Re: Updating Committers on Project Status Page (was RE: New committer: Chen ZuoJun)

2012-09-24 Thread sebb
On 24 September 2012 03:50, Rob Weir rabas...@gmail.com wrote: On Sep 23, 2012, at 10:15 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote: Rob, I recently took a look at http://incubator.apache.org/projects/openofficeorg.html to see if I could derive that list from the Roster. What gave

Re: Updating Committers on Project Status Page (was RE: New committer: Chen ZuoJun)

2012-09-24 Thread sebb
On 24 September 2012 13:50, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Sep 24, 2012, at 4:34 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 5:37 AM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 24 September 2012 03:50, Rob Weir rabas...@gmail.com wrote: On Sep 23, 2012, at 10:15 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton orc

Re: Updating Committers on Project Status Page (was RE: New committer: Chen ZuoJun)

2012-09-24 Thread sebb
On 24 September 2012 22:35, Shane Curcuru a...@shanecurcuru.org wrote: On 9/24/2012 7:34 AM, Rob Weir wrote: ...snip... Is there any easy way to track PMC membership? Maybe that be derived from the authz for the eventual /pmc/openoffice tree?Eventually we want an easy way to generate a

Re: [DISCUSS][PMC] Proposed PMC List

2012-09-20 Thread sebb
On 20 September 2012 07:45, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: RGB ES wrote: 2012/9/19 Dennis E. Hamilton I recommend that the process continue. My only objection is that having secret nominations is not compatible with the Apache Way ... I recommend that no one accept nominations

Re: What is a good Project Management Committee?

2012-09-07 Thread sebb
On 7 September 2012 22:26, Rob Weir rabas...@gmail.com wrote: On Sep 7, 2012, at 8:42 AM, Andrew Rist andrew.r...@oracle.com wrote: I'm not particularly satisfied with current PMC selection process. I think the first pass was actually fairly reasonable, and fairly quickly resulted in a list

Re: 27MB odt file in svn

2012-08-29 Thread sebb
On 29 August 2012 15:43, Joost Andrae joost.and...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Rob, snip/ Quite probable multiple copies of the same binary are stored within the SVN system if you branch the source tree. SVN branches are cheap copies; they don't copy the contents. If the object does not change, then

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) released

2012-08-24 Thread sebb
On 24 August 2012 09:20, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 18:01:42 -0400 Maurice Howe maur...@stny.rr.com wrote: Got a warning msg that your product was unsafe, so I deleted the download. Here's the msg. snip I have this morning scanned my Windows XP computer on

Re: proposed new directory structure for future releases

2012-08-24 Thread sebb
On 24 August 2012 10:08, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 8/23/12 11:37 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: On 08/23/2012 01:14 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 08/23/2012 10:02 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 3:37 PM, RGB ESrgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/8/23 Kay

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) released

2012-08-24 Thread sebb
On 24 August 2012 11:51, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 11:31:05 +0100 sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 24 August 2012 09:20, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 18:01:42 -0400 Maurice Howe maur...@stny.rr.com wrote: Got a warning msg

Re: OOO: missing group write permissions under /dist

2012-08-23 Thread sebb
On 22 August 2012 18:50, Juergen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 8/22/12 5:20 PM, sebb wrote: Checking /www/www.apache.org/dist/incubator The following entries don't have group write enabled. This can cause problems later, so please fix, Thanks! 54214290 6 drwxr-sr-x 3 jsc

Re: [DISCUSS] Proposed PMC Chair nomination process

2012-08-23 Thread sebb
On 23 August 2012 19:22, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: I suggest that the initial Project Management Committee (PMC) needs to be identified before the election of a Chair from that body is undertaken. The initial proposed PMC for other podlings has usually been taken from

Re: proposed new directory structure for future releases

2012-08-23 Thread sebb
On 23 August 2012 21:14, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 08/23/2012 10:02 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 3:37 PM, RGB ESrgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/8/23 Kay Schenkkay.sch...@gmail.com: Way back in late April, Juergen proposed a new directory structure for

Re: svn commit: r829379 - in /websites/production/ooo-site: cgi-bin/ content/

2012-08-22 Thread sebb
On 22 August 2012 07:05, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: sebb wrote: On 21 August 2012 22:23, Daniel Shahaf wrote: Why? Could very well have a publish all changes mode (the current only option) alongside the cherry picking (publish only selected file) mode. This thread started

OOO: missing group write permissions under /dist

2012-08-22 Thread sebb
Checking /www/www.apache.org/dist/incubator The following entries don't have group write enabled. This can cause problems later, so please fix, Thanks! 54214290 6 drwxr-sr-x 3 jsc incubator 3 Aug 21 19:32 ./ooo/3.4.1 54214291 6 drwxr-sr-x 2 jsc incubator 14 Aug 21 19:32 ./ooo/3.4.1/source

Re: svn commit: r829379 - in /websites/production/ooo-site: cgi-bin/ content/

2012-08-21 Thread sebb
On 21 August 2012 13:43, Daniel Shahaf danie...@apache.org wrote: Jürgen Schmidt wrote on Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 14:38:34 +0200: On 8/20/12 10:02 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 09:49:52PM +0200, Marcus (OOo) wrote: @all: Sorry but IMHO this process failed. Just

Re: svn commit: r829379 - in /websites/production/ooo-site: cgi-bin/ content/

2012-08-21 Thread sebb
On 21 August 2012 22:23, Daniel Shahaf danie...@apache.org wrote: sebb wrote on Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 16:04:12 +0100: On 21 August 2012 13:43, Daniel Shahaf danie...@apache.org wrote: Jürgen Schmidt wrote on Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 14:38:34 +0200: On 8/20/12 10:02 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote

Re: [DRAFT] AOO 3.4.1 Release Announcement for Review

2012-08-16 Thread sebb
On 16 August 2012 19:06, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=announcing_apache_openoffice_3_4 Comments are welcome. I found Support for Windows XP-Windows 8 (32-bit) a bit difficult to read at first. Perhaps put Support for Windows from XP

Re: OO Sold on eBay

2012-08-12 Thread sebb
On 12 August 2012 17:38, Max Merbald max.merb...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, I'd say it's not very fair because probably not everyone knows OOO is available for free. It's kind of weird that someone is trying to make money with something which is available for free. The page does actually say (near

Re: OO Sold on eBay

2012-08-12 Thread sebb
On 13 August 2012 01:29, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 5:50 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 10:49 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Max Merbald max.merb...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, I'd say

Re: Download URL of commons-logging

2012-08-07 Thread sebb
On 7 August 2012 09:00, Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com wrote: On 06.08.2012 21:20, sebb wrote: On 6 August 2012 16:31, Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com wrote: On 03.08.2012 12:45, sebb wrote: On 3 August 2012 09:09, Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I am currently cleaning

Re: Download URL of commons-logging

2012-08-06 Thread sebb
On 6 August 2012 16:31, Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com wrote: On 03.08.2012 12:45, sebb wrote: On 3 August 2012 09:09, Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I am currently cleaning up and improving the download mechanism of the external tarballs. Most of them (all that are used

Re: Download URL of commons-logging

2012-08-03 Thread sebb
On 3 August 2012 09:09, Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I am currently cleaning up and improving the download mechanism of the external tarballs. Most of them (all that are used by the AOO34 branch) can now be found on apache-extras [1]. However, that is intended only as a

Re: [VOTE][DISCUSS]: Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating)

2012-08-02 Thread sebb
On 31 July 2012 14:59, O.Felka olaf-openoff...@gmx.de wrote: Am 31.07.2012 15:45, schrieb Rob Weir: The only issue I saw is that when we install over 3.3.0 or 3.4.0, we leave behind the older version's unpacked files on the desktop, the files from the earlier install. Those files could be

Re: Archiving the AOO 3.4.0

2012-07-30 Thread sebb
On 30 July 2012 06:44, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Raphael Bircher wrote: I working at the moment on the Archive for the AOO 3.4.0. The big question is: Is it enough to archive only the langpacks and a en-US Version? Same Question also for older Versions. We would save a load

Re: Archiving the AOO 3.4.0

2012-07-30 Thread sebb
On 30 July 2012 15:14, Raphael Bircher r.birc...@gmx.ch wrote: Am 30.07.12 16:00, schrieb Rob Weir: On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 1:44 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Raphael Bircher wrote: I working at the moment on the Archive for the AOO 3.4.0. The big question is: Is it enough to

Re: Coding guideline or common rules

2012-07-20 Thread sebb
On 20 July 2012 22:22, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: I've seen the comment about SCMs being sufficient for tracing the provenance of code and the changes that are made. That puzzles me. - History doesn't appear in source-code tarballs. - It requires the original SCM

Re: Registration

2012-07-16 Thread sebb
On 16 July 2012 17:26, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Barry Storah barrysto...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, I keep getting a message to Register Your OpenOffice.org, it is not possible as I always get the message - Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage,

Re: Registration

2012-07-16 Thread sebb
On 16 July 2012 19:01, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 1:13 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 16 July 2012 17:26, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Barry Storah barrysto...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, I keep getting a message

Re: SVN mistake, Sorry

2012-07-02 Thread sebb
On 2 July 2012 09:52, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com wrote: On 6/30/12 3:11 PM, sebb wrote: On 29 June 2012 20:54, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: @Risto, I recommend using a00-3.4.1-incubating-src.tar.gz if you have a Windows utility that will open it. There I

Re: SVN mistake, Sorry

2012-06-30 Thread sebb
On 29 June 2012 20:54, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: @Risto, I recommend using a00-3.4.1-incubating-src.tar.gz if you have a Windows utility that will open it. There I see a total of 66,365 files requiring 1.6GB (uncompressed). There is apparently not a separate

Re: [CODE]: update code signing for Windows

2012-06-22 Thread sebb
On 22 June 2012 12:03, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, I analyzed and played with code signing on Windows using a self signed test certificate. Thanks to Andre and his Perl skills I was able to fix a strange build problem with a too long command line triggered from a

Re: Commit message summaries

2012-06-21 Thread sebb
On 21 June 2012 19:10, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 8:10 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com wrote: On 6/21/12 11:47 AM, Herbert Duerr wrote: On 21.06.2012 10:17, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: We have already introduced the Patch by, Review By .. fields for

Re: [Proposal] Guidelines for list conduct policy

2012-06-19 Thread sebb
On 18 June 2012 13:30, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/6/18 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org:   1.   What Happens in Vegas, Stays in Vegas:   Anything you read in the private list is by default a private PPMC   affair and not to be spoken of, or copied to other people who are not in   the

Re: Final look at art work ( Re: First Year Anniversary - party CD)

2012-06-13 Thread sebb
On 13 June 2012 01:33, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 00:28 +0100, sebb wrote: On 12 June 2012 22:34, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: On Wed, 2012-06-06 at 18:48 -0400, drew wrote: I would like to propose that we treat the 13th of the month as our 1st Anniversary

Re: Final look at art work ( Re: First Year Anniversary - party CD)

2012-06-13 Thread sebb
On 13 June 2012 11:26, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 11:11 +0100, sebb wrote: On 13 June 2012 01:33, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 00:28 +0100, sebb wrote: On 12 June 2012 22:34, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: On Wed, 2012-06-06 at 18:48

Re: Final look at art work ( Re: First Year Anniversary - party CD)

2012-06-13 Thread sebb
) On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 11:11 +0100, sebb wrote: On 13 June 2012 01:33, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 00:28 +0100, sebb wrote: On 12 June 2012 22:34, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: On Wed, 2012-06-06 at 18:48 -0400, drew wrote: I would like to propose that we treat

Re: Final look at art work ( Re: First Year Anniversary - party CD)

2012-06-13 Thread sebb
On 13 June 2012 23:33, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 13 June 2012 18:51, Nancy K nancythirt...@yahoo.com wrote: Sorry for not posting the link - here it is https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/27834929/freeyourself_PosterB.jpg The page footer is truncated on the RHS

Re: Final look at art work ( Re: First Year Anniversary - party CD)

2012-06-12 Thread sebb
On 12 June 2012 22:34, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: On Wed, 2012-06-06 at 18:48 -0400, drew wrote: I would like to propose that we treat the 13th of the month as our 1st Anniversary and would like to do the following for the occasion: snip I would like to release two CD iso images,

Re: User demographics

2012-06-11 Thread sebb
On 11 June 2012 03:27, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On one of the UX threads there is ongoing discussion about a possible user survey.  I mentioned that we have some info from users, from information collected by Google Analytics.  There was some interest in this data, so I offered to

Re: Installation Experience and Feedback

2012-06-11 Thread sebb
On 11 June 2012 16:17, Andre Fischer a...@a-w-f.de wrote: On 11.06.2012 16:51, O.Felka wrote: Am 11.06.2012 16:37, schrieb Andre Fischer: On 11.06.2012 15:53, O.Felka wrote: AFAICT, the unpacked files are only needed for installation, and one still has the initial download, so why

Re: Installation Experience and Feedback

2012-06-11 Thread sebb
On 11 June 2012 16:33, Peter Brawley peter.braw...@earthlink.net wrote: On 2012-06-10 7:18 PM, sebb wrote: On 9 June 2012 14:57, O.Felkaolaf-openoff...@gmx.de  wrote: Am 09.06.2012 14:22, schrieb sebb: AFAICT, the unpacked files are only needed for installation, and one still has

Re: Installation Experience and Feedback

2012-06-10 Thread sebb
On 9 June 2012 14:57, O.Felka olaf-openoff...@gmx.de wrote: Am 09.06.2012 14:22, schrieb sebb: AFAICT, the unpacked files are only needed for installation, and one still has the initial download, so why clutter up the disk? this is not true. The unpacked files are needed for the so called

Re: First Year Anniversary - party CD

2012-06-09 Thread sebb
On 9 June 2012 08:24, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: On Fri, 2012-06-08 at 19:27 +0100, sebb wrote: On 8 June 2012 19:05, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: On Thu, 2012-06-07 at 21:13 -0400, Rob Weir wrote: On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 6:43 PM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: On Thu, 2012-06

Re: Installation Experience and Feedback

2012-06-09 Thread sebb
On 9 June 2012 08:57, O.Felka olaf-openoff...@gmx.de wrote: Am 08.06.2012 19:00, schrieb sebb: On 7 June 2012 03:57, Gavin McDonald ga...@16degrees.com.au wrote: Hi, b. The program 'Unpacks' to a folder on the 'Desktop' - Why? Really we should be choosing the 'Downloads' folder

Re: Installation Experience and Feedback

2012-06-08 Thread sebb
On 7 June 2012 03:57, Gavin McDonald ga...@16degrees.com.au wrote: Hi All, snip/ 1. Download OpenOffice 3.4 from openoffice.org mirror. -- Time: 2 minutes. 2. Unpack . -- Time: 1 minute. 3. Install. -- Time: 2 minutes. 4. Erm, nothing e4lse, we are done! It really was as painless and

Re: First Year Anniversary - party CD

2012-06-08 Thread sebb
On 8 June 2012 19:05, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: On Thu, 2012-06-07 at 21:13 -0400, Rob Weir wrote: On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 6:43 PM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: On Thu, 2012-06-07 at 14:35 -0700, Nancy K wrote: I do like all of these, but have to show you folks what my friend Reya

Re: [PROPOSAL] Starting the graduation process

2012-05-29 Thread sebb
On 30 May 2012 00:03, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: --- Mar 29/5/12, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org ha scritto: ... The idea that we have remaining issues with Category-B tarballs in the tree has been around since before the release, and one of our mentors (Ross I recall) did

Re: [PROPOSAL] Starting the graduation process

2012-05-29 Thread sebb
On 30 May 2012 00:50, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 7:34 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 30 May 2012 00:03, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: --- Mar 29/5/12, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org ha scritto: ... The idea that we have remaining issues

Wikipedia pages

2012-05-20 Thread sebb
FYI: Just noticed that the Wikipedia office suite comparison page [1] has an entry for Apache OpenOffice. This says that the licence is LGPL, which is wrong. The correct license is mentioned on the AOO page [2]. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_office_suites [2]

Re: Feedback on the CMS

2012-05-11 Thread sebb
On 11 May 2012 21:23, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Rob Weir robw...@apache.org To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com Cc: Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 2:32 PM Subject: Re: Feedback on the CMS On Fri, May 11,

Re: svn commit: r1336368 - /incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext

2012-05-10 Thread sebb
On 10 May 2012 07:17, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: 1. You can Save as UTF8 in Windows Notepad. 2. The BOM (Byte-Order-Mark) is a special two-byte prefix that is usually used with UTF16 to determine whether the two bytes of each 16-bit code are big-endian or

Re: svn commit: r1336368 - /incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext

2012-05-10 Thread sebb
On 10 May 2012 19:52, Juan C. Sanz juancsa...@hotmail.com wrote: El 10/05/2012 20:36, Dave Fisher escribió: On May 10, 2012, at 11:15 AM, sebb wrote: On 10 May 2012 07:17, Dennis E. Hamiltondennis.hamil...@acm.org  wrote: 1. You can Save as UTF8 in Windows Notepad. 2. The BOM (Byte-Order

Re: [ML] Please state that the mail was approved and that the author is not subscribed to the ML

2012-05-08 Thread sebb
On 9 May 2012 02:01, Larry Gusaas larry.gus...@gmail.com wrote: On 2012-05-08 4:32 PM  Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 05/09/2012 12:07 AM, schrieb Simon Phipps: On 8 May 2012, at 22:55, Marcus (OOo) wrote: When you as ML moderator approve a post to a mailing list, please can you also state that

update*.services.openoffice.org

2012-05-07 Thread sebb
I see there have been some attempts to understand and fix the update functionality. One aspect that does not seem to have been covered is that several of the host names embedded in existing releases currently point to what appears to be a 3rd party host, viz: sd-web4.staroffice.de This resolves

Re: Draft blog post: Avoiding OpenOffice Download Scams

2012-04-30 Thread sebb
On 30 April 2012 19:10, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=draft_avoiding_openoffice_download_scams I know Louis and others have dealt with these things for longer. Anything else I should mention? I considered adding a discussion of the

Re: Draft blog post: Avoiding OpenOffice Download Scams

2012-04-30 Thread sebb
On 30 April 2012 19:41, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 2:27 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 30 April 2012 19:10, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=draft_avoiding_openoffice_download_scams I know Louis

Re: Mirroring both OOo and AOOo Fwd: [Daniel Shahaf: Opt-out from mirroring resource-intensive projects]

2012-04-20 Thread sebb
On 20 April 2012 13:26, Daniel Shahaf danie...@apache.org wrote: OOo PPMC: Several mirror operators have asked whether they are expected to carry both their preexisting/legacy OOo mirrors and the AOOo mirror. We're assuming the legacy OOo mirrors can be dropped once an AOOo release is Out

[www] Website must display disclaimer text

2011-08-21 Thread sebb
The website clearly mentions that the podling is in the Incubator, but it also needs to prominently display the disclaimer, see: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html#disclaimers Please could this be added ASAP? Thanks!