Re: [newbie] Windblows

2002-10-13 Thread Alastair Scott
On Sat, 12 Oct 2002 16:38:30 -0600 FemmeFatale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: damn Shane... thx for the info... I hate this... So few OSes... and so little time now :| Sigh whatever happened to Diversity in the Marketshare ? Geez. I think it had the same problem as other non-Microsoft

Re: [newbie] Windblows

2002-10-12 Thread shane
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 11 October 2002 8:57 pm, FemmeFatale did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: However, BE for some reason went belly up. I don't know why. :| Needless to say I was heartbroken. I was going to use it next. mostly it bellied up

Re: [newbie] Windblows

2002-10-12 Thread Alastair Scott
On Fri, 11 Oct 2002 21:57:05 -0600 FemmeFatale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, BE for some reason went belly up. I don't know why. :| Needless to say I was heartbroken. I was going to use it next. Out of curiousity, is it still available? Palm bought Be and is sitting on the

Re: [newbie] Windblows

2002-10-12 Thread FemmeFatale
At 07:31 PM 10/11/2002 -0700, you wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 11 October 2002 8:57 pm, FemmeFatale did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: However, BE for some reason went belly up. I don't know why. :| Needless to say I was heartbroken. I was going to

Re: [newbie] Windblows

2002-10-12 Thread shane
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 12 October 2002 3:38 pm, FemmeFatale did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: whatever happened to Diversity in the Marketshare ? Geez. bill gates combined with user apathy. - -- Give me ambiguity or give me something else. shane

Re: [newbie] Windblows

2002-10-12 Thread FemmeFatale
At 03:48 AM 10/12/2002 -0700, you wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 12 October 2002 3:38 pm, FemmeFatale did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: whatever happened to Diversity in the Marketshare ? Geez. bill gates combined with user apathy. - -- Give me

Re: [newbie] Windblows

2002-10-11 Thread shane
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 10 October 2002 1:36 pm, FemmeFatale did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: BeOS is dead, FYI. yeah, i was at the funeral, but it had some good points, and i keep hoping that if we actually reach the point of nearly fair OS

Re: [newbie] Windblows

2002-10-11 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Thursday October 10 2002 01:54 pm, Robin Turner wrote: shane wrote: many a tech feels like the CTO of my wifes company, a fortune 500 company told me he feels: we always knew their security was bad, but 6000 patches later we get hit by bugbear. so what did those patches do? That is

Re: [newbie] Windblows

2002-10-11 Thread Barry Michels
M$ FUD This is the second time I've seen FUD in this group in the last 2 days. What's it stand for? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com

Re: [newbie] Windblows

2002-10-11 Thread JM5379
--- From: Barry Michels [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Windblows M$ FUD This is the second time I've seen FUD in this group in the last 2 days. What's it stand for? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com

Re: [newbie] Windblows

2002-10-11 Thread Damian
El Vie 11 Oct 2002 16:01, Barry Michels escribió: M$ FUD This is the second time I've seen FUD in this group in the last 2 days. What's it stand for? read this page: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Hills/9267/fuddef.html to make it short, FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt) is just an

Re: [newbie] Windblows

2002-10-11 Thread shane
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 11 October 2002 10:09 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: Fear Uncertainty Doubt IBM was the king of it early on, but MS has been the champion for What's it stand for? one of the classic IBM FUDs was

Re: [newbie] Windblows

2002-10-11 Thread Gilligan
Fear Uncentainity and doubt aka Microsoft main gopssip machine. Barry Michels wrote: M$ FUD This is the second time I've seen FUD in this group in the last 2 days. What's it stand for? Want to buy your Pack or

[newbie] Windblows

2002-10-10 Thread John Richard Smith
There's an article in todays edition of the FT inwhich Windblows says :- licence change was a mistake and, Microsoft might allow families with more than one PC to use a single licence It seems likesales of XP have not been all that good then. It would appear that for the first time there

Re: [newbie] Windblows

2002-10-10 Thread shane
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 10 October 2002 12:28 am, John Richard Smith did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: There's an article in todays edition of the FT inwhich Windblows says :- licence change was a mistake and, Microsoft might allow families

RE: [newbie] Windblows

2002-10-10 Thread Franki
desktops. (soon to be a whole company.) and I keep at it wherever possible.. how about you guys. regards Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of shane Sent: Friday, 11 October 2002 12:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie

Re: [newbie] Windblows

2002-10-10 Thread Miark
shane [EMAIL PROTECTED] saith: ...the last asset, money, is startiong to get tied up between courts, payed off poloticians, dropping economy, and great ventures like the xbox... Excellent commentary on M$, Shane. About the _only_ thing you left out was this beautiful dash of salt: the latest

Re: [newbie] Windblows

2002-10-10 Thread shane
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 10 October 2002 10:03 am, Franki did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: I predict that in a couple of years, M$ will release its software for linux.. when they realise they might be able to sell it for all the governments running

Re: [newbie] Windblows

2002-10-10 Thread Miark
Its up to us to stop that from happening... if everyone makes at least one convert, and that person makes one convert, then it will snowball and the record and movie companies will fall into line, after all, there is money to be made for whomever services a popular platform. One nice thing

Re: [newbie] Windblows

2002-10-10 Thread shane
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 10 October 2002 10:08 am, Miark did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: was this beautiful dash of salt: the latest cancer OS by Mandrake has spread to said xbox ;-) damn i was going to say that too! if the keyboard were easier

RE: [newbie] Windblows

2002-10-10 Thread Franki
you chose them, if enough do that, it might become widespread..) rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Miark Sent: Friday, 11 October 2002 1:48 AM To: Newbie at MDK Subject: Re: [newbie] Windblows Its up to us to stop that from

Re: [newbie] Windblows

2002-10-10 Thread Robin Turner
shane wrote: many a tech feels like the CTO of my wifes company, a fortune 500 company told me he feels: we always knew their security was bad, but 6000 patches later we get hit by bugbear. so what did those patches do? That is a fine quote! Sir Robin -- We do not imprison ourselves

Re: [newbie] Windblows

2002-10-10 Thread Alastair Scott
On Thu, 10 Oct 2002 17:08:06 + Miark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: shane [EMAIL PROTECTED] saith: ...the last asset, money, is startiong to get tied up between courts, payed off poloticians, dropping economy, and great ventures like the xbox... Excellent commentary on M$, Shane. About

Re: [newbie] Windblows

2002-10-10 Thread FemmeFatale
At 10:37 AM 10/10/2002 -0700, you wrote: snip oh it will still be years before the desktop is even 10% linux, but i rather suspect that 5-7 years from now when macs, linux, bsd, and heck maybe even beos all have 10-20% or so each and interoperability is the rule not the exception, microsoft will

Re: [newbie] Windblows

2002-10-10 Thread Todd Flinders
If the military makes changes to OOo and the binaries of those changes stay in-house, then they are not violating the GPL if the code stays in-house as well. The violation would only occur if they distributed the binaries, which in your scenario of a raised security classification wouldn't

RE: [newbie] Windblows

2002-10-10 Thread Ralph M. Los
+ -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ -Original Message- From: Todd Flinders [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 9:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Windblows If the military makes changes to OOo and the binaries of those changes stay in-house

Re: [newbie] Windblows

2002-10-10 Thread Todd Flinders
+ -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ -Original Message- From: Todd Flinders [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 9:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Windblows If the military makes changes to OOo and the binaries of those