Re: [mb-style] Classical Composers vs Artists

2009-01-19 Thread Adam Golding
let's not forget that last.fm scrobbles by 'artist' not by 'composer' unless you're lucky enough to be using software that scrobbles by MBID 2009/1/19 Dave Smey autod...@davesmey.com On Mon, January 19, 2009 8:05 pm, Jason Longland wrote: Hi Guys, Just curious with the classical styling

[mb-style] Fwd: The return of [clean up CSG]??? (was: Re: CSG issues (was: 'Piano Sonata / Concerto' vs. 'Sonata / Concerto for Piano))

2009-01-08 Thread Adam Golding
Oops, i forgot to reply on list... -- Forwarded message -- From: Adam Golding adamgold...@gmail.com Date: 2009/1/8 Subject: Re: [mb-style] The return of [clean up CSG]??? (was: Re: CSG issues (was: 'Piano Sonata / Concerto' vs. 'Sonata / Concerto for Piano)) To: Brian Schweitzer

[mb-style] Fwd: The return of [clean up CSG]??? (was: Re: CSG issues (was: 'Piano Sonata / Concerto' vs. 'Sonata / Concerto for Piano))

2009-01-08 Thread Adam Golding
Also forgot to post this one to the whole list -- Forwarded message -- From: Adam Golding adamgold...@gmail.com Date: 2009/1/8 Subject: Re: [mb-style] The return of [clean up CSG]??? (was: Re: CSG issues (was: 'Piano Sonata / Concerto' vs. 'Sonata / Concerto for Piano

Re: [mb-style] The return of [clean up CSG]??? (was: Re: CSG issues (was: 'Piano Sonata / Concerto' vs. 'Sonata / Concerto for Piano))

2009-01-06 Thread Adam Golding
So what needs to be done to get works off the ground? I can't offer programming skills at this point, but I'd love to help with any of the (thorny) design issues.. 2009/1/6 Paul C. Bryan em...@pbryan.net +1 I'm convinced, especially if different track titles could be represented with

Re: [mb-style] The return of [clean up CSG]??? (was: Re: CSG issues (was: 'Piano Sonata / Concerto' vs. 'Sonata / Concerto for Piano))

2009-01-06 Thread Adam Golding
movement ;-) ) It must be able to express all the different meanings we give to the word work, including for example different versions. 2009/1/6 Adam Golding adamgold...@gmail.com So what needs to be done to get works off the ground? I can't offer programming skills at this point, but I'd

[mb-style] Classical Example? (And, detecting era with taggerscript)

2008-06-24 Thread Adam Golding
Can anyone point me to a classical release that is already particularly well tagged, replete with ARs and such? I'd like to test my scripts on it. ___ Musicbrainz-style mailing list Musicbrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org

Re: [mb-style] Classical: Multiple catalog numbers

2006-05-13 Thread Adam Golding
perhaps the most recent number should be used? this is usually when the catalog is *changed*OR we can use the number that was current at the time of the recordingor, just whatever's printed on the disc sleeve On 5/11/06, Frederic Da Vitoria [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Funny how things which never

Re: [mb-style] Classical Style Guide: Using Bach's work no. as prefix or suffix

2006-05-02 Thread Adam Golding
On 4/29/06, Frederic Da Vitoria [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2006/4/22, Adam Golding [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 4/12/06, Nathan Noble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How long are the scenes compared to the acts?(i've been to many operas, but never really looked at the act/scene structure etc.) we could

Re: [mb-style] very early composers

2006-04-25 Thread Adam Golding
in a lifespan for artist[anon.].Does Seikilos have any known compositions? If not then there isn't much need to make him anartist.I think both a name and composition would be needed for a performance under that artist to exist.-Nate--- Adam Golding [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what about 'anonymous' composers

Re: [mailing] Re: [mb-style] Classical common names

2006-04-23 Thread Adam Golding
this all moot?Catalogue numbers are prettyessential for regular classical works, and thereseems to be some consensus that it should be stored separately of the track.If we do that, who cares ifyou add it to an opera?-Nate--- Adam Golding [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/22/06, Marco Sola [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [mailing] Re: [mb-style] Classical common names

2006-04-22 Thread Adam Golding
On 4/22/06, Marco Sola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Adam Golding lol. you were discussing leaving the opus number out for operas Ah, sorry. butif we leave it out, where does it go? Nowhere, it's not needed nor useful: it's easy to find an opera by its (often very strange) name.and

Re: [mb-style] Classical common names

2006-04-21 Thread Adam Golding
On 4/19/06, Nathan Noble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Frederic Da Vitoria [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2006/4/19, Marco Sola [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I wish to add the following statement at the end of http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/ClassicalStyleGuide *'''Common names''' *It's the way the composers

Re: [mb-style] Classical Style Guide: Using Bach's work no. as prefix or suffix

2006-04-10 Thread Adam Golding
On 4/10/06, Nathan Noble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hmm probably not, so yes, we could use the catalogue numbers as actual index values in the DB, i suppose, but then the even higher level-groups, (i.e. group of different versions of a fugue with different catalogue numbers) would lack a catalogue

Re: [mb-style] Classical Style Guide: Using Bach's work no. as prefix or suffix

2006-04-10 Thread Adam Golding
on the release.I think in general for each new releaseof an opera you will have new works.I rarely see releases whose track names are entirescenes.Once or twice I've seen entire acts on one track.-Nate--- Adam Golding [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/10/06, Nathan Noble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:hmm probably

Re: [mb-style] Classical Style Guide: Using Bach's work no. as prefix or suffix

2006-04-10 Thread Adam Golding
On 4/10/06, Nathan Noble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: why would we have new works?we'd just have tracks mapping onto existing works in different ways. Terminology difference.I was considering tracks asworks which are part of higher-level works.I thinkyou view tracks as tracks that are part

Re: [mb-style] Classical Style Guide: Using Bach's work no. as prefix or suffix

2006-04-09 Thread Adam Golding
On 4/8/06, Frederic Da Vitoria [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2006/4/8, Adam Golding [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 4/7/06, Frederic Da Vitoria [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Re-reading this post... 2006/4/2, Adam Golding [EMAIL PROTECTED]: note that we also need a way to handle multiple publications

Re: [mb-style] Classical Style Guide: Using Bach's work no. as prefix or suffix

2006-04-07 Thread Adam Golding
On 4/7/06, Frederic Da Vitoria [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Re-reading this post...2006/4/2, Adam Golding [EMAIL PROTECTED]: note that we also need a way to handle multiple publications of a single work (they might have different metronome markings, for instance.. or even be in different keys)Do you

Re: [mb-style] Classical Style Guide: Using Bach's work no. as prefix or suffix

2006-04-04 Thread Adam Golding
On 4/3/06, Nathan Noble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you think the scope should be so broad?Remembertoo that someone has to find and enter all this data manually, which might be fine for Beethoven's fifth(though I sure wouldn't bother finding half of thatmetadata), but not so much fun or

Re: [mb-style] Classical Style Guide: Using Bach's work no. as prefix or suffix

2006-04-04 Thread Adam Golding
On 4/4/06, Nathan Noble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This would imply creating perhaps hundreds of sparselypopulated db columns, or a more sophisticated schemawith dynamic attributes.Performance has to beconsidered. i agreee this issue must be addressed. we would need input templated for various

Re: [mb-style] Classical Style Guide: Using Bach's work no. as prefix or suffix

2006-04-04 Thread Adam Golding
On 4/4/06, Nathan Noble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, is MB really supposed to be a music encyclopedia? what else would you call it?Hmm, a music metadata database?well, specifically music metadata. anyway, all the data i'm talking about is metadata... Ultimately, MB haslittle more info on

Re: [mb-style] new relationship type parody

2006-04-04 Thread Adam Golding
what about things like The Rutles songs, which parody groups of songs at once.. for isntance Hold My Hand is a parody of BOTH She Loves You and I Wanna Hold Your Hand--they're sort of merged together... should it be (X is a parody of Y) (X is a parody of Z)or X is a parody of (Y and Z)???On

Re: [mb-style] Classical Style Guide: Using Bach's work no. as prefix or suffix

2006-03-28 Thread Adam Golding
the real problem here is that we need separate fields for things like Opus number, BWV number, etc. On 3/22/06, Nathan Noble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would have no-voted this as well, were I to actuallyparticipate in votes...sigh.Here are my counter-arguments:I wouldn't call this a