Re: patch to force pgp_create_traditional on non-us-ascii mails (was: application/pgp breaks Pine, too (was: applying pgp-outlook patch))

2002-01-28 Thread Viktor Rosenfeld
Dale Woolridge wrote: In particular, I removed the 'filename=msg.pgp' (use_disp = 0) and decided against having an additional variable to force traditional use with 8bit messages. Instead, p_c_t is always consulted even when the content is 8bit.

Re: patch to force pgp_create_traditional on non-us-ascii mails (was: application/pgp breaks Pine, too (was: applying pgp-outlook patch))

2002-01-22 Thread David Shaw
On Sun, Jan 20, 2002 at 12:46:36PM -0500, Dale Woolridge wrote: On 12-Jan-2002 19:08 Viktor Rosenfeld wrote: | | One thing though: Somewhere the following header is created: | | Content-Disposition: inline; filename=msg.pgp | | This causes Outlook to show an attachment where there

Re: patch to force pgp_create_traditional on non-us-ascii mails (was: application/pgp breaks Pine, too (was: applying pgp-outlook patch))

2002-01-22 Thread Dale Woolridge
On 22-Jan-2002 11:05 David Shaw wrote: | |Create an application/pgp message? ([yes]/no): | | Since it's not an application/pgp message at this point, the prompt | should probably be something else. Thanks for the input David. In my haste, I forgot to update the messages to reflect

Re: patch to force pgp_create_traditional on non-us-ascii mails (was: application/pgp breaks Pine, too (was: applying pgp-outlook patch))

2002-01-20 Thread Dale Woolridge
On 12-Jan-2002 19:08 Viktor Rosenfeld wrote: | | One thing though: Somewhere the following header is created: | | Content-Disposition: inline; filename=msg.pgp | | This causes Outlook to show an attachment where there obviously is | none. Could this be safely ommited? Viktor, I was

Re: patch to force pgp_create_traditional on non-us-ascii mails (was: application/pgp breaks Pine, too (was: applying pgp-outlook patch))

2002-01-13 Thread Paul Walker
On Sat, Jan 12, 2002 at 12:58:54AM +0100, Cristian wrote: This Email is signed the same way as described above. So you can try to verify it with whatever you use. I don't know about PGP/Outlook, but I just tried (piping your email direct into GPG), and got this: gpg: CRC error; 947beb -

Re: patch to force pgp_create_traditional on non-us-ascii mails (was: application/pgp breaks Pine, too (was: applying pgp-outlook patch))

2002-01-12 Thread Cristian
On Sat, Jan 12, 2002 at 04:27:34PM +, Paul Walker wrote: I just tried (piping your email direct into GPG), and got this: gpg: CRC error; 947beb - dc3947 gpg: quoted printable character in armor - probably a buggy MTA has been used So something still needs some more work. (I'm using

Re: patch to force pgp_create_traditional on non-us-ascii mails (was: application/pgp breaks Pine, too (was: applying pgp-outlook patch))

2002-01-12 Thread David Ellement
On 020112, at 16:27:34, Paul Walker wrote On Sat, Jan 12, 2002 at 12:58:54AM +0100, Cristian wrote: This Email is signed the same way as described above. So you can try to verify it with whatever you use. I just tried (piping your email direct into GPG), and got this: gpg: CRC error;

Re: patch to force pgp_create_traditional on non-us-ascii mails (was: application/pgp breaks Pine, too (was: applying pgp-outlook patch))

2002-01-12 Thread Viktor Rosenfeld
Cristian wrote: On Sat, Jan 12, 2002 at 04:27:34PM +, Paul Walker wrote: I just tried (piping your email direct into GPG), and got this: gpg: CRC error; 947beb - dc3947 gpg: quoted printable character in armor - probably a buggy MTA has been used So something still needs some

Re: patch to force pgp_create_traditional on non-us-ascii mails (was: application/pgp breaks Pine, too (was: applying pgp-outlook patch))

2002-01-11 Thread David T-G
Viktor -- ...and then Viktor Rosenfeld said... % % [CC'd to mutt-dev b/c of attached patch, I'm not on mutt-dev, so please % CC me in replies] I trust that's not required for mutt-users... % % Cristian wrote: % % What has confused a few people is the fact that the patch is effective %

Re: patch to force pgp_create_traditional on non-us-ascii mails (was: application/pgp breaks Pine, too (was: applying pgp-outlook patch))

2002-01-11 Thread Viktor Rosenfeld
Hi David, David T-G wrote: How, however, is the proposed behavior (making $p_c_t generate a text/plain instead of an application/pgp message) different from what we have now with $p_c_t and $p_o_c? Note that I don't say that it fixes the problem you bring up, but it will fix the problem as

Re: patch to force pgp_create_traditional on non-us-ascii mails (was: application/pgp breaks Pine, too (was: applying pgp-outlook patch))

2002-01-11 Thread Cristian
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Viktor, I agree with everything you say (though I do hope the story about rebinding the y-key was a joke). Your patch is important for the wide-spread use of PGP in non-english communication. I just checked that with your patch, I can finally use Mutt to sign

Re: patch to force pgp_create_traditional on non-us-ascii mails (was: application/pgp breaks Pine, too (was: applying pgp-outlook patch))

2002-01-11 Thread Viktor Rosenfeld
Hi Christian, I agree with everything you say (though I do hope the story about rebinding the y-key was a joke). Your patch is important for the wide-spread use of PGP in non-english communication. Why? It's the best I could come up with. I just checked that with your patch, I can

Re: application/pgp breaks Pine, too (was: applying pgp-outlook patch)

2002-01-10 Thread David T-G
Jeremy, et al -- ...and then Jeremy Blosser said... % % On Jan 09, David T-G [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: % ...and then Jeremy Blosser said... % % So have any of you guys filed this as an actual bug against mutt yet? ... % Or at least I figured that someone else would do it, particularly since

application/pgp breaks Pine, too (was: applying pgp-outlook patch)

2002-01-09 Thread Cristian
Hi Mutt PGP users, hello to the Mutt developers, nobody seems to notice that not only Outlook gets confused by application/pgp messages -- Pine cannot handle them, too! That means that with an unpatched Mutt it is impossible to create PGP signed or encrypted emails for Outlook or Pine users,

Re: application/pgp breaks Pine, too (was: applying pgp-outlook patch)

2002-01-09 Thread Nick Wilson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then on 09-01-02 13:03 Cristian said All PGP users I know either use Pine or Outlook, so as far as I am concerned, (unpatched) Mutt's PGP support is currently only usable for the Mutt mailing lists -- no matter how

Re: application/pgp breaks Pine, too (was: applying pgp-outlook patch)

2002-01-09 Thread John Perry
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 12:56:53PM +0100, Cristian wrote: I think this issue is a strong point in favour of ME's suggestion: On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 10:40:53AM -0800, Michael Elkins wrote: At this point I have to agree with this sentiment.

Re: application/pgp breaks Pine, too (was: applying pgp-outlook patch)

2002-01-09 Thread John Perry
On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 07:27:20AM -0500, Ken Wahl wrote: A gentleman in news:comp.mail.mutt posted these Vim bindings a couple of days ago which allow you to (d)encrypt, clearsign, or both directly in Vim. Thereby keeping the text/plain mime-type. Might this be a temporary workaround, at

Re: application/pgp breaks Pine, too (was: applying pgp-outlook patch)

2002-01-09 Thread Nick Wilson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * On 09-01-02 at 14:03 * John Perry said I really hope this happens. The application/pgp MIME type is ok but it's ahead of it's time. I too use a macro in Vim to handle GPG. It would be great if Mutt itself would use text/plain. The

Re: application/pgp breaks Pine, too (was: applying pgp-outlook patch)

2002-01-09 Thread Cristian
Hi, of course it is possible to create traditional PGP messages in a decent editor. I just successfully tried to use the Mailcrypt package for Emacs when editing a message for Mutt in post.el mode. There's just one caveat: I had to set noedit_headers to avoid signing the headers as well. I

Re: application/pgp breaks Pine, too (was: applying pgp-outlook patch)

2002-01-09 Thread John Perry
On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 02:06:06PM +0100, Nick Wilson wrote: * On 09-01-02 at 14:03 * John Perry said I really hope this happens. The application/pgp MIME type is ok but it's ahead of it's time. I too use a macro in Vim to handle GPG. It would be great if Mutt itself would

Re: application/pgp breaks Pine, too (was: applying pgp-outlook patch)

2002-01-09 Thread Nick Wilson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * On 09-01-02 at 15:05 * John Perry said Did I miss a patch for this? Guess I was reading my mail too fast. Can someone point me to it? Hi I hope were talking about the same thing, I'm very new to mutt. I mean the pgp_outlook_compat patch

Re: application/pgp breaks Pine, too (was: applying pgp-outlook patch)

2002-01-09 Thread Jeremy Blosser
On Jan 09, Nick Wilson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: All PGP users I know either use Pine or Outlook, so as far as I am concerned, (unpatched) Mutt's PGP support is currently only usable for the Mutt mailing lists -- no matter how pgp_create_traditional is set. Time for a change of policy

Re: application/pgp breaks Pine, too (was: applying pgp-outlook patch)

2002-01-09 Thread David T-G
Jeremy -- ...and then Jeremy Blosser said... % % On Jan 09, Nick Wilson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: % All PGP users I know either use Pine or Outlook, so as far as I am % concerned, (unpatched) Mutt's PGP support is currently only usable for % the Mutt mailing lists -- no matter how

Re: application/pgp breaks Pine, too (was: applying pgp-outlook patch)

2002-01-09 Thread Jeremy Blosser
On Jan 09, David T-G [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: ...and then Jeremy Blosser said... % So have any of you guys filed this as an actual bug against mutt yet? % Talking about it in the mailing lists is a lot less guaranteed to be seen, % to say the least. No, we leave that up to people who

Re: application/pgp breaks Pine, too (was: applying pgp-outlook patch)

2002-01-09 Thread Jonathan Irving
Nick Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [09 Jan 2002 15:08 +0100]: * On 09-01-02 at 15:05 * John Perry said Did I miss a patch for this? Guess I was reading my mail too fast. Can someone point me to it? Hi I hope were talking about the same thing, I'm very new to mutt. I mean the

Re: application/pgp breaks Pine, too (was: applying pgp-outlook patch)

2002-01-09 Thread Cristian
On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 02:47:50PM -0800, Jonathan Irving wrote: Yes, but as has been pointed out a number of times, the patch does not cause the MIME type to be set to text/plain. This is just wrong. Setting the mime type to text/plain instead of application/pgp is the very purpose of the

Re: application/pgp breaks Pine, too (was: applying pgp-outlook patch)

2002-01-09 Thread Jonathan Irving
Cristian [EMAIL PROTECTED] [10 Jan 2002 00:04 +0100]: On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 02:47:50PM -0800, Jonathan Irving wrote: Yes, but as has been pointed out a number of times, the patch does not cause the MIME type to be set to text/plain. This is just wrong. Setting the mime type to

Re: application/pgp breaks Pine, too (was: applying pgp-outlook patch)

2002-01-09 Thread Nick Wilson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * On 10-01-02 at 08:11 * Cristian said This is just wrong. Setting the mime type to text/plain instead of application/pgp is the very purpose of the ``PGP Outlook compatibility patch'' (which I call ``PGP compatibility patch''). What has