Re: [osol-discuss] Dev repository last catalog update is March 6, 2010?

2010-06-03 Thread Harry Putnam
Mike Gerdts mger...@gmail.com writes: On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 3:09 AM, Erik Trimble wrote: All that said, I'm still a little mystified as to why the normal development builds are being held back. Could it be because pkg image update is known to work pretty well going forward (b134 - b134b)

Re: [osol-discuss] Dev repository last catalog update is March 6, 2010?

2010-06-03 Thread Mike Gerdts
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: Mike Gerdts mger...@gmail.com writes: On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 3:09 AM, Erik Trimble wrote: All that said, I'm still a little mystified as to why the normal development builds are being held back. Could it be because

Re: [osol-discuss] Dev repository last catalog update is March 6, 2010?

2010-06-03 Thread Harry Putnam
Mike Gerdts mger...@gmail.com writes: Good starting points are: http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Project+indiana/building_on http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Main/downloads#HBuildingOpenSolaris Thanks .. great clues. I noticed at the first URL the author made the mistake often made,

Re: [osol-discuss] Dev repository last catalog update is March 6, 2010?

2010-05-31 Thread Paul Harper
Thanks Eric (and some of the others who replied.) For RC work, the Bazaar method is much less useful (and, can be detrimental to schedules), so it's better to keep the RC work strictly inside the developer community, and exclude the user community for the short period of time it takes to

Re: [osol-discuss] Dev repository last catalog update is March 6, 2010?

2010-05-31 Thread Xavier Beaudouin
Hi ! Le 30 mai 2010 à 01:59, bsd a écrit : If there is active development of OpenSolaris, why does the dev repository catalog have a last update of March 6, 2010? I'm having trouble with building VirtualBox on FreeBSD, so I wanted to install build 129, then update to the lastest dev

Re: [osol-discuss] Dev repository last catalog update is March 6, 2010?

2010-05-31 Thread homerun
Greetings If it is now nailed that next release is based on 134b what is a reason not to publish 134a build to dev repo ? Really been waiting next release to be reality. Been run Solaris / Opensolaris +10 years and have to say patience is now close to end. Information flow almost zero ,

Re: [osol-discuss] Dev repository last catalog update is March 6, 2010?

2010-05-31 Thread Calum Benson
On 31 May 2010, at 12:55, homerun wrote: If it is now nailed that next release is based on 134b what is a reason not to publish 134a build to dev repo ? If there's a 134b, one might presume it's because 134a wasn't stable enough to release. In which case, it's unlikely to be of much use to

Re: [osol-discuss] Dev repository last catalog update is March 6, 2010?

2010-05-30 Thread Paul Harper
Whatever happened to 'Release early and release often'? http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/cathedral-bazaar/cathedral-bazaar/ar01s04.html 2010.?? will be full of preventable bugs because users will not have been giving feedback to the developers. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Dev repository last catalog update is March 6, 2010?

2010-05-30 Thread Erik Trimble
On 5/29/2010 11:58 PM, Paul Harper wrote: Whatever happened to 'Release early and release often'? http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/cathedral-bazaar/cathedral-bazaar/ar01s04.html 2010.?? will be full of preventable bugs because users will not have been giving feedback to the developers.

Re: [osol-discuss] Dev repository last catalog update is March 6, 2010?

2010-05-30 Thread Erik Trimble
On 5/29/2010 9:09 PM, Richard L. Hamilton wrote: I don't know, otherwise I wouldn't have asked. I know that build 134 was to be frozen and the next release cut from that. Even though the release hasn't been distributed, I didn't know that all development has stopped and there aren't any

Re: [osol-discuss] Dev repository last catalog update is March 6, 2010?

2010-05-30 Thread Erik Trimble
On 5/30/2010 1:14 AM, Erik Trimble wrote: On 5/29/2010 9:09 PM, Richard L. Hamilton wrote: I don't know, otherwise I wouldn't have asked. I know that build 134 was to be frozen and the next release cut from that. Even though the release hasn't been distributed, I didn't know that all

Re: [osol-discuss] Dev repository last catalog update is March 6, 2010?

2010-05-30 Thread Mike Gerdts
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 3:09 AM, Erik Trimble erik.trim...@oracle.com wrote: All that said, I'm still a little mystified as to why the normal development builds are being held back. Could it be because pkg image update is known to work pretty well going forward (b134 - b134b) but is known not

Re: [osol-discuss] Dev repository last catalog update is March 6, 2010?

2010-05-30 Thread Cyril Plisko
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Mike Gerdts mger...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 3:09 AM, Erik Trimble erik.trim...@oracle.com wrote: All that said, I'm still a little mystified as to why the normal development builds are being held back. Could it be because pkg image update

Re: [osol-discuss] Dev repository last catalog update is March 6, 2010?

2010-05-30 Thread john kroll
I know I'm off topic again but I'd still like to better understand. I just went a round with pkg publisher 2009.06. I was trying for the release repo in my e521 dell which the broadcom lan is not recognized. I did finally get it by changing origins to http://localhost/ pkg publisher to

Re: [osol-discuss] Dev repository last catalog update is March 6, 2010?

2010-05-30 Thread Calum Benson
On 30 May 2010, at 07:58, Paul Harper wrote: Whatever happened to 'Release early and release often'? http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/cathedral-bazaar/cathedral-bazaar/ar01s04.html 2010.?? will be full of preventable bugs because users will not have been giving feedback to the

Re: [osol-discuss] Dev repository last catalog update is March 6, 2010?

2010-05-30 Thread Calum Benson
On 30 May 2010, at 17:27, Calum Benson wrote: Plenty of users have been giving feedback on b134 since March, so there's no reason that any critical issues they reported (and probably some non-critical ones too) shouldn't be fixed in 2010.??. (Well, no reason other than a decision by the

Re: [osol-discuss] Dev repository last catalog update is March 6, 2010?

2010-05-30 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Erik Trimble wrote: Actually, on mature reflection, I'm guessing that the reason actual built binary development releases aren't available right now is that all equipment usually used for such a build is occupied with QA for the RC. Nope - we have separate systems for build QA, and the

Re: [osol-discuss] Dev repository last catalog update is March 6, 2010?

2010-05-30 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Mike Gerdts wrote: Could it be because pkg image update is known to work pretty well going forward (b134 - b134b) but is known not to work well or is untested for going backward (b142 - b134b)? pkg is known not to work at all for installing backwards, by design. Going backwards is done by

Re: [osol-discuss] Dev repository last catalog update is March 6, 2010?

2010-05-30 Thread Brandon High
On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 11:58 PM, Paul Harper harper.pau...@gmail.com wrote: Whatever happened to 'Release early and release often'? http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/cathedral-bazaar/cathedral-bazaar/ar01s04.html 2010.?? will be full of preventable bugs because users will not have been

Re: [osol-discuss] Dev repository last catalog update is March 6, 2010?

2010-05-30 Thread Shawn Walker
On 05/30/10 03:25 PM, Alan Coopersmith wrote: Mike Gerdts wrote: Could it be because pkg image update is known to work pretty well going forward (b134 - b134b) but is known not to work well or is untested for going backward (b142 - b134b)? pkg is known not to work at all for installing

[osol-discuss] Dev repository last catalog update is March 6, 2010?

2010-05-29 Thread bsd
If there is active development of OpenSolaris, why does the dev repository catalog have a last update of March 6, 2010? I'm having trouble with building VirtualBox on FreeBSD, so I wanted to install build 129, then update to the lastest dev build. However, if the latest dev build is from

Re: [osol-discuss] Dev repository last catalog update is March 6, 2010?

2010-05-29 Thread Ian Collins
On 05/30/10 11:59 AM, bsd wrote: If there is active development of OpenSolaris, why does the dev repository catalog have a last update of March 6, 2010? That's already been answered as I'm sure you know. -- Ian. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing

Re: [osol-discuss] Dev repository last catalog update is March 6, 2010?

2010-05-29 Thread bsd
I don't know, otherwise I wouldn't have asked. I know that build 134 was to be frozen and the next release cut from that. Even though the release hasn't been distributed, I didn't know that all development has stopped and there aren't any updates to dev. So all you can get right now is build

Re: [osol-discuss] Dev repository last catalog update is March 6, 2010?

2010-05-29 Thread Erik Trimble
On 5/29/2010 8:16 PM, bsd wrote: I don't know, otherwise I wouldn't have asked. I know that build 134 was to be frozen and the next release cut from that. Even though the release hasn't been distributed, I didn't know that all development has stopped and there aren't any updates to dev. So

Re: [osol-discuss] Dev repository last catalog update is March 6, 2010?

2010-05-29 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
I don't know, otherwise I wouldn't have asked. I know that build 134 was to be frozen and the next release cut from that. Even though the release hasn't been distributed, I didn't know that all development has stopped and there aren't any updates to dev. So all you can get right now is

Re: [osol-discuss] Dev repository last catalog update is March 6, 2010?

2010-05-29 Thread Alan Coopersmith
bsd wrote: I know that build 134 was to be frozen and the next release cut from that. Even though the release hasn't been distributed, I didn't know that all development has stopped and there aren't any updates to dev. Development hasn't stopped, just the updating of the /dev repo. Source