[neonixie-l] IN 9 / IN 13 bar graph tubes clock

2012-05-21 Thread kay486
Hi there, ive been wondering, how precise can you be when you drive those tubes? Ive been thinking recently that they would make a really nice clock! Having six or seven tubes next to each other. The thing i need to know is if its possible with these tubes to have ten precisely given points.

Re: [neonixie-l] Pressure and kind of gas in nixies

2012-05-21 Thread jb-electronics
Hi, oh, I started reading myself into the topic in November, but I had several difficulties on the way. I am currently writing down my experiences so far, I will create a new section for that on my website, but it will take another two weeks or so. I have not managed to create a glow lampe

Re: [neonixie-l] Pressure and kind of gas in nixies

2012-05-21 Thread kay486
Ah i see, so thats why i havent found anything on your site. The good thing, i guess, is that you already have the neon somewhat sorted out. How much did the neon cost you? On Monday, May 21, 2012 12:38:00 PM UTC+1, Jens Boos wrote: Hi, oh, I started reading myself into the topic in

Re: [neonixie-l] Pressure and kind of gas in nixies

2012-05-21 Thread jb-electronics
Neon is quite expensive; about 50EUR for 12 liters. It is a pressurized bottle at 12bar, so it almost looks like a can of hair spray ;-) The pressure regulator is quite espensive, though, 130EUR. But the good thing is you only need to buy that once. Jens Ah i see, so thats why i havent

Re: [neonixie-l] Pressure and kind of gas in nixies

2012-05-21 Thread kay486
Yea, i know ist expensive so i wanted to know how much you eventually payed for it. On Monday, May 21, 2012 12:56:42 PM UTC+1, Jens Boos wrote: Neon is quite expensive; about 50EUR for 12 liters. It is a pressurized bottle at 12bar, so it almost looks like a can of hair spray ;-) The

[neonixie-l] Re: A small milestone: 500 members!

2012-05-21 Thread Cobra007
Wow, does he deserve a free Nixie Clock or other (smaller) gift? Welcome to the group heavyleaded! Michel On May 21, 11:07 pm, Nick n...@desmith.net wrote: Today (21st May 2012) we welcome our 500th member,  heavyleaded, to the new group! Nick -- You received this message because you

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: A small milestone: 500 members!

2012-05-21 Thread Keith Kirby
Any gifts are always welcome. lol Just glad to be in the group. Keith On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Cobra007 mic...@xiac.com wrote: Wow, does he deserve a free Nixie Clock or other (smaller) gift? Welcome to the group heavyleaded! Michel On May 21, 11:07 pm, Nick n...@desmith.net

Re: [neonixie-l] Pressure and kind of gas in nixies

2012-05-21 Thread Dalibor Farný
About the neon, I am in touch with a salesman from Messer group, he offered me probably the same bottle - Cangas 1l 12 bar bottle, 12 litres of neon, 50 eur + VAT. They offer pressure regulator what can be evacuated for 200eur... and simple one for 100 eur.. Are you sure You will be able to use

[neonixie-l] Re: A small milestone: 500 members!

2012-05-21 Thread kay486
Some reports say that he won a *Blue magic nixie watch* :D On Monday, May 21, 2012 2:12:03 PM UTC+1, Cobra007 wrote: Wow, does he deserve a free Nixie Clock or other (smaller) gift? Welcome to the group heavyleaded! Michel On May 21, 11:07 pm, Nick n...@desmith.net wrote: Today

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: A small milestone: 500 members!

2012-05-21 Thread Keith Kirby
That is a very cool watch! On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 9:36 AM, kay486 luckyl...@gmail.com wrote: Some reports say that he won a *Blue magic nixie watch* :D On Monday, May 21, 2012 2:12:03 PM UTC+1, Cobra007 wrote: Wow, does he deserve a free Nixie Clock or other (smaller) gift? Welcome to

Re: [neonixie-l] Pressure and kind of gas in nixies

2012-05-21 Thread John Rehwinkel
Neon is quite expensive; about 50EUR for 12 liters. It is a pressurized bottle at 12bar, so it almost looks like a can of hair spray ;-) You should be able to do better than that if you don't need that much neon. http://www.montroy.com/catalog/main/itemdetail.app?item_no=NEON It's 0.9 liter

[neonixie-l] Re: A small milestone: 500 members!

2012-05-21 Thread Terry S
Nick -- how does that stack up against our membership from the Yahoo days? Terry On May 21, 8:07 am, Nick n...@desmith.net wrote: Today (21st May 2012) we welcome our 500th member,  heavyleaded, to the new group! Nick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: [neonixie-l] Pressure and kind of gas in nixies

2012-05-21 Thread Dalibor Farný
Nice solution, but I am afraid I would destroy the flask and let the neon go out ;-) If I were from US I would try it, but because I am from EU where we have nothing like this or if we have, it is several times the price in US, I will use a cangas bottle :-( The solution with magnet is very nice!

[neonixie-l] Re: A small milestone: 500 members!

2012-05-21 Thread Nick
The old group had 2209 members going way back (2002 or so). Many (most) were passive/defunct. I had the choice of inviting all the members of the old group back again (we have their email addresses) but it would have been a pain and so we took it as an opportunity to cleanse the list to only

[neonixie-l] Neon Gas

2012-05-21 Thread NeonJohn
On 05/21/2012 07:56 AM, jb-electronics wrote: Neon is quite expensive; about 50EUR for 12 liters. It is a pressurized bottle at 12bar, so it almost looks like a can of hair spray ;-) Wow!!! That's about three times what it costs here. Your description of the container makes me think that

Re: [neonixie-l] Neon Gas

2012-05-21 Thread jb-electronics
Hi, Click on the neon link. I buy in the 400 liter D1 size disposable tank. That's essentially a lifetime supply in my shop. Inert compressed gas can be shipped via the postal service so it might pay you to order it from the US and have it mailed. thanks for the link! But I seriously doubt

[neonixie-l] Removing red coating from nixie tubes

2012-05-21 Thread heavyleaded
Hello Everyone, Wondering if anyone could tell me the best way to remove the red coating on the tubes? I purchased some Tesla ZM1082T's with back printing. I want to make sure to get the red coating off without destroying the back printing. These tubes were hard to track down and I don't want to

Re: [neonixie-l] Removing red coating from nixie tubes

2012-05-21 Thread John Rehwinkel
Wondering if anyone could tell me the best way to remove the red coating on the tubes? The usual way is to soak them in warm-hot water, the coating peels off nicely after a few minutes. I purchased some Tesla ZM1082T's with back printing. I want to make sure to get the red coating off

Re: [neonixie-l] Removing red coating from nixie tubes

2012-05-21 Thread David Forbes
On 5/21/12 11:07 AM, heavyleaded wrote: Hello Everyone, Wondering if anyone could tell me the best way to remove the red coating on the tubes? I purchased some Tesla ZM1082T's with back printing. I want to make sure to get the red coating off without destroying the back printing. These tubes

Re: [neonixie-l] Removing red coating from nixie tubes

2012-05-21 Thread Keith Kirby
Thanks John, I appreciate the advise. Keith On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 2:12 PM, John Rehwinkel jreh...@mac.com wrote: Wondering if anyone could tell me the best way to remove the red coating on the tubes? The usual way is to soak them in warm-hot water, the coating peels off nicely after a

Re: [neonixie-l] Removing red coating from nixie tubes

2012-05-21 Thread Keith Kirby
Sounds good. The Tesla tubes are the reverse of that. So my hope is that the water will only remove the red. I will find out soon enough and post the results. Keith On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 2:15 PM, David Forbes dfor...@dakotacom.net wrote: On 5/21/12 11:07 AM, heavyleaded wrote: Hello

[neonixie-l] Re: Attention!! NEW Nixie tube cheater at Ebay!!!

2012-05-21 Thread kay486
Hi there, i just recieved this email, it looks really suspicious. vitaly.n...@yandex.ua Hi I took your email from the nixies forums. Iam not a cheater you can check my reputation asking about me by Dieter Waechter or Juergen Grau. I have a good stock so I need new customers I am a supplier from

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Attention!! NEW Nixie tube cheater at Ebay!!!

2012-05-21 Thread Instrument Resources of America
My first instinct would be to think not, as it is just too easy to do what he suggests and to check with Dieter and Juergen. I would certainly do that, and then proceed with caution. Order small quantities and or small monetary amounts first. See if he will list on Ebay where you will have

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Attention!! NEW Nixie tube cheater at Ebay!!!

2012-05-21 Thread kay486
Well, im not going to order anything from him. Just the fact that he didnt post here or tubeclockdb.com first is really suspicious. On Monday, May 21, 2012 8:31:01 PM UTC+1, I wrote: My first instinct would be to think not, as it is just too easy to do what he suggests and to check with

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Attention!! NEW Nixie tube cheater at Ebay!!!

2012-05-21 Thread Michail1
Actually, I have dealt with him before as well with great results. I don't like to vouch for anyone, so can't for him, but I did not have an issue. If you were thinking of ordering, then why not ask Dieter or Juergen. If they say good, then you are pretty assured to have no issue. Michail

Re: [neonixie-l] Neon Gas

2012-05-21 Thread NeonJohn
On 05/21/2012 12:38 PM, jb-electronics wrote: thanks for the link! But I seriously doubt anyone is willing to ship a gas container that is above 100 bar pressure - that is really dangerous if shipped normally, and really expensive, if shipped properly, I am afraid. They had no problem

RE: [neonixie-l] Removing red coating from nixie tubes

2012-05-21 Thread Tidak Ada
What is the reason to remove the coating that is just applied to enhance the contrast and visibility of the signs ? As far as I can see the guts stay visible, so that wouldn't be the problem... eric -Original Message- From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com]

Re: [neonixie-l] Neon Gas

2012-05-21 Thread jb-electronics
Hi, They had no problem shipping to me via USPS. And when several of us went in and split a tank of Xenon, I had no problem at all shipping via USPS. I had called ahead to ask. At the counter, the clerk put an Inert Compressed Gas label on the box and took it. No HAZMAT fee like UPS wanted.

Re: [neonixie-l] Removing red coating from nixie tubes

2012-05-21 Thread Keith Kirby
Thank you. That was very helpful. On May 21, 2012 5:50 PM, jb-electronics webmas...@jb-electronics.de wrote: Here are some pictures in case anyone is interested: http://www.jb-electronics.de/html/elektronik/nixies/n_artikel02.htm?lang=en Jens Just personal preference on my part is all. I

RE: [neonixie-l] Removing red coating from nixie tubes

2012-05-21 Thread Tidak Ada
Indeed, I was forgotten there are also tubes with dammaged coatings (jb) eric _ From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Kirby Sent: maandag 21 mei 2012 23:47 To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [neonixie-l] Removing red coating

Re: [neonixie-l] Neon Gas

2012-05-21 Thread Charles MacDonald
On 12-05-21 12:38 PM, jb-electronics wrote: thanks for the link! But I seriously doubt anyone is willing to ship a gas container that is above 100 bar pressure - that is really dangerous if shipped normally, and really expensive, if shipped properly, I am afraid. It all depends on how it is

[neonixie-l] Re: IN 9 / IN 13 bar graph tubes clock

2012-05-21 Thread threeneurons
The length of the glowing portion of these bargraph tubes is fairly proportional to the input current. I personally like the IN-13 better, on two points. (1) Lower full scale current. Only 4mA. The IN-9 is much higher. (2) it has a 3rd electrode, which usually locks the glow to one side. 10