Re: [newbie] Any 'Wine' expert out there?

2005-01-03 Thread SnapafunFrank
deedee E wrote: On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 09:17:04 +, Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 03 Jan 2005 05:29, deedee E wrote: On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 13:43:43 +, Anne Wilson wrote: Windows systems for security reasons. These days VBS is about the only reason anyone can give for keeping MSWord. OOo Writ

Re: [newbie] Any 'Wine' expert out there?

2005-01-03 Thread deedee E
On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 09:17:04 +, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Monday 03 Jan 2005 05:29, deedee E wrote: > > On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 13:43:43 +, Anne Wilson wrote: > > Windows systems for security reasons. These days VBS is about the > > only reason anyone can give for keeping MSWord. OOo Writer does >

Re: [newbie] Any 'Wine' expert out there?

2005-01-03 Thread Anne Wilson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 03 Jan 2005 00:31, Ronald J. Hall wrote: > On Sunday 02 January 2005 03:43 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > > Only a matter of time, Dark Lord. Mothers-in-law are big on > > practicalities ;-) > > > > Anne > > Hmm. Practicalities...like domesticatin

Re: [newbie] Any 'Wine' expert out there?

2005-01-03 Thread Anne Wilson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 03 Jan 2005 05:29, deedee E wrote: > On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 13:43:43 +, Anne Wilson wrote: > I hope they don't do this -- at least not using VBS. If they can > convert the VBS to something else, that might work. MS groupies > make a big deal

Re: [newbie] Any 'Wine' expert out there?

2005-01-02 Thread Noel McG.
- Original Message - From: "Ronald J. Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 12:31 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Any 'Wine' expert out there? > On Sunday 02 January 2005 03:43 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > > > Only a matter of time,

Re: [newbie] Any 'Wine' expert out there?

2005-01-02 Thread deedee E
On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 13:43:43 +, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Monday 27 Dec 2004 07:22, deedee E wrote: > > > I think you will find that OO Writer is a lot more stable than > > MSWord and has as many features (all of which convert very nicely > > to MSWord, even though MSWord converts in an iffy manne

Re: [newbie] Any 'Wine' expert out there?

2005-01-02 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Sunday 02 January 2005 03:43 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > Only a matter of time, Dark Lord. Mothers-in-law are big on practicalities > ;-) > > Anne Hmm. Practicalities...like domesticating son-in-laws? --

Re: [newbie] Any 'Wine' expert out there?

2005-01-02 Thread John Layt
On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 02:07, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Sunday 02 Jan 2005 18:47, JR wrote: > > I wish my mother in law used linux :) > > Can't you find the one thing that she would *really* love to have, then let > her 'accidentally' see it? A little gentle deceit is not really harmful. > ;-) > For m

Re: [newbie] Any 'Wine' expert out there?

2005-01-02 Thread Anne Wilson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 02 Jan 2005 20:11, Ronald J. Hall wrote: > On Sunday 02 January 2005 01:47 pm, JR wrote: > > I wish my mother in law used linux :) > > I wish *all* mother-in-laws used Linux. Wouldn't that be a force to reckon > with! :-) Only a matter of ti

Re: [newbie] Any 'Wine' expert out there?

2005-01-02 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Sunday 02 January 2005 01:47 pm, JR wrote: > I wish my mother in law used linux :) I wish *all* mother-in-laws used Linux. Wouldn't that be a force to reckon with! :-) --

Re: [newbie] Any 'Wine' expert out there?

2005-01-02 Thread JR
On Sunday 02 January 2005 10:07 am, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Sunday 02 Jan 2005 18:47, JR wrote: > > I wish my mother in law used linux :) > > Can't you find the one thing that she would *really* love to have, then let > her 'accidentally' see it? A little gentle deceit is not really harmful. > ;-)

Re: [newbie] Any 'Wine' expert out there?

2005-01-02 Thread Anne Wilson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 02 Jan 2005 16:11, Carroll Grigsby wrote: > On Sunday 02 January 2005 10:07 am, Anne Wilson wrote: > >>> snip > > > > My husband has his own Mandrake box, but rarely > > adventures beyond the kde patience pack, which knocks the socks off the

Re: [newbie] Any 'Wine' expert out there?

2005-01-02 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Sunday 02 January 2005 10:07 am, Anne Wilson wrote: >>> snip > My husband has his own Mandrake box, but rarely > adventures beyond the kde patience pack, which knocks the socks off the M$ > offerings. There are some pretty good photo-handling packages these days. > It's hard to find something

Re: [newbie] Any 'Wine' expert out there?

2005-01-02 Thread Aron Smith
On Sunday 02 January 2005 07:07 am, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Sunday 02 Jan 2005 18:47, JR wrote: > > I wish my mother in law used linux :) > > Can't you find the one thing that she would *really* love to have, then let > her 'accidentally' see it? A little gentle deceit is not really harmful. > ;-)

Re: [newbie] Any 'Wine' expert out there?

2005-01-02 Thread Anne Wilson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 02 Jan 2005 18:47, JR wrote: > I wish my mother in law used linux :) Can't you find the one thing that she would *really* love to have, then let her 'accidentally' see it? A little gentle deceit is not really harmful. ;-) Just be sure th

Re: [newbie] Any 'Wine' expert out there?

2005-01-02 Thread Anne Wilson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 02 Jan 2005 13:45, Martin Hardie wrote: > On Sunday 2 January 2005 14:43, Anne Wilson wrote: > > When my sin-in-law > > Anne I hope this was a freudian mother in laws slip! :-) > Oops... - well. > Martin > a son in law himself Actually,

Re: [newbie] Any 'Wine' expert out there?

2005-01-02 Thread JR
On Sunday 02 January 2005 08:43 am, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Monday 27 Dec 2004 07:22, deedee E wrote: > > I think you will find that OO Writer is a lot more stable than > > MSWord and has as many features (all of which convert very nicely > > to MSWord, even though MSWord converts in an iffy manner

Re: [newbie] Any 'Wine' expert out there?

2005-01-02 Thread Martin Hardie
On Sunday 2 January 2005 14:43, Anne Wilson wrote: > When my sin-in-law Anne I hope this was a freudian mother in laws slip! :-) Martin a son in law himself -- "the riddle which ma

Re: [newbie] Any 'Wine' expert out there?

2005-01-02 Thread Anne Wilson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 27 Dec 2004 07:22, deedee E wrote: > I think you will find that OO Writer is a lot more stable than > MSWord and has as many features (all of which convert very nicely > to MSWord, even though MSWord converts in an iffy manner to other > thi

Re: [newbie] Any 'Wine' expert out there?

2004-12-31 Thread deedee E
On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 08:04:23 +0100, Martin wrote: > > a first question on Wine - > > do i just install the windows programs i want into a folder in eg my home > directory and then when starting wine in my shell point it there? If you're using the fake Windows installation, just install your appli

Re: [newbie] Any 'Wine' expert out there?

2004-12-28 Thread Al Yaemes
- Original Message - From: "Rodolfo Medina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 11:33 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Any 'Wine' expert out there? > Deedee wrote: > > >I think you will find that OO Writer is a lot more stable th

Re: [newbie] Any 'Wine' expert out there?

2004-12-28 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Deedee wrote: >I think you will find that OO Writer is a lot more stable than >MSWord and has as many features (all of which convert very nicely >to MSWord, even though MSWord converts in an iffy manner to other >things). The only real issue concerns VBS -- OO cannot convert it. >If you need V

Re: [newbie] Any 'Wine' expert out there?

2004-12-27 Thread SnapafunFrank
deedee E wrote: On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 20:31:53 +0100, Rodolfo Medina wrote: However, now I'm quite oriented to avoid Wine installation if possible, i.e. if OO Writer can really work fine onto .doc files, especially now that you pointed out the problem of viruses. And apart from that, I don't much

Re: [newbie] Any 'Wine' expert out there?

2004-12-27 Thread deedee E
On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 20:31:53 +0100, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > However, now I'm quite oriented to avoid Wine installation if possible, > i.e. if OO Writer can really work fine onto .doc files, > especially now that you pointed out the problem of viruses. > And apart from that, I don't much like the id

Re: [newbie] Any 'Wine' expert out there?

2004-12-27 Thread deedee E
On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 18:59:03 -0500, JoeHill wrote: > IIANM, Windows malware (is there any other kind...?), even run > under Wine, would > have very little if no effect on a Linux system. Firstly, it's going to be > looking for files/folders/directories that do not exist (c:Windows, System32, > Doc

Re: [newbie] Any 'Wine' expert out there?

2004-12-27 Thread Anne Wilson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 27 Dec 2004 07:08, deedee E wrote: > On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 22:51:04 +, Anne Wilson wrote: > > Simply having Wine available on your system is not a problem. I use > XWine to run Windows applications and cannot start Wine by clicking > on a l

Re: [newbie] Any 'Wine' expert out there?

2004-12-27 Thread deedee E
On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 22:51:04 +, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Saturday 25 Dec 2004 18:52, deedee E wrote: > > > Wine is fully capable of executing Win32 viruses, Trojans, and > > worms. Don't run Wine as root after it is installed. Then, you > > won't hurt the overall Linux system, although you will

Re: [newbie] Any 'Wine' expert out there?

2004-12-26 Thread Anne Wilson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 26 Dec 2004 16:27, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > > This is easy. Set the group ownership of the directory to wine, and set > the SGID bit on the directory. I usualy do this in Midnight Commander > (mc), and there is a check box for it. Whe

Re: [newbie] Any 'Wine' expert out there?

2004-12-26 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Anne Wilson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 25 Dec 2004 23:59, JoeHill wrote: > On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 22:51:04 + > > Anne Wilson disseminated the following: > >>> Wine is fully capable of executing Win32 viruses, Trojans, and >>> worms. Don't run Wine as root af

Re: [newbie] Any 'Wine' expert out there?

2004-12-26 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Anne Wilson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 25 Dec 2004 23:24, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Anne, It is mainly vulnerable when running windows programs. It should be possible to create something that runs under Linux that would target Wine, I don't see that happe

Re: [newbie] Any 'Wine' expert out there?

2004-12-26 Thread Martin
- > From: "Rodolfo Medina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2004 7:31 PM > Subject: Re: [newbie] Any 'Wine' expert out there? > > > However, now I'm quite oriented to avoid Wine installation if possible, > > i.e. if OO W

Re: [newbie] Any 'Wine' expert out there?

2004-12-26 Thread Anne Wilson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 25 Dec 2004 23:59, JoeHill wrote: > On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 22:51:04 + > > Anne Wilson disseminated the following: > > > Wine is fully capable of executing Win32 viruses, Trojans, and > > > worms. Don't run Wine as root after it is installe

Re: [newbie] Any 'Wine' expert out there?

2004-12-26 Thread Anne Wilson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 25 Dec 2004 23:24, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > Anne, > It is mainly vulnerable when running windows programs. It should be > possible to create something that runs under Linux that would target > Wine, I don't see that happening. The p

Re: [newbie] Any 'Wine' expert out there?

2004-12-25 Thread Noel McG.
- Original Message - From: "Rodolfo Medina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2004 7:31 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Any 'Wine' expert out there? > > However, now I'm quite oriented to avoid Wine installation if possible, > i.e

Re: [newbie] Any 'Wine' expert out there?

2004-12-25 Thread JoeHill
On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 22:51:04 + Anne Wilson disseminated the following: > > Wine is fully capable of executing Win32 viruses, Trojans, and > > worms. Don't run Wine as root after it is installed. Then, you > > won't hurt the overall Linux system, although you will still be > > able to really me

Re: [newbie] Any 'Wine' expert out there?

2004-12-25 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Anne Wilson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 25 Dec 2004 18:52, deedee E wrote: Wine is fully capable of executing Win32 viruses, Trojans, and worms. Don't run Wine as root after it is installed. Then, you won't hurt the overall Linux system, although you will sti

Re: [newbie] Any 'Wine' expert out there?

2004-12-25 Thread Anne Wilson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 25 Dec 2004 18:52, deedee E wrote: > Wine is fully capable of executing Win32 viruses, Trojans, and > worms. Don't run Wine as root after it is installed. Then, you > won't hurt the overall Linux system, although you will still be > able t

Re: [newbie] Any 'Wine' expert out there?

2004-12-25 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Thanks to all who replied: Noel, SnapafunFrank, Mike, Deedee. The matter looks not to be a simple one, so I'll have to do further trials with Wine installation. But, Deedee, after I read you say: >I've had excellent results working with MSWord documents on >Linux systems with OpenOffice.org Write

Re: [newbie] Any 'Wine' expert out there?

2004-12-25 Thread deedee E
A couple of things I forgot, but feel I should mention. Although one installs Wine as root and does some minimal global configuration, each user must do their own configuration. Windows software needs to be installed as user, not as root. If there is more than one user on the system, the installat

Re: [newbie] Any 'Wine' expert out there?

2004-12-24 Thread deedee E
On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 16:49:46 +1300, SnapafunFrank wrote: > Rodolfo Medina wrote: > > >> Does anybody have any experience about Wine, how to install it and how to > >> make it work? I'm not an expert because I've never really had any problems using wine. However, I did notice a couple of things in

Re: [newbie] Any 'Wine' expert out there?

2004-12-24 Thread mike
Rodolfo Medina wrote: > Rodolfo wrote: > > >>Does anybody have any experience about Wine, how to install it and how to >>make it work? >>I've had problems with it, and the help I got from the wine-users mailing >>list didn't manage to solve them. >>I installed Wine in order to run MS Word with it

Re: [newbie] Any 'Wine' expert out there?

2004-12-24 Thread SnapafunFrank
Rodolfo Medina wrote: Rodolfo wrote: Does anybody have any experience about Wine, how to install it and how to make it work? I've had problems with it, and the help I got from the wine-users mailing list didn't manage to solve them. I installed Wine in order to run MS Word with it, since *unfort

Re: [newbie] Any 'Wine' expert out there?

2004-12-24 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Rodolfo wrote: >Does anybody have any experience about Wine, how to install it and how to >make it work? >I've had problems with it, and the help I got from the wine-users mailing >list didn't manage to solve them. >I installed Wine in order to run MS Word with it, >since *unfortunately* in job ap

Re: [newbie] Any 'Wine' expert out there?

2004-12-24 Thread Noel McG.
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "newbie" Sent: Friday, December 24, 2004 10:37 AM Subject: [newbie] Any 'Wine' expert out there? Hi. Does anybody have any experience about Wine, how to install it and how to make it work? I've had p

[newbie] Any 'Wine' expert out there?

2004-12-24 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi. Does anybody have any experience about Wine, how to install it and how to make it work? I've had problems with it, and the help I got from the wine-users mailing list didn't manage to solve them. I installed Wine in order to run MS Word with it, since *unfortunately* in job applications it i