Knock it off you guys.
If you want to have legitimate discussion of the merits of different
platforms, by all means. But this is stupid. Please do jump ship, so you
won't care about this mailing list anymore.
Oh, what a hostility! Say Linux, and you're not an IT guy, but totally enemy!
BTW, you
From: opensolaris-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:opensolaris-
discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Dmitry G. Kozhinov
Knock it off you guys.
If you want to have legitimate discussion of the merits of different
platforms, by all means. But this is stupid. Please do jump
On Jun 19, 2010, at 8:05 PM, Erik Trimble wrote:
I would also heartily recommend *against* Ubuntu as a replacement Linux
server OS. RHEL, SLES, or possibly Debian, but Ubuntu is doing all the wrong
things to take them seriously as a Server OS.
That's because it's meant to be a desktop
RHEL, SLES, or possibly Debian
Would you recommend Fedora?
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Le 19/06/10 18:08, Mark Kaiman a écrit :
I dont think its at all clear that OpenSolaris (or Solaris for that matter!)
has a future under Oracle. They're as bad as Apple. Secretive. Uncommunicative.
Leaving customers in the dark.
Time to jump ship to Ubuntu?
Time to provide something else
RHEL, SLES, or possibly Debian
Would you recommend Fedora?
IMHO, it is positioned as desktop or feature-preview of RHEL-next. After
living with Ubuntu on laptop for several years, I'm not satisfied with its
stability in last two releases. So, maybe Debian would be more adequate even
for
On 06/20/10 12:38 PM, Alexander wrote:
RHEL, SLES, or possibly Debian
Would you recommend Fedora?
IMHO, it is positioned as desktop or feature-preview of RHEL-next. After
living with Ubuntu on laptop for several years, I'm not satisfied with its stability in
last two
On 06/21/10 06:02 AM, HeCSa wrote:
On 06/20/10 12:38 PM, Alexander wrote:
RHEL, SLES, or possibly Debian
Would you recommend Fedora?
IMHO, it is positioned as desktop or feature-preview of RHEL-next.
After living with Ubuntu on laptop for several years, I'm not
satisfied with its stability
I hope you're right and all of that is true. I dont want to see OpenSolaris
become another orphan OS or another might have been.
BTW, I use it as a desktop OS, not as a server. There are some things I have to
use Windows 7 for, but most of my day to day computing tasks can be
accomplished with
From: opensolaris-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:opensolaris-
discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Dmitry G. Kozhinov
Would you recommend Fedora?
From: opensolaris-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:opensolaris-
discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Mark
I also recommend Debian for servers, CentOS when
rpm based distros are
preferred; and Linux Mint for the desktop.
I recommend Solaris or OpenSolaris for servers, but
what do I know?
We use SXCE for two our servers, and they serve our needs. But these servers
are hidden in intranet. In
I dont think its at all clear that OpenSolaris (or Solaris for that matter!)
has a future under Oracle. They're as bad as Apple. Secretive. Uncommunicative.
Leaving customers in the dark.
Time to jump ship to Ubuntu?
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Go ahead!
I would never go to Ubuntu unless I have no other options.
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On 6/19/2010 9:08 AM, Mark Kaiman wrote:
I dont think its at all clear that OpenSolaris (or Solaris for that matter!)
has a future under Oracle. They're as bad as Apple. Secretive. Uncommunicative.
Leaving customers in the dark.
Time to jump ship to Ubuntu?
It's been made *very* clear
On 06/08/10 13:31, Jason King wrote:
A fast-track case is describing more the review/approval process than
how fast it's being putback. I'm sure there are many examples of
fast-tracks that weren't integrated for many months (if not longer)
from when they were filed.
Sometimes never. I
My Oracle Support lists OpenSolaris and Solaris products.
My Oracle Support Community only lists Solaris under Oracle Sun
Technologies.
They are probably not making a distinction between Solaris (product) and the
OpenSolaris binary distribution (product).
As far as OpenSolaris.org (the open
Manager
with an Etch-A-Sketch.
Shake often,
~ Ken Mays
--- On Thu, 6/10/10, Giovanni Tirloni gtirl...@sysdroid.com wrote:
From: Giovanni Tirloni gtirl...@sysdroid.com
Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] Sun Software Product Map- opensolaris not included
To: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Date
I have no worries if OpenSolaris and Solaris will have a future under Oracle.
It's clear that both of them will.
I was merely contributing information on how My Oracle Support and My Oracle
Support Community websites show OpenSolaris and Solaris. Websites which I've
only gained access to this
Trying to say that it's someone else's fault that you find implausible and
prejudicial interpretations of news items to post here on a nearly daily basis
is another way of saying that you consider yourself a well-intentioned troll,
flippant disinterest in facts or prospects for genuinely
And the FUD continues...
Opensolaris is on the product map for sure as the OP
pointed out...:-D
where is it on this list without havig to click on any thing else like
openoffice.org, i don't have to click on anything else to find openoffice.org:
Sun Java Communications Suite Oracle
And the FUD continues...
Opensolaris is on the product map for sure as the
OP
pointed out...:-D
where is it on this list without havig to click on
any thing else like openoffice.org, i don't have to
click on anything else to find openoffice.org:
Give it up, will you? We've heard
And the FUD continues...
Opensolaris is on the product map for sure as
the
OP
pointed out...:-D
where is it on this list without havig to click on
any thing else like openoffice.org, i don't have
to
click on anything else to find openoffice.org:
Give it up, will
On 08.06.2010 08:53, Thommy M. Malmström wrote:
And the FUD continues...
Opensolaris is on the product map for sure as the
OP
pointed out...:-D
where is it on this list without havig to click on
any thing else like openoffice.org, i don't have to
click on anything else to find
If you want to spread fear about oracle
opensolaris, find something
concrete you can talk about instead. Like They just
laid off half the
development team or you know ... something worth
while.
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On 08.06.2010 08:53, Thommy M. Malmström wrote:
And the FUD continues...
Opensolaris is on the product map for sure as the
OP
pointed out...:-D
where is it on this list without havig to click on
any thing else like openoffice.org, i don't have
to
click on anything else to
Come on, Chicken Little, probably? Are all things that you are otherwise
pre-disposed to believe probable? There are no announced details on numbers,
but the Register seems to think this is about operational staff in Europe and
Asia (not that I want to promote their authority, but to the extent
Come on, Chicken Little, probably? Are all things
that you are otherwise pre-disposed to believe
probable? There are no announced details on numbers,
but the Register seems to think this is about
operational staff in Europe and Asia (not that I want
to promote their authority, but to the
Looking through http://arc.opensolaris.org/caselog/PSARC/2010/ there appear to
a large number of items which are being fast tracked. Is Oracle pushing for the
next release of OpenSolaris to include more updates before release?
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Opensolaris next is frozen, it doesn't matter how many fasttracks were approved.
And perhaps, those fasttracks were actually fasttracks to begin with...
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 2:05 PM, russell str...@willows7.myzen.co.uk wrote:
Looking through http://arc.opensolaris.org/caselog/PSARC/2010/ there
A fast-track case is describing more the review/approval process than
how fast it's being putback. I'm sure there are many examples of
fast-tracks that weren't integrated for many months (if not longer)
from when they were filed.
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 12:05 PM, russell
Looking through
http://arc.opensolaris.org/caselog/PSARC/2010/ there
appear to a large number of items which are being
fast tracked. Is Oracle pushing for the next release
of OpenSolaris to include more updates before release?
they may? I do hope a release comes out of this. but one thing
it appears this is the lsit of SUN's former software Oracle deems important,
OpenSolaris is not included but virtualbox,openoffice,netbeans, mysql are
http://www.oracle.com/us/sun/sun-products-map-075562.html
the following open source software,execpt for opensolaris have already
received
If you follow one link:
Operating Systems
Sun Solaris Oracle Solaris
Clicking on Oracle Solaris
http://www.oracle.com/us/products/servers-storage/solaris/index.html
You'll see listed
ORACLE SOLARIS PRODUCTS
* Oracle Solaris * OpenSolaris
So you proved Opensolaris is
On 6/7/2010 3:04 PM, Edward Martinez wrote:
it appears this is the lsit of SUN's former software Oracle deems important,
OpenSolaris is not included but virtualbox,openoffice,netbeans, mysql are
http://www.oracle.com/us/sun/sun-products-map-075562.html
the following open source
If you follow one link:br
br
Operating Systemsbr
Sun Solaris nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; Oracle Solarisbr
br
Clicking on Oracle Solarisbr
br
a class=moz-txt-link-freetext
href=http://www.oracle.com/us/products/servers-storag
e/solaris/index.htmlhttp://www.oracle.com/us/product
Le 08/06/10 00:04, Edward Martinez a écrit :
it appears this is the lsit of SUN's former software Oracle deems important,
OpenSolaris is not included but virtualbox,openoffice,netbeans, mysql are
http://www.oracle.com/us/sun/sun-products-map-075562.html
But if you go to the Solaris
On 6/7/2010 3:04 PM, Edward Martinez wrote:
it appears this is the lsit of SUN's former
software Oracle deems important, OpenSolaris is not
included but virtualbox,openoffice,netbeans, mysql
are
http://www.oracle.com/us/sun/sun-products-map-075562.h
tml
the following open
Edward Martinez wrote:
But they sure went to all the trouble to make a distinction between oracle
open office and openoffice by also adding openoffice.org to the list. they
could of just added a openoffice.org link to oracle open office page, but
decided not to.
manangement is making
From: opensolaris-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:opensolaris-
discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Edward Martinez
it appears this is the lsit of SUN's former software Oracle deems
important, OpenSolaris is not included but
virtualbox,openoffice,netbeans, mysql are
it appears this is the lsit of SUN's former
software Oracle deems
important, OpenSolaris is not included but
virtualbox,openoffice,netbeans, mysql are
http://www.oracle.com/us/sun/sun-products-map-075562.h
tml
LOL
Use Ctrl-F and type in solaris you'll see it about
2/3
Le 08/06/10 00:04, Edward Martinez a écrit :
it appears this is the lsit of SUN's former
software Oracle deems important, OpenSolaris is not
included but virtualbox,openoffice,netbeans, mysql
are
http://www.oracle.com/us/sun/sun-products-map-075562.h
tml
But if you go to the
From: opensolaris-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:opensolaris-
discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Edward Martinez
LOL
Use Ctrl-F and type in solaris you'll see it about
2/3 the way down.
Solaris is listed, and if you click that link,
opensolaris is considered
Edward Martinez wrote:
But they sure went to all the trouble to make a
distinction between oracle open office and
openoffice by also adding openoffice.org to the
list. they could of just added a openoffice.org
link to oracle open office page, but decided not
to.
manangement is
And the FUD continues...
Opensolaris is on the product map for sure as the OP pointed out...:-D
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Alan Coopersmith wrote:
You'd prefer the strong statement of rushing out a buggy, incomplete release
instead of getting it right? Image is more important than functionality and
usability?
This is an normal reason for release delay. But why can't development builds be
published as usual
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 6:26 PM, Hillel Lubman shtetl...@gmail.com wrote:
Is the reason a secret, or no one simply knows the answer?
The obvious 3rd choice is that the reasons for the delays are known, but
Oracle forbids its employees from publicly commenting about the details of
any yet to be
On 07/06/2010 21:55, John Plocher wrote:
The obvious 3rd choice is that the reasons for the delays are known,
but Oracle forbids its employees from publicly commenting about the
details of any yet to be released products, under pain of discipline and
potential employment termination.
That
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