Re: [newbie] [OT] Put on your tinfoil hats...

2004-09-16 Thread John Richard Smith
John Wilson wrote: Oh, and guess which country is home to the most developed, efficent and most secret communications interception and decryting agency on the planet? Why it's Canada. For all that I'm still Canadian and always will be. I just don't trust government much. Any government.

Re: [newbie] [OT] Put on your tinfoil hats...

2004-09-16 Thread Ryan Steffes
On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 12:34:35 -0500, Hoyt Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 15 September 2004 11:06, Eric Scott wrote: On Thu, 2004-09-16 at 14:42, Hoyt Bailey wrote: On Wednesday 15 September 2004 08:08, Stephen Kühn wrote: On Wed, 2004-09-15 at 22:45, Ronald J. Hall

Re: [newbie] [OT] Put on your tinfoil hats...

2004-09-16 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Wed, 2004-09-15 at 12:06, Eric Scott wrote: You have been paying too much attention to CBS the like we still havent given up to the neocomms. I know how you feel, as I had just about the same view a year or so ago. But I've found that if you give it a second chance... and turn a

Re: [newbie] [OT] Put on your tinfoil hats...

2004-09-16 Thread Eric Scott
On Fri, 2004-09-17 at 01:06, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Wed, 2004-09-15 at 12:06, Eric Scott wrote: You have been paying too much attention to CBS the like we still havent given up to the neocomms. I know how you feel, as I had just about the same view a year or so ago. But I've found

Re: [newbie] [OT] Put on your tinfoil hats...

2004-09-15 Thread Stephen Kühn
On Wed, 2004-09-15 at 14:33, aron Smith wrote: On Tuesday 14 September 2004 09:16 pm, JoeHill wrote: On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 21:04:57 -0700 aron Smith disseminated the following: No ...Power is the guiding word I know, I know, I'm just yankin' the ol' neocon chain ;-) guess we'lll

Re: [newbie] [OT] Put on your tinfoil hats...

2004-09-15 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Wednesday 15 September 2004 12:08 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: Charles Edwards' gpg Standard Operating Procedure is looking better and better all the time. If they do manage to usurp the public will on this and institute those measures, which are completely unecessary in my opinion, I wouldn't

Re: [newbie] [OT] Put on your tinfoil hats...

2004-09-15 Thread Scott Mazur
On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 10:42:51 -0400, JoeHill wrote Well, I guess it depends on how you define 'country', at least to me. If you mean the people around you, that you live with and work with, and all the people that share your goals and values, basic to most of us, like 'life, liberty, and

Re: [newbie] [OT] Put on your tinfoil hats...

2004-09-15 Thread JoeHill
On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 09:05:43 -0600 Scott Mazur disseminated the following: Well, I guess it depends on how you define 'country', at least to me. If you mean the people around you, that you live with and work with, and all the people that share your goals and values, basic to most of

Re: [newbie] [OT] Put on your tinfoil hats...

2004-09-15 Thread Lanman
Scott Mazur wrote: On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 10:42:51 -0400, JoeHill wrote Well, I guess it depends on how you define 'country', at least to me. If you mean the people around you, that you live with and work with, and all the people that share your goals and values, basic to most of us, like 'life,

Re: [newbie] [OT] Put on your tinfoil hats...

2004-09-15 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Wednesday 15 September 2004 09:08 am, Stephen Kühn wrote: You are living INSIDE of a closed society that carefully monitors what you see, hear, read and experience - therefore, you cannot perceive what I have seen in the past five years of NOT living INSIDE of that closed society. I don't

Re: [newbie] [OT] Put on your tinfoil hats...

2004-09-15 Thread Travis Crook
On Wed, 2004-09-15 at 15:35, Bryan Phinney wrote: On Wednesday 15 September 2004 09:08 am, Stephen Kühn wrote: snip Since this is already off-topic and to lighten the tone a bit, you should check out: http://www.imao.us/docs/NukeTheMoon.htm ROFLOL!!! snip Granted, I have a pretty black

Re: [newbie] [OT] Put on your tinfoil hats...

2004-09-15 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Wednesday 15 September 2004 06:24 pm, Travis Crook wrote: On Wed, 2004-09-15 at 15:35, Bryan Phinney wrote: On Wednesday 15 September 2004 09:08 am, Stephen Kühn wrote: snip Since this is already off-topic and to lighten the tone a bit, you should check out:

Re: [newbie] [OT] Put on your tinfoil hats...

2004-09-15 Thread John Wilson
On September 15, 2004 07:42 am, JoeHill wrote: On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 09:25:59 -0400 Ronald J. Hall disseminated the following: I love my country but I fear my government Amen to that. I think that's something that most people have in common, to varying degrees, all over the world. Having

Re: [newbie] [OT] Put on your tinfoil hats...

2004-09-15 Thread David T Battler
asap. - Original Message - From: John Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 7:35 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] [OT] Put on your tinfoil hats... On September 15, 2004 07:42 am, JoeHill wrote: On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 09:25:59 -0400 Ronald J. Hall

Re: [newbie] [OT] Put on your tinfoil hats...

2004-09-15 Thread Chris
On Wednesday 15 September 2004 10:42 am, David T Battler wrote: How about the typical American Shite in this email? I thought this was a discussion list regarding Linux. I am a Canadian, and proud of it; and I find this kind of garbage offensive; and this email list to be worse than useless.

Re: [newbie] [OT] Put on your tinfoil hats...

2004-09-15 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Wed, 2004-09-15 at 22:35, John Wilson wrote: On September 15, 2004 07:42 am, JoeHill wrote: On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 09:25:59 -0400 Ronald J. Hall disseminated the following: I love my country but I fear my government Amen to that. I think that's something that most people have in

Re: [newbie] [OT] Put on your tinfoil hats...

2004-09-15 Thread John Wilson
On September 15, 2004 08:42 am, David T Battler wrote: How about the typical American Shite in this email? I thought this was a discussion list regarding Linux. I am a Canadian, and proud of it; and I find this kind of garbage offensive; and this email list to be worse than useless. Some

Re: [newbie] [OT] Put on your tinfoil hats...

2004-09-15 Thread aron Smith
On Wednesday 15 September 2004 07:00 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Wednesday 15 September 2004 06:24 pm, Travis Crook wrote: On Wed, 2004-09-15 at 15:35, Bryan Phinney wrote: On Wednesday 15 September 2004 09:08 am, Stephen Kühn wrote: snip Since this is already off-topic and to

Re: [newbie] [OT] Put on your tinfoil hats...

2004-09-15 Thread JoeHill
On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 19:35:30 -0700 John Wilson disseminated the following: Actually, it's Peace, Order and Good Government which you, of all people should know, Joe. I was a Poli Sci major ;-): Section 7 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms: 7. Everyone has the right to life,

[newbie] [OT] Put on your tinfoil hats...

2004-09-14 Thread JoeHill
On August 9th, 2004, the U.S. Federal Communications Commission (FCC) took a major step toward mandating the creation and implementation of new Internet Protocol standards to make all Internet communications less safe and less secure. What is even worse, the FCC's ruling will force ISP's and

Re: [newbie] [OT] Put on your tinfoil hats...

2004-09-14 Thread aron Smith
On Tuesday 14 September 2004 05:45 pm, JoeHill wrote: On August 9th, 2004, the U.S. Federal Communications Commission (FCC) took a major step toward mandating the creation and implementation of new Internet Protocol standards to make all Internet communications less safe and less secure. What

Re: [newbie] [OT] Put on your tinfoil hats...

2004-09-14 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Wed, 2004-09-15 at 00:04, aron Smith wrote: No ...Power is the guiding word guess we'lll just have to start encrypting our mail Charles Edwards' gpg Standard Operating Procedure is looking better and better all the time. If they do manage to usurp the public will on this and institute

Re: [newbie] [OT] Put on your tinfoil hats...

2004-09-14 Thread JoeHill
On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 21:04:57 -0700 aron Smith disseminated the following: No ...Power is the guiding word I know, I know, I'm just yankin' the ol' neocon chain ;-) guess we'lll just have to start encrypting our mail That's the problem: What this means is that IP protocols may have to be

Re: [newbie] [OT] Put on your tinfoil hats...

2004-09-14 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Wed, 2004-09-15 at 00:16, JoeHill wrote: On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 21:04:57 -0700 aron Smith disseminated the following: No ...Power is the guiding word I know, I know, I'm just yankin' the ol' neocon chain ;-) guess we'lll just have to start encrypting our mail That's the problem:

Re: [newbie] [OT] Put on your tinfoil hats...

2004-09-14 Thread aron Smith
On Tuesday 14 September 2004 09:16 pm, JoeHill wrote: On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 21:04:57 -0700 aron Smith disseminated the following: No ...Power is the guiding word I know, I know, I'm just yankin' the ol' neocon chain ;-) guess we'lll just have to start encrypting our mail That's the

Re: [newbie] [OT] Put on your tinfoil hats...

2004-09-14 Thread Stephen Kühn
On Wed, 2004-09-15 at 10:45, JoeHill wrote: On August 9th, 2004, the U.S. Federal Communications Commission (FCC) took a major step toward mandating the creation and implementation of new Internet Protocol standards to make all Internet communications less safe and less secure. What is even