Re: [newbie] I'm getting peeved!

2002-11-14 Thread Dale Huckeby
On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, Todd Franklin wrote: > This might make all of you feel a little better. :-) Steve Ballmer at > a corporate meeting. What a f***ing moron! > > http://www.stenstad.net/storage/ballmer_dance.mpg Pathetic. Dale Huckeby Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSof

Re: Re: [newbie] I'm getting peeved!

2002-11-13 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Thu, 2002-11-14 at 04:35, Jim Dawson wrote: > Personally I'm convinced that the world would be a much happier place if Steve >Balmer were to start drinking decaffinated coffee... > What about Balmer getting a job at either RedHat or Mandrake? (grin) -- Thu Nov 14 09:35:01 EST 2002

Re: [newbie] I'm getting peeved!

2002-11-13 Thread Todd Franklin
I agree completely Stephen Todd Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Tue, 2002-11-12 at 22:48, Todd Franklin wrote: You should look into getting one of those walmart Microtel machines if you want something cheap. What gets me is that alot of the reviewers bash them because they're slow. H

Re: [newbie] I'm getting peeved!

2002-11-13 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Wed, 2002-11-13 at 02:26, Todd Slater wrote: > the sooner they will take notice. > > Exactly. I checked out an offer from Gateway for a $399 computer. I went > into a Gateway support chat session and asked if I could get a Gateway > computer without an operating system. The support person said

Re: [newbie] I'm getting peeved!

2002-11-13 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Tue, 2002-11-12 at 22:48, Todd Franklin wrote: > You should look into getting one of those walmart Microtel machines if > you want something cheap. What gets me is that alot of the reviewers > bash them because they're slow. HELLO!?! Look at the price! Of course > they're not going to ha

Re: [newbie] I'm getting peeved!

2002-11-13 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Wed, 2002-11-13 at 01:37, Alastair Scott wrote: > As someone whose Lexmark printer has just run out of ink (and it's only > about £30 more to get a decent new printer than replace the cartridges) I've > been thinking about this. > > Realistically, the choice for a cheap inkjet running under Lin

Re: [newbie] I'm getting peeved!

2002-11-12 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Tue, 2002-11-12 at 19:30, Todd Franklin wrote: > Here's a number 18,000,000. That's only the machines registered on The > Linux Counter. > http://counter.li.org/ > Here's how we can make a difference. Marketing people don't ignore > numbers that big. And if all of us have all our machines

Re: [newbie] I'm getting peeved!

2002-11-12 Thread Miark
Okay, two quotes to demonstrate this guy's modesty and intelligence: * "GIVE IT UP FOR ME!!" * "Four words for you: I... LOVE... THIS... COMPANY." Unbelievable. Almost. Miark On Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:53:37 + Todd Franklin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This might make all of you feel a little

Re: [newbie] I'm getting peeved!

2002-11-12 Thread Todd Franklin
This might make all of you feel a little better. :-) Steve Ballmer at a corporate meeting. What a f***ing moron! http://www.stenstad.net/storage/ballmer_dance.mpg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com

Re: [newbie] I'm getting peeved!

2002-11-12 Thread Todd Franklin
I agree with your answer there Anne.  I'm glad you told him where to go.  Steve Kuhn is right.  We are swimming upstream.  But, to continue the analogy, why do fish swim upstream in the first place?  To SPAWN.  And spawn we will.  Eventually they won't be able to ignore the linux user.  It will

Re: [newbie] I'm getting peeved!

2002-11-12 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Tuesday November 12 2002 01:30 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Tuesday 12 Nov 2002 7:26 pm, you wrote: > > That's why I think it's important to let businesses know that they > > are losing sales due to their agreement with MS, that's the only > > language they understand: the almighty dollar. > > Pe

Re: [newbie] I'm getting peeved!

2002-11-12 Thread Charlie
On Tuesday 12 November 2002 10:47 am, Carroll Grigsby wrote: > On Tuesday 12 November 2002 11:56 am, Charlie wrote: > snip > > > > To quote Heinlein: "Don't let the bastards grind you down." (I'd use the > > Latin phrase he did, but my Latin sucks. :> ) > > > snip > > Charlie: > IIRC, it

Re: [newbie] I'm getting peeved!

2002-11-12 Thread Anne Wilson
On Tuesday 12 Nov 2002 7:26 pm, you wrote: > > > That's why I think it's important to let businesses know that they are > losing sales due to their agreement with MS, that's the only language > they understand: the almighty dollar. > Perhaps we should also point them at the Linux counter, to see ju

Re: [newbie] I'm getting peeved!

2002-11-12 Thread Todd Slater
t happen. > > > rgd > > Frank > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:newbie-owner@;linux-mandrake.com]On Behalf Of Todd Slater > Sent: Tuesday, 12 November 2002 11:26 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [newbie] I'm gettin

Re: [newbie] I'm getting peeved!

2002-11-12 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Tuesday November 12 2002 11:43 am, Derek Jennings wrote: > To be fair to HP, they have seen the error of their ways, and no > longer make win-printers. What is more they actively fund the > development of opensource drivers for their products. When the ink > runs out in my deskjet, the next pri

Re: [newbie] I'm getting peeved!

2002-11-12 Thread Anne Wilson
On Tuesday 12 Nov 2002 5:43 pm, you wrote: > On Tuesday 12 Nov 2002 4:58 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > > On Tuesday 12 Nov 2002 4:28 pm, you wrote: > > > The problem is when people switch from Windows to Linux (or MacOS, or > > > any other OS) and bring with them all sorts of hardware which has > > > "a

Re: [newbie] I'm getting peeved!

2002-11-12 Thread Derek Jennings
On Tuesday 12 Nov 2002 4:58 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Tuesday 12 Nov 2002 4:28 pm, you wrote: > > The problem is when people switch from Windows to Linux (or MacOS, or any > > other OS) and bring with them all sorts of hardware which has "assumed > > Windows" but hadn't made that assumption clear

Re: [newbie] I'm getting peeved!

2002-11-12 Thread Todd Franklin
You should look into getting one of those walmart Microtel machines if you want something cheap.  What gets me is that alot of the reviewers bash them because they're slow.  HELLO!?!  Look at the price!  Of course they're not going to have the speed and performance of a 2GHz + computer.  But if

Re: [newbie] I'm getting peeved!

2002-11-12 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Tuesday 12 November 2002 11:56 am, Charlie wrote: > snip > > To quote Heinlein: "Don't let the bastards grind you down." (I'd use the > Latin phrase he did, but my Latin sucks. :> ) > snip Charlie: IIRC, it goes, "Illegitimae non carborundum". I doubt that it's real Latin; carborundu

Re: [newbie] I'm getting peeved!

2002-11-12 Thread Anne Wilson
On Tuesday 12 Nov 2002 8:30 am, you wrote: > Here's a number 18,000,000. That's only the machines registered on The > Linux Counter. > http://counter.li.org/ > Here's how we can make a difference. Marketing people don't ignore > numbers that big. And if all of us have all our machines registered

Re: [newbie] I'm getting peeved!

2002-11-12 Thread Anne Wilson
On Tuesday 12 Nov 2002 4:28 pm, you wrote: > > The problem is when people switch from Windows to Linux (or MacOS, or any > other OS) and bring with them all sorts of hardware which has "assumed > Windows" but hadn't made that assumption clear. Then they try to use the > hardware outside Windows an

Re: [newbie] I'm getting peeved!

2002-11-12 Thread Charlie
On Tuesday 12 November 2002 03:45 am, Anne Wilson wrote: > at the predictable response from hardware manufacturers. I don't usually > snap at people like this, but... > > Quote > > OK - I'll buy a Hauppage card that does. > > Anne In interactions between human beings and corporate non-entities it

Re: [newbie] I'm getting peeved!

2002-11-12 Thread Alastair Scott
Todd wrote: > Have to agree on the printer choices. I bought into an article i read > about 3 years ago on the Lexmark 3200 being a great value for a "high > quality" ink jet printer. So they were on sale at best buy and I bought > 2 of them. One for us and one for my roommate's daughter. They

RE: [newbie] I'm getting peeved!

2002-11-12 Thread Franki
ustry could it happen. rgd Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:newbie-owner@;linux-mandrake.com]On Behalf Of Todd Slater Sent: Tuesday, 12 November 2002 11:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] I'm getting peeved! On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 12:45:

Re: [newbie] I'm getting peeved!

2002-11-12 Thread Todd Slater
On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 12:45:44PM +, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Tuesday 12 Nov 2002 11:57 am, you wrote: > > On Tue, 2002-11-12 at 21:45, Anne Wilson wrote: > > > at the predictable response from hardware manufacturers. I don't usually > > > snap at people like this, but... > > > > > > Quote > >

Re: [newbie] I'm getting peeved!

2002-11-12 Thread Todd Franklin
Have to agree on the printer choices.  I bought into an article i read about 3 years ago on the Lexmark 3200 being a great value for a "high quality" ink jet printer.  So they were on sale at best buy and I bought 2 of them.  One for us and one for my roommate's daughter.  They are total pieces

Re: [newbie] I'm getting peeved!

2002-11-12 Thread Alastair Scott
Aaron wrote: > my 2 cents > the pro audio field is a good example of a group of people making > drivers (ALSA) and apps that are beginning to make waves. I ended up > giving my pro audio card away because the manufacturer wouldn't even > help others make drivers. And this is something that only a

Re: [newbie] I'm getting peeved!

2002-11-12 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Tue, 2002-11-12 at 23:45, Anne Wilson wrote: > > In the end, lost sales do count. Mine alone will do nothing, but the more > often we can tell them that we have gone to a competitor who does better and > the sooner they will take notice. > This is true - and has held true for quite a numbe

Re: [newbie] I'm getting peeved!

2002-11-12 Thread Anne Wilson
On Tuesday 12 Nov 2002 11:57 am, you wrote: > On Tue, 2002-11-12 at 21:45, Anne Wilson wrote: > > at the predictable response from hardware manufacturers. I don't usually > > snap at people like this, but... > > > > Quote > > > > OK - I'll buy a Hauppage card that does. > > > > Anne > > Anne, look

Re: [newbie] I'm getting peeved!

2002-11-12 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Tue, 2002-11-12 at 21:45, Anne Wilson wrote: > at the predictable response from hardware manufacturers. I don't usually > snap at people like this, but... > > Quote > > OK - I'll buy a Hauppage card that does. > > Anne Anne, look - for all intents and purposes, you're swimming upstream her

[newbie] I'm getting peeved!

2002-11-12 Thread Anne Wilson
at the predictable response from hardware manufacturers. I don't usually snap at people like this, but... Quote OK - I'll buy a Hauppage card that does. Anne On Tuesday 12 Nov 2002 10:22 am, you wrote: > Hi, > > In regards to your recent email, unfortunately none of our products will > suppor