (or even mandatory) > > sequence to command-line opions for Lame ? I remember how quirky > > DOS could be in this respect > > > > The only

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] --voice

2000-09-14 Thread Eric Howgate
- Original Message - From: Mark Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 9:30 AM Subject: Re: [MP3 ENCODER] --voice > > Another question :) Is there a preferred (or even mandatory) > > sequence to command-line opio

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] --voice

2000-09-15 Thread Gabriel Bouvigne
> I've just been trying to help someone with re-encoding from 160/128 down to > 96 kbps for his portable player so I offered >-mj -b 96 --mp3input<. This > works fine but took longer than expected (perhaps because Lame seems to > automatically resample down to 32 kHz ?), - are these the best opti

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Voice mode

1999-10-13 Thread Greg Maxwell
On Wed, 13 Oct 1999, Gabriel Bouvigne wrote: > The voice mode is made using 3 tricks: > *using only long blocks > *limiting bitrate when vbr > *using a band-pass filter For a more sophicated hack: Panned stereo mode! For each frame you examine a spectrally weighed (ignore low freqs) energy rat

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Voice mode

1999-10-14 Thread Gabriel Bouvigne
> Panned stereo mode! > > For each frame you examine a spectrally weighed (ignore low freqs) energy > ratio of left/right to pick the stereo panning at two points in time > (middle, and right) then interpoate from old_left to middle then right, > enforcing a maximum rate of change. > > Then mix t

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Voice mode

1999-10-14 Thread Greg Maxwell
On Thu, 14 Oct 1999, Gabriel Bouvigne wrote: > > > Panned stereo mode! > > > > For each frame you examine a spectrally weighed (ignore low freqs) energy > > ratio of left/right to pick the stereo panning at two points in time > > (middle, and right) then interpoate from old_left to middle then r

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Voice mode

1999-10-14 Thread mikecheng
Hi all On 15-Oct-99 Greg Maxwell wrote: > Are you aware you can use lame for image compression? :) > compression.. Check out http://linuxpower.cx/~greg/mp3crap/ for some > examples of this kind of perversion.. This is so perverse it's actually neat. :) Anyone tried the reverse? Image compression o

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Voice mode

1999-10-14 Thread Gabriel Bouvigne
> Duh.. I see, M/S is define with addition/subtraction not multiplication. > > So, is there a downloadably doc that describes intensity mode, are > decoders a good source of info? There is a few lines (only a few) about it in the iso docs. If you don't have them yet, they are available on mp3tech

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Voice mode

1999-10-15 Thread Greg Maxwell
On Fri, 15 Oct 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi all > On 15-Oct-99 Greg Maxwell wrote: > > Are you aware you can use lame for image compression? :) > > compression.. Check out http://linuxpower.cx/~greg/mp3crap/ for some > > examples of this kind of perversion.. > This is so perverse it's actua

[MP3 ENCODER] Voice encoding questions

2000-08-04 Thread alex . broadhead
Howdy All, In testing my (comparatively naive) hack of the dist10 encoder, I have discovered that, while it does OK for music, it has real problems with speech signals. (Caveat: at our lowest overall bitrate of 300kbps for combined video/audio, we run the audio at 32kbit mono - though we go way

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] --voice Modus

2000-08-05 Thread Robert Hegemann
Frank Klemm schrieb am Die, 01 Aug 2000: > For <= 56 kbit/s Voice-Mode of Lame always sounds better than the normal > mode. I've tested several kind of music and also spoken words. > > So there are 2 questions: > > * Does voice mode become standard for low bit rates? > * What makes voice mod

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Voice encoding questions

2000-08-04 Thread Gabriel Bouvigne
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 4:14 PM Subject: [MP3 ENCODER] Voice encoding questions > Howdy All, > > In testing my (comparatively naive) hack of the dist10 encoder, I have > discovered th

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Voice encoding questions

2000-08-04 Thread Gabriel Bouvigne
> So my question(s) are: Is the solution to my problem to filter/downsample > (and use joint, when I get around to coding it up)? That seems to be what > is making the difference in the case of LAME; I assume that FhG is using > some filtering as well, though there's no way to disable it and se

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Voice encoding questions

2000-08-04 Thread Mark Taylor
> 1) With my encoder (64kbps stereo CRC), every fricative is almost painful to > listen to, as the pink noise bursts end up being narrow band filtered (due > to lack of bits - only the MDCT coeffs closest to the pole are making it > into the bitstream), and there are occasional weird high frequen

RE: [MP3 ENCODER] Voice encoding questions

2000-08-04 Thread alex . broadhead
Howdy All, Thanks for the quick replies! Gabriel Bouvigne wrote: > If you want to encode voice signals, I'd suggest you to use --voice > or --preset voice Actually, I want to encode general signals (mostly TV and movies), many of which have significant voice components, and, unfortunately, man

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Voice encoding questions

2000-08-04 Thread Gabriel Bouvigne
> I like to think that I have fixed at least a few. Now that I've finished a > first pass clean, rewrite, overhaul, and verify, I'm taking a closer look at > algorithmic (as opposed to purely implementational) problems, starting with > the main loop, and probably ending with the #&^@% psych mode

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Voice encoding questions

2000-08-05 Thread Takehiro Tominaga
> "F" == Frank Klemm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: F> We should support an option (-ma for Mode Auto) which switches F> between -a -mm for highly correlated channels (r > 0.98 => F> mono), -mj for a normal correlated signals (r = -1.00...-0.20, F> 0.20...0.91 => stereo) and -ms

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Voice encoding questions

2000-08-05 Thread Gabriel Bouvigne
> F> We should support an option (-ma for Mode Auto) which switches > F> between -a -mm for highly correlated channels (r > 0.98 => > F> mono), -mj for a normal correlated signals (r = -1.00...-0.20, > F> 0.20...0.91 => stereo) and -ms for nearly not > > I am afraid most of decoder

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Voice encoding questions

2000-08-05 Thread Mark Taylor
> Another question: > Is there any tool to analyze the number of SI, MS and LR frames in a MP3? > Frank, you just need a GTK enabled version of lame :-) run lame -g on the mp3 file, scroll to the end, and then click 'show' under the 'stats' pull down menu. It shows the info you want, and any

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Voice encoding questions

2000-08-07 Thread Jaroslav Lukesh
| 3) FhG (-br 64000 -qual 9 -crc -no-is -esr 44100) sounds very good. (Man, | is it slow, though.) Again, without the forced MPEG-1 sampling rate, the | mp3enc31 will attempt to use 22050. ... | So my question(s) are: Is the solution to my problem to filter/downsample | (and use joint, when

Re[2]: [MP3 ENCODER] Voice encoding questions

2000-08-04 Thread Roel VdB
Hello alex, abcc> I feel guilty using a list mainly devoted to an open source codec (LAME) to abcc> further the development of ClearBand's 'proprietary' codec. (Is a standards abcc> based codec implementation proprietary? We don't sell the codec - we sell a abcc> multicast system, mostly to ISP

Re[2]: [MP3 ENCODER] Voice encoding questions

2000-08-04 Thread Dmitry
Hello Gabriel, Friday, August 04, 2000, 10:33:46 PM, you wrote: GB> I'd suggest you to look at the archives of this list, and to look at Lame GB> 3.00. It's code was probably a lot easier, and it was mainly bugfixed ISO GB> with addition of joint stereo. where i can get lame 3.0 & 2.1f? Best r

[MP3 ENCODER] Voice encoding with low bit rates

2000-08-04 Thread engdev
I have briefly tried the "--voice" mode and the "normal" mode when encoding a purely voice signal (with background noise) at 8kbps, and have been very impressed with the difference. I would like to compress the signal more... but 8 is as low as it goes. The "nomal" mode renders the voice absolute

Re: Re[2]: [MP3 ENCODER] Voice encoding questions

2000-08-04 Thread Frank Klemm
We should support an option (-ma for Mode Auto) which switches between -a -mm for highly correlated channels (r > 0.98 => mono), -mj for a normal correlated signals (r = -1.00...-0.20, 0.20...0.91 => stereo) and -ms for nearly not correlated signals (dual channel audio with independent audio, i.e.

Re: Re[2]: [MP3 ENCODER] Voice encoding questions

2000-08-05 Thread Robert Hegemann
Frank Klemm schrieb am Sam, 05 Aug 2000: > We should support an option (-ma for Mode Auto) which switches between -a -mm > for highly correlated channels (r > 0.98 => mono), -mj for a normal > correlated signals (r = -1.00...-0.20, 0.20...0.91 => stereo) and -ms for nearly not > correlated signals

Re: Re[2]: [MP3 ENCODER] Voice encoding questions

2000-08-05 Thread Gabriel Bouvigne
> Hello Gabriel, > > where i can get lame 3.0 & 2.1f? > ftp://ftp.fu-berlin.de/unix/sound/lame/ Regards, -- Gabriel Bouvigne - France [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 12138873 MP3' Tech: www.mp3-tech.org -- MP3 ENCODER mailing list ( http://geek.rcc.se/mp3encoder/ )

Re: Re[2]: [MP3 ENCODER] Voice encoding questions

2000-08-05 Thread Frank Klemm
:: Frank Klemm schrieb am Sam, 05 Aug 2000: :: > We should support an option (-ma for Mode Auto) which switches between -a -mm :: > for highly correlated channels (r > 0.98 => mono), -mj for a normal :: > correlated signals (r = -1.00...-0.20, 0.20...0.91 => stereo) and -ms for nearly :not ::

Re: Re[2]: [MP3 ENCODER] Voice encoding questions

2000-08-05 Thread Robert Hegemann
Frank Klemm schrieb am Sam, 05 Aug 2000: > Another question: > Is there any tool to analyze the number of SI, MS and LR frames in a MP3? I don't know if there is any, but you can write a simple tool scanning all mp3 headers and counting the type of each frame. Or you can look out for a tool c

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Voice encoding with low bit rates

2000-08-04 Thread Gabriel Bouvigne
> I have briefly tried the "--voice" mode and the "normal" mode when > encoding a purely voice signal (with background noise) at 8kbps, and > have been very impressed with the difference. I would like to compress > the signal more... but 8 is as low as it goes. > > The "nomal" mode renders the voi

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Voice encoding with low bit rates

2000-08-04 Thread Robert Hegemann
> > I have briefly tried the "--voice" mode and the "normal" mode when > > encoding a purely voice signal (with background noise) at 8kbps, and > > have been very impressed with the difference. I would like to compress > > the signal more... but 8 is as low as it goes. > > > > The "nomal" mode ren

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Voice encoding with low bit rates

2000-08-06 Thread Mark Taylor
> > I have briefly tried the "--voice" mode and the "normal" mode when > encoding a purely voice signal (with background noise) at 8kbps, and > have been very impressed with the difference. I would like to compress > the signal more... but 8 is as low as it goes. > > The "nomal" mode renders the