RE: [newbie] just a comment

2002-12-13 Thread Richard Urwin
There is nothing unique about this community. Just about any special interest group acts the same way. If I join an owners club for my car, install some customisation and take it to rallys, I would find exactly the same sort of community. But if I break down one day and expect someone to help me

RE: [riu] Re: [newbie] just a comment [WAY OT now]

2002-12-13 Thread Richard Urwin
A somewhat topical quote of a misquote: Do not meddle in the affairs of primates; for they are subtle and quick to anger. -- Richard Urwin, Private Confirmed as a crazy system administrator (NAG p348) This email has

Re: [newbie] just a comment [WAY OT now]

2002-12-13 Thread Meliton
On Fri, 2002-12-13 at 19:13, Vasiliy Boulytchev wrote: how bored are we... im loving this though, keep going. Since you insist... :) Isn't it funny the amount of attention OT gets? I don't know about others, but I know why I reply to this. I'm such a total ignoramus of all things

Re: [newbie] just a comment [WAY OT now]

2002-12-13 Thread Robin Turner
Meliton wrote: Someone asked what makes this sort of list tick, and even I can have an opinion on such matters. This being also the first mailing list I've ever been on, and from not very long at that, I had no previous experience of what they meant by flame. Holy shit. As flames go, the stuff

Re: [newbie] just a comment [WAY OT now]

2002-12-13 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Sat, 2002-12-14 at 07:40, Robin Turner wrote: As flames go, the stuff you see on this list is nothing - this is actually a pretty friendly and polite list, which is one reason I'm still subscribed to it. Real classic flaming is stuff like BWAHAHAHAHAHAH U sux donkey balls U

Re: [newbie] just a comment [WAY OT now]

2002-12-13 Thread FemmeFatale
At 10:06 PM 12/13/2002 +0100, you wrote: On Fri, 2002-12-13 at 19:13, Vasiliy Boulytchev wrote: how bored are we... im loving this though, keep going. Since you insist... :) Someone asked what makes this sort of list tick, and even I can have an opinion on such matters. This being

Re: [newbie] just a comment [WAY OT now]

2002-12-13 Thread German
On Sat, 2002-12-14 at 00:39, FemmeFatale wrote: Meliton, jsut ignore the ppl who flame ya. They're just ppl who have their sphincters in a knot. Hell with em. Its a list, yes. Its public yes. But sometimes we need threads like this just to lighten up a little for a while. And who

Re: [newbie] just a comment [WAY OT now]

2002-12-13 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Friday 13 December 2002 03:40 pm, Robin Turner wrote: As flames go, the stuff you see on this list is nothing - this is actually a pretty friendly and polite list, which is one reason I'm still subscribed to it. Real classic flaming is stuff like BWAHAHAHAHAHAH U sux donkey balls

Re: [newbie] just a comment [WAY OT now]

2002-12-13 Thread Robin Turner
Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Friday 13 December 2002 03:40 pm, Robin Turner wrote: As flames go, the stuff you see on this list is nothing - this is actually a pretty friendly and polite list, which is one reason I'm still subscribed to it. Real classic flaming is stuff like BWAHAHAHAHAHAH U

Re: [newbie] just a comment

2002-12-12 Thread Meliton
On Wed, 2002-12-11 at 22:58, Dennis Myers wrote: On Wednesday 11 December 2002 09:38 pm, Ray Henry wrote: I think it's grate that every on can help other Linux user. Unlike Windows users Linux users stick to grate I have a theory on that... :) My great theory is that there are so

RE: [newbie] just a comment

2002-12-12 Thread Tony S. Sykes
PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 8:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] just a comment On Wed, 2002-12-11 at 22:58, Dennis Myers wrote: On Wednesday 11 December 2002 09:38 pm, Ray Henry wrote: I think it's grate that every on can help other Linux user. Unlike Windows

Re: [newbie] just a comment

2002-12-12 Thread Charlie
On December 12, 2002 01:02 am, Meliton wrote: snip Open minds, perhaps. But in my opinion the driving force behind the amazing support one gets on Linux is fundamentally egoistic: it feels good to help someone out, specially when they ask nicely. It also implies a touch of vanity, not as in

Re: [newbie] just a comment

2002-12-12 Thread Meliton
On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 20:31, Charlie wrote: On December 12, 2002 01:02 am, Meliton wrote: snip Open minds, perhaps. But in my opinion the driving force behind the amazing support one gets on Linux is fundamentally egoistic: it feels good to help someone out, specially when they ask

Re: [newbie] just a comment

2002-12-12 Thread Robin Turner
Meliton wrote: On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 20:31, Charlie wrote: [snip] Or is egoism as an answer appearing as to flip, to simplistic to fit the record? Egoism is just a word, I use it a lot because it shocks some people into not lying to themselves. Too few people. And I do believe that we all

RE: [newbie] just a comment

2002-12-12 Thread Franki
: Re: [newbie] just a comment Meliton wrote: On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 20:31, Charlie wrote: [snip] Or is egoism as an answer appearing as to flip, to simplistic to fit the record? Egoism is just a word, I use it a lot because it shocks some people into not lying to themselves. Too few people

Re: [newbie] just a comment

2002-12-12 Thread Vasiliy Boulytchev
I used to use linux back in the day to piss everyone off that wanted to use my pc. now its just a ing job... On Thursday 12 December 2002 01:12 pm, Meliton wrote: On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 20:31, Charlie wrote: On December 12, 2002 01:02 am, Meliton wrote: snip Open minds,

Re: [newbie] just a comment

2002-12-12 Thread Keith
Ego??? Some times in some ways for SOME people, MAYBE. I've learned that being a teacher (good teacher) one learns far more the the student Joy comes in serving others. Helping others is a commandment for some of us (Biblical speaking). I may be new at Linux, but have spent much of my life

Re: [newbie] just a comment

2002-12-12 Thread Todd Slater
On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 09:12:15PM +0100, Meliton wrote: Egoism is just a word, I use it a lot because it shocks some people into not lying to themselves. Too few people. And I do believe that we all act strictly according to our interests, though not as rational beings (which we are NOT).

Re: [newbie] just a comment

2002-12-12 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Fri, 2002-12-13 at 08:33, Todd Slater wrote: This is your opinion and that is fine, but please don't insult others by suggesting that they are living a lie and that you are a saviour that can reveal the truth to them. Imagine two soldiers who are ordered to carry out cruel and vicious

Re: [newbie] just a comment

2002-12-12 Thread Meliton
On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 20:51, Robin Turner wrote: How can you irrationally act in your own interests? Well, I smoke, for example. That is certainly NOT in my material interests. It is totally irrational. But in a totally irrational way, the cancer is better than the stress of quitting. Notice

Re: [newbie] just a comment

2002-12-12 Thread ET
But absolutely every act of every human being in History, including all the moving ones of self-sacrifice, are for the actor's benefit. I'm not being cynical here. this is THE MOST cynical statement possible. you are _clearly_ in denial. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?

Re: [newbie] just a comment

2002-12-12 Thread ET
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robin Turner Sent: Friday, 13 December 2002 3:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] just a comment Meliton wrote: On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 20:31, Charlie wrote: [snip] Or is egoism as an answer appearing as to flip, to simplistic to fit

[OT] Re: [newbie] just a comment

2002-12-12 Thread Robin Turner
Franki wrote: pardon me, but what has this to do about linux?? Well, to the extent that it's relevant to the Open Source community, it's relevant to Linux, and to the extent that it's relevant to people's motivations for posting to lists, it's relevant to any list. But essentially you are

Re: [newbie] just a comment [WAY OT now]

2002-12-12 Thread Charlie
On December 12, 2002 01:12 pm, Meliton wrote: snipped at random Should this be taken off list? Probably matters not since I'm done with this reply. Sorry for wasting the bandwidth. Does this fit your mold of egoism and it's resultant behaviors? Yes it does. Are you sure? reference:

Re: [newbie] just a comment

2002-12-12 Thread Robin Turner
Meliton wrote: I have a debt of gratitude to these folks. But they do it because they want to, they are Mother Theresas to me, but then she went to the lepers 'cos SHE wanted to, also. Money is not the only thing that moves people, but altruism is at least as ambiguous as my use of egoism. I

Re: [OT] Re: [newbie] just a comment

2002-12-12 Thread Robin Turner
FemmeFatale wrote: [snip] Sir Robin (who, incidentally, took on that title as a way of taking the piss out of people who had questioned his motivation for defending a damsel in distress on this list) I have to snicker luv, cause I must admit you taking that title was quite the surprise at

Re: [newbie] just a comment

2002-12-11 Thread Ray Henry
On Wed, 2002-12-11 at 15:58, Dennis Myers wrote: On Wednesday 11 December 2002 09:38 pm, Ray Henry wrote: I think it's grate that every on can help other Linux user. Unlike Windows users Linux users stick to grate I have a theory on that... :) My great theory is that there are so

Re: [newbie] just a comment

2002-12-11 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 08:58, Dennis Myers wrote: That may be part of it, but I believe that the people who venture in to linux have open minds and a belief that the world is bad enough as it is so maybe we can make it better with the OSS. Turn no one away, help all that we can. This is a