Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for August 2011 (ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org)

2011-08-08 Thread Ross Gardler
On 8 August 2011 01:10, Rob Weir apa...@robweir.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote: High Graham, I brought over the July 2011 report and updated it as well as I could: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/August2011. ... Modest growth in the

Re: Access to wiki

2011-08-08 Thread Ross Gardler
On 7 August 2011 21:37, Eike Rathke o...@erack.de wrote: Hi Ross, On Sunday, 2011-08-07 21:26:29 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote: On 7 August 2011 16:55, Eike Rathke o...@erack.de wrote: On Sunday, 2011-08-07 11:27:26 -0400, Rob Weir wrote: ... 1) How do we ensure that contributions are made

Re: Access to wiki

2011-08-08 Thread Ross Gardler
On 7 August 2011 22:07, Rob Weir apa...@robweir.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 4:26 PM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: On 7 August 2011 16:55, Eike Rathke o...@erack.de wrote: On Sunday, 2011-08-07 11:27:26 -0400, Rob Weir wrote: ... 1) How do we ensure that

Re: Request for comments: Community Wiki Services web page.

2011-08-08 Thread Terry Ellison
On 07/08/11 23:38, Terry Ellison wrote: I've just finished a 1st cut of outstanding tasks and issues for the Wiki. See https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Community+Wiki+Services Comments gratefully received on this DL and/or on the page itself. Thanks Terry snip -- a

Re: Request for comments: Community Wiki Services web page.

2011-08-08 Thread TerryE
On this type of discussion, it's easier for everyone if we stand on-topic so that we can structure threads On 08/08/11 00:53, Rob Weir wrote: At steps 10 and 12, you have branding changes We should list exactly what that entails, especially since we'll want the reapplication step 12 to be

Re: Request for comments: Community Wiki Services web page.

2011-08-08 Thread Terry Ellison
On 08/08/11 01:41, TJ Frazier wrote: snip Methinks I see a small change in the qualifications. As one such user (sysop), I gladly volunteer to continue in that role. I can submit an iCLA, if that would help (it's on my WIGATI list). Since I rarely, if ever, make any substantial

Re: Request for comments: Community Wiki Services web page.

2011-08-08 Thread Terry Ellison
On 08/08/11 02:23, Pedro F. Giffuni wrote: +1 to move to PostgreSQL. It's more work but it's also more portable than the other option that I would have suggested: ZFS. Picking up Wolf and Pedro's point. We used to use PostgreSQL to run the forums and I found it an excellent product. (We

Re: Request for comments: Community Wiki Services web page.

2011-08-08 Thread TJ Frazier
On 8/8/2011 05:46, Terry Ellison wrote: On 08/08/11 01:41, TJ Frazier wrote: snip Methinks I see a small change in the qualifications. As one such user (sysop), I gladly volunteer to continue in that role. I can submit an iCLA, if that would help (it's on my WIGATI list). Since I rarely, if

Re: Request for comments: Community Wiki Services web page.

2011-08-08 Thread Wolf Halton
On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 6:33 AM, Terry Ellison te...@ellisons.org.uk wrote: On 08/08/11 02:23, Pedro F. Giffuni wrote: +1 to move to PostgreSQL. It's more work but it's also more portable than the other option that I would have suggested: ZFS. Picking up Wolf and Pedro's point. We used to

Re: Request for comments: Community Wiki Services web page.

2011-08-08 Thread Wolf Halton
On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 6:48 AM, TJ Frazier tjfraz...@cfl.rr.com wrote: On 8/8/2011 05:46, Terry Ellison wrote: On 08/08/11 01:41, TJ Frazier wrote: snip Methinks I see a small change in the qualifications. As one such user (sysop), I gladly volunteer to continue in that role. I can submit

[Proposal]

2011-08-08 Thread Wolf Halton
I would like to propose breaking out a couple more mailing lists web develop - either all languages or just en, which appears to be very busy. web content - This would be where the conversations about administering the wiki daily operations would go, and documentation of versions of OOo It would

Re: Request for comments: Community Wiki Services web page.

2011-08-08 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Terry Ellison wrote on Mon, Aug 08, 2011 at 10:22:13 +0100: On 07/08/11 23:38, Terry Ellison wrote: I've just finished a 1st cut of outstanding tasks and issues for the Wiki. See https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Community+Wiki+Services Comments gratefully received

Re: [Proposal]

2011-08-08 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 7:00 AM, Wolf Halton wolf.hal...@gmail.com wrote: I would like to propose breaking out a couple more mailing lists web develop - either all languages or just en, which appears to be very busy. What are examples of some threads that would belong in web develop? Have we

Re: Request for comments: Community Wiki Services web page.

2011-08-08 Thread Terry Ellison
On 08/08/11 12:44, Daniel Shahaf wrote: snip * Migration of the infrastructure service. What drives this is if Oracle decides, say, that the current hardware is being turned off on the XXth of Aug, then we need to move the service to a box in Apache.org. s/move the

Re: [Proposal]

2011-08-08 Thread Ross Gardler
On 8 August 2011 12:45, Rob Weir apa...@robweir.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 7:00 AM, Wolf Halton wolf.hal...@gmail.com wrote: I would like to propose breaking out a couple more mailing lists Be careful about splitting lists too early. I realise that traffic is very high right now but it

RE: Migrating the web forums at user.services.openoffice.org to Apache servers

2011-08-08 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
To avoid branding issues and the rules for incubators, I favor the simplified wording without Apache if that works. That is, Andy Brown's suggested OpenOffice.org and related products (assuming we are still talking about material accessed via *.openoffice.org and not *.apache.org) Pointing

Re: binfilter (was RE: OOO340 to svn)

2011-08-08 Thread Michael Stahl
On 06.08.2011 19:45, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: With regard to consumption versus production, I agree that it is easy to stop supporting production when no native consumers are likely to be available any longer and the OpenOffice.org document model evolves to support expanded functionality of

Re: [Proposal]

2011-08-08 Thread Raphael Bircher
Am 08.08.11 14:27, schrieb Ross Gardler: On 8 August 2011 12:45, Rob Weirapa...@robweir.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 7:00 AM, Wolf Haltonwolf.hal...@gmail.com wrote: I would like to propose breaking out a couple more mailing lists Be careful about splitting lists too early. I realise

Re: Migrating the web forums at user.services.openoffice.org to Apache servers

2011-08-08 Thread Shane Curcuru
A general comment on mailing list policy at Apache: On 8/6/2011 4:30 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 6:08 AM, Terry Ellisonte...@ellisons.org.uk wrote: On 05/08/11 08:10, eric b wrote: Le 5 août 11 à 03:12, Pedro Giffuni a écrit : ...snip... Historically and (possibly with

Re: [Proposal]

2011-08-08 Thread Simon Phipps
My experience of various communities over the last decade suggests Ross is exactly right here. Don't start new mailing lists until we've used the proposed list names as subject-line tags and measured the traffic using them. Once we know there is enough traffic under a specific tag, it's then

Re: Moving OOo web: results of fetch-all-web.sh

2011-08-08 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Kay, I was able to get HTML wrapped using the Apache CMS last night. I'm not ready to commit anything yet. I'll summarize where I am and possible next steps. In order to make progress the key was investigating the source for the {% %} template tagging. This is found here:

Re: Moving OOo web: results of fetch-all-web.sh

2011-08-08 Thread Kay Schenk
On 08/08/2011 08:29 AM, Dave Fisher wrote: Hi Kay, I was able to get HTML wrapped using the Apache CMS last night. I'm not ready to commit anything yet. I'll summarize where I am and possible next steps. In order to make progress the key was investigating the source for the {% %} template

Re: [Proposal]

2011-08-08 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 08/08/2011 05:23 PM, schrieb Simon Phipps: My experience of various communities over the last decade suggests Ross is exactly right here. Don't start new mailing lists until we've used the proposed list names as subject-line tags and measured the traffic using them. Once we know there is

Re: [Proposal] Mail Tags

2011-08-08 Thread Ross Gardler
On 8 August 2011 17:35, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote: I propose we establish a convention to insert proposed mailing list names into the subject of any message to this list that relates to a subject that could potentially require its own list long-term. From scanning the list I suggest

Re: Website Privacy Policy ( was: Migrating the web forums at user.services.openoffice.org to Apache servers )

2011-08-08 Thread drew
On Sat, 2011-08-06 at 16:02 -0400, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 12:54 PM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: On Thu, 2011-08-04 at 21:44 -0400, drew wrote: On Thu, 2011-08-04 at 18:01 -0700, Dave Fisher wrote: snip 5 - Currently the site references a Privacy Policy

Re: [downloads] OOo 3.3 can not be downloaded from OOo site

2011-08-08 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 08/08/2011 07:05 PM, schrieb Reizinger Zoltán: Hi all, I daily check the OOo Bugzilla for new bugs. Now found this, which claims that the download not happens: http://openoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=118391 I checked it, went to the download page and started to download 3.3 version

Re: [downloads] OOo 3.3 can not be downloaded from OOo site

2011-08-08 Thread Christoph Jopp
Am 08.08.2011 19:59, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 08/08/2011 07:05 PM, schrieb Reizinger Zoltán: Hi all, I daily check the OOo Bugzilla for new bugs. Now found this, which claims that the download not happens: http://openoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=118391 I checked it, went to the

Re: [downloads] OOo 3.3 can not be downloaded from OOo site

2011-08-08 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 08/08/2011 10:56 PM, schrieb Christoph Jopp: Am 08.08.2011 19:59, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 08/08/2011 07:05 PM, schrieb Reizinger Zoltán: Hi all, I daily check the OOo Bugzilla for new bugs. Now found this, which claims that the download not happens:

Re: [downloads] OOo 3.3 can not be downloaded from OOo site

2011-08-08 Thread Simon Phipps
2011/8/8 Christoph Jopp j...@gmx.de Am 08.08.2011 19:59, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 08/08/2011 07:05 PM, schrieb Reizinger Zoltán: Hi all, I daily check the OOo Bugzilla for new bugs. Now found this, which claims that the download not happens:

Re: [downloads] OOo 3.3 can not be downloaded from OOo site

2011-08-08 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 08/08/2011 11:33 PM, schrieb Simon Phipps: 2011/8/8 Christoph Joppj...@gmx.de Am 08.08.2011 19:59, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 08/08/2011 07:05 PM, schrieb Reizinger Zoltán: Hi all, I daily check the OOo Bugzilla for new bugs. Now found this, which claims that the download not happens:

Re: [downloads] OOo 3.3 can not be downloaded from OOo site

2011-08-08 Thread Simon Phipps
On 8 Aug 2011, at 22:45, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 08/08/2011 11:33 PM, schrieb Simon Phipps: 2011/8/8 Christoph Joppj...@gmx.de Am 08.08.2011 19:59, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 08/08/2011 07:05 PM, schrieb Reizinger Zoltán: Hi all, I daily check the OOo Bugzilla for new bugs. Now found this,

Re: [downloads] OOo 3.3 can not be downloaded from OOo site

2011-08-08 Thread Raphael Bircher
Am 08.08.11 23:51, schrieb Simon Phipps: On 8 Aug 2011, at 22:45, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 08/08/2011 11:33 PM, schrieb Simon Phipps: 2011/8/8 Christoph Joppj...@gmx.de Am 08.08.2011 19:59, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 08/08/2011 07:05 PM, schrieb Reizinger Zoltán: Hi all, I daily check the OOo

Re: [downloads] OOo 3.3 can not be downloaded from OOo site

2011-08-08 Thread Simon Phipps
On 8 Aug 2011, at 23:02, Andrew Rist wrote: On 8/8/2011 2:45 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 08/08/2011 11:33 PM, schrieb Simon Phipps: 2011/8/8 Christoph Joppj...@gmx.de Am 08.08.2011 19:59, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 08/08/2011 07:05 PM, schrieb Reizinger Zoltán: Hi all, I daily check the

Re: [downloads] OOo 3.3 can not be downloaded from OOo site

2011-08-08 Thread Christoph Jopp
I think I've found the error concerning the download page: If you have set your browsers preferred language to German and are using Linux, the download link leads you to an OOo 3.3.0 rpm that does not exist. Only 3.2.1 is available. So just the link is incorrect and now an error page is shown.

Re: [downloads] OOo 3.3 can not be downloaded from OOo site

2011-08-08 Thread Simon Phipps
On 8 Aug 2011, at 23:39, Christoph Jopp wrote: I think I've found the error concerning the download page: If you have set your browsers preferred language to German and are using Linux, the download link leads you to an OOo 3.3.0 rpm that does not exist. Only 3.2.1 is available. So just

Re: [downloads] OOo 3.3 can not be downloaded from OOo site

2011-08-08 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 6:45 PM, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote: On 8 Aug 2011, at 23:39, Christoph Jopp wrote: I think I've found the error concerning the download page: If you have set your browsers preferred language to German and are using Linux, the download link leads you to an

Re: Request for comments: Community Wiki Services web page.

2011-08-08 Thread Andrew Rist
On 8/8/2011 2:58 AM, Terry wrote: On 08/08/11 01:25, Dave Fisher wrote: On Aug 7, 2011, at 3:38 PM, Terry Ellison wrote: I've just finished a 1st cut of outstanding tasks and issues for the Wiki. See https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Community+Wiki+Services snip The

Re: Request for comments: Community Wiki Services web page.

2011-08-08 Thread Nóirín Plunkett
On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 3:59 AM, Rob Weir apa...@robweir.com wrote: I assume at some point we create additional lists, and maybe one will be an ooo-general or something.  I'd be happy at that point to only require subscription to the general list. Would that make more sense? For admins,

[www] OOo Website Conversion (was: Re: Moving OOo web: results of fetch-all-web.sh)

2011-08-08 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi - Progress. On Aug 8, 2011, at 8:38 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: On 08/08/2011 08:29 AM, Dave Fisher wrote: Hi Kay, I was able to get HTML wrapped using the Apache CMS last night. I'm not ready to commit anything yet. I'll summarize where I am and possible next steps. In order to make

OOo trademark/logo usage request

2011-08-08 Thread Peter Junge
Hi, I have received a trademark usage request from the BHV publishing house in Germany. BHV is frequently publishing a package called OpenOffice.org x.y für Ein- und Umsteiger, means OOo for beginners and people migrating from other suites (no idea what the English equivalent of Umsteiger

Re: [www] OOo Website Conversion

2011-08-08 Thread Andy Brown
Thanks for the work, Dave. Dave Fisher wrote: Hi - Progress. On Aug 8, 2011, at 8:38 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: On 08/08/2011 08:29 AM, Dave Fisher wrote: Hi Kay, I was able to get HTML wrapped using the Apache CMS last night. I'm not ready to commit anything yet. I'll summarize where I am

[Repo] SVN ETA? (was Re: Request for comments: Community Wiki Services web page.)

2011-08-08 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Hi; I appreciate the tough work that is being done to transfer the Wiki, forums, etc ... but I would've thought the greatest priority was the SVN repository. Any reassuring comment on this? Something like we are working on this but the script will still require a month to complete the conversion

[www] Color me Copyright-confused

2011-08-08 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I was nosing around in the web pages at http://incubator.apache.org/openoffice/www/ to understand exactly what is going on with addition of Copyright 2011 The Apache Software Foundation as a footer and the inclusion of the !-- Licensed to the Apache Software Foundation (ASF) under one or more

Re: [www] Color me Copyright-confused

2011-08-08 Thread drew
On Mon, 2011-08-08 at 21:47 -0700, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: I was nosing around in the web pages at http://incubator.apache.org/openoffice/www/ to understand exactly what is going on with addition of Copyright 2011 The Apache Software Foundation as a footer and the inclusion of the !--

Re: [www] Color me Copyright-confused

2011-08-08 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Dennis, I was nosing around in the web pages at http://incubator.apache.org/openoffice/www/ to understand exactly what is going on with addition of Copyright 2011 The Apache Software Foundation as a footer and the inclusion of the !-- Licensed to the Apache Software Foundation (ASF)