Re: [osol-discuss] [distribution-discuss] SchilliX-0.7.0 ready for testing

2010-07-25 Thread HeCSa
On 07/24/10 11:09 AM, Martin Bochnig wrote: 2010/7/24 C. Bergströmcodest...@osunix.org: Joerg Schilling wrote: C. Bergströmcodest...@osunix.org wrote: Did you pull the libc work from Garrett and drop that on there? No, I just created a halfway clean base for

Re: [osol-discuss] SchilliX-0.7.0 ready for testing

2010-07-25 Thread Stefan Parvu
This is not an IPS issue; this is a distribution issue. Remember that all of the bits on pkg.opensolaris.org have been redistributable for a long time. That means that if someone wanted a mirror in say, Finland, they could have set one up. For that matter, one could have been setup on genunix.org

Re: [osol-discuss] SchilliX-0.7.0 ready for testing

2010-07-25 Thread HeCSa
On 07/24/10 08:23 PM, Shawn Walker wrote: On 07/24/10 04:17 PM, Ian Collins wrote: On 07/25/10 10:27 AM, Shawn Walker wrote: On 07/24/10 06:37 AM, Moinak Ghosh wrote: ... To stir the pot here, since we are discussing a Community Distro as opposed to a SUN/Oracle distro, IPS when used

Re: [osol-discuss] SchilliX-0.7.0 ready for testing

2010-07-25 Thread John Plocher
On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 11:50 PM, Stefan Parvu wrote: IPS tries to be a network pkg management system. It needs to be simple ... list of good ideas ... These are all things that could easily be addressed, and aren't per-se reasons to abandon IPS. If it was important, these things could be

Re: [osol-discuss] Community distro

2010-07-25 Thread HeCSa
On 07/17/10 01:38 PM, Alasdair Lumsden wrote: On 17 Jul 2010, at 16:35, Paul Gress wrote: On 07/17/10 09:07 AM, Ken Mays wrote: Ken, what you say make a lot of sense. But when I look at those community distributions I don't see what I'm exactly looking for. So I guess I going to try to

Re: [osol-discuss] SchilliX-0.7.0 ready for testing

2010-07-25 Thread Stefan Parvu
True. Im not reffering here as a drop of IPS but rather as a understanding point for future and how this compares against SVR4. Anyway for future community distro , if any, would be good if we can keep one pkg management system and be compatible between distros. IPS should have fixed all these

Re: [osol-discuss] SchilliX-0.7.0 ready for testing

2010-07-25 Thread Joerg Schilling
Stefan Parvu stefanparv...@yahoo.com wrote: True. Im not reffering here as a drop of IPS but rather as a understanding point for future and how this compares against SVR4. Anyway for future community distro , if any, would be good if we can keep one pkg management system and be

Re: [osol-discuss] SchilliX-0.7.0 ready for testing

2010-07-25 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
today, I put SchilliX-0.7.0 out. ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schillix/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schillix/SchilliX-0.7.0.iso.bz2 Joerg, I'm going to recommend xz instead of (or in addition to) bzip2. It's much faster and compresses better. My experience is 2x faster and 2x better

Re: [osol-discuss] SchilliX-0.7.0 ready for testing

2010-07-25 Thread Stefan Parvu
Star-1.5.1 is also available from Blastwave. The star on SchilliX has one new feature: 1) create a meta data only archive with star -c -dump -meta . arch 2) extraxt the archive uwing star -xp -xmeta -force-hole arch in order to create all plain files as 100% empty holes New is the

Re: [osol-discuss] Community distro

2010-07-25 Thread Stefan Parvu
It may even be seek times are the main problem... True. Too much concurrency on spinning platters can cause seek time bottlenecks. Possibly an iostat log during boot can provide some clues. If true then the situation will be better with SSDs. We have DTrace and we might

Re: [osol-discuss] SchilliX-0.7.0 ready for testing

2010-07-25 Thread Rob McMahon
On 24/07/2010 23:27, Shawn Walker wrote: The version of pkg(5) that will be part of b144 should deliver somewhere around a 20% or greater performance improvement in transport performance when used with a properly configured web and/or depot server. Do you know how frustrating it is when

Re: [osol-discuss] VLC building help

2010-07-25 Thread Gary Gendel
Thanks everyone... I opted to use the SJT packages and got things working. Since I'm only going to use this for transcoding I wasn't too concerned that it isn't the latest version. Mixing g++ and Sun Studio compiled library dependencies was very problematic in getting things working. I

Re: [osol-discuss] Community distro

2010-07-25 Thread Ken Mays
To: Hernán Saltiel Community User Groups The community needs resources to maintain the components updated by the various teams. For the upcoming Hackathon and user meetings, users interested in building a 'community distro' or providing support for it should know where to look for help. The

Re: [osol-discuss] SchilliX-0.7.0 ready for testing

2010-07-25 Thread HeCSa
On 07/24/10 07:51 PM, Rob McMahon wrote: On 24/07/2010 23:27, Shawn Walker wrote: The version of pkg(5) that will be part of b144 should deliver somewhere around a 20% or greater performance improvement in transport performance when used with a properly configured web and/or depot

Re: [osol-discuss] Community distro

2010-07-25 Thread HeCSa
Hi, Ken! This *really* help us! Thanks a lot, I'll start contacting the referred POC's. Best regards, HeCSa. On 07/25/10 01:44 PM, Ken Mays wrote: To: Hernán Saltiel Community User Groups The community needs resources to maintain the components updated by the various teams. For the upcoming

Re: [osol-discuss] [xen-discuss] Xen EOF?

2010-07-25 Thread Justin Lee Ewing
Those are good points. I'm not opposed to going with Oracle VM but keeping Xvm in Solaris would have allowed so many more consolidation opportunities. We were looking to replace a pair of clustered V880s with 12 shared D2 arrays stuffed with 72GB disks and other various servers (clustered for

Re: [osol-discuss] I hope we also get a welcome mat at openworld.

2010-07-25 Thread HeCSa
On 07/20/10 02:18 PM, Edward Martinez wrote: Well i guess the MySQL guys fears are now put to rest. I do hope Opensolaris community also gets a welcome mat at OpenWorld. crossing my fingers! extract: Oracle is rolling out the welcome mat for the MySQL community as part of Oracle OpenWorld.

Re: [osol-discuss] Problem with snv_134 networking in zones

2010-07-25 Thread Thor Sigurdsson
And you determined this how? Can you show any dtrace output, or similar? Determined by stopping one zone and testing connectivity from global+remaining zone. Starting zone again and repeat. I think you might be confusing simpler with familiar. I tnking your'e making an assumption without

Re: [osol-discuss] SchilliX-0.7.0 ready for testing

2010-07-25 Thread Shawn Walker
On 07/24/10 11:55 PM, HeCSa wrote: ... On 07/24/10 08:23 PM, Shawn Walker wrote: ... The source is there, and you can build it you know ;) Alternatively, you could use the bits someone made available on genunix.org for b142: http://genunix.org/dist/richlowe/README.txt

Re: [osol-discuss] SchilliX-0.7.0 ready for testing

2010-07-25 Thread Shawn Walker
On 07/24/10 03:51 PM, Rob McMahon wrote: On 24/07/2010 23:27, Shawn Walker wrote: The version of pkg(5) that will be part of b144 should deliver somewhere around a 20% or greater performance improvement in transport performance when used with a properly configured web and/or depot server. Do

Re: [osol-discuss] SchilliX-0.7.0 ready for testing

2010-07-25 Thread HeCSa
On 07/25/10 06:27 PM, Shawn Walker wrote: On 07/24/10 11:55 PM, HeCSa wrote: ... On 07/24/10 08:23 PM, Shawn Walker wrote: ... The source is there, and you can build it you know ;) Alternatively, you could use the bits someone made available on genunix.org for b142:

Re: [osol-discuss] [xen-discuss] Xen EOF?

2010-07-25 Thread Volker A. Brandt
Hi Matthias! Looking at the fact, that OVM is free, and has a way better graphical management system, and also comes with already predefined Images, I don't see that many problems. Well, I don't care much about GUI management systems, I care about scripts. Who would really be using ZFS in

Re: [osol-discuss] I hope we also get a welcome mat at openworld.

2010-07-25 Thread Edward Martinez
On 07/20/10 02:18 PM, Edward Martinez wrote: Well i guess the MySQL guys fears are now put to rest. I do hope Opensolaris community also gets a welcome mat at OpenWorld. crossing my fingers! extract: Oracle is rolling out the welcome mat for the MySQL community as part of Oracle

[osol-discuss] Virtualization on solaris/opensolaris

2010-07-25 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
Suppose you want to use solaris/opensolaris as a VM host, and Windows Server as a guest. What would be the preferred hypervisor to use? Sun Virtualbox? It is desired to start the guest when the host boots up. And vice-versa for shutdown. I see that sol10/osol are not supported host OSes for

[osol-discuss] opensolaris vs schillix etc

2010-07-25 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
I am wondering ... SchilliX is being built, using the same procedures and source as opensolaris, right? What differences are there / will there be, between opensolaris and schillix? I am speaking technical differences. Obviously there will also be cultural differences, and that's not the

Re: [osol-discuss] Virtualization on solaris/opensolaris

2010-07-25 Thread HeCSa
Hi, Edward! On 07/25/10 11:22 PM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: Suppose you want to use solaris/opensolaris as a VM host, and Windows Server as a guest. What would be the preferred hypervisor to use? Sun Virtualbox? It is desired to start the guest when the host boots up. And vice-versa for

Re: [osol-discuss] Virtualization on solaris/opensolaris

2010-07-25 Thread Jorgen Lundman
We've run XEN here on b134 very successfully, and it came with opensolaris (or at least, you can just go 'pkg install $module'. We ran b134 as the dom0, and we tested: osol_119 osol_134 Sol 10u8 centos_5.3 Windows 7 FreeBSD 7.2 Win2k3_srv ubuntu 9.10 as domU. The production test

Re: [osol-discuss] SchilliX-0.7.0 ready for testing

2010-07-25 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Stefan Parvu wrote: How IPS handles the process of applying patched ? AFAIK OSOL does not really have the concept of a patch, right ? Or ? Right - IPS simply has new versions of packages, in which the packaging system determines which files are different from what you've already installed

Re: [osol-discuss] SchilliX-0.7.0 ready for testing

2010-07-25 Thread Alan Coopersmith
HeCSa wrote: On 07/24/10 07:51 PM, Rob McMahon wrote: On 24/07/2010 23:27, Shawn Walker wrote: The version of pkg(5) that will be part of b144 should deliver somewhere around a 20% or greater performance improvement in transport performance when used with a properly configured web

[osol-discuss] SoftwareFreedomDay 2010 on Sep 18th

2010-07-25 Thread Masafumi Ohta
Hi, Are you planning to do some for celebrating softwarefreedomday 2010? if any plans,please reply on this osol mailing lists. http://softwarefreedomday.org/ thanks, -masafumi Lead of Tokyo OpenSolaris User Group. Core Contributer for OpenSolaris.

Re: [osol-discuss] Virtualization on solaris/opensolaris

2010-07-25 Thread Masafumi Ohta
(2010/07/26 11:40), Jorgen Lundman wrote: We've run XEN here on b134 very successfully, and it came with opensolaris (or at least, you can just go 'pkg install $module'. We ran b134 as the dom0, and we tested: osol_119 osol_134 Sol 10u8 centos_5.3 Windows 7 FreeBSD 7.2 Win2k3_srv ubuntu 9.10

Re: [osol-discuss] [xen-discuss] Xen EOF?

2010-07-25 Thread Dave Koelmeyer
Don't know about that. Dtrace is certainly useful to detect bottlenecks in VM setup and configuration. Now that there are rumours that Bryan Cantrill has left Oracle, the future development of dtrace is not clear, anyway. This particular rumour is very much true:

Re: [osol-discuss] SoftwareFreedomDay 2010 on Sep 18th

2010-07-25 Thread HeCSa
On 07/26/10 12:35 AM, Masafumi Ohta wrote: Hi, Are you planning to do some for celebrating softwarefreedomday 2010? if any plans,please reply on this osol mailing lists. Hi, my friend! Yes, we do. Today AOSUG and CaFeLUG (Capital Federal GNU/Linux Users Group) had a meeting about