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SD, and an external 512GB Crucial M4. The performance gain is just amazing From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Thursday, 5 April 2012 10:24 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: recommendations on home server Well the Neo's _ARE_ beefier than an Atom from a horsepo

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ete it. Just curious why gparted left something hanging around? From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Subject: RE: recommendations on home server Well the Neo's _ARE_ beefier than an Atom from a horsepower perspective, as well as supporting VT extensions... I certainly agree o

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Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 7:25 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: recommendations on home server > > On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 11:32 PM, Steven M. Caesare > wrote: > > I've had an atom-based machine. And when compared to a

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day, April 05, 2012 12:07 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: recommendations on home server Yeah, it's an AMD dual-core Neo, but since no one seems to know what that is, I've given up trying to explain it :-) Atom seems to have more recognition. FWIW, my team has another

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On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 11:32 PM, Steven M. Caesare wrote: > I’ve had an atom-based machine. And when compared to another box that had > practically the same disk specs, I could definitely feel the difference just > for simple workstation tasks. It still might not be the CPU. Maybe the "practic

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;effectively has a dual-core Atom CPU" does that actually mean something else? From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]<mailto:[mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 10:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: recommendations on home server Do

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gt; you running them anyway, or when you say “effectively has a dual-core > Atom CPU” does that actually mean something else? > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *From:* Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 04, 2012

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l-core Atom CPU" does that actually mean something else? From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 10:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: recommendations on home server Doing admin work takes up very little CPU... How much CPU is

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Issues Subject: RE: recommendations on home server > (I've been running a server at home since 2001) I'll see your 2001, and raise you a 1994. I do agree that generally you don't' need huge amounts of CPU over the long-haul average (I mean who really cares if your home ma

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From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 06:56:37 -0700 Subject: RE: recommendations on home server > Not sure what Atom processors you have but ESXi (which is what the OP was > asking about) isn't su

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to one. >>> It printed to an Apple LaserWriter via a Daystar Digital Appletalk card >>> (supported by NT out of the box!). >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Good times. >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> -sc >>> &

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SCSI FTW. Especially when real multithreaded OS's with ASYNC I/O hit. -sc From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 10:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: recommendations on home server Micron PC had a tough time filling the orde

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ssues Subject: Re: recommendations on home server Wow 128mb was hardcore in 1994! /tiphat! From: Webster mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com>> To: NT System Admin Issues mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>> Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2012 8:09 AM Su

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...@adopenstatic.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 10:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: recommendations on home server Respectfully disagree. I used to have servers like this, but they are loud and generate a lot of heat. Living in Singapore with 30+ C temperatures (90F) means cooling

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Ooh.. hardware RAID. Good times. -sc From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 9:37 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: recommendations on home server wow ... as long as we're strolling down memory lane, remember the Compaq Syst

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Howard [mailto:pchow...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 8:42 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: recommendations on home server Wow 128mb was hardcore in 1994! /tiphat! From: Webster To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Wednesday, April 4

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Wow 128mb was hardcore in 1994! /tiphat! From: Webster To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2012 8:09 AM Subject: Re: recommendations on home server IBM PC Network stuff[1].  Later I ran just about every PC based networking product that

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vely significant. Pushing media files around the house, or moving > .vmdk/.vhd files around on lower-end NICs or storage controllers sucks.*** > * > > ** ** > > -sc > > ** ** > > *From:* Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, Apri

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AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: recommendations on home server IBM PC Network stuff[1]. Later I ran just about every PC based networking product that ever came out. I stopped running servers when Desqview came out. Desqview allowed me to test my networking code without having to h

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ome from an IBM Mainframe background so IBM ruled my world then. From: "scaes...@caesare.com<mailto:scaes...@caesare.com>" mailto:scaes...@caesare.com>> Subject: RE: recommendations on home server Nice… what were you using to run it as a server? -sc From: Webster [mai

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Nice... what were you using to run it as a server? -sc From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 7:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: recommendations on home server I'll raise your 1994 to 1985 and my blazing fast IBM PC-AT at 6MHz

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<http://www.carlwebster.com/> From: "scaes...@caesare.com<mailto:scaes...@caesare.com>" mailto:scaes...@caesare.com>> Subject: RE: recommendations on home server > (I’ve been running a server at home since 2001) I’ll see your 2001, and raise you a 1994. ~ Finally, powerful end

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tem Admin Issues Subject: RE: recommendations on home server Respectfully disagree. I used to have servers like this, but they are loud and generate a lot of heat. Living in Singapore with 30+ C temperatures (90F) means cooling is an issue. VM for home environments generally don't use a lot o

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er, and the CPU on that was rarely above 1% - it just generated a lot of heat and noise for no reason. Cheers Ken From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Wednesday, 4 April 2012 1:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: recommendations on home server I have a 2950 at home (just as

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h a bit of scheduled scripting that checks the RAID drive for "predicted to fail" via WMI (if anyone wants to see such a script e-mail me privately). Carl From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 4:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE:

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ns.html OK, back to cleaning up. Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com<http://www.carlwebster.com/> From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 3:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: recommendations on h

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t: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 4:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: recommendations on home server Big picture: For the same money, you can build from new desktop parts something that outperforms your example of an old server, and reduce your KWH hit as well. That makes it a win-win for

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Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 3:40 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: recommendations on home server Is fifty cents a day a reasonable investment in ones ongoing education? Just like buying a hybrid car, investing in a new more efficient machine rarely

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SP4, VTSP4 From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 4:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: recommendations on home server You can run your own Exchange server and not have to pay $6/mth for Office365. Two, or more, e-mail accounts on Office365 would

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com/> From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Subject: RE: recommendations on home server Is fifty cents a day a reasonable investment in ones ongoing education? Just like buying a hybrid car, investing in a new more efficient machine rarely makes good financial sense. ~ Finally, po

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32607 Office (352) 244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 3:35 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: recommendations on home server What's the definition of "pen

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A modern quad desktop with a couple 7200 rpm drives easily uses less than 100W when idle, so that would qualify for my definition of "pennies a day". Carl From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 12:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Sub

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(352) 244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 2:50 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: recommendations on home server I have two Dell Precision workstations that have 2

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[mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 1:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: recommendations on home server I have a few HP DL's which are not feasible, so I bought an ML150G6, quiet as hell, the downside is the ram is prohibitively expe

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nd br...@briandesmond.com w - 312.625.1438 | c - 312.731.3132 From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 11:57 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: recommendations on home server Electricity for a single low use server is pennies a day, the more drives you spi

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Goldoff To: "NT System Admin Issues" Date: 04/03/2012 02:14 PM Subject: Re: recommendations on home server to that end, there are some decent i5 and i7 based notebook computers that can be used for VM hosting, relatively quietly, relatively low heat, etc. For work I have

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Admin Issues Subject: Re: recommendations on home server Wow. I guess we will have to take our toys and go home now. I mean, I don't live in a mansion myself and the garage is not an option for placing a "real man's man' server" due to temperation considerations in the sum

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t: RE: recommendations on home server I have a 2950 at home (just as an example) and have never suffered any need to modify the electrical circuit. There are ways of isolating the noise but any fan is going to generate noise. Irritates women – I’ll have to keep that handy in case I need to get rid o

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artnership For Strong Families* > > *5950 NW 1st Place* > > *Gainesville, Fl 32607* > > *Office (352) 244-1610* > > *Cell (352) 215-6944* > > *MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP**4, VTSP4* > > ** ** > > *From:* Jonathan Link [mai

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bject: Re: recommendations on home server Those things are loud. I have discovered my wife gets irrate with one of those things on in the house. As I live in a part of California where temperatures get to 115 degrees F the garage isn't an option. Also some of those 'real' serv

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Admin Issues Subject: Re: recommendations on home server Those things are loud. I have discovered my wife gets irrate with one of those things on in the house. As I live in a part of California where temperatures get to 115 degrees F the garage isn't an option. Also some of those 'real

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1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 12:48 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: recommendations on home server It isn'

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VSP4, VTSP4 From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 12:18 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: recommendations on home server Wow, 8 cores for a home/lab server? That's a little extravagant, isn't it? 4 cores is fine for a handful of VMs

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re cheaper as well. Carl From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 9:13 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: recommendations on home server Strictly for home lab use: MB <http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-

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bject: RE: recommendations on home server Check out Jeff's post at http://www.expta.com/2012/01/blistering-fast-windows-server-parts.html Lots of overlap with what you mentioned. From: Jimmy Tran [mailto:jt...@teachtci.com] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 4:19 PM To: NT System Ad

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t-windows-server-parts.html > > ** ** > > Lots of overlap with what you mentioned. > > ** ** > > *From:* Jimmy Tran [mailto:jt...@teachtci.com] > *Sent:* Monday, April 02, 2012 4:19 PM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* recommendations on home server***

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On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 7:15 PM, Richard Stovall wrote: > Also, why limit yourself to ESXi.  Hyper-V server is free and works great on > a large variety of hardware. There's a free version of ESXi, too. (called ESXi Hypervisor, I believe). It won't do command line stuff, and a few other, not too

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"NT System Admin Issues" Date: 04/03/2012 09:24 AM Subject: RE: recommendations on home server Had a friend do this very thing recently and the mb/cpu combo he picked would not support hyperviser. From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Tuesday,

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Had a friend do this very thing recently and the mb/cpu combo he picked would not support hyperviser. From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 8:13 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: recommendations on home server Strictly for home lab

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Experience from working on your own home lab - Priceless From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 8:13 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: recommendations on home server Strictly for home lab use: MB http://www.tigerdirect.com

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e Company of America www.guardianlife.com From: "Jimmy Tran" To: "NT System Admin Issues" Date: 04/02/2012 06:26 PM Subject:recommendations on home server I’m in need of a decent home server to run ESX-I to run SBS, W7 and some other test VM’s. My budget is preferabl

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To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: recommendations on home server I have 6 running on a HyperV host with only a mirrored array (RAID1, not 10), and the performance is fine. Yes, one of them is Exchange 2010. And only have 16GB on this host. The biggest key is RAM. If you have to

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What are the specs of your machine if you don't mind me asking? From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 7:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: recommendations on home server I have 6 running on a HyperV host with only a mirrored array (

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24x7, then get a decent case, with fans etc. designed for 24x7 usage. Cheers Ken From: Jimmy Tran [mailto:jt...@teachtci.com] Sent: Tuesday, 3 April 2012 8:01 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: recommendations on home server So it sounds like a regular pc built up with good amount of ram

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That is a great point. I'll have to consider the growth for the next few years. From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 6:02 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: recommendations on home server 1) that is a completely different re

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int server. > > > ** ** > > *From:* Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com 'cvml', 'webs...@carlwebster.com');>] > *Sent:* Monday, April 02, 2012 5:12 PM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: recommendations on home server > > ** ** > >

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tup for the first server > of a small business with 6 users? Will be using SBS, file and print server. > > > ** ** > > *From:* Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] > *Sent:* Monday, April 02, 2012 5:12 PM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE:

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ct: RE: recommendations on home server So it sounds like a regular pc built up with good amount of ram and multiple spindles will do the trick with a dual core i5 or i7? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VI

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Sounds like a plan. Thanks for your inputs! From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 5:12 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: recommendations on home server I would go quad-core myself. Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology

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I would go quad-core myself. Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com<http://www.carlwebster.com/> From: Jimmy Tran [mailto:jt...@teachtci.com] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 7:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: recommendations o

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So it sounds like a regular pc built up with good amount of ram and multiple spindles will do the trick with a dual core i5 or i7? From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 4:51 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: recommendations on home server

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To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: recommendations on home server Funny. For what I presume his purposes are (home lab, learning, testing, etc.), I would recommend a bunch of RAM and to not worry too much about disk I/O, RAID or CPU power. A regular PC with 12GB or 16GB RAM, an i5 or i7

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ct: Re: recommendations on home server Also, why limit yourself to ESXi. Hyper-V server is free and works great on a large variety of hardware. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscri

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nt: Monday, April 02, 2012 5:15 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: recommendations on home server Funny. For what I presume his purposes are (home lab, learning, testing, etc.), I would recommend a bunch of RAM and to not worry too much about disk I/O, RAID or CPU power. A regular PC wi

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ostly one place, thats where. From: Jimmy Tran [jt...@teachtci.com] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 4:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: recommendations on home server I’m in need of a decent home server to run ESX-I to run SBS, W7 and some other test VM’s. My b

recommendations on home server

I'm in need of a decent home server to run ESX-I to run SBS, W7 and some other test VM's. My budget is preferably around $500-$1k. Looking for lots of processing power but low powered (if possible), RAID on the drives, decent amount of ram. Don't know where to startcan someone recommend some