RE: Insecure Library Loading Vulnerability

2010-08-26 Thread Ken Schaefer
According to these guys, they've found 121 vulnerabilities in 41 Microsoft products. And over 512 issues altogether... http://acrossecurity.blogspot.com/ Cheers Ken From: HELP_PC [mailto:g...@enter.it] Sent: Thursday, 26 August 2010 1:15 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: R: Insecure

RE: Insecure Library Loading Vulnerability

2010-08-26 Thread Carl Houseman
I don't see where MS advised that many things may not work after implementing the 2264107 patch. I just re-read the security advisory and there is no impact of workaround mentioned for the patch. In short, MS has fairly much implied that the patch is without severe consequences. You should

R: Insecure Library Loading Vulnerability

2010-08-26 Thread HELP_PC
Can you explain to me how to apply it ? Launch the MS file locally and revisit the registry ? Is it doable through GPO? TIA GuidoElia HELPPC _ Da: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] Inviato: giovedì 26 agosto 2010 8.21 A: NT System Admin Issues Oggetto: RE: Insecure

Re: Insecure Library Loading Vulnerability

2010-08-26 Thread Andrew S. Baker
It is definitely going to take some time before vendors implement the following: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2389418 The number is definitely going to get well into the hundreds of apps. Interestingly enough, I'll bet that fixing this one issue is going to lead to all sorts of improved

Re: Insecure Library Loading Vulnerability

2010-08-26 Thread Andrew S. Baker
***Can you explain to me how to apply it ? Launch the MS file locally and revisit the registry ? Is it doable through GPO?* Um... The instructions for installation are right here: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2264107 What about them do you not understand? Software installation can be handled

Windows 7 Folder Redirection Issue

2010-08-26 Thread Wilhelm, Scott
We currently use a GPO to redirect users my documents to their home folder share. Since switching to Windows 7, whenever a user logs in their folder name on the server appears to change to Documents. If I UNC out to their folder (ie. //server/share/username) I can access it no problem,

Re: Windows 7 Folder Redirection Issue

2010-08-26 Thread James Rankin
Delete the desktop.ini file in the folder. On 26 August 2010 12:13, Wilhelm, Scott swilh...@mcs.k12.ny.us wrote: We currently use a GPO to redirect users my documents to their home folder share. Since switching to Windows 7, whenever a user logs in their folder name on the server appears to

RE: Insecure Library Loading Vulnerability

2010-08-26 Thread Ziots, Edward
No you understood just fine. Things could break afterwards. Z Edward E. Ziots CISSP, Network +, Security + Network Engineer Lifespan Organization Email:ezi...@lifespan.org Cell:401-639-3505 From: HELP_PC [mailto:g...@enter.it] Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 1:29 AM To: NT

RE: Windows 95.

2010-08-26 Thread Jim Holmgren
Zzz...huh...what's dead? Who said that?...where am I?...who are you people?oh...nevermind. Zz JIM Jim Holmgren Manager of Server Engineering XLHealth Corporation The Warehouse at Camden Yards 351 West Camden Street, Suite 100 Baltimore, MD 21201 410.625.2200 (main)

Re: Windows 95.

2010-08-26 Thread RichardMcClary
You make a grown man cry! Terry Dickson te...@treasurer.state.ks.us wrote on 08/25/2010 03:55:34 PM: Hey for all of you who missed this like me, Happy Belated Birthday to Windows 95. It turned 15 yesterday. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~

RE: Windows 95.

2010-08-26 Thread Maglinger, Paul
Nope. I still have one machine that's running it only because I have just one application that refuses to run on anything else. *sigh*. From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 4:05 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows 95. I

RE: Windows 95.

2010-08-26 Thread Maglinger, Paul
You don't happen to work around the Chicago area do you? I just heard a similar story from my brother-in-law. -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 9:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows 95. On Wed, Aug 25,

RE: Javacode Help again

2010-08-26 Thread Maglinger, Paul
-sa-bi? From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 9:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Javacode Help again wa? -- ME2 On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 12:02 PM, techconnect techconn...@bellsouth.net wrote: Thank you Andrew for

New Attacks on Adobe Shockwave APSB10-020 has been released.

2010-08-26 Thread Ziots, Edward
Repost from BugTraq, ( There is multiple vulnerabilities in adobe that are fixed with the APSB10-020 not just this one. Also it seems they have found a .DLL hijack in Adobe Illustrator CS4 and Firefox 3.6.8 from some reports accordingly too., ZDI-10-164: Adobe Shockwave Player Director File

RE: Windows 95.

2010-08-26 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Egads. For all the kludge it was under the covers... it is what introduced the Win32 API to the masses, and ultimately paved the way for XP which unified the Windows families on the NT kernel codebase... I wonder if I still have my copy of Andrew Schulman's Windows 95 Undocumented

RE: Windows 95.

2010-08-26 Thread Andy Shook
I wonder if anybody cares Shook From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 9:01 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 95. Egads. For all the kludge it was under the covers... it is what introduced the Win32 API to the masses, and

Re: New Attacks on Adobe Shockwave APSB10-020 has been released.

2010-08-26 Thread RichardMcClary
When one goes to update Shockwave, the installer also tries to install some Symantec product via Piggyback. Some may consider this also to be an exploit - $#* piggy-backers! -- richard Ziots, Edward ezi...@lifespan.org wrote on 08/26/2010 07:54:27 AM: Repost from BugTraq, ( There is multiple

RE: Windows 95.

2010-08-26 Thread RichardMcClary
You make a grown man cry! Andy Shook andy.sh...@peak10.com wrote on 08/26/2010 08:02:33 AM: I wonder if anybody cares?. Shook From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 9:01 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 95. Egads.

RE: Insecure Library Loading Vulnerability

2010-08-26 Thread Steven M. Caesare
For all of the bashing MS gets, I think it's good to see that internally the security teams take the vuln notifications seriously and were diligent in cooperating... -sc From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 2:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues

RE: Insecure Library Loading Vulnerability

2010-08-26 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Seriously? -sc From: HELP_PC [mailto:g...@enter.it] Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 2:42 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: R: Insecure Library Loading Vulnerability Can you explain to me how to apply it ? Launch the MS file locally and revisit the registry ? Is it doable through

RE: Windows 7 Folder Redirection Issue

2010-08-26 Thread Wilhelm, Scott
Ok, that worked. Now, how can I prevent that file from being created on the server? Thanks! Scott --- Scott Wilhelm Computer Technician Massena Central School District St. Lawrence-Lewis BOCES (315) 764-3700 ext. 3046 The harder I work, the luckier I get. Samuel Goldwyn From: James Rankin

RE: Windows 95.

2010-08-26 Thread Steven M. Caesare
When that song was dissected during the product launch, there was some d...@mn funny commentary... You, you make a dead man come as well... -sc From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 8:15 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject:

RE: Windows 95.

2010-08-26 Thread Don Guyer
I FINALLY let go and just threw out the Win 95 floppies that I had kept. J Don Guyer Systems Engineer - Information Services Prudential, Fox Roach/Trident Group 431 W. Lancaster Avenue Devon, PA 19333 Direct: (610) 993-3299 Fax: (610) 650-5306 don.gu...@prufoxroach.com

Re: Windows 95.

2010-08-26 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 8:42 AM, Maglinger, Paul pmaglin...@scvl.com wrote: Until a few months ago, we had a measurement system in production that was still running Win 3.x. ... Then a few months ago the interface board died. You don't happen to work around the Chicago area do you?  I just

RE: Javacode Help again

2010-08-26 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Or... zz-up?!? -sc From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 8:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Javacode Help again -sa-bi? From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 9:21

RE: Windows 7 Folder Redirection Issue

2010-08-26 Thread Webster
That issue has been around since Vista. http://minasi.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=28984 Webster From: Wilhelm, Scott [mailto:swilh...@mcs.k12.ny.us] Subject: Windows 7 Folder Redirection Issue We currently use a GPO to redirect users my documents to their home folder share.

RE: Windows 95.

2010-08-26 Thread Webster
That leaves Shooky Baby out of this then. J Webster From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] Subject: Re: Windows 95. You make a grown man cry! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~

RE: Windows 95.

2010-08-26 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Don't hate just because technical talk scares you. -sc From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 9:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 95. I wonder if anybody cares Shook From: Steven M. Caesare

RE: Windows 95.

2010-08-26 Thread Steven M. Caesare
It's because Shooky doesn't reciprocate. -sc From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 9:04 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 95. You make a grown man cry! Andy Shook andy.sh...@peak10.com wrote on 08/26/2010

RE: Windows 95.

2010-08-26 Thread Andy Shook
Hey! I can talk mega-rams and 1.21 gigawatts as good as anyone. You're mean. Shook From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 9:24 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 95. Don't hate just because technical talk scares you. -sc From:

Cannot load exchanger medium (Mutex already locked.)

2010-08-26 Thread Okan Bostan
Hi list, We use HP MSL6060 Tape Library for backup solution. Some backup sessions sometimes gives the error Cannot load exchanger medium (Mutex already locked.) We could manually start the session and no error occurs. Any suggestions? Thanks. Okan Bostan ~ Finally, powerful endpoint

RE: Windows 95.

2010-08-26 Thread Steven M. Caesare
And you're average. -sc From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 9:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 95. Hey! I can talk mega-rams and 1.21 gigawatts as good as anyone. You're mean. Shook From: Steven M.

RE: Windows 95.

2010-08-26 Thread Jim Holmgren
But do you have the wi-fi's ? From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 9:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 95. Hey! I can talk mega-rams and 1.21 gigawatts as good as anyone. You're mean. Shook From: Steven M.

Re: Windows 95.

2010-08-26 Thread Richard Stovall
The wi-fi's what? On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 9:29 AM, Jim Holmgren jholmg...@xlhealth.comwrote: But do you have the wi-fi’s ? *From:* Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] *Sent:* Thursday, August 26, 2010 9:29 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Windows 95. Hey! I

RE: Windows 95.

2010-08-26 Thread Jim Holmgren
Just the wi-fi's - it is what makes the iPhone4 the best phone. From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 9:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows 95. The wi-fi's what? On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 9:29 AM, Jim Holmgren

RE: Windows 95.

2010-08-26 Thread John Cook
I don't care From: Jim Holmgren [mailto:jholmg...@xlhealth.com] Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 9:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 95. Just the wi-fi's - it is what makes the iPhone4 the best phone. From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August

Re: Windows 7 Folder Redirection Issue

2010-08-26 Thread James Rankin
The workaround for setting a Deny perm for Administrators on the desktop.ini files seems a good idea. You'd probably have to enforce it with a GPO. On 26 August 2010 14:21, Webster carlwebs...@gmail.com wrote: That issue has been around since Vista.

Minimum password length GPO

2010-08-26 Thread David Mazzaccaro
Hi all, If a default domain policy GPO states min password length is 7 and I change it to min password length 8... what will happen to those users who are currently using 7 characters? Win 2003 Domain. Thanks! . ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~

Re: Insecure Library Loading Vulnerability

2010-08-26 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 1:18 AM, Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.com wrote: And those are likely just the beginning. I'd expect the number to get to 100's of apps. I expect it to be in the thousands, if not tens or hundreds of thousands. Keep in mind that most executables probably won't be

RE: Windows 95.

2010-08-26 Thread Jim Holmgren
My cat is now homeless. From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 9:44 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 95. I don't care From: Jim Holmgren [mailto:jholmg...@xlhealth.com] Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 9:39 AM To: NT System Admin

Re: Minimum password length GPO

2010-08-26 Thread James Rankin
AFAIK, it will enforce the new policy next time they opt, or are forced to, change their password. On 26 August 2010 14:42, David Mazzaccaro david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.comwrote: Hi all, If a default domain policy GPO states min password length is 7 and I change it to min password length 8…

Re: Minimum password length GPO

2010-08-26 Thread Ron . Wulff
Nothing until their password expires Ron J Wulff · The Bank of New York Mellon ·412-236-0494 · Mobile 412-770-6099 · ron.wu...@bnymellon.com From: David Mazzaccaro david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: 08/26/2010 09:44 AM

Re: Insecure Library Loading Vulnerability

2010-08-26 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 9:08 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: For all of the bashing MS gets, I think it’s good to see that internally the security teams take the vuln notifications seriously and were diligent in cooperating… Seriously? As I mentioned earlier, Microsoft's

RE: Minimum password length GPO

2010-08-26 Thread Ken Schaefer
Nothing. Password policy is processed (and enforced) when a user changes a password. Cheers Ken From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] Sent: Thursday, 26 August 2010 9:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Minimum password length GPO Hi all, If a default domain

Re: Minimum password length GPO

2010-08-26 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 9:42 AM, David Mazzaccaro david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com wrote: If a default domain policy GPO states min password length is 7 and I change it to min password length 8… what will happen to those users who are currently using 7 characters? Password policy is enforced

RE: Windows 95.

2010-08-26 Thread Holstrom, Don
Our old phone system still runs on DOS. I've been sweating this for years... -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 10:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows 95. On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 9:14 PM, Richard Stovall

RE: Minimum password length GPO

2010-08-26 Thread David Mazzaccaro
Thank you all for confirming this. -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 9:48 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Minimum password length GPO On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 9:42 AM, David Mazzaccaro

Re: Windows 95.

2010-08-26 Thread James Rankin
Good God. I've only got eight 2003 R2 systems left to upgrade, and three XP workstations. On 26 August 2010 14:55, Holstrom, Don dholst...@nbm.org wrote: Our old phone system still runs on DOS. I've been sweating this for years... -Original Message- From: Ben Scott

RE: Insecure Library Loading Vulnerability

2010-08-26 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Yeah, seriously. Is it a flaw that should have been rectified earlier? Sure. Is there response NOW what I would hope for? Yes. I'd rather a company be willing to change posture for the better than not. -sc -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent:

RE: Insecure Library Loading Vulnerability

2010-08-26 Thread Michael B. Smith
I can't go along with you here. This has been documented as an issue -- for decades -- and MSFT has told people how to do it right -- for decades. Don't blame MSFT as a company for people (including some internal programmers!) for not following safe programming recommendations. Changing this

Re: Windows 95.

2010-08-26 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 9:54 AM, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com wrote: Good God. I've only got eight 2003 R2 systems left to upgrade, and three XP workstations. IBM mainframe systems are well-known for having programs written in assembler in the 1960s still in production. We PC people

RE: Insecure Library Loading Vulnerability

2010-08-26 Thread Steven M. Caesare
their Oof. Apparently I can blame Jeff. -sc -Original Message- From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 9:57 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Insecure Library Loading Vulnerability Yeah, seriously. Is it a flaw that

Re: Insecure Library Loading Vulnerability

2010-08-26 Thread Andrew S. Baker
The problem is one of market share and compatibility. (not the normal market share argument) - Microsoft made a bad decision long ago. - Changing that decision very early would have been good, but that didn't happen. - Changing that decision more recently (via OS upgrade or patch)

RE: Windows 95.

2010-08-26 Thread Terry Dickson
I still have a set or two in the safe across the room, boy do I need to clean that out. From: Don Guyer [mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com] Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 8:15 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 95. I FINALLY let go and just threw out the Win 95 floppies that I

RE: Insecure Library Loading Vulnerability

2010-08-26 Thread Ziots, Edward
Apply the hotfix accordingly. Set the registry key on a machine, export the .REG file and apply via a computer Startup GPO to the targeted systems. Or you can use regini to script out the install, etc etc. Z Edward E. Ziots CISSP, Network +, Security + Network Engineer Lifespan

RE: New Attacks on Adobe Shockwave APSB10-020 has been released.

2010-08-26 Thread Ziots, Edward
Anything Symantec is pushing, I don't want a part of J Like I said before, Mcafee ( Ugh_ Symantec, more Ugh) Z Edward E. Ziots CISSP, Network +, Security + Network Engineer Lifespan Organization Email:ezi...@lifespan.org Cell:401-639-3505 From: richardmccl...@aspca.org

Re: Insecure Library Loading Vulnerability

2010-08-26 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: Microsoft's software has been criticized for its search path behavior for literally decades. This has been documented as an issue -- for decades -- and MSFT has told people how to do it right -- for decades. A

RE: Insecure Library Loading Vulnerability

2010-08-26 Thread Ziots, Edward
+1, M$ has documented the right way of doing it, it's the developers of the software that is vulnerable that are the main culprit. Doesn't mean that we aren't going to live a lot of pain from this one Just another issue on the pile to deal with. Glad I got a HIPS around the workstations,

RE: Windows 95.

2010-08-26 Thread Don Guyer
The cardboard floppy box I was carrying around in my laptop bag, for probably 10+ years, literally fell apart in my hands when I took it out, so I figured it was time to send them off to the next world. Don Guyer Systems Engineer - Information Services Prudential, Fox Roach/Trident Group

Re: Insecure Library Loading Vulnerability

2010-08-26 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote: Changing that decision more recently (via OS upgrade or patch) would have a debilitating impact on compatibility ... My beef is not that Microsoft valued compatibility, but that they didn't take this vulnerability

RE: Insecure Library Loading Vulnerability

2010-08-26 Thread Michael B. Smith
Customers can't have it both ways. You (the editorial you, not you specifically) can't require MSFT to always provide compatible interfaces and then scream when that causes problems. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original

RE: Insecure Library Loading Vulnerability

2010-08-26 Thread Carl Houseman
Outlook relies on it? What version? My 2007 hasn't noticed a difference since applying the workaround patch and registry value=2. Carl -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 10:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re:

RE: Windows 95.

2010-08-26 Thread Jacob
I know someone that still has a 98 machine. Every now and then he will call me to fix some issue with it. His calls just go to my voice mall ;-) -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 6:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject:

Re: Insecure Library Loading Vulnerability

2010-08-26 Thread Andrew S. Baker
There are quite a number of programs that break with the change. People have found some mitigation for some of them already. See the comments here: http://isc.sans.edu/diary.html?storyid=9445 *ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker *Exploiting Technology for Business

Re: Insecure Library Loading Vulnerability

2010-08-26 Thread Andrew S. Baker
Problems occur more with the 0x option, than the others. *ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker *Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...* * * Signature powered by http://www.wisestamp.com/email-install?utm_source=extensionutm_medium=emailutm_campaign=footer

Re: Minimum password length GPO

2010-08-26 Thread Andrew S. Baker
Change the password age. :) That'll take impact rather quickly. *ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker *Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...* * * Signature powered by http://www.wisestamp.com/email-install?utm_source=extensionutm_medium=emailutm_campaign=footer

RE: Minimum password length GPO

2010-08-26 Thread Kennedy, Jim
You can also just mass select the accounts in ADUC, right click properties and hit the checkbox for must change password at next login. That is how I did our migration to more complex passwords. That let me do it a department at a time and control the help desk load. From: Andrew S. Baker

Re: Minimum password length GPO

2010-08-26 Thread James Rankin
I once enforced a password age policy on an NT4 domain where previously there had been none. And where about 300 of the salesforce users had machines that couldn't find a route to the PDC (they were using lmhosts files for resolution with old entries in them). I was popular that morning :-) On 26

RE: Minimum password length GPO

2010-08-26 Thread David Mazzaccaro
Ah.. great idea! thx! From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 10:37 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Minimum password length GPO You can also just mass select the accounts in ADUC, right click

RE: Windows 95.

2010-08-26 Thread John Aldrich
Our voicemail system runs on OS/2. Fortunately, I have an image of the hard drive, should it ever crash. Of course, if the Dialogic boards ever die, we're up a creek. :-) -Original Message- From: Holstrom, Don [mailto:dholst...@nbm.org] Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 9:55 AM To: NT

Re: Insecure Library Loading Vulnerability

2010-08-26 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.com wrote: Outlook relies on it?  What version? Someone has reported that Outlook 2002 changes directory to load the MAPI DLLs: http://isc.sans.edu/diary.html?storyid=9445 (comment from Erik van Straten) My 2007 hasn't noticed

Re: Insecure Library Loading Vulnerability

2010-08-26 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: You (the editorial you, not you specifically) can't require MSFT to always provide compatible interfaces and then scream when that causes problems. Why not, people do that all the time? ;-) -- Ben ~ Finally,

RE: Windows 95.

2010-08-26 Thread Phillip Partipilo
Our NEC Electra voicemail system is DOS based. Not a very large image either. The hard disk is 1.2gb, out of which maybe a hundred megabytes is used. I have an image of it, but the bummer is that the mainboard is picky about hard disk size. I procured a 8gb PATA SSD that I thought would work

Re: Insecure Library Loading Vulnerability

2010-08-26 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote: There are quite a number of programs that break with the change. People have found some mitigation for some of them already. See the comments here:  http://isc.sans.edu/diary.html?storyid=9445 Ah, some new comments

RE: Insecure Library Loading Vulnerability

2010-08-26 Thread Carl Houseman
Never mind, and Outlook's behavior (assuming it does need .DLLs from the CWD) isn't significant to the problem at hand. I doubt that any COTS app will break with the Microsoft patch installed and system-wide registry setting=2. Carl -Original Message- From: Carl Houseman

Re: DS Commands

2010-08-26 Thread Sean Martin
Thanks for advice. I haven't bitten the PS bullet yet. I guess now is as good a time as any. Even though there are probably easier ways to accomplish my task. I still want to know why my method isn't working. - Sean On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 4:22 PM, KenM kenmli...@gmail.com wrote: Not sure if

Re: Windows 95.

2010-08-26 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Phillip Partipilo p...@psnet.com wrote: Our NEC Electra voicemail system is DOS based. ... I have an image of it, but the bummer is that the mainboard is picky about hard disk size. One thing going for you is that DOS stuff largely didn't care about

RE: Insecure Library Loading Vulnerability

2010-08-26 Thread Carl Houseman
Why would anyone use the 0x option to combat the vulnerability? CWD on the local system is not a part of the threat landscape. I can't help myself - it's another Dr. Dr. it hurts when I do this... problem. Carl From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday,

RE: Windows 95. Hijack - OS/2 voicemail

2010-08-26 Thread Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
Let me guess... ActiveVoice Repartee? You can still source dialogic boards, by the way... http://www.voxeo.com/dialogic/ Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE Technology Coordinator Eagle Physicians Associates, PA jra...@eaglemds.com www.eaglemds.com -Original Message- From: John Aldrich

Re: Insecure Library Loading Vulnerability

2010-08-26 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.com wrote: Never mind, and Outlook's behavior (assuming it does need .DLLs from the CWD) isn't significant to the problem at hand.  I doubt that any COTS app will break with the Microsoft patch installed and system-wide registry

RE: Insecure Library Loading Vulnerability

2010-08-26 Thread Carl Houseman
See my response to ASB. Those who are setting the registry value to INT_MAX don't understand the problem they are trying to prevent. Carl -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 10:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re:

Re: Insecure Library Loading Vulnerability

2010-08-26 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.com wrote: Why would anyone use the 0x option to combat the vulnerability? For the same reason people wanted a way to influence this behavior before it started being attacked: Because it's quite likely that someday it

Re: Insecure Library Loading Vulnerability

2010-08-26 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.com wrote: Only CWDIllegalInDllSearch=INT_MAX would cause the problem. See my response to ASB.  Those who are setting the registry value to INT_MAX don't understand the problem they are trying to prevent. See my response to

RE: Insecure Library Loading Vulnerability

2010-08-26 Thread Carl Houseman
I didn't forget, I read the patch documentation thoroughly. With registry value=2, if the app is run from a network share then loading DLLs from a network share is *allowed*. I guess that means vulnerable apps running from a network share aren't protected by the patch with registry value=2.

RE: Insecure Library Loading Vulnerability

2010-08-26 Thread Ken Schaefer
Not entirely. My current customer is a government, and they are worried about APT (advanced persistent threats). The fear isn't that one breach and it's game over. It's a fear that a vulnerability can be used to inject something, that will then be utilised sometime down the track when defences

RE: Minimum password length GPO

2010-08-26 Thread Ken Schaefer
That's not quite the same as what Ben's asking for. It will force everyone to change their password, regardless of whether their current password meets the new requirement or not. Cheers Ken From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] Sent: Thursday, 26 August 2010 10:42 PM

RE: Windows 95.

2010-08-26 Thread John Aldrich
Our Voicemail machine is an NEC NEAXMail AD-40 Repartee system running on a Dell Optiplex G1. Fortunately, there is a monitor hooked up to the system, so I can see the boot messages, etc. -Original Message- From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:p...@psnet.com] Sent: Thursday, August 26,

RE: Windows 95. Hijack - OS/2 voicemail

2010-08-26 Thread John Aldrich
Yep. Repartee indeed. :-) As for the Dialogic cards, yes, you can get them, but do they still make them in ISA??? I'm not sure if the card slots in this computer are PCI or ISA. It's an old Optiplex G1, no X in there anywhere... -Original Message- From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle

RE: Insecure Library Loading Vulnerability

2010-08-26 Thread Carl Houseman
If an attacker can get his .DLL into your local CWD, he can probably get his .EXE to run on your computer as well, so why bother with the .DLL-based attack. Point is, the MS patch and reg value=2 has a very slim chance of breaking something and provides excellent protection against known attack

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2010-08-26 Thread John Cook
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RE: Windows 95.

2010-08-26 Thread tony patton
We have a lot of Oce 3165/2050/1055 printers that have a PC attached to them, they all run OS/2. Thankfully we don't have to do anything with them, but it's fun when there is a power failure, facilities won't put them on the UPS circuit. Regards Tony Patton Desktop Support Analyst - Cavan Ext

RE: Bandwidth problems

2010-08-26 Thread Lists - Level5
Thanks guys for trying to help. We have a 20MB MetroEthernet that was plugged into a Cisco router, the cisco was removed last night as a possible issue, and it wasn't needed anyway. We have jumbo frames throughout, but on the WAN I cannot enable more than 1500 MTU. I am installing

RE: Bandwidth problems

2010-08-26 Thread Lists - Level5
Rich, all the security stuff is disabled, we didn't need it anyway but I took it off as a precaution the other day. From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 12:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Bandwidth problems Do you have any of the

Re: Minimum password length GPO

2010-08-26 Thread Jeff Steward
True, but short of running password audit tools it is the only way to guarantee that all users meet the new complexity requirement. -Jeff On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: That’s not quite the same as what Ben’s asking for. It will force everyone to

RE: Windows 95. Hijack - OS/2 voicemail

2010-08-26 Thread Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
We're running our Repartee on a G1 tower as well. The Optiplex G1 has both ISA and PCI slots. http://support.dell.com/support/systemsinfo/document.aspx?c=usl=ens=hea~file=/systems/ddur/specs.htm The voicemail you have actually has an option for email integration...pretty snazzy for circa 2000.

Re: Windows 95.

2010-08-26 Thread Bob Hartung
Not as dead as you might think. We have (2) Mitsubishi Lasers we purchased within the last 3 years and guess what they use on the controls for these $800,000 machines? Windows 95 :-( -- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608)

RE: Bandwidth problems

2010-08-26 Thread John Aldrich
That *almost* sounds like a DNS issue, like maybe the Sonicwall is blocking DNS requests for HTTP/HTTPS. John-AldrichTile-Tools From: Lists - Level5 [mailto:li...@levelfive.us] Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 11:38 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Bandwidth problems Thanks

RE: New Attacks on Adobe Shockwave APSB10-020 has been released.

2010-08-26 Thread Carl Houseman
Eh? I just went to www.adobe.com, clicked get Adobe shockwave player, installed it, and I have nothing from Symantec on the computer. I only had to uncheck a free Google toolbar checkbox. Exactly what Symantec product are we talking about? Carl From: richardmccl...@aspca.org

RE: Windows 95. Hijack - OS/2 voicemail

2010-08-26 Thread John Aldrich
Nope. I was not aware that it had email integration available. As for the OS/2, I'll keep that handy. Hopefully I never will need help, but you never know. :-) -Original Message- From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 11:40 AM To: NT

Re: Insecure Library Loading Vulnerability

2010-08-26 Thread Jeff Steward
If you are supporting a WinXP and/or Server 2003 environment you can use a tool such as 'Exe to MSI Converter' to wrap the executable in an MSI package and deploy via GPO. 'Exe to MSI Converter' can be found here. http://www.qwertylab.com/FreeTools.aspx -Jeff On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 2:41 AM,

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