#ooo-dev IRC channel registration

Hi, For the record, I registered #ooo-dev channel ( server : irc.freenode.net ), and sent the password to Greg Stein. Just in case, I either set some flags (guard, secure, topic) "on". If this channel is really unneeded, just tell me, and I'll drop it. Thanks, Eric -- qɔᴉɹə Education Pro

Re: Wiki for the project - wiki.services.openoffice.org provenance

I was more concerned by the statement just beneath the broad copyright notice: "Sections or single pages of this wiki are covered by certain licenses. If a licence notice is displayed at a given wiki page, you may use the content of this page according to the license. In case you are contributing

Re: Podling website

hehehe... we've got way more options, before we need to turn to Alfresco :-P On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 00:41, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > An Aside: > > The Libre Office documentation team is using Alfresco.  Not sure they are > doing anything beyond using the document-management features, although

Re: [discuss] remove of binfilter module

Le 14 juin 11 à 23:20, Christian Lippka a écrit : Hi all devs, Hi Christian, I know we all wait for the code and the missing contributions from Oracle. But no reason to plan ahead. One think I like to see is the removal of the binfilter module after the code has been contributed.

Re: Wiki for the project - wiki.services.openoffice.org provenance

Agreed where Oracle has the exclusive copyright. My only concern is that those other-license pages might not be under Oracle copyright and we will need to find out. As I mentioned in the reply to Thorsten's mail, according to the copyright page, Oracle co-owns the copyright to all wiki content,

Re: Wiki for the project - wiki.services.openoffice.org provenance

Hi Thorsten, um, I think the point made here is that certain content is *not* copyright-shared with Oracle, and thus cannot be (easily) relicensed? The point was about licenses and not copyright. The mentioned wiki Copyright page says "Copyright 1999, 2010 by the contributing authors and

RE: Podling website

An Aside: The Libre Office documentation team is using Alfresco. Not sure they are doing anything beyond using the document-management features, although there is web content management there too. Jean Hollis Weber has direct experience that might be useful. - Dennis -Original Message

Re: External dependencies (was Re: [discuss] remove of binfilter module)

On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 21:50, Pedro Giffuni wrote: >... > But some of that stuff is actually bloatware. I think libwpd, libwps > and libwpg are basically in the same boat as binfilter: the > functionality shall me made optional as external modules in the By moving these importers over to *option

Re: Podling website

On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 3:11 AM, Leif Hedstrom wrote: > On 06/14/2011 06:40 PM, Greg Stein wrote: > >> Anakia is "so last decade" technology and has some requirements >> for everybody that wants to use it (eg. java :-) >> >> If the new CMS can be used, then I'd recommend going with that. It >

Re: Podling website

On 06/14/2011 06:40 PM, Greg Stein wrote: Anakia is "so last decade" technology and has some requirements for everybody that wants to use it (eg. java :-) If the new CMS can be used, then I'd recommend going with that. It would be nice to get the community working with that today, as it shou

External dependencies (was Re: [discuss] remove of binfilter module)

On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 00:58:48 +0200, Kai Ahrens wrote: Hi Andrea, Am 15.06.2011 00:40, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: ... Even though I highly trust the developers when they say that binfilter is unmanageable, I share these concerns. It would be best to package binfilter as an extension if feasible

Re: Podling website

I'm including some more links I've found about the CMS. On Jun 14, 2011, at 5:40 PM, Greg Stein wrote: > Anakia is "so last decade" technology and has some requirements > for everybody that wants to use it (eg. java :-) http://www.apache.org/dev/cms.html http://www.apache.org/dev/cms.html#a

Re: Podling website

Anakia is "so last decade" technology and has some requirements for everybody that wants to use it (eg. java :-) If the new CMS can be used, then I'd recommend going with that. It would be nice to get the community working with that today, as it should be a good tool to use in the long-term. (

Podling website

Our website link is: http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/ Astute observers may notice that nothing is there. I'd like to get a basic podling web site up there ASAP, so we can put out the "welcome mat", have a place to report status and accomplishments, list committers, etc. As we get an i

Re: Where does Microsoft Office support live? [Was Re: [discuss] remove of binfilter module]

Hi Dave, Am 15.06.2011 01:11, schrieb Dave Fisher: > > On Jun 14, 2011, at 4:04 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > >> Carl Marcum wrote: >>> Would this include the MS xls, doc, formats? >> >> No. We are talking about ancient formats used only by StarOffice and >> early versions of OpenOffice.org. >> >

Re: [discuss] remove of binfilter module

On 06/14/2011 05:20 PM, Christian Lippka wrote: Hi all devs, I know we all wait for the code and the missing contributions from Oracle. But no reason to plan ahead. One think I like to see is the removal of the binfilter module after the code has been contributed. Reasoning The binfilter modul

Re: [discuss] remove of binfilter module

Am 15.06.11 00:58, schrieb Kai Ahrens: Hi Andrea, Am 15.06.2011 00:40, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Raphael Bircher wrote: I'm not sure if the Users are so happy with it. LibO had the same discussion same month ago, with the result uf user protests. ... we have to provide a extension as minimum.

RE: Wiki for the project - wiki.services.openoffice.org provenance

I was more concerned by the statement just beneath the broad copyright notice: "Sections or single pages of this wiki are covered by certain licenses. If a licence notice is displayed at a given wiki page, you may use the content of this page according to the license. In case you are contributin

Where does Microsoft Office support live? [Was Re: [discuss] remove of binfilter module]

On Jun 14, 2011, at 4:04 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > Carl Marcum wrote: >> Would this include the MS xls, doc, formats? > > No. We are talking about ancient formats used only by StarOffice and > early versions of OpenOffice.org. > > The import/export of any Microsoft Office formats won't be af

Re: Subversion & Git (was: Proposed short term goals)

On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 18:51, Simon Phipps wrote: >... >> It is not a question of benefit of the doubt.  Anybody who wants to >> make a difference is welcome to participate.  The operative word, >> however, is "participate". > > Help me understand here, Sam. Are you asserting that you do not cons

RE: [discuss] remove of binfilter module

It strikes me that it is better to refactor and have the binfilters be independently pluggable without the code dependency issue you mention. That seemed better when I saw it discussed for LibreOffice as well. My concern is from my background in document management systems. There may be condi

RE: Wiki for the project - wiki.services.openoffice.org provenance

Agreed where Oracle has the exclusive copyright. My only concern is that those other-license pages might not be under Oracle copyright and we will need to find out. I don't know the state of affairs, and was only raising a caution flag -- another matter to check into. - Dennis PS: I am work

Re: [discuss] remove of binfilter module

Carl Marcum wrote: > Would this include the MS xls, doc, formats? No. We are talking about ancient formats used only by StarOffice and early versions of OpenOffice.org. The import/export of any Microsoft Office formats won't be affected by the proposed change. Regards, Andrea.

Re: [discuss] remove of binfilter module

Hi Christian, On 06/14/2011 05:20 PM, Christian Lippka wrote: Reasoning The binfilter module is a huge set of code duplicated from all application modules and various high level modules. It's main purpose is to implement load and store of pre xml binary document formats from the StarOffice era

Re: [discuss] remove of binfilter module

Hi Andrea, Am 15.06.2011 00:40, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: > Raphael Bircher wrote: >> I'm not sure if the Users are so happy with it. LibO had the same >> discussion same month ago, with the result uf user protests. ... >> we have to provide a extension as minimum. > > Even though I highly trust

Re: Subversion & Git (was: Proposed short term goals)

Sam, help me learn the system here. On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 9:45 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > > Whether I said it poorly or not, any statement along the lines of > "some group needs this" without providing the resources to make it > happen is not going to make it happen. Greg has made clear that the

Re: Wiki for the project

On Jun 14, 2011, at 3:35 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > > On Jun 14, 2011, at 3:08 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > >> Note the requirements here under "Using a wiki to Create Documentation". It >> looks like we need to restrict write access to that wiki to those who have >> returned iCLA's to Apache. >> >> h

Re: [discuss] remove of binfilter module

Am 15.06.11 00:15, schrieb Ivo Hinkelmann: Hi Christian, good idea to remove it, preferred the whole module. It saves us a lot of build time! Build time no matters in this case. No user will understand this argument. And the question is for wath we are here. To make a good product for end use

Re: [discuss] remove of binfilter module

Raphael Bircher wrote: > I'm not sure if the Users are so happy with it. LibO had the same > discussion same month ago, with the result uf user protests. ... > we have to provide a extension as minimum. Even though I highly trust the developers when they say that binfilter is unmanageable, I shar

Re: Wiki for the project

On Jun 14, 2011, at 3:08 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > Note the requirements here under "Using a wiki to Create Documentation". It > looks like we need to restrict write access to that wiki to those who have > returned iCLA's to Apache. > > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html > > I wonder if

Re: [discuss] remove of binfilter module

On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 17:20, Christian Lippka wrote: >... > Proposal > > I suggest to remove the binfilter module after the code has been provided > under the AL. > Therefore we have it inside the SVN and could re activate it later. > Preferable as a separate > extension. I'm unfamiliar with OO

Re: Wiki for the project

On 14/06/2011 23:08, Rob Weir wrote: Note the requirements here under "Using a wiki to Create Documentation". It looks like we need to restrict write access to that wiki to those who have returned iCLA's to Apache. This is correct if you intend for the wiki content to be made available via yo

Re: [discuss] remove of binfilter module

Hi Christian, good idea to remove it, preferred the whole module. It saves us a lot of build time! Cheers, Ivo On 14.06.2011 23:20, Christian Lippka wrote: Hi all devs, I know we all wait for the code and the missing contributions from Oracle. But no reason to plan ahead. One think I like

Re: [discuss] remove of binfilter module

Raphael Bircher wrote: Hi at all I'm not sure if the Users are so happy with it. LibO had the same discussion same month ago, with the result uf user protests. Switch back to a older OOo Version is not realy a option, because it's not easy to install two different OpenOffice.org on one mashine.

Re: Wiki for the project - wiki.services.openoffice.org provenance

Frank Peters wrote: > >um, I think the point made here is that certain content is *not* > >copyright-shared with Oracle, and thus cannot be (easily) > >relicensed? > > The point was about licenses and not copyright. > > The mentioned wiki Copyright page says > "Copyright 1999, 2010 by the contr

Re: Wiki for the project

On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 6:04 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > > > (A) ooo-user - the wiki for users that includes the ability for the whole > OOo community at large to contribute to documentation. > > It is that part that I'm having trouble reconciling with the CLA requirement stated here for Apache wiki

Re: [discuss] remove of binfilter module

Hi Raphael, Am 15.06.2011 00:01, schrieb Raphael Bircher: > Hi at all > > I'm not sure if the Users are so happy with it. LibO had the same > discussion same month ago, with the result uf user protests. Switch back > to a older OOo Version is not realy a option, because it's not easy to > install

Re: Wiki for the project

Note the requirements here under "Using a wiki to Create Documentation". It looks like we need to restrict write access to that wiki to those who have returned iCLA's to Apache. http://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html I wonder if this becomes easier if we segregate the documentation onto i

Re: Wiki for the project

On Jun 14, 2011, at 2:50 PM, Simon Brouwer wrote: > Op 14-6-2011 22:46, Dave Fisher schreef: I prefer not to mix developer/project-facing material and user-facing material on the same wiki, because it is difficult enough to maintain a consistent voice for the user-facing material.

Re: [discuss] remove of binfilter module

Hi at all I'm not sure if the Users are so happy with it. LibO had the same discussion same month ago, with the result uf user protests. Switch back to a older OOo Version is not realy a option, because it's not easy to install two different OpenOffice.org on one mashine. If we will do so, w

Re: Wiki for the project

>> If we want to have different groups of users with update rights we >> should definitely have two wikis. >> >> See https://cwiki.apache.org/CWIKI/ for the instructions regarding >> confluence. >> >> We could start with the following confluence wiki spaces: >> >> (1) ooo-dev - for developer fac

Re: Wiki for the project

Op 14-6-2011 22:46, Dave Fisher schreef: I prefer not to mix developer/project-facing material and user-facing material on the same wiki, because it is difficult enough to maintain a consistent voice for the user-facing material. Also, users should be able to easily subscribe to and make additio

Re: [discuss] remove of binfilter module

Moin Christian, in case we had the code in the repository, I would be glad to remove it. :-) Means: +1. Regards, Mathias On 14.06.2011 23:20, Christian Lippka wrote: Hi all devs, I know we all wait for the code and the missing contributions from Oracle. But no reason to plan ahead. One think

Re: Wiki for the project - wiki.services.openoffice.org provenance

Am 14.06.2011 23:31, schrieb Thorsten Behrens: Frank Peters wrote: What caught my eye was the statement that some material was under special licensing and you'd have to notice that on an individual-page basis. That is indeed the case and the licensing situation on the wiki has traditionally be

Re: [discuss] remove of binfilter module

Hi Christian et al., Am 14.06.2011 23:20, schrieb Christian Lippka: > I know we all wait for the code and the missing contributions from Oracle. > But no reason to plan ahead. > One think I like to see is the removal of the binfilter module after the > code has been contributed. +1 > Caveats >

Re: Wiki for the project - wiki.services.openoffice.org provenance

Frank Peters wrote: > >What caught my eye was the statement that some material was under > >special licensing and you'd have to notice that on an individual-page > >basis. > > That is indeed the case and the licensing situation on the > wiki has traditionally been awkward. But couldn't Oracle > re

Re: Wiki for the project

If we want to have different groups of users with update rights we should definitely have two wikis. See https://cwiki.apache.org/CWIKI/ for the instructions regarding confluence. We could start with the following confluence wiki spaces: (1) ooo-dev - for developer facing documentation. (2) oo

[discuss] remove of binfilter module

Hi all devs, I know we all wait for the code and the missing contributions from Oracle. But no reason to plan ahead. One think I like to see is the removal of the binfilter module after the code has been contributed. Reasoning The binfilter module is a huge set of code duplicated from all a

Re: IRC Channel?

On 14/06/2011 19:47, Jim Jagielski wrote: On Jun 14, 2011, at 2:04 PM, Mathias Bauer wrote: On 14.06.2011 19:49, Rob Weir wrote: OK. If Apache has no naming requirement, like #apache-incubator-ooo or something, then the simplest thing might be to use the existing OOo channels, which are desc

Decision making at the ASF

How do we make decisions in ASF projects? The short answer is copied below, if you want to learn more about the specific processes mentioned here then you'll find links to more info at [1] (note there are also some useful links for new committers at the bottom of that page): Decisions in Apa

Re: Subversion & Git (was: Proposed short term goals)

On 14.06.2011 22:45, Sam Ruby wrote: Whether I said it poorly or not, any statement along the lines of "some group needs this" without providing the resources to make it happen is not going to make it happen. That statement is true no matter what the group is, including groups that are *within*

Re: Wiki for the project

>> I prefer not to mix developer/project-facing material and user-facing >> material on the same wiki, because it is difficult enough to maintain >> a consistent voice for the user-facing material. Also, users should >> be able to easily subscribe to and make additions to the >> user-oriented wiki

Re: Subversion & Git (was: Proposed short term goals)

On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 4:30 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: > On 14/06/2011 18:18, Simon Phipps wrote: > My main reason for being here is to have "a foot in both camps" and make sure that there's someone to bring in TDF people whenever there's scope >>> to collaborate and draw the overall

Re: JIRA vs bugzilla (was Re: Wiki, SVN, other resources - Questions)

On Jun 14, 2011, at 1:22 PM, Phillip Rhodes wrote: > On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: > >> On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 12:53:27 -0400, Greg Stein wrote: >> ... >> >>> FWIW, I understand JIRA has a tool to import bugzilla databases. >>> >>> And we could align the bug

Re: Subversion & Git (was: Proposed short term goals)

On 14/06/2011 18:18, Simon Phipps wrote: My main reason for being here is to have "a foot in both camps" and make sure that there's someone to bring in TDF people whenever there's scope to collaborate and draw the overall OOo community together. I'll simply note that those people with a "f

Re: Subversion & Git (was: Proposed short term goals)

On 14/06/2011 17:33, Mathias Bauer wrote: Starting with svn won't set anything in stone. Perhaps we should think about our usage of svn now so that at least a later conversion to git will be easy and without losses. We should be able to do that. This attitude fits very well to the ASF way of d

Re: JIRA vs bugzilla (was Re: Wiki, SVN, other resources - Questions)

On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: > On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 12:53:27 -0400, Greg Stein wrote: > ... > >> >>> FWIW, I understand JIRA has a tool to import bugzilla databases. >>> >> >> And we could align the bug numbers, if JIRA is chosen. >> >> > Anything but GNATS :). > > >> (my

JIRA vs bugzilla (was Re: Wiki, SVN, other resources - Questions)

On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 12:53:27 -0400, Greg Stein wrote: ... FWIW, I understand JIRA has a tool to import bugzilla databases. And we could align the bug numbers, if JIRA is chosen. Anything but GNATS :). (my own opinion is that all bug trackers suck except for Google Code's, but I'm biase

Re: Subversion & Git (was: Proposed short term goals)

On 14/06/2011 17:05, Simon Phipps wrote: I'm sorry, I don't understand your point. See my reply to Gregs mail in this thread a moment ago. I think Sam is saying the same thing. Ross

Re: Subversion & Git (was: Proposed short term goals)

On 14/06/2011 16:53, Greg Stein wrote: On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 11:47, Simon Phipps wrote: On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Greg Stein wrote: I know that many people also have concerns with potential community issues. But that is all a discussion for a later time. Not here and now. With re

Re: Wiki for the project - wiki.services.openoffice.org provenance

What caught my eye was the statement that some material was under special licensing and you'd have to notice that on an individual-page basis. That is indeed the case and the licensing situation on the wiki has traditionally been awkward. But couldn't Oracle remedy this by (as copyright holder

Re: Wiki for the project

I prefer not to mix developer/project-facing material and user-facing material on the same wiki, because it is difficult enough to maintain a consistent voice for the user-facing material. Also, users should be able to easily subscribe to and make additions to the user-oriented wiki without conte

Incubator documentation

Hey all, If you haven't done it already, then I would encourage you to start reading here: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/index.html I also highly encourage reading about the Foundation itself. The above page has some links in the Notes section, talking about how the Foundation works and ge

Re: Wiki, SVN, other resources

On 14/06/2011 17:34, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Hi guys; I am a freeBSD user/contributor and I hope I will be able to contribute to OOo too. For now do excuse me if I am not very aware of the Apache processes/procedures. That's what the incubator is for. Out goal (as mentors) is to get enough peopl

RE: Wiki for the project

Sorry, clumsy wording on my part. I prefer not to mix developer/project-facing material and user-facing material on the same wiki, because it is difficult enough to maintain a consistent voice for the user-facing material. Also, users should be able to easily subscribe to and make additions to

RE: Wiki for the project

+1 -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:apa...@robweir.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 10:35 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Wiki for the project On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton < dennis.hamil...@acm.org> wrote: > It strikes me that there are tw

RE: Wiki for the project - wiki.services.openoffice.org provenance

What caught my eye was the statement that some material was under special licensing and you'd have to notice that on an individual-page basis. -Original Message- From: Greg Stein [mailto:gst...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 10:51 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Wi

Re: Wiki, SVN, other resources

On 14/06/2011 17:06, Greg Stein wrote: Lets create Jira issues, your argument is beating Joe may end up grabbing all of them. But the Jira issue let's him take a break, deferring to others to pick up the ticket. And perhaps even more importantly it means we are following the normal process

Re: Opinions (was: Subversion - Seeding incubator/openofficeorg/ please)

Op 14-6-2011 19:06, IngridvdM schreef: Am 14.06.2011 18:57, schrieb Greg Stein: I wanted to raise this query to the surface for input: the name in the repository. This is easily changed, so it's really just about ongoing perception. * I used "ooo" to match the mailing list names and to keep URL

Re: Opinions (was: Subversion - Seeding incubator/openofficeorg/ please)

* I used "ooo" to match the mailing list names and to keep URLs short * Christian used "openofficeorg" to match some podling references Do people have any preference? I'll rejigger the directories after a reasonably clear consensus. I can see both approaches. +1 ooo less typing Carl

Re: IRC Channel?

On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 1:49 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > > I'll take your hint and update this on the incubator site, once I finish > reading the incubator doc. Prediction: you will have problems. You will find the process to be ugly. If you have questions, don't hesitate to ask. Generally what you

Re: IRC Channel?

On Jun 14, 2011, at 2:04 PM, Mathias Bauer wrote: > On 14.06.2011 19:49, Rob Weir wrote: >> OK. If Apache has no naming requirement, like #apache-incubator-ooo or >> something, then the simplest thing might be to use the existing OOo >> channels, which are described here: >> >> http://wiki.serv

Introduction

Let me also introduce myself to this illustrious circle. My name is Frank Peters (I go by the name of fpe on OOo) and I have been involved in StarOffice and OpenOffice.org documentation efforts since 2001. Back in 2002, I have been leading the efforts to migrate the help content from an undocume

Re: Opinions (was: Subversion - Seeding incubator/openofficeorg/ please)

Greg Stein wrote: I wanted to raise this query to the surface for input: the name in the repository. This is easily changed, so it's really just about ongoing perception. * I used "ooo" to match the mailing list names and to keep URLs short * Christian used "openofficeorg" to match some podling

Re: Wiki for the project - wiki.services.openoffice.org provenance

Am 14.06.2011 19:50, schrieb Greg Stein: On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 13:37, Frank Peters wrote: Am 14.06.2011 18:05, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton: There are two pages that caught my attention immediately on visiting http://wiki.services.openoffice.org. There is this one:

Re: IRC Channel?

On 14.06.2011 19:49, Rob Weir wrote: OK. If Apache has no naming requirement, like #apache-incubator-ooo or something, then the simplest thing might be to use the existing OOo channels, which are described here: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/IRC_Communication e.g., #dev.openoffice.o

Re: Subversion & Git (was: Proposed short term goals)

On 06/14/2011 05:22 PM, Greg Stein wrote: On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 11:08, Simon Phipps wrote: On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: Do you see any serious problems if the code will go into svn in the first step (which

Re: IRC Channel?

On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 13:46, Christian Lippka wrote: > Am 14.06.2011 19:36, schrieb Rob Weir: >> >> Is there a convention among Apache projects or podlings for where their >> have >> their IRC channels and what they are named > > We already have #dev.openoffice.org on freenet. There are also som

Re: IRC Channel?

Am 14.06.2011 19:36, schrieb Rob Weir: Is there a convention among Apache projects or podlings for where their have their IRC channels and what they are named We already have #dev.openoffice.org on freenet. There are also some tdf developers lurking around. Christian.

Re: Wiki for the project - wiki.services.openoffice.org provenance

On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 13:37, Frank Peters wrote: > Am 14.06.2011 18:05, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton: >> >> There are two pages that caught my attention immediately on visiting >> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org. >> >> There is this one: >>

Re: IRC Channel?

OK. If Apache has no naming requirement, like #apache-incubator-ooo or something, then the simplest thing might be to use the existing OOo channels, which are described here: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/IRC_Communication e.g., #dev.openoffice.org on freenode I'll take your hint an

Re: IRC Channel?

Hmm. #ooo has been registered by somebody. If the channel is truly idle, then we may be able to "take it back". #ooo-dev is unregistered. On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 13:47, Greg Stein wrote: > Freenode: we have cross-admins, cloaks for Apache users, etc. > > No particular naming. Subversion uses #svn

Re: Wiki for the project

Dennis, Um, so where would that and other thoughts be on-topic? I have many thoughts about on-/off-line help bridging too. Is this the ooo-issues list. (I really must catch up on my reading of the groundrules here.) I take it that the on-line help is under Oracle copyright and can be/has bee

Re: IRC Channel?

Freenode: we have cross-admins, cloaks for Apache users, etc. No particular naming. Subversion uses #svn and #svn-dev. I definitely suggest we plan on two, even if the "user" channel is idle right now. I suggest #ooo and #ooo-dev... they appear to be open. Cheers, -g On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 13:

Re: IRC Channel?

On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > Is there a convention among Apache projects or podlings for where their have > their IRC channels and what they are named? Here's where you can find a number of examples: http://www.google.com/search?sitesearch=incubator.apache.org&q=irc If you

Re: Wiki for the project - wiki.services.openoffice.org provenance

Am 14.06.2011 18:05, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton: There are two pages that caught my attention immediately on visiting http://wiki.services.openoffice.org. There is this one: . And that leads to this interesting one:

Re: Wiki for the project

There is a confluence install available at https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/ Also keep in mind we recently created a markdown-based custom CMS for projects to use for creating and maintaining websites. Markdown is basically a standardized wiki syntax and integrates well with django templates.

IRC Channel?

Is there a convention among Apache projects or podlings for where their have their IRC channels and what they are named? -Rob

Re: Wiki for the project

On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton < dennis.hamil...@acm.org> wrote: > It strikes me that there are two different wikis being talked about right > now. > > At least. > One is one that we need in the podling for incubation activities. > > That was what I was thinking. A wiki whe

Re: Wiki for the project

> I think this should be split into two phases. The first phase is getting our > infrastructure for the new project going. > This will allow us to coordinate our current activities. Then we plan and > implement the migration of OOo content.(using the wiki) > I think there will be a combination

Re: Subversion history (was: Wiki, SVN, other resources)

On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 13:17, Mathias Bauer wrote: > On 14.06.2011 19:04, Greg Stein wrote: >... >> Right now, I believe our biggest impediment to an import is the list >> of "which files?". We know there are gaps... we need to figure out >> which files are necessary to fill those gaps, then requ

Re: Subversion & Git (was: Proposed short term goals)

On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Greg Stein wrote: > On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 11:28, Mathias Bauer > wrote: > > - start with a git repo from the beginning > > As stated elsewhere, this is not available right now. There are the > technical issues, and I know that many people also have concerns wit

RE: Wiki for the project

+1 -Original Message- From: Andrew Rist [mailto:andrew.r...@oracle.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 10:17 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Wiki for the project I think this should be split into two phases. The first phase is getting our infrastructure for the new project

Re: Subversion & Git (was: Proposed short term goals)

On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 6:22 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > > > From: Simon Phipps > > No URL, sorry, I still haven't found the archives. > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-dev/ > > (syncing happens on an hourly basis). > Great, thanks! (I'd been checking that URL regularl

RE: Wiki for the project

Um, so where would that and other thoughts be on-topic? I have many thoughts about on-/off-line help bridging too. Is this the ooo-issues list. (I really must catch up on my reading of the groundrules here.) I take it that the on-line help is under Oracle copyright and can be/has been licens

Re: Opinions

Hi all, the longer one is the official and formal name and the shorter one the perfect acronym since a very long time. And as Phillip states correct it saves typing always when you have to enter an URL to the repo. +1 for ooo Marcus Am 06/14/2011 07:01 PM, schrieb Phillip Rhodes: On Tue,

Re: Subversion & Git (was: Proposed short term goals)

- Original Message > From: Simon Phipps > To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org > Sent: Tue, June 14, 2011 1:18:30 PM > Subject: Re: Subversion & Git (was: Proposed short term goals) > > On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 6:09 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Simon Phipp

Re: Opinions (was: Subversion - Seeding incubator/openofficeorg/ please)

On 14.06.2011 18:57, Greg Stein wrote: I wanted to raise this query to the surface for input: the name in the repository. This is easily changed, so it's really just about ongoing perception. * I used "ooo" to match the mailing list names and to keep URLs short * Christian used "openofficeorg" t

Re: Subversion & Git (was: Proposed short term goals)

On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 6:09 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Simon Phipps wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Mathias Bauer >wrote: > > > >> if you talk about "community concerns", you should be more specific > about > >> which parts of the community are involved

Re: Subversion history (was: Wiki, SVN, other resources)

Hi Greg, On 14.06.2011 19:04, Greg Stein wrote: On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 12:34, Pedro Giffuni wrote: ... One doubt I have is whether the historic metadata from the previous OOo Hg/bugzilla will also be imported. I would guess in the SVN repository we want to start from scratch with the donated

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