. All you manage to do is make everyone poor.
TVK
From: Eric Woodford [mailto:ericwoodf...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 6:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Salary rant
So take it out of the pockets for all the employees for one of the
largest employers in the state
poor.
TVK
From: Eric Woodford [mailto:ericwoodf...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 6:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Salary rant
So take it out of the pockets for all the employees for one of the
largest employers in the state. In turn, we spend less
If politicians had even less money to spend, who do you think is going to pay
your current salary, let alone give you an increase?!
Cheers
Ken
From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, 17 August 2009 10:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Salary rant
From what I
...
From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 9:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Salary rant
From what I have seen and continue to see, politicians will spend until
there is nothing left to spend. I would prefer they not have
at all on IT spending.
Dave
From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 7:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Salary rant
From what I have seen and continue to see, politicians will spend until there
is nothing left to spend. I would prefer they not have
to begin with and the people raise hell about
that! And God forbid that we should ever have a balanced budget...
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*From:* Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Monday, August 17, 2009 9:17 AM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: Salary rant
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*From:* Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Monday, August 17, 2009 9:17 AM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: Salary rant
From what I have seen and continue to see, politicians will spend until
there is nothing left to spend. I would prefer they not have
Hey, folks, Stu asked for a voluntary thread-kill on this a few days
ago. Can you all take it off-list now? KTHXBYE.
(Sorry, I'm normally not a topic nazi, but this thread is starting
to annoy even me. And I have no authority to make any of you stop, of
course, but I think common sense
+1,000
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:
Hey, folks, Stu asked for a voluntary thread-kill on this a few days
ago. Can you all take it off-list now? KTHXBYE.
(Sorry, I'm normally not a topic nazi, but this thread is starting
to annoy even me. And I
Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Salary rant
Right. Heaven forbid anybody in the state a get a raise, a new school,
more teachers, more cops, firemen, equipment, infrastructure repairs,
etc etc. Perhaps you've heard healthcare prices keep rising? Gas
prices?
Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com 8/15/2009 12
, it does not work in real life. All you
manage to do is make everyone poor.
TVK
From: Eric Woodford [mailto:ericwoodf...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 6:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Salary rant
So take it out of the pockets for all the employees for one
[mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, 16 August 2009 4:00 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Salary rant
Prop 13 was the start of something good - limitations on government spending.
Unfortunately, though foreseeably and inevitably, legislative critters didn't
want the shackles of reality
As does a mandatory balanced budget with a line item veto. Florida is the
lowest paying state in the union and both come into play. We survive only
on sales taxes.
Jon
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
True enough, but given the foolishness pulling in so
...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 5:29 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Salary rant
As does a mandatory balanced budget with a line item veto. Florida is the
lowest paying state in the union and both come into play. We survive only
on sales taxes.
Jon
~ Finally, powerful
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*From:* Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Thursday, August 13, 2009 5:29 AM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: Salary rant
As does a mandatory balanced budget with a line item veto. Florida is
the lowest paying state in the union and both come into play
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*From:* Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Thursday, August 13, 2009 5:29 AM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: Salary rant
As does a mandatory balanced budget with a line item veto. Florida is
the lowest
Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Thursday, August 13, 2009 5:29 AM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: Salary rant
As does a mandatory balanced budget with a line item veto. Florida is
the lowest paying state in the union and both come into play. We survive
only on sales
on the federal level, line item veto is illegal because a bill is passed by
congress to be signed or vetoed. Guess states have different rules.
Jon Harris jk.har...@gmail.com 8/13/2009 2:28 AM
As does a mandatory balanced budget with a line item veto. Florida is the
lowest paying state in the
State constitutions can allow what they want to allow but it only goes for
State laws not federal. The fed's have run into this several times in the
past. Congress did not like having the Perz make changes like dumping pork
off a bill.
Jon
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 10:23 AM, RAY ZORZ
Heaton
Employment Training Panel
-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 4:59 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Salary rant
True enough, but given the foolishness pulling in so many directions
at once, a requirement
[mailto:ericwoodf...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 6:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Salary rant
So take it out of the pockets for all the employees for one of the largest
employers in the state. In turn, we spend less, and contribute less to the
sales tax base
Joe Heaton jhea...@etp.ca.gov 8/12/2009 1:32 PM
Our republican governator has been fighting with our Democratic
legislature, and using the state workers as pawns in his games.
Our Democratic governor has been fueding with our Republican state
legislature about our state budget. So the
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Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 4:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Salary rant
Ours (AZ) is still up in the air on the furloughs.
Joe Heaton jhea...@etp.ca.gov 8/12/2009 12:21 PM
I'm already hearing rumors that we could get a 4th, and even 5th
furlough day, in the next few months
Had nothing to do with Congress. They passed the bill, Clinton signed it. The
Supreme Court voided it.
Jon Harris jk.har...@gmail.com 8/13/2009 7:28 AM
State constitutions can allow what they want to allow but it only goes for
State laws not federal. The fed's have run into this several
wonderful in a story like Robin Hood, it does not work in real life. All you
manage to do is make everyone poor.
TVK
From: Eric Woodford [mailto:ericwoodf...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 6:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Salary rant
So take it out of the pockets for all
We just took a 14% pay cut (work for State of California). Yes, I do feel
for you. Venting works wonders sometimes.
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Carol Fee c...@massbar.org wrote:
Do you have any idea how many people the world over are taking pay cuts
these days ?
CFee
-Original
System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Salary rant
We just took a 14% pay cut (work for State of California). Yes, I do
feel for you. Venting works wonders sometimes.
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Carol Fee c...@massbar.org wrote:
Do you have any idea how many people the world over are taking pay
Training Panel
From: J Kyo [mailto:jky...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 12:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Salary rant
We just took a 14% pay cut (work for State of California). Yes, I do
feel for you. Venting works wonders sometimes.
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 1:56
Employment Training Panel
From: J Kyo [mailto:jky...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 12:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Salary rant
We just took a 14% pay cut (work for State of California). Yes, I do
feel for you. Venting works wonders sometimes.
On Tue, Aug
...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 12:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Salary rant
We just took a 14% pay cut (work for State of California). Yes, I do
feel for you. Venting works wonders sometimes.
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Carol Fee c...@massbar.org wrote
[mailto:rz...@azcorrections.gov]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 1:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Salary rant
Our republican governor is still arguing with our republican congress
about the budget.
Some things aren't quite done yet. Some agencies, however, have taken
big hits already
, such as the budget, and the contract thing.
Joe Heaton
Employment Training Panel
-Original Message-
From: RAY ZORZ [mailto:rz...@azcorrections.gov]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 1:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Salary rant
Our republican governor is still arguing with our republican
-Original Message-
From: Joe Heaton [mailto:jhea...@etp.ca.gov]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 4:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Salary rant
Our republican governator has been fighting with our Democratic legislature,
and using the state workers as pawns in his games. He
Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Salary rant
There's precedent for that ... In 1995 Bob Dole and Newt Gingrich shut down
the Federal Government three times and screwed with Federal Employees ...
And although they decided to grant full pay during the furlough, some of us
in IT were considered 'essential
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 13:32, Joe Heatonjhea...@etp.ca.gov wrote:
Our republican governator has been fighting with our Democratic
legislature, and using the state workers as pawns in his games. He
threatened federal minimum wage late last year, and he may bring that
back into the picture
Employment Training Panel
-Original Message-
From: RAY ZORZ [mailto:rz...@azcorrections.gov]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 1:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Salary rant
Our republican governor is still arguing with our republican congress
about the budget.
Some
When it comes to politics, regardless of your ideological persuasion, there
is no limit to the level of foolishness involved.
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 7:05 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 13:32, Joe Heatonjhea...@etp.ca.gov wrote:
Our republican governator has
True enough, but given the foolishness pulling in so many directions
at once, a requirement for a supermajority makes sure that a lot of it
cancels itself out.
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 16:53, Jonathan Linkjonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote:
When it comes to politics, regardless of your ideological
Do you have any idea how many people the world over are taking pay cuts
these days ?
CFee
-Original Message-
From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 4:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: Salary rant
I know I'm not going
Sorry they didn't keep their word, but yep, still be happy you're employed, and
sounds decent otherwise ... Salary is a game of supply and demand too.
Erik Goldoff
IT Consultant
Systems, Networks, Security
-Original Message-
From: Christopher Bodnar
You certainly have my sympathy, economy or not. The economy isn't an excuse for
lying to people. You win in the long run. They won't be able to keep you once
an better gig comes along. Take this one of course and keep looking.
From: Christopher Bodnar
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