A quick reminder. The support forums are still pointing to Oracle's
Policies and Terms of Use document:
http://www.openoffice.org/terms_of_use
This is inappropriate, inaccurate, confusing and quite possibly
improper. It is also embarrassing for our project to have a Terms of
Use page that
This page is blank and now redirects to /license.html
If someone cares to change it go ahead.
Regards,
Dave
On Oct 14, 2012, at 5:28 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
A quick reminder. The support forums are still pointing to Oracle's
Policies and Terms of Use document:
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 9:06 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote:
This page is blank and now redirects to /license.html
Thanks!
-Rob
If someone cares to change it go ahead.
Regards,
Dave
On Oct 14, 2012, at 5:28 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
A quick reminder. The support forums are
...@apache.org]
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 18:55
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Terms of Service on Forums
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 9:45 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote:
Um, yes, it definitely is the ASF that should be standing behind the ToU.
They're
.
-Original Message-
From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org]
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 18:55
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Terms of Service on Forums
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 9:45 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote:
Um, yes
Subject: Re: Terms of Service on Forums
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 9:45 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote:
Um, yes, it definitely is the ASF that should be standing behind the
ToU. They're the only legal entity.
Of CollabNet ToU, I know not. The terms.mdtext that Kay found
@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Terms of Service on Forums
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 9:45 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote:
Um, yes, it definitely is the ASF that should be standing behind the
ToU. They're the only legal entity.
Of CollabNet ToU, I know not. The terms.mdtext
further to add to this conversation.
- Dennis
-Original Message-
From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org]
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 04:50
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Terms of Service on Forums
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 11:26 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
dennis.hamil...@acm.org
, 2012 11:01
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Terms of Service on Forums
On Jul 16, 2012, at 10:45 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
[ ... ]
I still think that we should just post an ASF copyright notice, and
link to privacy and trademark policies.
Agreed.
Regards,
Dave
[ ... ]
-Original Message-
From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org]
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 04:50
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Terms of Service on Forums
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 11:26 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote:
I am not the one to answer
then I am fine discussing it
there.
Regards,
Dave
- Dennis
-Original Message-
From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net]
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 11:01
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Terms of Service on Forums
On Jul 16, 2012, at 10:45 AM, Rob
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From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net]
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 11:01
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Terms of Service on Forums
On Jul 16, 2012, at 10:45 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
[ ... ]
I still think that we should just post an ASF copyright notice
.
-Original Message-
From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net]
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 12:41
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Cc: legal-disc...@apache.org
Subject: Re: Terms of Service on Forums
[ ... ]
You cc'd legal-discuss while cutting out much of this whole email
: Monday, July 16, 2012 11:01
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Terms of Service on Forums
On Jul 16, 2012, at 10:45 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
[ ... ]
I still think that we should just post an ASF copyright notice, and
link to privacy and trademark policies.
Agreed.
Regards,
Dave
On Jul 16, 2012, at 3:16 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote:
I suggest that one not be so careless about asserting ASF copyright on third
party materials.
Why does this meme persist?
Why is there a copyright notice
Top-Post meta-comment - Dennis answered on legal-discuss - if you wish to
follow:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/201207.mbox/browser
Regards,
Dave
On Jul 16, 2012, at 3:30 PM, Kevan Miller wrote:
On Jul 16, 2012, at 3:16 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
On Mon, Jul 16,
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:
On 07/07/2012 09:42 AM, drew wrote:
On Sat, 2012-07-07 at 12:27 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 11:31 AM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote:
On Thu, 2012-07-05 at 14:01 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
On Thu,
Subject: Re: Terms of Service on Forums
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:
[ ... ]
I just did a very quick draft mock-up of a new TOU at:
https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/***
DRAFT*+Terms+of+Usehttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display
, 2012 15:01
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Terms of Service on Forums
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:
[ ... ]
I just did a very quick draft mock-up of a new TOU at:
https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/***
DRAFT
?
-Original Message-
From: Kay Schenk [mailto:kay.sch...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 15:01
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Terms of Service on Forums
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:
[ ... ]
I just did a very quick draft mock
. incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg
is a different game.
-Original Message-
From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org]
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 17:44
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Terms of Service on Forums
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 8:11 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
dennis.hamil...@acm.org
website with legal terms like we are one.
-Rob
-Original Message-
From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org]
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 17:44
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Terms of Service on Forums
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 8:11 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
dennis.hamil
to armor our
website with legal terms like we are one.
-Rob
-Original Message-
From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org]
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 17:44
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Terms of Service on Forums
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 8:11 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
On 07/07/2012 09:42 AM, drew wrote:
On Sat, 2012-07-07 at 12:27 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 11:31 AM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote:
On Thu, 2012-07-05 at 14:01 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
snip
orcmid
This might need
On Fri, 2012-07-06 at 20:56 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 7:28 PM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote:
Hello everyone,
Clean slate - alright!
How about we just start with something everyone agrees on.
Point of order. I've made a proposal, in this thread, just two days
On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 9:54 AM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote:
On Fri, 2012-07-06 at 20:56 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 7:28 PM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote:
Hello everyone,
Clean slate - alright!
How about we just start with something everyone agrees on.
the current main sites footer as the
template, over time.
Sure.
orcmid comments=more in-line below/
- Dennis
-Original Message-
From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org]
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 06:50
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Terms of Service
04, 2012 06:50
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Terms of Service on Forums
On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 11:11 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote:
[ ... ]
I created an issue that proposed a new terms of use that was
consistent with the Oracle ones
On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 11:31 AM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote:
On Thu, 2012-07-05 at 14:01 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
snip
orcmid
This might need to be separated for what the agreement is when people
register/subscribe and provide
On Sat, 2012-07-07 at 12:27 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 11:31 AM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote:
On Thu, 2012-07-05 at 14:01 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
snip
orcmid
This might need to be separated for what the
On Wed, 2012-07-04 at 20:49 +0200, Hagar Delest wrote:
Le mer. 04 juil. 2012 04:44:19 CEST, drew d...@baseanswers.com a écrit :
Yes - it goes to the page on the website - a page I tried to get people
to look at for fixup months ago - but there was no interest in doing so
at the time, and
Message du 06/07/12 14:21
De : drew
*chuckling*...what you think my memory could be faulty - never.. well,
once or twice, maybe. Now what was the question?
I think that the question can be closed since the link is now pointing to thte
correct page.
Perhaps during an operation on the forum
On Fri, 2012-07-06 at 22:22 +0200, hagar.delest wrote:
Message du 06/07/12 14:21
De : drew
*chuckling*...what you think my memory could be faulty - never.. well,
once or twice, maybe. Now what was the question?
I think that the question can be closed since the link is now pointing to
On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote:
On Jul 6, 2012, at 1:57 PM, drew wrote:
On Fri, 2012-07-06 at 22:22 +0200, hagar.delest wrote:
Message du 06/07/12 14:21
De : drew
*chuckling*...what you think my memory could be faulty - never.. well,
once or twice,
Hello everyone,
Clean slate - alright!
How about we just start with something everyone agrees on.
The page at http://www.openoffice.org/terms_of_use is wrong.
We either fix it or stop using it and remove it.
But for today...
If you look at this page
http://user.services.openoffice.org/
it
On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 7:28 PM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote:
Hello everyone,
Clean slate - alright!
How about we just start with something everyone agrees on.
Point of order. I've made a proposal, in this thread, just two days
ago. it is a clean slate, based on nothing before it.
On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.netwrote:
Le mer. 04 juil. 2012 04:44:19 CEST, drew d...@baseanswers.com a écrit :
Yes - it goes to the page on the website - a page I tried to get people
to look at for fixup months ago - but there was no interest in doing
definitely need to be dated and
back issues available.
orcmid comments=more in-line below/
- Dennis
-Original Message-
From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org]
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 06:50
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Terms of Service on Forums
On Tue, Jul 3
On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 12:09 AM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote:
On Tue, 2012-07-03 at 20:11 -0700, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
@Rob,
Yes, I am seeing what you are seeing.
Concerning the ToU for the forums, it is the same as what was previously on
the web site. While there is a license
On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 11:11 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote:
@Rob,
Yes, I am seeing what you are seeing.
Concerning the ToU for the forums, it is the same as what was previously on
the web site. While there is a license grant for non-code and other places
where no
On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 11:11 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote:
@Rob,
Yes, I am seeing what you are seeing.
Concerning the ToU for the forums, it is the same as what was previously
on the web site.
Le mer. 04 juil. 2012 04:44:19 CEST, drew d...@baseanswers.com a écrit :
Yes - it goes to the page on the website - a page I tried to get people
to look at for fixup months ago - but there was no interest in doing so
at the time, and yes as it stands it is just wrong.
Weird, after that
Can someone take ownership of this issue?
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=118939
Look at http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/index.php
Then to the footer and the Policies and Terms of Use.
This links to this page: http://www.openoffice.org/terms_of_use
That starts with
The terms of usage on forum is actually at:
http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/ucp.php?mode=terms
There seems to be no terms of usage o wiki.
It is outdated, but it does not contain any Oracle blah blah blah.
Do we need lawer review for our updated forum term of
On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 4:44 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
Can someone take ownership of this issue?
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=118939
Look at http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/index.php
Then to the footer and the Policies and Terms of Use.
This
On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 8:09 PM, imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw wrote:
The terms of usage on forum is actually at:
http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/ucp.php?mode=terms
So we are pointing to two different terms of use pages on the same
forum? Even the page you point to has the
On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 8:23 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 4:44 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
Can someone take ownership of this issue?
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=118939
Look at
On Tue, 2012-07-03 at 19:44 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
Can someone take ownership of this issue?
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=118939
Look at http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/index.php
Then to the footer and the Policies and Terms of Use.
This links to this
On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 10:18 PM, drew jensen drewjensen.in...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, 2012-07-03 at 19:44 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
Can someone take ownership of this issue?
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=118939
Look at http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/index.php
On Tue, 2012-07-03 at 22:32 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 10:18 PM, drew jensen drewjensen.in...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Tue, 2012-07-03 at 19:44 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
Can someone take ownership of this issue?
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=118939
Look
@Rob,
Yes, I am seeing what you are seeing.
Concerning the ToU for the forums, it is the same as what was previously on the
web site. While there is a license grant for non-code and other places where
no other license is applied, the license is also to all Users.
@Rob, @Drew, @Kay
I created
On Tue, 2012-07-03 at 20:11 -0700, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
@Rob,
Yes, I am seeing what you are seeing.
Concerning the ToU for the forums, it is the same as what was previously on
the web site. While there is a license grant for non-code and other places
where no other license is
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