Re: Taking our own pulse: ZDNet on OpenOffice

2012-09-29 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote: This article provides a forward-looking account of opportunities for Apache OpenOffice work: http://www.zdnet.com/apache-openoffice-libreoffice-aim-for-office-2013-cloud-support-in-13-14-704975/ There is

Re: Call for comments: Webpage for Listing OpenOffice Consultants

2012-09-29 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Sep 29, 2012, at 2:25 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Rob Weir wrote: A technical solution could be to put the strings into their own XML file, so different localized versions could be used. These would be strings like

Re: Call for comments: Webpage for Listing OpenOffice Consultants

2012-09-29 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Sep 29, 2012, at 2:25 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Rob Weir wrote: A technical solution could be to put the strings into their own XML file, so

Re: What do we say about Binaries, Packagers and Distributors? [Was Re: Did we ever reach consensus on support for Windows 2000]

2012-09-29 Thread Rob Weir
, Kay Schenk wrote: On 09/16/2012 09:48 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Sep 16, 2012, at 11:38 PM, Keith N. McKenna keith.mcke...@comcast.net wrote: Rob Weir wrote: On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Keith N. McKenna keith.mcke...@comcast.net wrote: Greetings All; I was going through

Re: Call for comments: Webpage for Listing OpenOffice Consultants

2012-09-28 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 26/09/2012 Rob Weir wrote: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Draft+--+Apache+OpenOffice+Consultants+Directory I'm working on the XSLT script now. Looking good so far. Nice. From what I see

Re: Marketing and traveling expenses

2012-09-27 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 9:54 AM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: Hi I was asked about the use of funds regarding marketing events, speakers and such. I want to know how does Apache manage funds for this operations? Back in the OOo days, there was a marketing funds that came from

Re: [DISCUSS]: AOO 3.4.1 reflection and lessons learned

2012-09-27 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 7:24 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, AOO 3.4.1 was our second release and I would like to do some reflection of the past and especially the hot phase in the end where we tried to finalize the version. Things that were not so good and that can and

Re: Call for comments: Webpage for Listing OpenOffice Consultants

2012-09-27 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: see inline below... On 09/26/2012 02:25 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Wed, Sep

Re: Did we ever reach consensus on support for Windows 2000

2012-09-27 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Keith N. McKenna keith.mcke...@comcast.net wrote: Greetings All; I was going through FAQ's and other pages on the AOO (incubating) site and noticed that many still are showing that we support Windows 2000 as a baseline operating system. I though I remembered

News article integration with home page

2012-09-27 Thread Rob Weir
Kay has started a page on the wiki to list possible areas where we can improve the website: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=30737243 One of the ideas concerned the little news stories that we put on the home page. Since I think I'm the only one that has been

Re: Draft Blog Post: Use the Source, Luke

2012-09-26 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 3:02 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 25/09/2012 Rob Weir wrote: https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=use_the_source_luke It's good, as usual, but it would feel more complete with some specific call to action, like giving potential code

Re: LICENSE text in the user interface

2012-09-26 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 8:59 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Sep 26, 2012, at 5:30 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: Hi Joost, On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 09:28:41PM +0200, Joost Andrae wrote: Hi, a side note: IANAL, but in some countries legal texts have to be translated (eg.

Re: Some stats and observations on OpenOffice upgrades

2012-09-26 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 8:44 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 03:06:12PM -0400, Rob Weir wrote: I've been looking at the upgrade numbers, the downloads that are triggered from upgrade notifications in the OpenOffice client. Although we

Re: build svtools with debug

2012-09-26 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: From: Armin Le Grand ... Hi List, with current trunk I cannot build svtools with debug, e.g. cd svtools make clean make clean debug=t make -sr -j8 debug=t - Lots of unresolved externals from stl. Yes, I'm using stlport,

Re: [UX] [Call for review] Task Prioritization Survey Questions

2012-09-26 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 1:50 AM, Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All, I've captured a series of questions for inclusion in an upcoming AOO survey. The questions are intended to help us understand which features and capabilities are most frequently used in the editors.

Re: build svtools with debug

2012-09-26 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: From: Rob Weir robw...@apache.org ... On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: From: Armin Le Grand ... Hi List, with current trunk I cannot build svtools

[PROPOSAL] Reinvigorate extension authors community

2012-09-26 Thread Rob Weir
As I mentioned a couple of weeks ago, I'm shifting my focus more to the extended OpenOffice ecosystem rather than day-to-day release-cycle tasks. One of the things I'd like to push for is reinvigorating the application development community. In the legacy project we supported extensions authors

Re: build svtools with debug

2012-09-26 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 9/26/12 6:19 PM, Armin Le Grand wrote: On 26.09.2012 17:57, Regina Henschel wrote: Hi Armin Armin Le Grand schrieb: Hi List, with current trunk I cannot build svtools with debug, e.g. cd svtools make clean

Re: Some stats and observations on OpenOffice upgrades

2012-09-26 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 9:35 AM, Alexander Thurgood alex.thurg...@gmail.com wrote: Le 26/09/12 07:11, Reizinger Zoltán a écrit : Hi all, Many public administrations in France, e.g. schools/colleges, town/city halls that would have had OOo 3.3.x have not upgraded en masse : either they have

Re: Draft Blog Post: Use the Source, Luke

2012-09-26 Thread Rob Weir
scenarios - optimized for specific install scenarios Our Extensions websites -- there's more than one? Don On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 6:59 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 3:02 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 25/09/2012 Rob Weir wrote: https

Call for comments: Webpage for Listing OpenOffice Consultants

2012-09-26 Thread Rob Weir
Another one of those larger ecosystem things I'll be pushing on. If you recall the legacy OpenOffice.org project had a webpage that listed various consultants who provided services for OpenOffice. We took it down because it was very out of date and we didn't have time (at that time) to figure

Re: Call for comments: Webpage for Listing OpenOffice Consultants

2012-09-26 Thread Rob Weir
26, 2012 at 4:58 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Another one of those larger ecosystem things I'll be pushing on. If you recall the legacy OpenOffice.org project had a webpage that listed various consultants who provided services for OpenOffice. We took it down because it was very out

Re: Call for comments: Webpage for Listing OpenOffice Consultants

2012-09-26 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 5:04 PM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote: Still suggesting some sort of expiration mechanism (perhaps a timestamp in the entry, with a scheduled job to prune), so this doesn't become a barnacle

Re: Call for comments: Webpage for Listing OpenOffice Consultants

2012-09-26 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 4:58 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Another one of those larger ecosystem things I'll be pushing on. If you recall the legacy OpenOffice.org project had a webpage that listed various consultants who provided services for OpenOffice. We took it down because

Re: Call for comments: Webpage for Listing OpenOffice Consultants

2012-09-26 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: see inline below... On 09/26/2012 02:25 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 5:04 PM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote: Still

Re: Call for comments: Webpage for Listing OpenOffice Consultants

2012-09-26 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 7:28 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 6:40 PM, Lawrence Rosen lro...@rosenlaw.com wrote: The policy implications may be broader than you've summarized below. I read the draft disclaimer and I like it. But I'm not convinced

Re: [DISCUSS] [PMC] Proposed PMC List

2012-09-25 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 3:40 AM, Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com wrote: On 25 September 2012 06:15, imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw wrote: I feel honored to be listed. I would like to help PMC if there is a chance. In any case, I suggest at least one female should be included in the

Re: [DISCUSS] [PMC] Proposed PMC List

2012-09-25 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 6:42 AM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: On 25 September 2012 11:22, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 3:40 AM, Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com wrote: On 25 September 2012 06:15, imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw wrote: I feel

Re: [DISCUSS] [PMC] Proposed PMC List

2012-09-25 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 7:43 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 9/25/12 1:10 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 6:42 AM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: On 25 September 2012 11:22, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 3:40 AM, Ian

Re: OpenOffice in the browser?

2012-09-25 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Jesper Thomsen jes...@roozz.com wrote: Hi Regina, I am resending the message to this address as requested - I look forward to your feedback. Hi Jesper, Taking a look at your Roozz website, it looks like you would want to redistribute the binary packages for

Re: Help us brainstorm ideas for Apache OpenOffice 4.0

2012-09-25 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: As we perform the final preparations to release Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 it is a good time to look ahead to the future. A big opportunity is OpenOffice 4.0

Re: What is a good Project Management Committee?

2012-09-25 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com wrote: The Apache Way came up on the PMC list thread. Is the Apache Way exclusively about certain types of merit and not about any other factor or attribute? It seems from what mentors have written that community is a big part of

Draft Blog Post: Use the Source, Luke

2012-09-25 Thread Rob Weir
https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=use_the_source_luke Could use the usual proof reading. Also, specific requests: 1) Anyone have a recent KLOC estimate for the source code? 2) Any other recent non-end-user product uses that we should highlight? -Rob

Re: [DISCUSS][WWW] maybe time for a home page facelift?

2012-09-25 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: With our graduation coming up soon, it might be time for us to consider a slight update to the user portal web site -- http://www.openoffice.org/ -- for this momentous occasion. To this end, I've moved some entities to

Some stats and observations on OpenOffice upgrades

2012-09-25 Thread Rob Weir
I've been looking at the upgrade numbers, the downloads that are triggered from upgrade notifications in the OpenOffice client. Although we are not tracking how many times such notifications pop up in the OpenOffice client we do know from Google Analytics how many users click the link to get more

Re: Updating Committers on Project Status Page (was RE: New committer: Chen ZuoJun)

2012-09-24 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 5:37 AM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 24 September 2012 03:50, Rob Weir rabas...@gmail.com wrote: On Sep 23, 2012, at 10:15 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote: Rob, I recently took a look at http://incubator.apache.org/projects/openofficeorg.html

Re: [RELEASE] 3.5, 4.0, fixpack, milestone build...

2012-09-24 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 10:13 AM, Shenfeng Liu liush...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, all, After 3.4.1, we are focusing on preparation of the community graduation. But I still want to remind us to take some time to think about our future releases. We have the discussion early about what 3.5 and

Re: [RELEASE] 3.5, 4.0, fixpack, milestone build...

2012-09-24 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 8:59 AM, Keith N. McKenna keith.mcke...@comcast.net wrote: Rob Weir wrote: On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 10:13 AM, Shenfeng Liu liush...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, all, After 3.4.1, we are focusing on preparation of the community graduation. But I still want to remind us

Re: OpenOffice Developer Room (devroom) at FOSDEM

2012-09-24 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com wrote: On 12-09-24, at 07:59 , Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 9/24/12 1:20 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: FOSDEM, one of the biggest Free and Open Source Software events in Europe, is coming again on 2-3

Re: LICENSE text in the user interface

2012-09-24 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org wrote: Hi *, The About dialog (menu Tools - Help - About OOo) on trunk has now a button to display the README, LICENSE and NOTICE; you can try with the following binaries: Win:

Re: LICENSE text in the user interface

2012-09-24 Thread Rob Weir
. It is just making the claims more evident. In any case, if there are remaining doubts about this, II recommend taking them to legal-discuss for a definitive response. Regards, -Rob - Dennis -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Monday, September 24

Re: [User Docs] What do we as a community want for user documentation or AOO

2012-09-23 Thread Rob Weir
On Sep 22, 2012, at 7:43 PM, Keith N. McKenna keith.mcke...@comcast.net wrote: Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: I am not clear what the lazy consensus is about. Clearly, there is no restriction on anyone contributing to User Guides for Apache OpenOffice on ODFAUthors, beyond the

Re: New committer: Chen ZuoJun

2012-09-23 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote: The Apache OpenOffice PPMC announces the addition of committer Chen ZuoJun, zjchen@ apache.org The list of all current podling committers is at: http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#ooo. And one

Re: Updating Committers on Project Status Page (was RE: New committer: Chen ZuoJun)

2012-09-23 Thread Rob Weir
an XSLTRunner component that could be used for this. -Rob - Dennis -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 17:41 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: New committer: Chen ZuoJun On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Dennis

Re: [User Docs] What do we as a community want for user documentation or AOO

2012-09-22 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote: I am not clear what the lazy consensus is about. Clearly, there is no restriction on anyone contributing to User Guides for Apache OpenOffice on ODFAUthors, beyond the terms/conventions/what-ever that apply to

Re: [User Docs] What do we as a community want for user documentation or AOO

2012-09-22 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Keith N. McKenna keith.mcke...@comcast.net wrote: Keith N. McKenna wrote: Greetings All; In order to stimulate some discussion on user documentation I have added the hollowing page to the User Documentation Plan on the Plannig Wiki:

Re: Torrent connection for AOo 3.4.x download

2012-09-20 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone asked/is anyone asking Infra about a torrent tracker? I doubt they would set one up just for us. And most other Apache projects have much smaller distributions, so I don't think there is a wider Apache need

Re: Apache OpenOffice Awarded Two InfoWorld Bossie (Best of Open Source Software) Awards

2012-09-19 Thread Rob Weir
this puts the doubts to rest. The answer to an either/or question is sometimes both. -Rob - Simon 2012/9/19 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org InfoWorld is out with their 2012 Bossie awards (Best of Open Source). As far as I can see we are the only open source project that won two awards

Re: [DISCUSS][PMC] Proposed PMC List

2012-09-19 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com wrote: On 12-09-19, at 10:05 , Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 9/19/12 3:56 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: I would agree with Peter's list but would ask that Ian Lynch be considered. Here's why: Whom do we

Re: [DISCUSS][PMC] Proposed PMC List

2012-09-19 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts lo...@apache.org wrote: On 12-09-19, at 12:09 , Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: How would you deal with opacity here as to how these names were suggested? These are individual's stated preferences. Nothing more, nothing less. Unless

Re: uno_packages\cache and roaming profiles?

2012-09-18 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 7:27 AM, TJ Frazier tjfraz...@cfl.rr.com wrote: On 9/17/2012 19:23, Rob Weir wrote: This brought to our attention on Google+: https://plus.google.com/b/114598373874764163668/116726439814896173562/posts/b9ydzhxmZKs If I understand correctly, the contents

Re: Marketing--?

2012-09-18 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 12:08 AM, Louis Suárez-Potts lo...@apache.org wrote: ON marketing… There was there is there will be a marketing effort. But what is going on with it? I'd like to help out. You (and anyone else interested) should subscribe to the ooo-marketing mailing list by sending

Re: BItTorrents -- do we care?

2012-09-18 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 11:21 PM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Mon, 17 Sep 2012 19:13:24 -0400 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: I've recently seen a few requests for ability to download AOO via a torrent. something we do not currently provide. I see that OOo did

Re: [PMC] Proposed PMC List

2012-09-18 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 8:08 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann orwittm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, from my point of view we should give Andrew's approach a try. Thus, here are my ten names: Andre Fischer (af) Andrea Pescetti (pescetti) Ariel Constenla-Haile (arielch) Donald P. Harbison

Re: Amazon Download of Apache OpenOffice

2012-09-18 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Donald Harbison dpharbi...@gmail.com wrote: My Amazon contact informed me by email on Sep 12 that Apache OpenOffice is now available for download. Apologies to the community here for my slow action. Many know that I am dealing with a family medical situation

Re: Help us brainstorm ideas for Apache OpenOffice 4.0

2012-09-18 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: As we perform the final preparations to release Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 it is a good time to look ahead to the future. A big opportunity is OpenOffice 4.0. That once seemed so very far away, but 2013 is getting closer every

Re: [PMC] Proposed PMC List

2012-09-18 Thread Rob Weir
) Raphael Bircher (rbircher) Regina Henschel (regina) RGB.ES (rgb-es) Rob Weir (robweir) Roberto Galoppini (galoppini) Roberto Salomon (salomon) Simon Brouwer (simonbr) Thomas J. Frazier (yj) Wang Lei (leiw) Yang Shih-Ching (imacat) Yong Lin Ma (mayongl) Yuri Dario (ydario) Zhe Wang (wangzcdl

Apache OpenOffice Awarded Two InfoWorld Bossie (Best of Open Source Software) Awards

2012-09-18 Thread Rob Weir
InfoWorld is out with their 2012 Bossie awards (Best of Open Source). As far as I can see we are the only open source project that won two awards! In the desktop applications category we received an award for the OpenOffice application:

Re: Amazon Download of Apache OpenOffice 3.4

2012-09-17 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 3:45 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: On learning that Amazon.com is offering downloads of Apache OpenOffice, I was curious enough to go through the purchase ($0.00) and download process at http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008XAXAC4/. Here's

Re: What is a good Project Management Committee?

2012-09-17 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Andrew Rist andrew.r...@oracle.com wrote: I'm not particularly satisfied with current PMC selection process. I think the first pass was actually fairly reasonable, and fairly quickly resulted in a list that contains the people who are serious about the project.

Re: [PMC] Proposed PMC List

2012-09-17 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: We have not agreed to Andrew's proposal to use this approach, Aside from derailing yet another honest attempt at moving this forward, do you have a constructive counter-proposal to make? -Rob Go White Sox! Sent from

Re: [DISCUSS] [PMC] Proposed PMC List

2012-09-17 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 4:20 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: Hi Dave; What details do you need? :) I see it as a interesting approach: - Take 10 people that you think should be in the PMC. - Don't include yourself. - Add everyone that hits the radar after a week. we have a new

Re: Clipart library

2012-09-17 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 4:51 AM, Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com wrote: I'm organising the Open clipart library into categories. We could use this then as a useful resource to complement AOO. Any thoughts about the best way to implement making the categorised library available to the community?

BItTorrents -- do we care?

2012-09-17 Thread Rob Weir
I've recently seen a few requests for ability to download AOO via a torrent. something we do not currently provide. I see that OOo did this for legacy versions: http://www.openoffice.org/distribution/p2p/ According to the scripts on this page, it looks like it was run by a Mike in the

uno_packages\cache and roaming profiles?

2012-09-17 Thread Rob Weir
This brought to our attention on Google+: https://plus.google.com/b/114598373874764163668/116726439814896173562/posts/b9ydzhxmZKs If I understand correctly, the contents of the roaming profile are copied to the local machine at login time, and then copied back to the server at logout time. So

Re: What is a good Project Management Committee?

2012-09-16 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote: I think commitment is important. After all, it is visible commitment and reliable conduct that leads to invitation of a contributor to become an ASF committer. Demonstrated commitment through visible conduct is

Re: Record one-day download numbers

2012-09-16 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 8:38 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: That record did not last long. We broke the record the very next day (Tuesday) The new one-day download record is 192,305. Catching up after my vacation. We set new records for 1-day downloads on the following two days

Re: Did we ever reach consensus on support for Windows 2000

2012-09-16 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Keith N. McKenna keith.mcke...@comcast.net wrote: Greetings All; I was going through FAQ's and other pages on the AOO (incubating) site and noticed that many still are showing that we support Windows 2000 as a baseline operating system. I though I remembered

Re: [User Docs] What do we as a community want for user documentation or AOO

2012-09-16 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 5:15 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: TJ Frazier wrote: As a long-time volunteer with ODFA (formerly OOA), I can promise that we (AOO) can get documents from them. The cost of this option is (1) a legal review and approval of CC-BY v3; (2) some storage

Re: [User Docs] What do we as a community want for user documentation or AOO

2012-09-16 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 9:18 PM, Keith N. McKenna keith.mcke...@comcast.net wrote: Greetings All; In order to stimulate some discussion on user documentation I have added the hollowing page to the User Documentation Plan on the Plannig Wiki:

Re: Did we ever reach consensus on support for Windows 2000

2012-09-16 Thread Rob Weir
On Sep 16, 2012, at 11:38 PM, Keith N. McKenna keith.mcke...@comcast.net wrote: Rob Weir wrote: On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Keith N. McKenna keith.mcke...@comcast.net wrote: Greetings All; I was going through FAQ's and other pages on the AOO (incubating) site and noticed that many

Re: Moderating ooo-private

2012-09-15 Thread Rob Weir
On Sep 15, 2012, at 7:20 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org wrote: Hi Ross, On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 08:42:13AM +0100, Ross Gardler wrote: Many user enquiries come to ooo-private and are moderated through. They shouldn't be. That list should have almost zero traffic. Users are

Re: What is a good Project Management Committee?

2012-09-15 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 8:16 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote: I have no position on how the PMC is established. I have no skin in the game. I do expect that the manner of selection might need to be a demonstration that this project is self-governing and that it fosters

Fwd: OpenOffice status

2012-09-14 Thread Rob Weir
FYI, as posted on gene...@incubator.apache.org. -Rob -- Forwarded message -- From: Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com Date: Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 2:52 AM Subject: OpenOffice status To: gene...@incubator.apache.org Hi, Thanks for the report, OpenOffice! After spend a few

Re: [DISCUSS] ML Moderators

2012-09-13 Thread Rob Weir
While I remember, one other dependency to note. Whoever takes the lead on security communications should also be added as a moderator on ooo-announce. This is so they can let their own security bulletin posts through without delay. -Rob On Sep 12, 2012, at 6:51 PM, Rob Weir rabas...@gmail.com

Re: [DISCUSS] ML Moderators

2012-09-12 Thread Rob Weir
On Sep 12, 2012, at 3:14 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Hi, Here are the changes to moderation that will be requested shortly. If anyone else would like to be added please respond. I will create a JIRA issue for the changes this weekend. Please open another email thread to

Re: [DISCUSS] Code of Conduct

2012-09-11 Thread Rob Weir
On Sep 10, 2012, at 7:52 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Hi, We have a code of conduct here: http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/list-conduct.html These are the community's code and we should all agree to abide by the code. Maybe there is some more work to do exposing

Re: [DISCUSS] ML Moderators

2012-09-11 Thread Rob Weir
On Sep 11, 2012, at 2:52 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Sep 10, 2012, at 10:47 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Sep 10, 2012, at 7:17 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Hi, Dennis is handling transitions on ooo-private. I'm traveling tomorrow and will put together

Re: [DISCUSS]: What should be part of AOO by default or what belongs more into a broader eco-system around AOO

2012-09-11 Thread Rob Weir
On Sep 11, 2012, at 12:27 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, based on an enquiry for some partnership I think it make sense to discuss a general question. Which features, improvements, enhancements should be part of AOO by default or which belongs more in a broader

Re: Helping open office

2012-09-11 Thread Rob Weir
On Sep 11, 2012, at 2:51 PM, sean gayton gayta...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, My name is Sean and my peer is Bianca (cc'd) and we're looking to help contribute to Open Office.We were hoping we could assist with some documentation in creating a simple user guide and installation guide for

Re: [DISCUSS] defining roles for management, coordination, work items...

2012-09-10 Thread Rob Weir
On Sep 9, 2012, at 2:51 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/08/2012 02:15 PM, tj wrote: On 9/8/2012 13:50, Dave Fisher wrote: On Sep 7, 2012, at 6:50 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: Hi, I would like to give my thoughts on defining roles for management, ... as the thread

Re: Volunteers needed to pickup some tasks

2012-09-10 Thread Rob Weir
On Sep 10, 2012, at 11:32 AM, TJ Frazier tjfraz...@cfl.rr.com wrote: On 9/9/2012 12:25, David McKay wrote: On 09/09/12 17:19, David McKay wrote: On 08/09/12 22:06, TJ Frazier wrote: On 9/8/2012 16:50, tj wrote: On 9/8/2012 12:01, David McKay wrote: On 08/09/12 06:50, Rob Weir wrote: 2

Re: [DISCUSS] ML Moderators

2012-09-10 Thread Rob Weir
On Sep 10, 2012, at 7:17 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Hi, Dennis is handling transitions on ooo-private. I'm traveling tomorrow and will put together a final list and write the JIRA issue for Apache Infra. Is there a reason why this discussion cannot be on ooo-dev? If

Re: [DISCUSS] ML Moderators

2012-09-08 Thread Rob Weir
On Sep 8, 2012, at 12:41 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Hi - Since Rob and Dennis will be leaving their ML moderators it is time to revisit all of the lists. There are others that need action. I think we should be replacing mentors (unless they explicitly choose to remain.)

Re: Torrent connection for AOo 3.4.x download

2012-09-07 Thread Rob Weir
On Aug 30, 2012, at 12:57 AM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: This morning the en-Forum received the following query http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15t=55992 To save you looking it up, the User asked if there would be a torrent connection for AOO 3.4.x,

Re: What is a good Project Management Committee?

2012-09-07 Thread Rob Weir
On Sep 7, 2012, at 8:42 AM, Andrew Rist andrew.r...@oracle.com wrote: I'm not particularly satisfied with current PMC selection process. I think the first pass was actually fairly reasonable, and fairly quickly resulted in a list that contains the people who are serious about the project.

Volunteers needed to pickup some tasks

2012-09-07 Thread Rob Weir
I'm raising my focus a little in this project to look more into some larger ecosystem opportunities. As part of this change in focus I'll have less time to deal with day-to-day operational aspects of the project. So I'd like to shed some responsibilities and I hope there are volunteers able or

Re: What is a good Project Management Committee member?

2012-09-06 Thread Rob Weir
On Sep 6, 2012, at 1:17 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Sep 6, 2012, at 5:42 AM, Sam Ruby wrote: On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 11:30 PM, Rob Weir rabas...@gmail.com wrote: Think of an orchestra. We don't expect every player to play every instrument. But we do expect a musicianship

Re: Distribution Project - Update

2012-09-05 Thread Rob Weir
On Sep 4, 2012, at 7:11 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Hi John, Are there any updates on this? I have asked a little while ago with no response. I am willing to get this up and running. Please let me know. I'd like to preface Rob's answers with a couple of remarks. I went

Re: What is a good Project Management Committee member?

2012-09-05 Thread Rob Weir
On Sep 5, 2012, at 9:20 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 9/5/12 11:32 AM, Ian Lynch wrote: On 5 September 2012 09:40, Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de wrote: Hi all, some time ago we expressed, that we think the project is ready to graduate. In the process of

Re: [Discuss] Triage of Brainstorming

2012-09-04 Thread Rob Weir
On Sep 4, 2012, at 5:55 AM, Torokhov Sergey torokhov_...@mail.ru wrote: On Friday 24 of August 2012 17:19:33 Phillip Rhodes wrote: Somebody slap my wrist or correct me if this is redundant, or in the wrong place, but I didn't see anything on the wiki related to AOO4 brainstorming, so I

Re: Distribution Project - Update

2012-09-04 Thread Rob Weir
On Sep 4, 2012, at 5:21 PM, John supp...@123openoffice.com wrote: Are there any updates on this? I have asked a little while ago with no response. I am willing to get this up and running. Please let me know. Is it clear, from the previous discussions, what the range of concerns were? If so

Re: Record one-day download numbers

2012-08-29 Thread Rob Weir
That record did not last long. We broke the record the very next day (Tuesday) The new one-day download record is 192,305. -Rob On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 7:44 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Yesterday (Monday) we had 188,971 downloads of AOO. This beats our previous one-day download

Re: 27MB odt file in svn

2012-08-29 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 9:52 AM, Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I just saw that we have now two new binary files in the test/ module. main/test/testgui/data/svt/complex.ods has a size of 9 424 385 Bytes and main/test/testgui/data/svt/complex.odt has a size of 27 175 936 Bytes.

Re: 27MB odt file in svn

2012-08-29 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Joost Andrae joost.and...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Rob, in my opinion a source control system should not be used to store binary objects. Quite probable multiple copies of the same binary are stored within the SVN system if you branch the source tree. Additionally

Re: 27MB odt file in svn

2012-08-29 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com wrote: On 29.08.2012 16:02, Rob Weir wrote: On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 9:52 AM, Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I just saw that we have now two new binary files in the test/ module. main/test/testgui/data/svt

Re: [User Documentation]Are there any plans in place or formal user documentation for AOO

2012-08-29 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Keith N. McKenna keith.mcke...@comcast.net wrote: Good Day All; Today I am going to venture into the breach and bring up a topic that in my experience is most developers favorite profanity: i.e. User Documentation. One of the major reasons I have used and

Record one-day download numbers

2012-08-28 Thread Rob Weir
Yesterday (Monday) we had 188,971 downloads of AOO. This beats our previous one-day download record of 187,336 which was set on May 13th. Regards, -Rob

Re: Record one-day download numbers

2012-08-28 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Michal Hriň michalh...@aol.com wrote: Yesterday (Monday) we had 188,971 downloads of AOO. This beats our previous one-day download record of 187,336 which was set on May 13th. Regards, -Rob Congrats ! Do we have separate numbers for languages ? Slovak,

Re: [BZ] Request a keyword to identify issue found by automation

2012-08-28 Thread Rob Weir
Done. -Rob On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 1:27 AM, Ji Yan yanji...@gmail.com wrote: Hi BZ admin, We are requesting for a keyword, something like automation_bug, which could be used to identify the issue found by automation test. -- Thanks Best Regards, Yan Ji

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