This sounds like a job DTrace! [FX: sounds of feverish typing]
:-)
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On Fri, 1 Jul 2005, Keith M Wesolowski wrote:
> questions, but the wheels of lawyers spin slowly.
Of course--they probably charge by the hour...
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ris, we're used to modular kernels that load only
the modules they require right now, without all that messy
kernel compilation. ;-) (Disk space is cheap to counter your
other point.)
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reedom than the GPL, not less.
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en protected by your screensaver/lock if you wander
> away). Although I think the consensus then was that at it should at
Sounds like an ideal use for my "lock" program that I'll be releasing
any day now. Under the CDDL, of course!
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why complain? If you want
bash, use bash! Meanwhile, I'll carry on using ksh, and we'll
both be happy. Choice is good.
> How about linking the command editing library
> that is used in zoneadm and other tools into /bin/sh ?
Because then it would no longer the Bourne Shell.
ng the cursor.)
> > y reasons, but as a user, I make my shell /bin/bash.
>
> I suspect everybody does so why not just make this
You suspect wrongly. Many of us prefer ksh.
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ot in my shared professional
working environment) is install a .profile for root that runs
ksh, because I like the features ksh has over sh. Do I find this
any great hardship? No.
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it. There isn't any.
Is there a section that demands that cursor keys are supported?
> And is Solaris bourne shell really POSIX compliant now? It
> wasn't traditionally and you needed ksh or xpg4 sh
> for that.
That is true. But the point about backwards compatibility
still
great to hear. Perhaps they could persuade their colleagues
in the NFS camp to do likewise... ;-)
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's why I don't do it.
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On Mon, 11 Jul 2005, Sunil wrote:
> that's what I end up doing...although its beyond me why safe mode doesn't
> have bash.
Repeat after me: Solaris is not Linux...
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means they care.
Right. But we're talking specifically about an emergancy use only
environment, that's cut down to a minimum for a variety of reasons.
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ave true Bourne SHell
behaviour like it does on Solaris? You'd probably say "Linux is not
Solaris".
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> wanting linux? your logic disgusts me and I am gonna stop now.
That's a pity; I thought we were making progress understanding each
others' point of view...
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r an OSI-approved
license. How else would you measure openness?
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ion community
is desirable, the constituents being those inteersted in writing
docs. The result of their efforts (i.e., the docs) would largely
live elsewhere (in other communities).
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John wrote:
> Am I the only one that doesn't like the --something-or-other options
> of GNU related software? Please don't do this to Solaris!
No, you're not alone!
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ry. :-)
Just out of curiosity, why do you say that (for Blastwave at least)?
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form-neutral device driver community. Issues like
OBP aside, I don't see why a driver for x86 can't be targetted for
SPARC and other platforms, and vice versa.
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t understand what an environment is. Can anyone just tell
> me the commands to type in the terminal to get me started?
I'm working on such a document, but it's nowhere near ready for
external consumption. But the Developers Guide should contain
enough hints to get you going.
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On Sat, 23 Jul 2005, Garett Spalo wrote:
> Anyone got any packages for Laptop Power Management, or just Power Management
> in general?
Casper blogged about the availability of the APIC stuff recently.
Give that a try (in my experience, it works well).
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about 90 minutes on my Ferrari (2 GHz
Athalon64 Mobile CPU, 2GB RAM, Hitachi 60 GB 7200 RPM drive)!
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Hi all,
A quick question for you: what definition of BFU came first:
Blindingly Fast Upgrade, or Bonwick Faulkner Upgrade? Just
curious.
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I still don't think its a good idea.
Persoanlly, I don't even have /usr/ucb in my PATH.
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On Sun, 31 Jul 2005, Dennis Clarke wrote:
> down anytime soon. I feel that Rich Teer would be hunkering into his
> chair and saying to himself "ha, Dennis has another opinion breaking
> out of the gates, this will be good!"
You know me too well, my friend!
When Dennis wri
t the same time. Hrm...
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> "OpenSolaris Laptop Community"
[Details snipped]
+1
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On Thu, 11 Aug 2005, Shawn Walker wrote:
> It's a Dell Inspiron 9300. The main devices I care about are the Intel
> Pro Wireless 2200B Chipset (Centrino), SigmTel C-Major Audio, and the
OK, I'll bite. WHy not a Ferrari or something better supported by SOlaris?
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rom
installing OpenSolaris on your own mahcine, and playing with the
source there?
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ailable in a unified location and format
> would be very helpful
I think that will be "Solaris Internals, 2nd Edition". :-)
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oesn't have
that restriction.
And putting it even more basically: choice is good!
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me people might prefer more or less integration (see the vim sub-thread
from a a couple of days ago): one distro for all the bells and whistles,
and onother for more basic needs.
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On Wed, 17 Aug 2005, Dennis Clarke wrote:
> On 8/17/05, Rich Teer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Thu, 18 Aug 2005, Ian Collins wrote:
> >
> > > True, but is duplication?
>
> I am entirely happy with the decision by Sun management to bring in
> Steve Chris
merely that the license be
> modified to be GPL compatible.
Personally, I think the GPL should be modified to be CDDL compatible.
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, that's how I've interpreted your comments--and I also agree
with your assertion that it is the GPL that is the problem, not
CDDL.
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But getting back to the main point: I don't think we're ever going
to agree on SW licensing philosophy, but I don't think there's any
way that OpenSolaris can be icensed under the GPL. The need and/or
desire to link with 3rd party code that may or may not be open source
prev
Was that big enough? :-)
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mmercial SW, Linux will slowly fade and Solaris will retake
the datacentre. Well, that's my $0.02...
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ls as much as possible, the intent
being that the CAB mailing list archives serve as "notes".
That said, we *are* having a conference call tomorrow, to hammer out
the remaining details of the first draft of the Charter, after which
it'll be posted (on cab-discuss, IIRC) for comments
; to see things first hand.
Early discussions on this topic are already happening, on the mktg-discuss
list IIRC. I too would like to see a "SolarisCon".
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uase I DO
think that that email announcements for this sort of thing are useful),
WITHOUT adding to the alreadey-too-busy osol-discuss.
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Hi all,
With the traffic that's being generated by the lack of recent source
announcements, I think an osol-announce list would be useful. Such
a list would contain the announcements people find useful, with adding
to the already-overburdened osol-discuss.
Comments, thoughts?
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article I wrote
on my home page.
> Is OpenSolaris still binary compatible to Solaris 10? Would it be
> possible to copy the Fujitsu binary modules from Solaris 10 over to a
> OpenSolaris installation, making the system bootable?
It will "probably" work.
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On Thu, 25 Aug 2005, Felix Schulte wrote:
> But I *need* 64bit gear (64bit kernel)
OK, in that case look atthe Ultra 30, Ulra 2, Ultra 5 or Ultra 10.
All of those should be within the range of the impoverished student,
and all will run S10 in 64-bit mode.
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moderated list (althogh who would moderate it
is a good question!), to make sure that it stays on track.
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On Wed, 24 Aug 2005, Bart Smaalders wrote:
> Ultra 60s are often available for less than $100 on Ebay
> w/ graphics cards.
That cheap? WOw, that would definately be the best bet. I have a
dual 450 MHz Ultra 60 myself (which was only recently replaced by a
dual 900 MHz SB 1000).
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org, an RSS feed, and the comp.sys.sun.announce
newsgroup (as well as other useful venues). That way, the news is made
available in a format that people would like to digest it in.
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; just 1 or 2 emails a day. (I'd volunteer.)
I think I must have missed Simon's email--can someone please remind me
of what it said?
I know that he proposed a moderated CAB list, but the announcement list
I'm proposing is something quite different.
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On Fri, 26 Aug 2005, Mike Kupfer wrote:
> Question for the wider community: how important is access to the
> tarballs from prior deliveries?
IMO having them is desirable, but not super high priority.
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by some
entity other than Sun. I just hope that, unlike NFS, they get it
right this time... ;-)
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1. Companies can contribute proprietory code, safe in the knowledege
that they can keep their IP to themselves.
2. Individuals who want their contributions to be open, yet don't want
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the ways to counter.
But Sun is doing just that; that's what the CAB is for. And we're
included in the conversation Sun's development process team is having
about how to move the code to a more open development model.
It's not a quick process, and it's not an easy one. But
between Sun "forcing
things" upon people and Linus doing the same?
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can make
things happen, and they DO support us. Rome wasn't built in a day,
so please, give us time and the benefit of the doubt. Sometimes the
wheels of change turn slower than we'd like, but doesn't necessarily
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y one! :-)
Seriously, stick around and add your input. It's much easier to guide
a process towards your desires if you're part of the process. And more
productive than not doing so and whining about the result afterwards! :-)
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of
data and burning disk(s), so looky-loos will be less disinclined to try it.
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ery different
> places on the complexity/completeness spectrum.
>
> ... the complete source tree (implies OpenSolaris + distro
> specific bits)
>
> ... a build environment that let me rebuild exactly the
> bootable system above.
>
> ... d
pliers.
Looks like a standard legal disclaimer to me, and about as meaningful
and useful as those stupoid disclaimers many people have in their
signatures (no doubt their corporate lawyers told them to do that too).
But, (thankfully) IANAL, so take with as much salt as you deem necessary... :-)
-
re (e.g., California) to protect
my rights in a court of law. A better example would be Casper, who lives in
the Netherlands. Why can't he, as the author of a piece of CDDL-licensed code,
chose the venue for lawsuits?
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;re suggesting, we'd have no choice but to go to Santa Clara (say).
At least with the CDDL as it currently stands, you, as the original
author, get to chose the venue for any lawsuits. I'm betting you'd pick
pick Sweden over Santa Clara anytime. :-)
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, I think you'll find that most often, it is the person
who starts the suit that gets to pick venue.
> Well. but if the UK then refuse to aknowledge the Swedish judgement, what have
> you gained ?
Huh? I'm, hoping the Swedish authorities will enforce the judgement.
But I think y
properly?
Agreed. It could be that this is all just an innocent misunderstanding.
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And I KNOW
I must've been amongst the first handful coz I was hitting refresh
every few seconds right up to the launch and clicked on the T shirt
icon as soon as it appeared!
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It's called slashdot.org... ;-)
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on the Solaris DVDs/CDs as
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On Wed, 14 Sep 2005, Richard L. Hamilton wrote:
> Get it yet? Please let me know when you do; I'm still waiting...
You and me both. :-(
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question is
>
> "Are OpenSolaris and Solaris 11 the same ?"
The answer is much the same (forgetting for th emoment that there's
no such thing as S11 just yet!). S11 will be a distro based on
OpenSolaris, and will no doubt have Sun value-added bits.
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On Wed, 14 Sep 2005, Richard L. Hamilton wrote:
> Get it yet? Please let me know when you do; I'm still waiting...
My T-shirt (finally) arrived today! Hopefully my Pilot Program
stuff isn't far behind...
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Solaris 10 is the only OS that comes
near to saturating a 10 GBE link.
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GNOME, is to get GNOME from www.blastwave.org.
HTH,
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The Ultra does indeed have a 64-bit processor, but it is NOT x64.
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een booting
on N CPUs, and using those N CPUs effectively such that the throughput
with N CPUs is very close to N * T, where T is the throughput of 1 CPU.
So if N is 512, but the throughput is only 200 * T, I'd argue that that
OS doesn't scale very well.
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ire a Dysan Sphere sized data center! :-)
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could always attache
one of those RJ45 to WiFi adaptors to it. That device would
transparantly convert from hme to Wifi (no additional drivers
required). Probably not quite what you're looking for, but
maybe an acceptable compromise...
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On Thu, 27 Oct 2005, Sean Sprague wrote:
> LKR has recently told us about the record performance of
> Studio 11. I would very much like to cut down my current
> 12-hour+ build time for OpenSolaris (OK, I should buy some
12+ hours?! WTF are you using man, an abacus?!
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On Thu, 27 Oct 2005, Derek Cicero wrote:
> It looks like there are no objections to the creation of this community
> at this point. Do we have any +1 votes from the CAB?
+1 from me.
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m Mauro and Richard McDougall. A 2nd edition, covering Solaris 10,
is due to be published sometime next year.
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On Sat, 29 Oct 2005, Gunnar Ritter wrote:
<http://invisible-island.net/critique/APUE-SSP.html> might help.
Not in the least. The sooner that libellous rubbish gets taken down,
the better. Prentice Hall's lawyers are on the case.
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.
But a ZFS community wouldn't be a bad idea. I think the wheels
are in motion to "make it so".
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GNOME? I'm keen to try out the latest goodies to see
if I can be convinced to migrate...
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this true?
Not any more.
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On Fri, 11 Nov 2005, Peter Eriksson wrote:
How about actually creating a video that can be *viewed* on a Solaris system...?
+1
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tations use some sort of Java movie player. Why
not get SUn to standardise on that?
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/sbin simply overwriting anything that was there.
Ah yes, I remember that story well. :-) If he hasn't been already,
that guy should be caught and shot. Now. And the IT Directory needs
a long meeting with a cluebat.
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On Thu, 17 Nov 2005, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
and putting it all in /usr/bin & /usr/lib directly, because the FHS
What's FHS?
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s and very much would like to
> continue on conquer existing GNU/Linux users hearts and believe in our
> final success!
Same here, but there will always be some Linux hold-outs. But also,
there's room for both OSes--just not on any of my machines. :-)
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nt the .iso file).
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; and the ancient aperture driver ended up working with very few
> changes.
I'm neither impressed, surprised, or amazed. Why? Because it is exactly
what I would expect from a world-class, properly engineered OS. Solaris
clearly passes this test with flying colours.
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only software. Because of this policy, how long do you think it
will be before companies like Nvidia take a look at their Linux vs Solaris
maintenance costs, and decide to srop support for the former as a cost
saving measure?
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27;ve never encountered any problems with
running my various Ultra 1s in 64-bit mode, so I think that bringing
back support for the US-I (in 64-bit mode only) would make a neat
OpenSolaris project.
OTOH, much as I love my SPARCstation 20 (running Solaris 9), I think
it is time to let sun4m rest in peace
compile form scratch)?
TIA,
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ris 10.
I've seen that too (on my Ferarri, but not my Ultra 20); it's a known
issue.
HTH,
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d.
Apparently mine is the first OpenSolaris non-Sun community ARC-level
contribution, so I'm pretty excited.
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ing services without adding extra software packages (e.g.,
> pkg-get). Hopefully Sun will consider doing this for the web folks in the
> opensolaris community. :)
+1
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(it's apparently fixed in build 30).
I usually use the NVidia driver (-81xx is out now, BTW), but with build
28 I'm using the X.org nv driver. It works for my limited 2d work,
but is a bit slower than the NVidia driver (but not unacceptably so).
HTH,
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