Re: Let's approach stored procedures

2001-09-13 Thread Arnulf Kristiansen
James Clifford wrote: > newbie DB developer question > Are stored procedures scripts or compiled code ? > James > It can be either. Compiled code generally offers greater performance while something that has to be accepted by an interpreter will be more robust, provided the interpreter is solid

Re: Let's approach stored procedures

2001-09-13 Thread Arnulf Kristiansen
Endre Stølsvik wrote: > On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Arnulf Kristiansen wrote: > > | I have just started to look into the stored procedure issue. We will come up with a > | definite plan within a short period of time. > > But does this mean that you won't welcome any other initiative or ideas > from oth

Re: Let's approach stored procedures

2001-09-12 Thread James Clifford
newbie DB developer question Are stored procedures scripts or compiled code ? James - Original Message - From: "Endre Stølsvik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Arnulf Kristiansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 20

Re: Let's approach stored procedures

2001-09-12 Thread Endre Stølsvik
On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Arnulf Kristiansen wrote: | I have just started to look into the stored procedure issue. We will come up with a | definite plan within a short period of time. But does this mean that you won't welcome any other initiative or ideas from other programmers? | | It is true that

Re: Let's approach stored procedures

2001-09-11 Thread Claudio Cicali
At 09:40 AM 9/11/01 +0200, Arnulf Kristiansen wrote: >I have just started to look into the stored procedure issue. We will come >up with a >definite plan within a short period of time. > >It is true that there are solutions that would make transitions from >another DBMS to MySQL >easier however,

Re: Let's approach stored procedures

2001-09-11 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 10:23:10AM +0200, Endre Stølsvik wrote: > > The proprietary issues might of course be a huge problem. Anyone > knows anything about this? Well, the PostreSQL folks managed to implement a stored procedure language that looks, feels, and acts remarkably like Oracle's. So i

Re: Let's approach stored procedures

2001-09-11 Thread Arnulf Kristiansen
I have just started to look into the stored procedure issue. We will come up with a definite plan within a short period of time. It is true that there are solutions that would make transitions from another DBMS to MySQL easier however, I am leaning towards the ANSI standard rather than PL/SQL or

Re: Let's approach stored procedures

2001-09-10 Thread Dana Powers
> Depending on the way you define things, MIN and MAX are essentially > stored procedures that were programmed into MySQL. Why not let us make > our own? This is already possible with Aggregate UDF 's. Check the manual here: http://www.mysql.com/doc/A/d/Adding_functions.html dpk -

Re: Let's approach stored procedures

2001-09-10 Thread Endre Stølsvik
On Fri, 7 Sep 2001, Robert Alexander wrote: | Hi Claudio, | | I think having the functionality of stored procedures would be a | wonderful addition to MySQL. Let me be the first to say a hearty | 'Thank you!' for your very generous offer to devote your vacation time | to this task. I definately

Re: Let's approach stored procedures

2001-09-10 Thread Frank Fisher
Adams, Bill TQO wrote: > The other thing about all of this is that MySQL is feature rich so most people > might not have a use for stored procedures. Unlike, say, Informix which has > not build in MIN or MAX function. Depending on the way you define things, MIN and MAX are essentially stored

RE: Let's approach stored procedures

2001-09-07 Thread Robert Alexander
Hi Claudio, I think having the functionality of stored procedures would be a wonderful addition to MySQL. Let me be the first to say a hearty 'Thank you!' for your very generous offer to devote your vacation time to this task. I like Oracle's PL/SQL. I've used it a fair amount, and it get's th

Re: Let's approach stored procedures

2001-09-07 Thread Dana Powers
>Claudio Cicali ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes: > - where I work, we have a HUGE database-driven web-application. A lot of >our businness logic is implemented via stored procedures, that >act as black boxes for the web-designers. >Think of enterprise java beans. >They are not "nonsense

RE: Let's approach stored procedures

2001-09-07 Thread Ed Carp
> Since the current version of MySQL is open source you could write stored > procedures in the same language used in (until recently) DB2, i.e., C. I Why reinvent the wheel? MySQL already has user-defined function capability in C. > Related question, what language or psuedo language would be us

Re: Let's approach stored procedures

2001-09-07 Thread Cal Evans
September 07, 2001 11:27 Subject: Re: Let's approach stored procedures > On Fri, 7 Sep 2001, Cal Evans wrote: > > > Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 11:05:27 -0500 > > From: Cal Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ed Carp <[EMAIL P

Re: Let's approach stored procedures

2001-09-07 Thread Adams, Bill TQO
Cal Evans wrote: > Stored procedures allow you to pre-compile and re-use code easily. They also > make transactions easier. (At least from one point of view) It's not like > the XML argument. SPs are also part of the ANSI spec so to be compliant, > MySQL will have to have them. XML is not part of

Re: Let's approach stored procedures

2001-09-07 Thread William R. Mussatto
On Fri, 7 Sep 2001, Cal Evans wrote: > Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 11:05:27 -0500 > From: Cal Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ed Carp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Let's approach stored procedures > > Ed, > > Store

Re: Let's approach stored procedures

2001-09-07 Thread Cal Evans
- Original Message - From: "Ed Carp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 11:14 Subject: Re: Let's approach stored procedures > Cal Evans ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes: > > > Stick with

RE: Let's approach stored procedures

2001-09-07 Thread Claudio Cicali
At 11.03 07/09/2001 -0500, Ed Carp wrote: > > - it's cool > >Not a valid business reason. > > > - where I work, we have a HUGE database-driven web-application. A lot of > >our business logic is implemented via stored procedures, that > >act as black boxes for the web-designers. > >Thin

Re: Let's approach stored procedures

2001-09-07 Thread Ed Carp
Cal Evans ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes: > Stick with the ANSI standard. (ANSI99?) Do not try to implement either > PL/SQL or T/SQL. Please do not implement PERL (or Python) , Java, PHP or any > other procedural or OO language in stored procedures. Speaking form > experience, all this does is blur

Re: Let's approach stored procedures

2001-09-07 Thread Cal Evans
spec. IMHO, Cal * * Cal Evans * Senior Internet Dreamer * http://www.calevans.com * - Original Message - From: "Ed Carp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 10:44 Subject: Re: Let's approach stored

RE: Let's approach stored procedures

2001-09-07 Thread Ed Carp
> - it's cool Not a valid business reason. > - where I work, we have a HUGE database-driven web-application. A lot of >our business logic is implemented via stored procedures, that >act as black boxes for the web-designers. >Think of enterprise java beans. >They are not "nonsense

Re: Let's approach stored procedures

2001-09-07 Thread Cal Evans
icali" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 10:30 Subject: Let's approach stored procedures > > I think this is a little OT here, so after reading please > indicate me where to talk about this subject. > > I'm a skil

Re: Let's approach stored procedures

2001-09-07 Thread Claudio Cicali
At 10.44 07/09/2001 -0500, Ed Carp wrote: >Claudio Cicali ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes: > > > At a first glance, I think Oracle PL/SQL is the best (afaik) > > programming language for sp, but, in the case we implement > > that language, should we go against some Oracle copytight > > infringment ? >

Re: Let's approach stored procedures

2001-09-07 Thread Ed Carp
Claudio Cicali ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes: > At a first glance, I think Oracle PL/SQL is the best (afaik) > programming language for sp, but, in the case we implement > that language, should we go against some Oracle copytight > infringment ? Why would you want to do such a thing? Isn't SQL good

Re: Let's approach stored procedures

2001-09-07 Thread Adams, Bill TQO
Claudio Cicali wrote: > I'm going to attend a long period of holidays (finally) so, > I thought: why don't try to implement stored procedures > in mysql ? > Someone did it with perl. http://software.tangent.org/article.pl?sid=01/08/23/0817244&mode=thread&threshold= > At a first glance, I think

Let's approach stored procedures

2001-09-07 Thread Claudio Cicali
I think this is a little OT here, so after reading please indicate me where to talk about this subject. I'm a skilled programmer in C, C++ and others progr. lang. I have also a solid background in SQL and some RDMS (DB2, Oracle, SQLServer, and of course, Mysql). I'm going to attend a long perio