Re: NailTech:: Re:poor little Gelish-just like highschool

2010-04-30 Thread Manicures That Last
At 11:30 AM 4/30/2010, you wrote: Priming is only really needed at the free edge to prevent separation, however, even that isn't necessary. I've done a set with no primer at all (because I forgot) and everything was fine. I think the best way to prevent separation at the free edge is to make

Re: NailTech:: Observations (so far) with Shellac

2010-04-30 Thread Jess in WA
I wonder if Akzentz base n gloss will work over it - might keep it more flexible so it doesn't crack (since Akzentz SOG don't crack). Im waiting on the Shellac top gloss... gotta test it all the way they made it! Interested in seeing if it really works well over a shiny nail as it says. :) On A

Re: NailTech:: Re:poor little Gelish-just like highschool

2010-04-30 Thread lynnette59
Elena, That is a GOOD thing for those who want it to stick. I just like how without the primer it just peels away gently with the e-file!! And now that I am typing this, I wonder if primer is also part of what I cannot have on my nails and is helping the cause of my nails lifting off the nailbed

Re: NailTech:: Re:poor little Gelish-just like highschool

2010-04-30 Thread Angela R Wingerter
Thanks Rhonda.   Angie Wingerter From: Rhonda Kibuk To: nailtech@googlegroups.com Sent: Fri, April 30, 2010 6:18:03 PM Subject: Re: NailTech:: Re:poor little Gelish-just like highschool Angela, when I say prep the cuticles, I mean push them back and remove an

Re: NailTech:: Re:poor little Gelish-just like highschool

2010-04-30 Thread Rhonda Kibuk
Angela, when I say prep the cuticles, I mean push them back and remove any no-living tissue that may be present on the nail. R On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 12:36 PM, Angela R Wingerter < awinger...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > When you say "prep the cuticles" do you mean push back, remover ect. or > app

Re: NailTech:: Re:poor little Gelish-just like highschool

2010-04-30 Thread Elena Desmonie Star Nail Educ ator Posh Nails of Plainview , NY
I don't have any issues filing IR soaking when I use primer...that us odd. Elena lynnett...@tmo.blackberry.net wrote: >UH OH!! >Ann Marie used primer on me and I had a heck of a time removing it with my >e-file!!! >Primer on edges only for me! >Buenos dias, >Lynnette >http://www.facebook.com/n

Re: NailTech:: Re:poor little Gelish-just like highschool

2010-04-30 Thread Lisa Cianciotti
Thanks for the input, I thought it was just me.   Lisa   From: "hlaure...@comcast.net" To: nailtech@googlegroups.com Sent: Fri, April 30, 2010 4:05:07 PM Subject: Re: NailTech:: Re:poor little Gelish-just like highschool I'ved tried TT SO and hated it.  It wa

Re: NailTech:: Re:poor little Gelish-just like highschool

2010-04-30 Thread Lisa Cianciotti
Thanks Lynnette, that's probably why I had trouble filing off the set I did on Thursday, I used primer on the whole nail.  I have lately been using it on the free edge only, or not remembering to use it at all.  I will see if there is a difference with those clients.  I do use alcohol, works gre

Re: NailTech:: SOG French

2010-04-30 Thread Lisa Cianciotti
This is how I do a french SO with Star Eco.   I start with the pinky on the left hand.   I do the base, cure, wipe with dry brush, pink, cure, apply white (I brush it on like regular polish, it self-levels well) swipe smile line, flash cure, go to right pinky while left is flash curing and rotat

Re: NailTech:: Observations (so far) with Shellac

2010-04-30 Thread Becky
It sounds to me like where you saw that crack all the way through, the nail probably should/would have broken. So perhaps you have found a bonus selling point ;-) On 4/30/10, Heather Lackey wrote: > All the way through. > > Sent from my iPod > > On Apr 30, 2010, at 3:47 PM, lynnett...@tmo.blackbe

Re: NailTech:: Re:poor little Gelish-just like highschool

2010-04-30 Thread HLAURETTE
I'ved tried TT SO and hated it.  It was literally like rubber and peeled off way too easily. - Original Message - From: "Lisa Cianciotti" To: nailtech@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 3:59:10 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: NailTech:: Re:poor little Ge

Re: NailTech:: Re:poor little Gelish-just like highschool

2010-04-30 Thread lynnette59
Lisa, NO primer at all. I only use it on the free edge and honestly, never had problems when I did not use it. I use alcohol to clean and dehydrate. Just plain ole Walmart brand. Buenos dias, Lynnette http://www.facebook.com/nailtech Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message

Re: NailTech:: Re:poor little Gelish-just like highschool

2010-04-30 Thread Lisa Cianciotti
I know that the Eco doesn't require primer, but are you not using primer on the Nailite and the OPI as well, Lynnette?  If anyone has tried or is using the SO from TT, I used it without primer and it peeled right off.  Anyone else?  Just my findings.      Lisa Cianciotti Simply Polished Studio f

Re: NailTech:: Observations (so far) with Shellac

2010-04-30 Thread Heather Lackey
All the way through. Sent from my iPod On Apr 30, 2010, at 3:47 PM, lynnett...@tmo.blackberry.net wrote: Heather, Is it, do you think, the top coat that is cracking? Or is it all the way through? Buenos dias, Lynnette http://www.facebook.com/nailtech Sent via BlackBerry from T- Mobil

Re: NailTech:: Re:poor little Gelish-just like highschool

2010-04-30 Thread lynnette59
UH OH!! Ann Marie used primer on me and I had a heck of a time removing it with my e-file!!! Primer on edges only for me! Buenos dias, Lynnette http://www.facebook.com/nailtech Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Elena Desmonie Star Nail Educ ator Posh Nail

Re: NailTech:: Observations (so far) with Shellac

2010-04-30 Thread lynnette59
Heather, Is it, do you think, the top coat that is cracking? Or is it all the way through? Buenos dias, Lynnette http://www.facebook.com/nailtech Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Heather Lackey Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 14:09:28 To: nailtech@googlegroups.com

NailTech:: Observations (so far) with Shellac

2010-04-30 Thread Heather Lackey
I have been messing around with Shellac for just over a week now. Some things I have observed so far on the application I did on myself on the 20th: Still pretty shiny The stuff is very flexible so I have a few spots where it has crackedno chipping though. I tried to use the color over

Re: NailTech:: Re:poor little Gelish-just like highschool

2010-04-30 Thread Elena Desmonie Star Nail Educ ator Posh Nails of Plainview , NY
Primer is not the enemy...lol...I have no problem using a primer on clients. You do not have to use it with the Eco...just really make sure you dehydrate really well Eleba -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NailTech" group. To post to this group, sen

Re: NailTech:: SOG French

2010-04-30 Thread Angela R Wingerter
I use the CND white gel in a bottle so the brush is just like a polish brush. When that runs out I am going to save the bottle just to use for the brush with other whites. Someone on here said they do this. Thanks. I also have a brush from LE that is for perfecting your smile line and I will use

Re: NailTech:: SOG French

2010-04-30 Thread Angela R Wingerter
Rhonda, I flash for at least 10 seconds. Works great for me.   Angie Wingerter From: Rhonda Kibuk To: nailtech@googlegroups.com Sent: Fri, April 30, 2010 10:28:09 AM Subject: Re: NailTech:: SOG French Lynnette, if it was just the surface of the whites I wo

Re: NailTech:: Re:poor little Gelish-just like highschool

2010-04-30 Thread Angela R Wingerter
When you say "prep the cuticles" do you mean push back, remover ect. or apply oil to protect from acetone? I haven't tried soaking yet. I have only filed and it is taking me to long so maybe I need to try this. I have been to afraid of soaking in acetone due to drying the nails out. I wonder if

Re: NailTech:: Pricing for SO- was SHELLAC ATTACK

2010-04-30 Thread Angela R Wingerter
We all should charge what we are comfortable with and feel is fair in our area. If we have a full book and a waiting list then why not raise your prices. It only makes sense. A few might not be in the financial situation to pay more for your services so they find someone else that they can affor

Re: NailTech:: Re:poor little Gelish-just like highschool

2010-04-30 Thread Rhonda Kibuk
Priming is only really needed at the free edge to prevent separation, however, even that isn't necessary. I've done a set with no primer at all (because I forgot) and everything was fine. I think the best way to prevent separation at the free edge is to make sure you brush the SOG off of the nail

Re: NailTech:: SOG French

2010-04-30 Thread Rhonda Kibuk
Lynnette, if it was just the surface of the whites I would give this a try but it's the over all shape and look of the whites. I am going to give the flashing a try. That may solve everything! R On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 9:40 AM, wrote: > Lisa, > I do not remove the tacky completely. I take a

Re: NailTech:: SHELLAC ATTACK - How Different

2010-04-30 Thread Becky
You caught my use of "properly" - lol! On 4/29/10, Michelle Phoenix wrote: > I get ya. Frankly, I'm afraid my clients wouldn't be patient enough to > soak off properly at home and would hurt their nails. They're always > in such a hurry. =) > > Michelle Phoenix - Elite Nail Technician > Wet Paint

Re: NailTech:: Re:poor little Gelish-just like highschool

2010-04-30 Thread Becky
I didn't prime at all! I thought part of the deal was that you don't prime so I didn't. There's no priming or prep on Shellac- that's the part I love. And the only line I've seen that doesn't require it. On 4/30/10, Rhonda Kibuk wrote: > Those of you who are having trouble soaking off...are y

Re: NailTech:: SOG French

2010-04-30 Thread Becky
Yes, but you have to completely encase it or it will wash off where it's not covered with gel. On 4/29/10, Michelle Phoenix wrote: > Can you put SOG over the art pen? > > Michelle Phoenix - Elite Nail Technician > Wet Paint Nail Spa > www.wetpaintnailspa.com > > On Apr 29, 2010, at 11:53 PM, Mani

Re: NailTech:: SOG French

2010-04-30 Thread Becky
I'm going to try this - how long is the "flash" cure? You perfect the smile line and it doesn't run or move by the time it's flashed? Seems like when you break that surface tension it's all overlol On 4/30/10, <> wrote: > I use the eco sog for french. I base, then I apply my white, make the

Re: NailTech:: SOG French

2010-04-30 Thread lynnette59
Lisa, I do not remove the tacky completely. I take a drier brush and go over the nails. It works. No more shrinkage. I cure 1-2-3. Base for 1; color for 2 and top for 3. With the Star light-- I do 90/120/120x2. No issues with any client. Rhonda, if you are buffing, then why not buff IF you are h

Re: NailTech:: SOG French

2010-04-30 Thread Elena Desmonie Star Nail Educ ator Posh Nails of Plainview , NY
To stop any highly pigmented gel from shrinking try wiping off the tacky layer before applying color. Elena Terri Mullins wrote: >me too! On the lamps they need 30 sec and 3 min timers! 30 isn't that big of >a deal, 3 mins is! I LOVE the sog! I do have shrinkage on the dark colors >just

Re: NailTech:: SOG French

2010-04-30 Thread Lisa Cianciotti
I agree, the lamps should have a 3 min timer.  As for the shrinkage, I have been curing the base then using an acrylic brush dampened with some alcohol and quick swipe the nails.  When you apply your first coat of color you will not have the shrinkage.  I think Rhonda posted that.  I tried it an

Re: NailTech:: SOG French

2010-04-30 Thread Rhonda Kibuk
Thank you Elena that helps! On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 9:28 AM, <> wrote: > I apply it by lightly brushing it on from left to center and then right to > center like I would polish, unless the free edge is really minimal, then I > will use a stripper brush. I also use a square gel brush that is not

Re: NailTech:: SOG French

2010-04-30 Thread Rhonda Kibuk
Terri, I've found that if you remove the tacky layer after curing the base coat, then applying the dark color over that it will not shrink and it cures and wears fine. I actually do this with all of the colors. There is no need to buff the shine from the base coat either, however, if you got a f

Re: NailTech:: SOG French

2010-04-30 Thread Elena Desmonie Star Nail Educ ator Posh Nails of Plainview , NY
I apply it by lightly brushing it on from left to center and then right to center like I would polish, unless the free edge is really minimal, then I will use a stripper brush. I also use a square gel brush that is not synthtic hair... As far as the Cina pens go, try removing the tacky layer, a

Re: NailTech:: SOG French

2010-04-30 Thread Terri Mullins
me too! On the lamps they need 30 sec and 3 min timers! 30 isn't that big of a deal, 3 mins is! I LOVE the sog! I do have shrinkage on the dark colors just as you said. I have clients wanting the french but they look like crap. The white doesn't stay??

Re: NailTech:: Re:poor little Gelish-just like highschool

2010-04-30 Thread Patricia Arsenault
Thanks Rhonda, that is a great bit of information to know.  I'm going to try and just do the free edge of the nail. --- On Fri, 4/30/10, Rhonda Kibuk wrote: From: Rhonda Kibuk Subject: Re: NailTech:: Re:poor little Gelish-just like highschool To: nailtech@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, April

Re: NailTech:: SOG French

2010-04-30 Thread Rhonda Kibuk
Elena, Can you explain how you are applying your white? Are you applying it like you would if you polished a french or are you applying it like gel and floating it on. That's my struggle, I can't seem to figure out how to get it on and look right. R On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 8:56 AM, <> wrote:

Re: NailTech:: SOG French

2010-04-30 Thread lynnette59
Yes, Michelle, but it did not work for me. The white peeled off. Buenos dias, Lynnette http://www.facebook.com/nailtech Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Michelle Phoenix Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 00:15:24 To: nailtech@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: NailTech:

Re: NailTech:: SOG French

2010-04-30 Thread Elena Desmonie Star Nail Educ ator Posh Nails of Plainview , NY
Yes you can. Michelle Phoenix wrote: >Can you put SOG over the art pen? > >Michelle Phoenix - Elite Nail Technician >Wet Paint Nail Spa >www.wetpaintnailspa.com > >On Apr 29, 2010, at 11:53 PM, Manicures That Last > wrote: > >> At 10:37 PM 4/29/2010, you wrote: >>> I have the exact same questio

Re: NailTech:: SOG French

2010-04-30 Thread Elena Desmonie Star Nail Educ ator Posh Nails of Plainview , NY
I use the eco sog for french. I base, then I apply my white, make the perfect smile, flash curing each finger, then apply the pink or clear up to the white, cure for 3 min. Then just top coat. It is lasting for 2 to 3 weeks depending on clients nail growth. Elena -- You received this messag

Re: NailTech:: SHELLAC ATTACK - How Different

2010-04-30 Thread Michelle Phoenix
I get ya. Frankly, I'm afraid my clients wouldn't be patient enough to soak off properly at home and would hurt their nails. They're always in such a hurry. =) Michelle Phoenix - Elite Nail Technician Wet Paint Nail Spa www.wetpaintnailspa.com On Apr 29, 2010, at 10:40 PM, Becky wrote: No

Re: NailTech:: SOG French

2010-04-30 Thread Michelle Phoenix
Can you put SOG over the art pen? Michelle Phoenix - Elite Nail Technician Wet Paint Nail Spa www.wetpaintnailspa.com On Apr 29, 2010, at 11:53 PM, Manicures That Last > wrote: At 10:37 PM 4/29/2010, you wrote: I have the exact same questions! Rhonda, did you see use of the Cina nail art pen

Re: {SPAM?} Re: NailTech:: Poor little Gelish-- just like high school

2010-04-30 Thread Lisa Cianciotti
I ordered the $99 deal on April 14th.  I got an email about the deal, but the price was $129.99.  I also said that Elaine offered the deal for $99 and she called Elaine to verify and they gave me the $99 price.     Lisa Cianciotti Simply Polished Studio for Nails Mount Pleasant, PA 724-423-1821 7

Re: NailTech:: Re:poor little Gelish-just like highschool

2010-04-30 Thread Rhonda Kibuk
Those of you who are having trouble soaking off...are you priming the whole nail? If you prime just the free edge, you get a 10 minute soak off. What I do is remove the shine from one hand and prep the cuticles, then apply cotton with acetone and wrap in foil (I make soak off packs up ahead of

Re: NailTech:: Shellac on Action News tonight

2010-04-30 Thread lynnette59
Jennifer, This is very true. My daughter worked for NBC in Philly, South Bend and London and she told me some stories that made me just shake my head. The other thing is that the ones who report the news usually are not the ones who did all the background leg work. Many times it is a PA and even

Re: NailTech:: Shellac on Action News tonight

2010-04-30 Thread Jennifer White
I dunno how much info they inferred of changed slightly for the benefit of the viewers or info they just didn't check. TV news usually gets the side eye from me because they usually get something wrong. Something happened on my mom's street recently and out of 3 local stations only one mana