Re: OT: OS definition thread

2002-03-29 Thread Michael Maibaum
On Fri, Mar 29, 2002 at 10:16:13PM -0700, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote: > Alas! Rocco Rutte spake thus: > > In Germany there's a campaign running to connect every school to the > > internet. IIRC, Microsoft and Compaq are involved by contributing > > hardware and software for free/for low price. So wha

Re: OT: OS definition thread

2002-03-29 Thread Rob 'Feztaa' Park
--1LKvkjL3sHcu1TtY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Rocco Rutte spake thus: > In Germany there's a campaign running to connect every school to the > internet. IIRC, Microsoft and Compaq are involved by contri

Re: X-Mailer header

2002-03-29 Thread Rob 'Feztaa' Park
--gKMricLos+KVdGMg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Sven Guckes spake thus: $ Sven [and *dont* touch indent_prefix or sigdashes!] Why ever not?? :D $=20 $ --=20 $ Intolerant people should be shot. %%%

Re: OT: OS definition thread

2002-03-29 Thread Rocco Rutte
Hi, On Fri, Mar 29, 2002 at 12:51:00:PM -0700 Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote: > Well, every high school in north america would have you think that > without a start button, a computer is completely useless and broken. In Germany there's a campaign running to connect every school to the internet. IIRC,

Re: gpg-key probs

2002-03-29 Thread Rocco Rutte
Hi, On Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 04:14:23:PM -0500 David T-G wrote: > Are there just one or two, or are there a bunch, or does anyone really > know? Do the servers in a given network synchronize with each other, or > do even they have problems? ,[ /home/pdmef/.gnupg/options ]- | | # Options for

smime_keys

2002-03-29 Thread Rocco Rutte
Hey, I finally had some time to left to set up S/MIME with Mutt 1.5.0 on Debian and FreeBSD. According to the documentation, I initially try to run 'smime_keys init'. The sample smime.rc is sourced in .muttrc, OpenSSL is installed on both systems. In fact, on FreeBSD (and this is extraordinary s

Re: X-Mailer header

2002-03-29 Thread Sven Guckes
* Michael Elkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > X-Mailer is now deprecated in favor of User-Agent. > Thus, Mutt weeds any x-mailer fields it finds in the > header and replaces it with its own User-Agent field. * David Collantes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-03-29 19:38]: > I still do not understand. If I am

Re: Signature report

2002-03-29 Thread Mike Schiraldi
> However, there is still the status bar to help in the confirmation (and > designed for that purpose). If i write a message to the mutt list, sign it with my key, and forge a from header that makes it appear to come from you, the status bar will display, "PGP signature successfully verified."

Re: Signature report

2002-03-29 Thread Justin R. Miller
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Said Mike Schiraldi on Fri, Mar 29, 2002 at 02:41:09PM -0500: > > Is there anywy to get mutt putting the gpg/pgp signature check > > report 'after' the message, instead of top? > > That could be bad, as people could end their email with a fake repor

Re: Macro doesn't push enter

2002-03-29 Thread darren chamberlain
* Robert Conde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-03-29 14:58]: > macro index I "!\r" works fine, but > macro generic I "!\r" gives me the error > hange-folder>=! is not a mailbox. Is there a function in the generic set for change-folder? I didn't see one. (darren) -- If I worked as much as others I

Re: Macro doesn't push enter

2002-03-29 Thread Will Yardley
Robert Conde wrote: > macro index I "!\r" works fine, but > macro generic I "!\r" gives me the error > hange-folder>=! is not a mailbox. > > > Why's that? well change-folder doesn't work in all sections; try just using the macro in the index and pager. you can't change folders (AFAIK) from t

Re: Macro doesn't push enter

2002-03-29 Thread Robert Conde
macro index I "!\r" works fine, but macro generic I "!\r" gives me the error hange-folder>=! is not a mailbox. Why's that? -R On Fri, Mar 29, 2002 at 11:32:41AM -0800, Will Yardley wrote: > Robert Conde wrote: > > > I have the following line in my muttrc file so that I can quickly open > >

Re: Macro doesn't push enter

2002-03-29 Thread Robert Conde
That works. Thanks. -R On Fri, Mar 29, 2002 at 11:32:41AM -0800, Will Yardley wrote: > Robert Conde wrote: > > > I have the following line in my muttrc file so that I can quickly open > > the spool file with alt-1 (I have set meta_key). > > > > macro generic 1 ":push c!" "open spool file

Re: OT: OS definition thread

2002-03-29 Thread Rob 'Feztaa' Park
--0vzXIDBeUiKkjNJl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Shawn McMahon spake thus: > This isn't my opinion, this is basic computer science. What are they > teaching you kids in those schools these days? Well, ev

Re: Signature report

2002-03-29 Thread Mike Schiraldi
> Is there anywy to get mutt putting the gpg/pgp signature check report > 'after' the message, instead of top? That could be bad, as people could end their email with a fake report and a bunch of ~s. -- Mike Schiraldi VeriSign Applied Research msg26396/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signatur

Re: OT: OS / distro / kernel

2002-03-29 Thread Rob 'Feztaa' Park
--cvVnyQ+4j833TQvp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Kai Blin spake thus: > You mean like emacs? That nice OS with the bad editor? Hey, did you know that you can actually run Vim from inside Emacs? Now Emacs

Re: OT: OS definition thread

2002-03-29 Thread Mike Schiraldi
> > No, not really. It's marketing. > > The definition of OS isn't marketing, it's Computer Science. It's > been presented. It agrees with what I said. Get over it. Okay, i think this argument is finished. I'll summarize: Some people believe that the Operating System is the kernel plus

Re: Why is http address attachet to header?

2002-03-29 Thread Rob 'Feztaa' Park
--mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Jerome De Greef spake thus: > > So, that is correct behavior from the mailer, and incorrect behavior > > from the user. :-) >=20 > I don't know if it's onl

Re: X-Mailer header

2002-03-29 Thread David Collantes
On 03-29-2002 at 12:48 EST, Michael Elkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > was not kept after a message was postponed. The guy who closed the bug said > > that Mutt expects that header to be generated by itself (Mutt), so it will > > take it out when postponing. My question is, what variable tel

Signature report

2002-03-29 Thread ais
Is there anywy to get mutt putting the gpg/pgp signature check report 'after' the message, instead of top? -- ais, ais/at/pobox/dot/com Registered Linux User #93375 - - - 2:348/610@fidonet GnuPG key: 1024D/5C4839A5 2002-02-07 There's a race between programmers making better idiot-proof SW, v

Re: Macro doesn't push enter

2002-03-29 Thread Will Yardley
Robert Conde wrote: > I have the following line in my muttrc file so that I can quickly open > the spool file with alt-1 (I have set meta_key). > > macro generic 1 ":push c!" "open spool file" > > It almost works. I have to type alt-1 . It isn't pushing > enter for me. What's up with that???

Re: OT: OS definition thread

2002-03-29 Thread David Champion
* On 2002.03.29, in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, * "Shawn McMahon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > begin quoting what David Champion said on Fri, Mar 29, 2002 at 12:58:32PM -0600: > > No, not really. It's marketing. > > The definition of OS isn't marketing, it's Computer Science. It's > been present

Macro doesn't push enter

2002-03-29 Thread Robert Conde
I have the following line in my muttrc file so that I can quickly open the spool file with alt-1 (I have set meta_key). macro generic 1 ":push c!" "open spool file" It almost works. I have to type alt-1 . It isn't pushing enter for me. What's up with that -R -- Robert S Conde PGP Key:

Re: OT: OS definition thread

2002-03-29 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what David Champion said on Fri, Mar 29, 2002 at 12:58:32PM -0600: > No, not really. It's marketing. The definition of OS isn't marketing, it's Computer Science. It's been presented. It agrees with what I said. Get over it. msg26387/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: OT: OS definition thread

2002-03-29 Thread David Champion
* On 2002.03.29, in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, * "Shawn McMahon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > SunOS 5.8 is a component of the Solaris operating environment. Guess > what OS stands for? SunOS 5.8 is the KERNEL, not the operating > environment. That's not actually true. "SunOS" refers to the k

Re: Debian package with trash

2002-03-29 Thread Benoit Friry
Michael Montagne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > It appears that the trash folder patch did not make it into the latest > "testing" version at Debian.org. Version 1.3.28-1. Are there any .deb > files out there with this patch included? I maintain a Debian package for Mutt: I take the official Debian

Debian package with trash

2002-03-29 Thread Michael Montagne
It appears that the trash folder patch did not make it into the latest "testing" version at Debian.org. Version 1.3.28-1. Are there any .deb files out there with this patch included? -- Michael Montagne [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.boora.com

Re: X-Mailer header

2002-03-29 Thread Michael Elkins
David Collantes wrote: > On submitted bug (now closed I believe) I stated that the X-Mailer header > was not kept after a message was postponed. The guy who closed the bug said > that Mutt expects that header to be generated by itself (Mutt), so it will > take it out when postponing. My questio

Re: M$ Outhouse E. for UNIX

2002-03-29 Thread Michael Tatge
Thomas E. Dickey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered: > "experience" is another of those words, that in the context of > advertising, is a guarantee that the author is an idiot and should be > ignored. Beaten is the term that comes to my mind. ;-) HTH, Michael -- PGP-Key: http://www-stud.ims.uni-stu

Re: X-Mailer header

2002-03-29 Thread Will Yardley
David Collantes wrote: > > On submitted bug (now closed I believe) I stated that the X-Mailer header > was not kept after a message was postponed. The guy who closed the bug said > that Mutt expects that header to be generated by itself (Mutt), so it will > take it out when postponing. My ques

X-Mailer header

2002-03-29 Thread David Collantes
Hi there! On submitted bug (now closed I believe) I stated that the X-Mailer header was not kept after a message was postponed. The guy who closed the bug said that Mutt expects that header to be generated by itself (Mutt), so it will take it out when postponing. My question is, what variable

Re: wrong date / time in emails

2002-03-29 Thread Michael Tatge
cruciatuz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered: > yes, i am located in central-germany. > i started "setup" on my mandrake-box and i could choose a timezone. > i selected "MET". (isn't it better to select Europe/Berlin as timezone?) > now, date says: Don Mär 28 12:48:37 UTC 2002 >

OT: OS definition thread

2002-03-29 Thread Shawn McMahon
Just to throw a little fuel on the fire: Look in the Sun training catalog, at how they define the products themselves. "Solaris 8 Operating Environment". Look at their web page: http://www.sun.com/solaris/ They call it the same thing. Then do a uname -a on a Solaris 8 system: SunOS chtsjs01

Re: Why is http address attachet to header?

2002-03-29 Thread Jerome De Greef
* Shawn McMahon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > begin quoting what Patrik Modesto said on Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 10:24:42AM +0100: > > I create new message, then to the first empty line under header i write > > http://www.something.com and send this mail. This address is send as a > > part of email's

Re: OT: OS / distro / kernel

2002-03-29 Thread Kai Blin
* Ricardo SIGNES <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [28/03/02, 11:45:42]: [...] > The question of which is right is probably flame material. We both have our > reasons to say we're right. Based on something like Bach's "Design of the UNIX > Operating System," the kernel is technically the OS. Based on the d