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ot;If it turns out the repair and service agreement is close to the cost of a new unit, that might serve as an option for you as well." Before I go down the route of fix or replace I'm wondering if I should look into disk based backup? I'm looking to backup about 1.5 TB per night

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n replaced. With that in mind, we're considering conversion to disk based backup media, and we want removable disks so we can send media off site regularly. I'd be interested in what devices and software are currently in use or at least what recommendations you might have. Murray

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.com] Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 6:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Disk based backup Hi guys, I did a search on subject headings for this year to see if I could find anything about this, but nothing jumped out at me. I have a 1-1/2 year old Tandberg Data T24 storage library and the

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Check out Data Domain. From: Evan Brastow [mailto:ebras...@automatedemblem.com] Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 3:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Disk based backup Hi guys, I did a search on subject headings for this year to see if I could find anything about this, but

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...@gmail.com] Sent: Mon 9/14/2009 6:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Disk based backup Check out Data Domain. From: Evan Brastow [mailto:ebras...@automatedemblem.com] Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 3:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Disk based backup Hi guys, I did a

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Mind if I ask cost? -Marty - Sent from my Windows Mobile® phone. From: Richard Stovall Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 4:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Disk based backup +1 We have a DD530 here and it

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Exagrid! From: Evan Brastow [mailto:ebras...@automatedemblem.com] Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 6:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Disk based backup Hi guys, I did a search on subject headings for this year to see if I could find anything

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the cost of a new unit, that might serve as an option for you as well.” > > > > Before I go down the route of fix or replace I’m wondering if I should look > into disk based backup? I’m looking to backup about 1.5 TB per night in a > window that is about six hours in length be

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d Stovall [mailto:richard.stov...@researchdata.com] Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 7:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Disk based backup +1 We have a DD530 here and it has been well worth the cost. A quick glance at the nightly emails shows that I threw about 2.8TB of raw data at it last Friday

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didn't get a chance to see the cost of FalconStor. I paid about $5500 for my Tandberg T24 library which gave me 38TB of compressed storage (800GB/1.6TB per tape.) As far as off site storage, I hadn't actually thought about that when thinking of moving to disk based backup. That could

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26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Disk based backup Hi guys, I wanted to thank everyone for their suggestions... I looked at Exagrid, DataDoimain and FalconStor, and I think I left out a key fact in my email... budget! My apologies! Exagrid and DataDomain were in the $18k to $22k

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I didn’t get a chance > to see the cost of FalconStor. > > > > I paid about $5500 for my Tandberg T24 library which gave me 38TB of > compressed storage (800GB/1.6TB per tape.) > > > > As far as off site storage, I hadn’t actually thought about that when > thinking of

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Why not just take some external drives and mount them in whatever you use (BEX/UB etc) and rotate the drives. At 79 bucks for a 1TB SATA, or 89 for a USB version, you could do a 5 day rotation for 2 weeks for 900 dollars if you can get the data on 1tb. If you want to be more involved do the back

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USB Drives fast? On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 7:14 PM, Benjamin Zachary - Lists < li...@levelfive.us> wrote: > Why not just take some external drives and mount them in whatever you use > (BEX/UB etc) and rotate the drives. > > At 79 bucks for a 1TB SATA, or 89 for a USB version, you could do a 5 day >

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On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 9:50 PM, Jonathan Link wrote: > USB Drives fast? For random access vs. tape? Sure! Sustained write throughput, not so much... :-) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~

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: Disk based backup Why not just take some external drives and mount them in whatever you use (BEX/UB etc) and rotate the drives. At 79 bucks for a 1TB SATA, or 89 for a USB version, you could do a 5 day rotation for 2 weeks for 900 dollars if you can get the data on 1tb. If you want to be more

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static.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Disk based backup USB connected drives are way too slow. LTO4 alone should get you 5x-6x the speed of a USB connected drive (YMMV) Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: Benjamin Zachary - Lists

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m: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Disk based backup USB connected drives are way too slow. LTO4 alone should get you 5x-6x the speed of a USB connected drive (YMMV) Cheers Ken -Original Message- From:

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: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Disk based backup eSata will be about 1.5x what you can get with USB only (assuming you are copying to a single target disk). I've generally found that USB2 pea

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tape drive to a more reliable RAID array with a robot. It always depends on your budget. Regards, Miguel --- El mié, 16/9/09, Sam Cayze escribió: > De: Sam Cayze > Asunto: RE: Disk based backup > Para: "NT System Admin Issues" > Fecha: miércoles, 16 septiembre,

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2009 1:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Disk based backup Wow! Had no idea. I've been on eSATA drives for years now, ditched tapes for the speed and reliability. Ken, do the restore speeds also show this type of performance? Because ultimately that's what matters,

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LTO4 has been around for a couple of years. Are you thinking LTO5? Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: Miguel Gonzalez [mailto:miguel_3_gonza...@yahoo.es] Sent: Wednesday, 16 September 2009 4:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Disk based backup are LTO4 already in the market

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So get a workstation with a 4 bay sata hot swap. Basically for the price I would take a handful of sata drives over tapes. By the time you get a fast library that can keep up your in the multi thousands. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~

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, September 15, 2009 11:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Disk based backup USB connected drives are way too slow. LTO4 alone should get you 5x-6x the speed of a USB connected drive (YMMV) Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: Benjamin Zachary - Lists [mailto:li...@levelfive.us] S

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AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Disk based backup But now wouldn't eSATA be a good alternative ? I haven't benchmarked throughput but *should* be as good as internal, right ? Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, & Security -Original Message- From

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Uh... ya. -sc > -Original Message- > From: Miguel Gonzalez [mailto:miguel_3_gonza...@yahoo.es] > Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 2:23 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Disk based backup > > are LTO4 already in the market? We are getting info that

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Dave [mailto:d...@parkviewmc.com] Sent: Thursday, 17 September 2009 12:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Disk based backup You would think esata throughput would be much better. I am looking at a promise tx4302 pci card that specs 3gb/sec for esata. This is for both the internal connector

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System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Disk based backup That's simply the maximum burst throughput range of SATA2 (original SATA was 1.5gbps). There is no way that a single disk can deliver that throughput. My testing (YMMV) is that eSATA will give you about 1.5x the speed of USB2 Cheer

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On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 9:15 PM, Terry Dickson wrote: > Keep an eye on Sata, Sata3 is coming fast and > the speed will a HUGE difference. Modern hard drives can sustain, what, maybe 0.4 to 0.6 Gbit/sec? Even the 3 Gbit/sec we have now is much higher than that. How is moving to 6 Gbit/sec going

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, September 17, 2009 11:26 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Disk based backup On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 9:15 PM, Terry Dickson wrote: > Keep an eye on Sata, Sata3 is coming fast and > the speed will a HUGE difference. Modern hard drives can sustain, what, maybe 0.4 to 0.6 Gbit/sec

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What makes you think they don't today? -sc > -Original Message- > From: Alverson, Tom (Xetron) [mailto:tom.alver...@ngc.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 4:10 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Disk based backup > > All they need to d

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g 2 heads at a time. Tom -Original Message- From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 9:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Disk based backup What makes you think they don't today? -sc ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that I

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Sorry, I didn't know what i was thinking about...I meant LTO5 that they will be release in the coming year... --- El mié, 16/9/09, Miguel Gonzalez escribió: > De: Miguel Gonzalez > Asunto: RE: Disk based backup > Para: "NT System Admin Issues" > Fecha: miércole

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placed. > With that in mind, we're considering conversion to disk based backup media, > and we want removable disks so we can send media off site regularly. I'd be > interested in what devices and software are currently in use or at least > what recommendations you might h

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:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: DISK BASED BACKUP Go with the native tools in Windows 2008 and use disks instead. Depending on which 2008 you can do different things. R2 is better than the orginal. If the entire server is less than a TB then a simple USB drive. Jon On Tue, Apr

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Perhaps eSATA then. From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 4:18 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: DISK BASED BACKUP I do have multiple servers to be backed up, so I suspect that the USB interface may be too

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I use Netbackup and vRanger (ESX) for backups at 2 different sites. I hate tapes, so I just set up some iSCSI LUNs and back up to that. Once a week we copy the Netbackup (or vRanger) images to a couple large USB drivse and send them offsite. Works pretty well. Actual file copies can be slow, so

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sue 3 tape drives to back up our servers, and are using NTBackup on Windows Server 2003. We will be moving to Windows Server 2008 maybe next year, and I'm aware that NTBackup has been replaced. With that in mind, we're considering conversion to disk based backup media, and we want removable di

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PM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: DISK BASED BACKUP > > Go with the native tools in Windows 2008 and use disks instead. > Depending on which 2008 you can do different things. R2 is better than the > orginal. If the entire server is less than a TB then a simple US

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Would esata be faster how about a cheap freenas box with iscsi A freenas box with 4 disk raid 0+1 Iscsi connection?? Any ideas. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Jon Harris Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 16:36:43 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: DISK BASED BACKUP

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On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Alverson, Tom (Xetron) wrote: >> Modern hard drives can sustain, what, maybe 0.4 to 0.6 Gbit/sec? >> Even the 3 Gbit/sec we have now is much higher than that. How is >> moving to 6 Gbit/sec going to help? :) > > All they need to do is upgrade the (on-board) cont

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ernal direct attached storage connected via eSATA) Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, 18 September 2009 10:37 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Hard disk technology (was: Disk based backup) On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Alverson

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s Subject: Hard disk technology (was: Disk based backup) On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Alverson, Tom (Xetron) wrote: >> Modern hard drives can sustain, what, maybe 0.4 to 0.6 Gbit/sec? >> Even the 3 Gbit/sec we have now is much higher than that. How is >> moving to 6 Gbit/se

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Message- From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 11:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Hard disk technology (was: Disk based backup) I have to agree with Ben here. If it were easy to do, it would have been done already. I suspect the

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out $30,000 for a 30GB > drive, and they were in the 3.5 in form factor to fit all the chips. > > Tom > > -Original Message- > From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 8:37 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Hard

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But this info is not in the specs of thee HD isn't it? So how do you know that is actually that fast before buying it? Miguel --- El lun, 21/9/09, Alverson, Tom (Xetron) escribió: > De: Alverson, Tom (Xetron) > Asunto: RE: Hard disk technology (was: Disk based backup) > Pa

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The heads are all locked together. There is no need to have them move independently. From: Scott Kaufman [mailto:bskauf...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 11:17 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Hard disk technology (was: Disk based backup) I'm very curious

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Issues Subject: RE: Hard disk technology (was: Disk based backup) The heads are all locked togethe There is no need to have them move independently. From: Scott Kaufman [mailto:bskauf...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 11:17 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Hard disk

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On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Scott Kaufman wrote: > So while it can interleave data across multiple > platters, all the heads would still be at the same > location on the platters. In a sequential read or write operation, by interleaving data across the platters (actually, sides of platter

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On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Alverson, Tom (Xetron) wrote: > I'm wondering why they have not done this yet as well. > Using more that 2 heads in parallel would at some > point be enough to saturate existing SATA interfaces. Unless they *are* already doing it, and the current speeds of hard

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On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Sam Cayze wrote: > It promises a sustained transfer rate of just 140MBps ... I presume they mean 140 Mbyte/sec, which is 1140 Mbit/sec (ignoring overhead). In other words, it can't even saturate first-generation SATA (1500 Mbit/sec), let alone second-generati

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Related: http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/seagate-2tb-barracuda-xt-worlds-first -sata-6gbps-hard-drive/ Haven't been following the thread, but just saw this on Engadget. "Ready for this speed freaks? Seagate just announced the world's first 2TB disk with full support for the third generation SA

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Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 12:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Hard disk technology (was: Disk based backup) On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Alverson, Tom (Xetron) wrote: > I'm wondering why they ha

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collection etc). -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 2:18 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Hard disk technology (was: Disk based backup) On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Sam Cayze wrote: > It promises a sustaine