Hey.
planning to change IP addresses of some servers.
is there any way not to reboot after changing
/etc/hosts,/ets/netmasks,/etc/defaultrouter files?
Plz answer this...
have a good day
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But whoever works on this probably also needs to make sure to include
some binaries optimized with different values for -xvis, -xchip=,
-xcode=, and other options that might use extra
instructions not used by the default makefile rules for Solaris proper.
Possibly tes
Richard L. Hamilton wrote:
Quite right; I've watched firefox shoot up past 300MB VM usage
when it really wasn't doing that much. And I've also seen both
mozilla and firefox generate silly amounts of disk I/O simply
because of animated GIFs being on a page.
Personally, this mostly seems to depe
Girts Zeltins wrote:
Hello,
Does OpenSolaris contains full Solaris included CDE source code?
No, the CDE sources are not included. And based on past discussions,
it's unlikely this is going to change. (Too much work, the other CDE
license holders may not agree anyway, the future is GNOME i
The only plugins that Fluendo offers that are not available for Solaris
are the MPEG-2 and MPEG-4 plugins. These have not yet been ported to
solaris because the Linux versions depend on the IPP (Intel Performance
Primitives) library which is not available for Solaris.
It will be a significant p
Hello,
Does OpenSolaris contains full Solaris included CDE source code?
Thank You.
Kind Regards,
Girts
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> > > For people interested in playing video's on
> > Solaris,
> > > this announcement might be interesting -
> > >
> >
> http://www.fluendo.com/press/releases/PR-2007-01.html
> > >
> >
> > Thanks, but why aren't all the plugins available
> for
> > Solaris?
>
> Don't know actually. Probably be
Stephen Lau wrote:
Gueven Bay wrote:
If there are still closed components/packages(whatever) which are
required to build a distribution, how is(was) it possible to make
Belenix , Schillix and so on, please?
They are closed, but still freely redistributable.
Initially libm was not availabl
Recently, I'm reading 'C Style and Coding Standards for SunOS™'. But I find
it's writen in 1996 and it also refers to the future version of the this
document. I just find the 1996 version of this document on OpenSolaris Quick
Start site. Now I'm wondering where I can find the latest version of t
Some items are still closed because (at least as I understand from
other discussions) Sun doesn't own the rights to release the source
for them; others simply haven't been opened yet.
They are listed at
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/about/no_source/
However, they're a tiny fraction of what makes
I really appreciate your suggestions.
However, I have spent weeks working on Samba 3 and Microsoft Active Directory,
and I am not alone in deciding that Samba 3 is just not up to acting as an AD
replacement. The issues are not just on the server side, but also the client,
and Microsoft has tied
Gueven Bay wrote:
If there are still closed components/packages(whatever) which are required to
build a distribution, how is(was) it possible to make Belenix , Schillix and so
on, please?
They are closed, but still freely redistributable.
How did the makers of these distributions overcome t
If there are still closed components/packages(whatever) which are required to
build a distribution, how is(was) it possible to make Belenix , Schillix and so
on, please?
How did the makers of these distributions overcome the closed nature of these
packages, please?
And maybe a last question: W
You can have an openldap directory behind Samba 3 acting as a PDC...this may be
of help to you: http://en.opensuse.org/Migrate_from_Active_Directory
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On 2/5/07, Bill Quayle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I apologize if this has been discussed, as I am relatively new to this forum.
I would like to create a network of containers under a single global zone. Can
I do this without hitting the physical network?
Depends what you mean by "hit".
Sola
> "Jim" == James Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Jim> I think the handwaving that bothers me is "how would this
Jim> lower-quality (or 'not yet finished') gate be kept sane?"
That's somewhat deliberate on my part.
People who dislike the current ON policies would be in the position to
try
> RMS? GRND... :-)
Yeah right (:-)
The man might be vocal, but he's no law, luckily.
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Below you have the 4 different sections that needs to be present.
I know these works with Sun Java enterprise Directoryserver 5.2
and with Novell E-Directory. I have never tried OpenLdap Server.
These entries are copied from a Solaris 10 /etc/pam.conf file
modified according to the pam_ldap
On Mon, 5 Feb 2007, UNIX admin wrote:
> Who is the supreme authority which decides what is, and what is not "an open
> project"?
RMS? GRND... :-)
--
Rich Teer, SCSA, SCNA, SCSECA, OpenSolaris CAB member
President,
Rite Online Inc.
Voice: +1 (250) 979-1638
URL: http://www.rite-group.com/ric
> I have never meant that - I have said Sun in driver's
> seat of the community train (IOW the key decision
> maker, the one who installs all the pawns and directs
> the pieces and controls the rules of the game) is not
> acceptable for an open project. Sun, in that role,
> cannot be a part of comm
On Fri, 2007-02-02 at 22:16 -0800, Shawn Walker wrote:
> +1, except that the project should be one that is for all items listed on the
> no_source page.
I prefer to see more focussed projects.
The set of people interested in working on a replacement libc_i18n
likely does not intersect much with
> "RL" == Richard Lowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
RL> To be more precise about it. I think I like the idea of the "beta"
RL> workspace you're talking about here, I don't feel it's a substitute
RL> for the primary gate (or the gate a substitute for it), nor another
RL> path through the workfl
James Carlson wrote:
Richard Lowe writes:
The interesting question then is how does code get from this "beta"
workspace to the production-ready gate. Our experience with merges is
that project team does a better job than third parties when it comes to
merging their changes into another workspac
> Certainly we could list enough objectives that we
> could look at this as a
> failure, but as I've pointed out, Sun has made huge
> strides to open the
> sources up and there has been participation from
> folks that have the
> knowledge and skills to do it. Juergen Keil a case in
> point. Even
Richard Lowe writes:
> > The interesting question then is how does code get from this "beta"
> > workspace to the production-ready gate. Our experience with merges is
> > that project team does a better job than third parties when it comes to
> > merging their changes into another workspace. So I
On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 10:04 -0800, Rich Teer wrote:
> In fact, one might argue that had the GNOME project adopted some
> of Sun's "mindless rules" (aka, sound engineering practices),
> issues like this probably wouldn't have arisen in the first place.
>
> Broad-ranging breakages and everything nee
> I think that is a negative way of looking at things.
> It is all about improvements - so if there are less
> Solaris kernel developers the idea should be to
> create more of them and not be complacent about it.
Developers at any cost will not help OpenSolaris. Software development is NOT
like m
On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 09:24 -0800, John Plocher wrote:
>Josh Hurst wrote:
> > JDS doesn't grok Gnome session files from Linux.
>
> Blame this directly on GNOME - their config file formats have
> been wildly unstable between versions, making it difficult to
> reuse them across versions.
That's ri
Mike Kupfer wrote:
"RL" == Richard Lowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
MK> So I suppose someone could propose a project which just takes other
MK> stuff and integrates it for people to play with.
RL> Projects are projects, I don't immediately think I have any specific
RL> problem with a *project*
> "RL" == Richard Lowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
MK> So I suppose someone could propose a project which just takes other
MK> stuff and integrates it for people to play with.
RL> Projects are projects, I don't immediately think I have any specific
RL> problem with a *project* that pulls in c
Ian Collins wrote:
Ben Rockwood wrote:
Provisional -1.
I think this would be too granular. I'd like to see a rational for why this
needs to be an OpenSolaris project. Xfce is developed in its own community
setting already, creating a project here would constitute a fork, or parallel
fo
On 2/5/07, UNIX admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think that maybe x86 *is* the main area where we
> need help
> from device driver writers who have done the
> compatibility
> heavy lifting for Linux already.
>
> Is there a licensing problem in getting their work
> onto Open
> Solaris for x64/
> I think that maybe x86 *is* the main area where we
> need help
> from device driver writers who have done the
> compatibility
> heavy lifting for Linux already.
>
> Is there a licensing problem in getting their work
> onto Open
> Solaris for x64/x86?
The most bizzarre part is the fact that Linu
Alan Coopersmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Doug Scott wrote:
> > Xorg, keeps on going and going. You exit firefox, and Xorg does not return
> > the memory.
>
> Xorg uses standard UNIX malloc, so memory won't be returned to the OS upon
> free, just to the free space list in the Xorg heap, unles
Quite right; I've watched firefox shoot up past 300MB VM usage
when it really wasn't doing that much. And I've also seen both
mozilla and firefox generate silly amounts of disk I/O simply
because of animated GIFs being on a page.
Doesn't matter who compiled it, or even whose libs (Sun's vs blastw
On Mon, 5 Feb 2007, John Plocher wrote:
> > JDS doesn't grok Gnome session files from Linux.
>
> Blame this directly on GNOME - their config file formats have
> been wildly unstable between versions, making it difficult to
> reuse them across versions. IMHO, GNOME was not designed to work
> in a
Thank eric (and steve) for yours important post.This should encourage to clear
some doubts.
Giacomo
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Josh Hurst wrote:
Why is it required to remove .so and lint libraries? You don't do that
for X11 even when the API is not public.
Please see the architectural policy on libraries at
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/arc/policies/libraries/
In particular, note W2 and W3 in that document.
>> Unless everyone stopped contributing to the OpenSolaris project and
>> rehosted themselves over to the fork, the fork maintainers will be
>> forced to either ignore the OpenSolaris changes, or spend more and
>> more time resyncing their fork - neither of which is long-term
>> feasible. Sure, s
Just thought I'd give my 2 cents on the topic of project proposal
acceptability...
Per governance policy (as stevel pointed out) a project space on
opensolaris.org is really easy to get. (In the spirit of "innovation often
happens elsewhere" is the way I like to think it came about.) Therefore we
Doug Scott wrote:
Xorg, keeps on going and going. You exit firefox, and Xorg does not return
the memory.
Xorg uses standard UNIX malloc, so memory won't be returned to the OS upon
free, just to the free space list in the Xorg heap, unless it was a shared
memory pixmap that was attached to and
Josh Hurst wrote:
Few examples:
Why is it required to remove .so and lint libraries? You don't do that
for X11 even when the API is not public.
What private API's does X11 provide .so & lint libraries for? I can't
think of any.
Why is is necessary to demand the removal of diff files from the
The keyboard goes completely dead. No response, nothing. I'm not using a KVM.
My mouse and kb are connected directly to the box. I'm going to try and mount a
USB thumb drive and see if that goes down as well.
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> Do we have a test suite for what we have in libc_i18n.a? If so, we
> should make that available or at leat have someone who can run it
> against anything the project produces.
I'll see what we can do.
Jim
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Lars,
Thanks for the reply. Do you have a sample pam.conf that I can take a look at
please? I specifically need SSH access and password policies from LDAP server
to be applied at the client. I have this working from Linux using
OpenLDAP-2.3.31 (with ppolicy), pam_ldap-182 and OpenSSH-4.5p1.
Pr
> Few examples:
> Linux+Gnome is much faster than Solaris+JDS on the
> same AMD hardware.
> JDS+Solaris needs more memory than Linux+Gnome (same
> hardware). 512MB
> are enough for Linux, Solaris starts swapping after a
> few hours of
> usage and doesn't stop until swap is full. JDS
> doesn't grok
Frank Hofmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > But more importantly this was never about accepting any and all changes
> > - it was about making it better for people to propose changes and people
> > to review it and then accept the quality ones. >
>
> The review/integration process on Linux can be
> Sun and may even explain the degradation of quality
> once Sun tries to
> ship it (re: JDS versus normal Gnome) but this is
> hardly appropriate
> for an Open Source project.
I fail to understand why OpenSolaris would have to behave as some other open
source projects. Why must we mimic the Linu
Josh Hurst writes:
> Few examples:
> Why is it required to remove .so and lint libraries?
We're currently discussing it. The issue is that the libraries in
question are _NOT_ documented, and are not guaranteed any sort of
stability to those building separate applications.
As they're not document
James Carlson wrote:
Alan Burlison writes:
Simon Phipps wrote:
As with any democratic process, we won't know the answer until the
votes have been counted ;-)
Totally agree. I'm glad I don't have to vote yet because I don't know
which way I would vote.
When this discuss
> No sir. They do not accept Solaris because firstly
> they believe freedom is priceless and that a
> for-profit company in drivers seat driving things the
> deem fit, there cannot be freedom and no one likes to
> work for free for somebody else's cause. Secondly
> most use x86 and Solaris won't wo
I apologize if this has been discussed, as I am relatively new to this forum.
I would like to create a network of containers under a single global zone. Can
I do this without hitting the physical network?
I envision the ability to create virtual routers and switches, allowing one to
create thi
I think it's just that the X server sometimes is confused by the
mouse going offline and coming back online. If I restart the X server,
everything is fine (although realistically that sometimes means switching
the kvm again to the other system, so that I can come in over the
network and kill dtses
I have found that adding "-client" to the command line that starts eclipse
solves all my problems with crashing on Solaris express. The server VM which my
machine defaults to based on the amount of RAM and processors does not seem to
work well with Eclipse.
I have found this to be true with ja
Alan Burlison writes:
> Simon Phipps wrote:
>
> >> As with any democratic process, we won't know the answer until the
> >> votes have been counted ;-)
> >
> > Totally agree. I'm glad I don't have to vote yet because I don't know
> > which way I would vote.
>
> When this discussion started I wa
Q. OpenSolaris success?
- Success is when open source developers see
OpenSolaris as the #1 or #2 choice for any UNIX
development or most embeddable projects involving a
UNIX-based OS.
- When people start wearing OpenSolaris T-shirts
during halftime at the Super Bowl. Need a cool
OpenSolaris comme
On Sat, 3 Feb 2007, S Destika wrote:
Well there is only one Linux the kernel which Linus releases. All other
changes are development branches and eventually all acceptable stuff
gets merged in mainline. I don't think you understand how Linux
development works at all.
"eventually all acceptable
James Carlson wrote:
As to the larger point, I don't necessarily agree that "every" review
needs to go through a central repository. That sort of process just
doesn't scale well, particularly for something as large as ON. The
reviews get lost in the noise. Instead, for small changes, I find on
Q. OpenSolaris success?
A. (my version)
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oug Scott wrote:
> For you who don't know, Xfce is a lightweight
desktop built using the
gtk+ libraries.
> Currently there is a very old verion of Xfce as part
of the companion
CD with no owner.
> I am proposing to move the development to a project
within the
Desktop Community,
> where it shares
I was think initially of the windows CE space, rather
than the embedded
Linux one.
If not, is there enough interest for an embeddable
Open Solaris
project?
Cheers,
Ian
--
+1...
Ken Mays
Ok, so how about an unrestricted SPARCv8 disassembler (for NetBSD)
as a starting point?
http://www.users.qwest.net/~eballen1/source.html
wide open, not GPL.
There's also something at
http://www.eecs.harvard.edu/~nr/toolkit/
but I see no mention of a license, and it looks very unconventional in
ta
However I have been very anxiously awaiting Samba 4 that is the only version
that can replace Active Directory - but it is still ages away.
I am after something that can extract all data from AD - and then be used as a
Domain Controller instead of a Windows Server.
I did some more searching
>"W. Wayne Liauh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> >Power Management on x2?
>> > --Bob
>>
>> Sun's developers continue to amaze me in a big way. A few months ago, the
>> system would get so h
ot that you couldn't run Solaris/X86 on a laptop w/o also installing Casper's
frkit script. With
> Doug Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Peter FELECAN wrote:
> >> Doug Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >>
> >>
> >>> For you who don't know, Xfce is a lightweight
> desktop built using the gtk+ libraries.
> >>> Currently there is a very old verion of Xfce as
> part of the companion C
Josh Hurst wrote:
On 2/5/07, James C. McPherson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
...
Ok Josh, how about you provide detail on which of those "rules"
Sun is suddenly pushing forward, and why they are mindless. If
they truly are "mindless" then it would be really good for other
people to find out why.
John Plocher wrote:
Unless everyone stopped contributing to the OpenSolaris project and
rehosted themselves over to the fork, the fork maintainers will be
forced to either ignore the OpenSolaris changes, or spend more and
more time resyncing their fork - neither of which is long-term
feasible.
"W. Wayne Liauh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Power Management on x2?
> > --Bob
>
> Sun's developers continue to amaze me in a big way. A few months ago, the
> system would get so hot that you couldn't run Solaris/X86 on a laptop w/o
> also installing Casper's frkit script. With Build 5
"Josh Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 2/5/07, Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > "Josh Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > > Hmmm, how did JDS/gnome come up here??? Since it has, I assume
> > > > you don't like the look & feel of JDS, and would prefer Gnome. This
> > > >
>Power Management on x2?
> --Bob
Sun's developers continue to amaze me in a big way. A few months ago, the
system would get so hot that you couldn't run Solaris/X86 on a laptop w/o also
installing Casper's frkit script. With Build 56 on a Turion64 (HP ze2000e), my
wattage meter reads 17
Alan Coopersmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Alan Hargreaves wrote:
> > There are currently two components that are needed before one can do an
> > open build. The first one is one that has been talked a lot about, the
> > other is only required on SPARC, that is the sparc disassembler.
>
> Doe
> Few examples:
> Linux+Gnome is much faster than Solaris+JDS on the
> same AMD hardware.
> JDS+Solaris needs more memory than Linux+Gnome (same
> hardware). 512MB
> are enough for Linux, Solaris starts swapping after a
> few hours of
> usage and doesn't stop until swap is full. JDS
> doesn't grok
>Close, or at least this will get you 98% of the way there.
>
>But whoever works on this probably also needs to make sure to include
>some binaries optimized with different values for -xvis, -xchip=,
>-xcode=, and other options that might use extra
>instructions not used by the default makefil
Doug Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Peter FELECAN wrote:
>> Doug Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>>
>>> For you who don't know, Xfce is a lightweight desktop built using the gtk+
>>> libraries.
>>> Currently there is a very old verion of Xfce as part of the companion CD
>>> with no
On 2/5/07, Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
"Josh Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hmmm, how did JDS/gnome come up here??? Since it has, I assume
> > you don't like the look & feel of JDS, and would prefer Gnome. This
> > is a subjective view rather than a "degradation of quality"
"Josh Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hmmm, how did JDS/gnome come up here??? Since it has, I assume
> > you don't like the look & feel of JDS, and would prefer Gnome. This
> > is a subjective view rather than a "degradation of quality" or inappropriate
> > for a Open Source project.
>
> Few
>Unless everyone stopped contributing to the OpenSolaris project and
>rehosted themselves over to the fork, the fork maintainers will be
>forced to either ignore the OpenSolaris changes, or spend more and
>more time resyncing their fork - neither of which is long-term
>feasible. Sure, some would
On 2/5/07, Doug Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 2/2/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > >And how far have the star or ksh projects
> progressed? The last one
> > >appears to be in serious trouble now because Sun
> has to complain about
> > >every little detail and the
Bryan Cantrill wrote:
And again, a derivative of both could still resolve the divergence.
The problem comes when, under a dual-license, the fork becomes unresolvable
because the forks are licensed differently. Such a fork would force
each member of the OpenSolaris community to choose one or the
On 2/5/07, James C. McPherson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Josh Hurst wrote:
> On 2/2/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> >And how far have the star or ksh projects progressed? The last one
>> >appears to be in serious trouble now because Sun has to complain about
>> >every littl
"Stefan Teleman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This can be done right now, without any involvement with a GPL dual
> license, solely under CDDL.
>
> This hypothetical competitor can take the current OpenSolaris, under
> CDDL, set up an open development environment somewhere, and purposely
> and exp
"Ignacio Marambio Catán" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i still see no benefit in dual licensing but i'm trying to be unbiased here
> isn't most of that already possible now? the only difference is that
> the gplv3-only news would give them a little short lived publicity and
> opensolaris would not
I debug a small application with mdb, I wanna watch the address and value of a
variable.
The define of this variable is:
char a_ch[100];
I have added -g flag at build time.
But a mdb error occur:
# mdb -p 1321
> a_ch/W
mdb: failed to dereference symbol: unknown symbol name
Another error is:
> ::p
Gary:
My keyboard is 100% dead at that point. The only way to get it back is to
unplug and plug it back in.
You mean your keyboard/mouse sometimes automatically becomes dead? I met
similar problem a year ago, but haven't encountered it for long. The
cause is still unknown since it is hard to
Richard L. Hamilton:
Probably not related, but my mouse goes offline all the time when
I switch my cheap little KVM. Usually it comes back when I switch, but
sometimes the offlining of the mouse messes up the X server and it doesn't
pick it up again without restarting the X server.
When you sw
John Plocher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Some enterprising team immediately forks and strips off the
> CDDL license, making a pure GPLv3 version of OpenSolaris/ON.
>
> 2 weeks later, OpenSolaris/ON Build x+1 comes out
> (or the Hg repository gate is updated or ...)
> and
> On 2/2/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > >And how far have the star or ksh projects
> progressed? The last one
> > >appears to be in serious trouble now because Sun
> has to complain about
> > >every little detail and the star project makes
> either zero progress or
> > >
Doug Scott wrote:
For you who don't know, Xfce is a lightweight desktop built using the gtk+
libraries.
Currently there is a very old verion of Xfce as part of the companion CD with
no owner.
I am proposing to move the development to a project within the Desktop
Community,
where it shares many
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