Re: [newbie] HP Surestore 5000

2002-07-06 Thread dfox
ok...now you've really got my curiosity peeked. once you get the files on the tape, how in the world does one browse, find, and then get the Well, tar will do it for you: tar xvf /dev/st0 filespec filespec can be a wildcard selection, or a directory name, just like extracting files from a

Re: [newbie] HP Surestore 5000

2002-07-05 Thread Norman
dfox wrote: I assume /dev/nst0 is used if you just want to append extra Well, it's used in conjunction with 'mt' to position the tape to the proper point. One can have index marks (they work like the ones on VCRs) so if I am at beginning of tape and want to fast forward to right after

Re: [newbie] HP Surestore 5000

2002-07-05 Thread dfox
The one I got is mt-st-0.6-3mdk.i586.rpm which seems to be the most recent stable version Should work fine. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com

Re: [newbie] HP Surestore 5000

2002-07-04 Thread Manuel Soto
Try flexbackup MS On Wed, 2002-07-03 at 00:02, dfox wrote: My problem is that I have no idea how to use the tape drive. Could someone give me some pointers please. I think there's a Tape howto over in the howto docs, but once you have the tape working, it's pretty easy to use - you

Re: [newbie] HP Surestore 5000

2002-07-04 Thread Norman
Well guys I understand a lot more about tape drives now than I did 3 days ago. A pity more of the people who think MS means computing don't see how much more there is to it than re-installing screwed up DLL's, VXD's etc. I feel sure the great slew of ideas from just this one thread would open

Re: [newbie] HP Surestore 5000

2002-07-03 Thread Manuel Soto
Try flexbackup MS On Wed, 2002-07-03 at 00:02, dfox wrote: My problem is that I have no idea how to use the tape drive. Could someone give me some pointers please. I think there's a Tape howto over in the howto docs, but once you have the tape working, it's pretty easy to use - you

Re: [newbie] HP Surestore 5000

2002-07-03 Thread dfox
Try flexbackup MS Try trimming your posts Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com

Re: [newbie] HP Surestore 5000

2002-07-03 Thread Norman
dfox wrote: I think there's a Tape howto over in the howto docs, but once you have the tape working, it's pretty easy to use - you just use the /dev/st0 (it is scsi, right?) or /dev/nst0 devises - the second is the no-rewind device. Is it worth playing with? Do yuo like to make

Re: [newbie] HP Surestore 5000

2002-07-03 Thread daRcmaTTeR
On Wed, 3 Jul 2002, Norman wrote: tar cvf /dev/st0 /home/norman did a backup of my home directory. I thought I would need some software to rewind the tape not realising that this would happen automatically after the above command completed. I assume /dev/nst0 is used if you just

RE: [newbie] HP Surestore 5000

2002-07-03 Thread Tibbetts, Ric
On Wed, 3 Jul 2002, Norman wrote: tar cvf /dev/st0 /home/norman did a backup of my home directory. I thought I would need some software to rewind the tape not realising that this would happen automatically after the above command completed. I assume /dev/nst0 is used if you just

RE: [newbie] HP Surestore 5000

2002-07-03 Thread Tibbetts, Ric
On Wed, 3 Jul 2002, Tibbetts, Ric wrote: ok...now you've really got my curiosity peeked. once you get the files on the tape, how in the world does one browse, find, and then get the file(s) off the tape? I've never done this before, but am truely facinated by this. Simple. If you

Re: [newbie] HP Surestore 5000

2002-07-03 Thread et
On Wednesday 03 July 2002 01:43 pm, you wrote: On Wed, 3 Jul 2002, Tibbetts, Ric wrote: ok...now you've really got my curiosity peeked. once you get the files on the tape, how in the world does one browse, find, and then get the file(s) off the tape? I've never done this before, but am

RE: [newbie] HP Surestore 5000

2002-07-03 Thread daRcmaTTeR
On Wed, 3 Jul 2002, Tibbetts, Ric wrote: On Wed, 3 Jul 2002, Tibbetts, Ric wrote: ok...now you've really got my curiosity peeked. once you get the files on the tape, how in the world does one browse, find, and then get the file(s) off the tape? I've never done this before, but am

RE: [newbie] HP Surestore 5000

2002-07-03 Thread Tibbetts, Ric
that you have a puncuation problem? try tar -xvf /dev/st0/home/mdw1982/.mc/ini home/mdw1982/.mc/ini heck I Know squat about tar... I bet I am way wrong I don't think that will work. If you did that, tar would be looking for a file: /dev/st0/home/ And that wouldn't exist. He

RE: [newbie] HP Surestore 5000

2002-07-03 Thread Tibbetts, Ric
Thanks...that did the trick. Now all I've got to do is figure out just how to erase the tape before backing up to it. Or, does that happen automagically when tar begins to write to the device? No worries! Tar will blindly write over anything that's already on the tape. So you don't need to

Re: [newbie] HP Surestore 5000

2002-07-03 Thread daRcmaTTeR
On Wed, 3 Jul 2002, et wrote: Ric, thank you SO much for that awesome information. I can now see what is on the tape now by writing the contents to a file. however when I attempt to extract a specific file from the tape is tells me that the listed file is not found in the archive.

Re: [newbie] HP Surestore 5000

2002-07-03 Thread dfox
And that wouldn't exist. He just needed to drop the leading / off the filespec. Fundamentally, one would not try to tar to /dev/st0/home/whatever. The tape doesn't have a filesystem. to the OP - just use /dev/st0. You aren't going to be able to access the tape as a disk, so don't try to do so:

Re: [newbie] HP Surestore 5000

2002-07-03 Thread dfox
If you start running tight on space on that tape, remember to add the z flag when you create, and read the tape. Then it will compress the data. Depending on what the data is, it can recover a lot of space. I'm not a big fan of using compression on the tapes, and I really haven't tried it.

Re: [newbie] HP Surestore 5000

2002-07-03 Thread dfox
Thanks...that did the trick. Now all I've got to do is figure out just how to erase the tape before backing up to it. Or, does that happen automagically when tar begins to write to the device? You don't have to. It's done by the tape hardware itself, just like a regular audio/video tape.

Re: [newbie] HP Surestore 5000

2002-07-03 Thread dfox
try tar -xvf /dev/st0/home/mdw1982/.mc/ini home/mdw1982/.mc/ini heck I Know squat about tar... I bet I am way wrong That won't work, sorry. Tapes don't have filesystems, and if you just want to back up starting from /home/mdw* just do: tar -cvf /dev/st0 /home/md* If you look at the output

Re: [newbie] HP Surestore 5000

2002-07-03 Thread dfox
Try dropping the leading slash from the filespec: tar -xvf /dev/st0 home/mdwwhatever/somefile Just watch where you're sitting when you do that. I think if you check the listing you made with 'tar -tvf', you'll notice the leading slash is not Ric - good advise. Just remember the

Re: [newbie] HP Surestore 5000

2002-07-03 Thread dfox
To get those off: tar -zxvf /dev/st0 filespec The z in tar will compress/uncompress them on the fly. There are far better utilities for doing backups than tar. But in a pinch, it works. Let's That's one aspect where the commercial backup systems should fare better than plain 'tar' --

Re: [newbie] HP Surestore 5000

2002-07-02 Thread dfox
My problem is that I have no idea how to use the tape drive. Could someone give me some pointers please. I think there's a Tape howto over in the howto docs, but once you have the tape working, it's pretty easy to use - you just use the /dev/st0 (it is scsi, right?) or /dev/nst0 devises -