Well we have been on NetSat for many years and yes their tech support is
pretty good, lately we have had some problems we are on v 8.5 and
apparently there is a bug and the server stops responding every few days,
so we need to go to 8.7, I have spun up a new VM 2008 R2 and installed v
8.7 I have
It's called a swing migration, although in your case it's a little convoluted
it's pretty much the same thing. www.sbsmigration.com
Dave
-Original Message-
From: James R. Costa, MCP [mailto:james.co...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 5:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
What a mess.
SBS 2011 Essentials will not support Exchange. That's why he has it installed
on another box. It looks like Essentials was installed to replace an old DC and
try to update the network. But that's in the past now.
I would plan to install a new version of SBS 2011 Premium based on
Server virtualization?
Desktop virtualization?
Application virtualization?
Profile/user virtualization?
All different parts of the virtualization tree.
If you are talking server, VMWare and Microsoft are probably the biggest
players
Desktops - I wouldn't look any further than Citrix
Application
LOL
I was right there with you at the beginning of 2012.
We just signed off on FINALLY getting VMware and a SAN in here. Should
be happening in the next weeks.
We are 100% physical right now (10 servers).
Getting 3 hosts, a SAN, 2 SAN switches, and a bunch of software (VMWare
Essentials
Hey David.
My recommendation: Start small. Find a desktop with a VM enabled chip and
create a little VM server. All of the major players have a free version to use:
VMWare: ESXi (The industry standard)
Microsot: Hyper-V Server (Quickly gaining popularity)
Citrix: XenServer (Best for Desktop
I haven't done much ThinApp, to be fair. How easy is it to package stuff
up? I find App-V dead easy, but then again it was the first thing I used
for it. My other main packaging experience was with Citrix Streaming, and
that ain't great at all.
One thing I will say for App-V is that it's dead
Here's some things I learned:
* The host servers will have several NICS.
They will connect to the new switches (2 for redundancy), and the 2 new
switches connect the SAN.
The host servers also connect to your LAN via their other NICs, but you
have to think of the SAN as its own mini
Trying to understand this phenomenon :
Background:
Win2kr2 Domain environment with
1 root domain root.local
1 child domain: ad.local
Wireless network setup - with SSID - Martini - all working fine
Q. First : When a network is connected the wireless connection the display
suggests context as
Thinapp is easy peasy. Start with a reference machine, run the Thinapp wizard,
share out the package it creates. First run it will create any local folders
necessary but after that it's just a matter of clicking on the exe from the
package which we generally give them a shortcut to.
John W.
Thanks all,
I know I will have 6 servers to virtualize. Outside of that I am not
sure. I am waiting on specs.
I will look through archives and trying and get more info going forward.
-Original Message-
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org]
Posted At: Tuesday,
Ease of deployment and expansion. If you use the Dell stuff along with
VDI-In-A-Box, you basically just buy what you need, stand it up and add
more as necessary. It's dead easy to get it set up and running - hence the
name.
However - there is currently no migration process between the higher-end
One final point - don't forget that XenApp (traditional Citrix, as it
were) can provide a lot of the VDI features through a published desktop.
I've seen many places looking at VDI solutions that didn't consider
published desktops in XenApp. A lot of these implementations didn't need
VDI (either
No client at all? Just a shortcut to an executable? Sounds interesting.
---Blackberried
-Original Message-
From: John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 17:06:16
To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues
Depends on what you are looking for. So you are currently using WSUS. Have
you looked at SCCM (2007 or 2012) , which will give you SUP? Altiris is
in that space as well. Do you need 3rd party updates? SCUP can do that as
part of SCCM, but Altiris has this natively. Both of those applications
Good luck!
Also consider VM Sprawl.
You may have 6 servers now, but that could very easily double or triple.
(testing, backup, upgrades, redundancy, load balancing, etc...)
-Original Message-
From: itli...@imcu.com [mailto:itli...@imcu.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 12:09 PM
It's like butter!
John W. Cook
Network Operations Manager
Partnership For Strong Families
5950 NW 1st Place
Gainesville, Fl 32607
Office (352) 244-1610
Cell (352) 215-6944
MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4
From: Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Tuesday,
Thinly provisioning servers, too.
In that most of my servers now host a single app or role. I went from 3
physical to 10 virtual, but I planned it out.
On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 12:45 PM, David Mazzaccaro
david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com wrote:
Good luck!
Also consider VM Sprawl.
You may
Boy, you've got that right. About 18 months ago, we started with about 30
servers on 5 hosts. It's now up to around 60 servers and just last week we
doubled the memory in the hosts. I plan to budget for a new host next year.
-Original Message-
From: David Mazzaccaro
Yes, 10 currently.
Good to know I should be able to scale to 120.
Thanks!
From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 1:10 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: A question about Virtualization
3 hosts for 10 servers?!?!?!!?!?! I have 3
Every few days I have to reinstall it because the database becomes corrupt.
The biggest issue is that I can set an ldap ou but it won't traverse the
directory. There were posts on how to do that but I never could get that to
work reliably.
On Nov 6, 2012, at 1:37 PM, Matthew W. Ross
I've always run my servers with 'one box, one app' in mind - and
virtualizing is saving us a lot of money for hardware, etc.
Now all I have to do is convince some folks to let me virtualize the
remaining machines, and I'll be very happy.
Kurt
On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Jonathan Link
You should also take a look at System Center 2012 VMM (with SP1). It's very
slick!
-Original Message-
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org]
Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 12:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: VDI in a Box?
Hey list.
We're just starting to
We have all user accounts in one OU, openfire required us to put the groups
inside that OU☹
Gregg Overly
Technology Resources – Core Systems
Texas State University
1-512-245-6861
gr...@txstate.edu
From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 12:50 PM
To: NT
Skype? Even Microsoft is moving away from Messenger to Skype.
From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 1:50 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Instant Messaging replacement
Every few days I have to reinstall it because the database
If you're using Citrix, then PVS is the mutt's nuts when dealing with
virtualized systems. Seeing as Webster is asleep after 40 hours awake, I
thought I'd better plug all the Citrix products in his absence :-)
---Blackberried
-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com
Date:
We're using VMware Essentials Plus, and standard MSFT servers - no Citrix
here. Not a need for it at this point.
Kurt
On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 11:19 AM, Rankin, James R kz2...@googlemail.comwrote:
**
If you're using Citrix, then PVS is the mutt's nuts when dealing with
virtualized systems.
With that in mind, keep a watch for development machines that never go away and
development machines that magically become production. It's easy to do when
you're not buying hardware to support your test environment anymore.
My 2 cents.
Paul
-Original Message-
From: Chinnery,
I thought Skype was more video focused?
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 2:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Instant Messaging replacement
Skype? Even Microsoft is moving away from Messenger to Skype.
From: Tom Miller
And more of a consumer product… Can it archive all messages in the
organization for legal discovery yet?
From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 1:58 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Instant Messaging replacement
I thought Skype was more
Skype has video capability, but not required.
From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 2:58 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Instant Messaging replacement
I thought Skype was more video focused?
From: Rod Trent
Pffft. I'm sure between the list members here if you need a tiger team to
sort your virtualization project we can put one together. I'm calling first
dibs on the application/user virtualization piece :-)
---Blackberried
-Original Message-
From: Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.com
Date:
That about sums it up. And its all chargeable by the hour :-)
---Blackberried
-Original Message-
From: itli...@imcu.com itli...@imcu.com
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 15:24:31
To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues
All joking aside, I've worked on contracts where a squad of specialists from
this list could have done a far better and more cost-effective job than the
consultants actually involved. Don't know whether anyone recalls a message I
mistakenly sent to the list two years ago meant for Webster that
On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Don Ely don@gmail.com wrote:
3 hosts for 10 servers?!?!?!!?!?! I have 3 hosts and I run 120 servers on
them SAN switches? Kool-aid taste good?
I do 120 VMs on 6 hosts, w/256G RAM ea. Soon to be 512G, so we can
run more VMs ... all backed by an FC SAN
Should you decide to do the swing migration pony up for the SBS migration
package. If it's something you don't do often (or will ever again) it's worth
the knowledge and support.
John W. Cook
Network Operations Manager
Partnership For Strong Families
5950 NW 1st Place
Gainesville, Fl 32607
+1
It was the best $200 I spent during our migration from physical to virtual.
I had an issue and it was a relatively common issue with the steps for
resolving it clearly detailed. I couldn't tell you what the issue was, as
I did this several years ago.
On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 4:43 PM, John
From your description I thought it was a mess. Calling it backwards is being
polite. :-)
Yes, the new server is powerful enough. I was afraid based on the other
machines it had like 4 or 8 gig for memory. That's was one beefy box to run SBS
2011 Essentials. They must have had ideas for that
SP1 has been released?
-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 2:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VDI in a Box?
You should also take a look at System Center 2012 VMM (with SP1). It's very
slick!
Hopping on here late, but there isn't a local software client needed to get
APP-V to deliver apps? What's the benefit of deploying an App-V application
vs a published App via XenApp? I feel like I'm missing a key difference
here because if you're a Citrix shop what are you missing by not using
Not yet. “rumored” to be first of 2013.
Sent from Windows Mail
From: Ryan Finnesey
Sent: November 6, 2012 8:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VDI in a Box?
SP1 has been released?
-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent:
Fascinating article.
The Ripple Effect of Windows 8 - Datamation
http://www.datamation.com/applications/the-ripple-effect-of-windows-8-1.html
When our firm's employees found Windows 8 too unwieldy, we transitioned to
Linux Mint instead and soon found that we didn't need any Microsoft
On 30 Oct 2012 at 12:23, Oliver Marshall wrote:
Hi
Not the right list I know but I thought you might be able to help.
I have the date in the format of .mm.dd. I need to format that to
ddmm within a batch file.
Does anyone know how to do that or know of a small commad line
On 14 Oct 2012 at 22:23, Robert Cato wrote:
What color is the mouse?
Is the secretary single?
+1
Sorry, it's been a bad week and I needed a laugh.
[BSEG]
--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/
~ Finally, powerful endpoint
On 4 Oct 2012 at 9:43, Sam Cayze wrote:
Obligatory:
http://xkcd.com/378/
+42
--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/
~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~
On 12 Oct 2012 at 7:46, Andrew S. Baker wrote:
LOL
For littl' ol' me? I'm honored. :)
Indeed you should be.
ASB
http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker
Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market...
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 11:39 PM, Michael B. Smith
On 27 Sep 2012 at 19:50, N Parr wrote:
It's already been discussed and solved.
http://xkcd.com/627/
+42
xkcd has the answer to most problems
--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/
~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T
You probably need a quadruple bucky
http://catb.org/jargon/html/Q/quadruple-bucky.html
--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/
~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~
Wow.
Interesting article, and I didn't realize that Datamation was still alive...
Kurt
On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 7:03 PM, Angus Scott-Fleming angu...@geoapps.comwrote:
Fascinating article.
The Ripple Effect of Windows 8 - Datamation
Its the packaging. To run an app thru Citrix it needs to be installed on a
Citrix server. If it is delivered via App-V all you need is the client on the
server, which can then run hundreds or thousands of apps without any of them
needing to be installed. They are also self-contained - you can
That's an eye opener, thanks James. So the client on the server simply
calls the installation binaries that exist on that same server or a shared
folder that could sit on the SAN ? Not having to install applications on
Citirix servers is a MAJOR plus. And as you mentioned, the Citrix Streaming
Angus
This is a really good article and should be a case study on how not to manage
change in an organisation. Regardless of the technology or solution when the
end users 'push back' on change you can either demonstrate the value in the
product and the IT department or give in and accept that
The client calls the package or sequence that you put together using the
App-V Sequencer (similar to a Citrix profiler). This sequence is a capture of
the installation which then streams all the files, folders, reg keys, etc. down
to the client and runs the app. You can run this stream from a
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