I'd switch to the forked version immediately. In all
honesty, who wouldn't like to see Oracle out of this
equation. It could be very healthy for OpenSolaris or
whatever it'll be called when forked.
I don't want to see Oracle out of the equation, their is no reason. I really
don't see what
I hope you find this funny. I know I did:
http://www.amazingaustralia.com.au/kiwi_jokes.htm
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OK, understood!
Still, as mentioned elsewhere...
Different Company Cultures of communicating things, that's all, we're seeing...
And, yes, sadly, that's generating confusion and uncertainty...
Matthias
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Von: Erlan Sergaziev erlan.sergaz...@gmail.com
An:
Please. please please guys, osol-friends and discussers, would you all
please come back to a professional communication and cooperation and
state and comment busineeslike and objective.
Please, stop insulting people wheter it is or not your opinion, stop the
offenses, personal affronts,
The bad attitude of the official discussions here causes heise to snear.
Sorry, it is in german:
I read German. The article is largely about Oracle's lack of openness. Nothing
in the article leads me to believe that people expressing on this forum their
unease resulting from Oracle's failure
Well we have heard from one of the OGB members about
forking this project to save it from the hands of
[b]HOracle[/b] the multi-headed, voracious, open
source devouring monster. So, when and who might be
the first step/person to make this happen to protect
what has been done so far?
Been
http://www.businessweek.com/idg/2010-04-15/opensolaris-leaders-unnerved-by-oracle-silence.html
Right ON !!!, brothers and sisters, ...
:)
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I'd switch to the forked version immediately. In all honesty, who wouldn't like
to see Oracle out of this equation. It could be very healthy for OpenSolaris or
whatever it'll be called when forked.
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What are you going to do with the fork? Solaris is dependent on the
briliant engineers from what was Sun, no external coders have stepped
upp and supplied many new features, mainly fixes only.
You sure can make your own distro but I'll think the only way forward
for the success of
I must say though, hearing that the dev builds have stopped being made
public sounds encouraging, it could be that 2010.04 is on it's way!
LOL. If builds were regular before and suddenly stopped it's a good sign that
Oracle eh ... is about to deliver :)
I hope Oracle people do understand what
You (Erlan Sergaziev) wrote:
I must say though, hearing that the dev builds have stopped being made
public sounds encouraging, it could be that 2010.04 is on it's way!
LOL. If builds were regular before and suddenly stopped it's a good sign that
Oracle eh ... is about to deliver :)
Do you
LOL. If builds were regular before and suddenly stopped it's a good sign
that Oracle eh ... is about to deliver :)
Do you actually read, what's written here?
I understand the heated debate here, but, come on, let's not loose some
sense of humor.
This was my attempt to make a joke (cp.
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Chad Welsh unixphr...@mac.com wrote:
Well we have heard from one of the OGB members about forking this project to
save it from the hands of [b]HOracle[/b] the multi-headed, voracious, open
source devouring monster. So, when and who might be the first
I am interested in very clear terms what the pros and cons of a FORK is from a
technical point of view?
Support for a successful operating system is very roughly composed of the
following
Technical development
ISV development and partner input
IHV development and partner input
Marketing,
Answer: TOO high.
%mab
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 12:22 AM, Peter Jones bloosk...@netscape.net wrote:
I am interested in very clear terms what the pros and cons of a FORK is from
a technical point of view?
Support for a successful operating system is very roughly composed of the
following
Well we have heard from one of the OGB members about forking this project to
save it from the hands of [b]HOracle[/b] the multi-headed, voracious, open
source devouring monster. So, when and who might be the first step/person to
make this happen to protect what has been done so far?
Been nice
Well we have heard from one of the OGB members about forking this project
to save it from the hands of [b]HOracle[/b] the multi-headed, voracious,
open source devouring monster. So, when and who might be the first
step/person to make this happen to protect what has been done so far?
Been
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Chad Welsh unixphr...@mac.com wrote:
Well we have heard from one of the OGB members about forking this project to
save it from the hands of [b]HOracle[/b] the multi-headed, voracious, open
source devouring monster. So, when and who might be the first
Chad Welsh wrote:
So, when and who might be the first step/person to make this happen to
protect what has been done so far?
What would your fork do differently than the main project, besides have almost
no developers working on it, since all the Oracle-paid developers would still be
working on
On 14/04/2010 15:56, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
Chad Welsh wrote:
So, when and who might be the first step/person to make this happen to protect
what has been done so far?
What would your fork do differently than the main project, besides have almost
no developers working on it, since
On 04/14/10 10:56 AM, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
Chad Welsh wrote:
So, when and who might be the first step/person to make this happen to protect
what has been done so far?
What would your fork do differently than the main project, besides have almost
no developers working on it, since
Well maybe this distro will communicate with its people besides the ones inside
the company about the status of its latest release since you cut the balls off
the release branch that should have continued.
close to a month of us wondering what the hell happened to 2010.03 and still
nothing to
Paul Gress wrote:
If their pushing to the main OpenSolaris gates every day, why hasn't
anything been released. Why cannot I upgrade to b135, b136 or b137?
Every previous time we've had a release in progress, updates to /dev stopped
while the release was underway - when 2009.06 was being
Chad Welsh wrote:
Well maybe this distro will communicate with its people besides the ones
inside the company about the status of its latest release since you cut the
balls off the release branch that should have continued.
I assure you I have not touched anyones balls. Attacking the few
of
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 7:19 PM, Alan Coopersmith
alan.coopersm...@oracle.com wrote:
Chad Welsh wrote:
Well maybe this distro will communicate with its people besides the ones
inside the company about the status of its latest release since you cut the
balls off the release branch that should
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 6:27 PM, Paul Gress pgr...@optonline.net wrote:
On 04/14/10 10:56 AM, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
Chad Welsh wrote:
So, when and who might be the first step/person to make this happen to
protect what has been done so far?
What would your fork do differently than the
On 04/14/10 12:12 PM, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
Paul Gress wrote:
If their pushing to the main OpenSolaris gates every day, why hasn't
anything been released. Why cannot I upgrade to b135, b136 or b137?
Every previous time we've had a release in progress, updates to /dev stopped
while
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Paul Gress pgr...@optonline.net wrote:
On 04/14/10 12:12 PM, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
Paul Gress wrote:
If their pushing to the main OpenSolaris gates every day, why hasn't
anything been released. Why cannot I upgrade to b135, b136 or b137?
Every previous
On 04/14/10 01:11 PM, Martin Bochnig wrote:
How can it appear to be ^frozen^?
Then maybe you are not subscribed to the right lists.
Appears and actual are two different things. What I mean by appears is
nothing has been published as in some form of a binary release for me to
upgrade
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 2:11 PM, Martin Bochnig mar...@martux.org wrote:
During my life experience I learned one thing for sure: Distrust and
impatience DESTROY EVERYTHING.
Exactly, Oracle should pay attention to that.
My analogy on this situation is like the drug pusher giving drugs to
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Paul Gress pgr...@optonline.net wrote:
On 04/14/10 01:11 PM, Martin Bochnig wrote:
How can it appear to be ^frozen^?
Then maybe you are not subscribed to the right lists.
Appears and actual are two different things. What I mean by appears is
nothing has
On 04/14/10 01:34 PM, Giovanni Tirloni wrote:
Sounds like you are experienced ;-)
Personal attacks rarely will help you make your point so please stop it.
I didn't take is as a personal attack, I saw the smiley face, it was
meant as a joke.
Paul
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 8:46 PM, Paul Gress pgr...@optonline.net wrote:
On 04/14/10 01:34 PM, Giovanni Tirloni wrote:
Sounds like you are experienced ;-)
Personal attacks rarely will help you make your point so please stop it.
I didn't take is as a personal attack, I saw the smiley
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But the difference was the community was informed. It appears that everything
was frozen. I must say that I'm getting nervous. I've been waiting since
around the later b120's for b135, as this marked the first release with NWAM
phase 1. Now I see not even
They need their Opensolaris.
THEIR?
Who owns that distribution?
And: if it's their's, they should be building it themselfes...
Really, it seems, you do know what a community is, and how open source
works...
Matthias
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They need their Opensolaris.
THEIR?
Who owns that distribution?
And: if it's their's, they should be building it themselfes...
Really, it seems, you do know what a community is, and how open source
works...
Matthias
You
I can't manage that from my Nokia E71, and, yes, I quoted from a different
email...
Sorry, it's not been directed at you, Martin!
Matthias
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Von: Martin Bochnig mar...@martux.org
An: matth...@pfuetzner.de
Cc: pgr...@optonline.net,
2010/4/14 Matthias Pfützner matth...@pfuetzner.de:
I can't manage that from my Nokia E71, and, yes, I quoted from a different
email...
Sorry, it's not been directed at you, Martin!
Matthias
Ok, no problem.
I can imagine it can be hairy, when sending reply-all from a phone ...
Thanks for
Alan Coopersmith wrote:
I assure you I have not touched anyones balls.
Attacking the few
f us still willing to communicate in public just
further deteriorates
the communication you're going to get - believe me,
it's damn frustrating
for us as well, and hard as we learn the difference
On 14/04/2010 20:55, Ben wrote:
Alan, I agree with everything you say. The problem is, as everyone
keeps saying, that the community that isn't attached to the company
knows nothing about what's going on. It's a tad frustrating getting
nothing from Oracle about the next release.
Slightly
Slightly tangential, but it sounds like the Glassfish
community found
themselves in a similar situation recently. However,
Oracle just
released a roadmap that covers the future of both
their commercial and
open source offering
I have no insight into whether Oracle will be doing
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Calum Benson calum.ben...@oracle.comwrote:
On 14/04/2010 20:55, Ben wrote:
Alan, I agree with everything you say. The problem is, as everyone
keeps saying, that the community that isn't attached to the company
knows nothing about what's going on. It's a
On 04/15/10 04:19 AM, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
Chad Welsh wrote:
Well maybe this distro will communicate with its people besides the ones inside
the company about the status of its latest release since you cut the balls off
the release branch that should have continued.
I assure you
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 7:06 AM, Ian Collins i...@ianshome.com wrote:
On 04/15/10 04:19 AM, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
Chad Welsh wrote:
Well maybe this distro will communicate with its people besides the ones
inside the company about the status of its latest release since you cut the
balls
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